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BlackWIdow065
01-22-2004, 12:41 PM
Hi all, I'm new to the forums and just wanted to drop a line.
I've been playing RS3 for the xbox online and LAN since day one. A group of my fellow Police Officers, friends, and even family members are all RS3 addicts. If you haven't had a chance to experience LAN or online Xbox gaming, it is about time you tried. Unlike the PC, there are no hardware conflicts, no cheating, just some serious fun in a controlled enviroment. It is great knowing that nobody has an advantage over you. Any periphrial they have, you can too. For LAN gaming all you need is some cat 5 cables, a hub, TV's, and as many friends with xbox consoles as you can find. Luckily, when my cop buddies and I are not training at work, we get to continue our training at home in front of the TV. RS3 Rocks! Keep up the good work UBISOFT. See Ya Online.

BlackWIdow065
01-22-2004, 12:41 PM
Hi all, I'm new to the forums and just wanted to drop a line.
I've been playing RS3 for the xbox online and LAN since day one. A group of my fellow Police Officers, friends, and even family members are all RS3 addicts. If you haven't had a chance to experience LAN or online Xbox gaming, it is about time you tried. Unlike the PC, there are no hardware conflicts, no cheating, just some serious fun in a controlled enviroment. It is great knowing that nobody has an advantage over you. Any periphrial they have, you can too. For LAN gaming all you need is some cat 5 cables, a hub, TV's, and as many friends with xbox consoles as you can find. Luckily, when my cop buddies and I are not training at work, we get to continue our training at home in front of the TV. RS3 Rocks! Keep up the good work UBISOFT. See Ya Online.

blazer
01-22-2004, 01:02 PM
very well put!!

RatedE
01-22-2004, 01:34 PM
as far as the cheating goes, you can cheat. I just played with somebody who had a mod chip and you could not kill him. He also was unable to boot out of the game http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

.BulletTooth.
01-22-2004, 02:28 PM
He is mainly talking about system linking your Xboxes together and everyone playing in the same location (i.e. in someone's basement, living room, etc.) but also he is very correct in there isn't even close to the amount of cheating capable on Xbox as there is on PC.

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testy666
01-22-2004, 03:34 PM
No ping time for servers...

No way to type in a server you want to play on.

No way to add people to your friends list without actually finding them in game 1st (which makes it tough since you can't tell them what server to join by IP)

No way to list more then one server at a time

When you do list that server there is a 20 second delay before it tells you how fast it is with a 1 2 or 3 star rating.

Very little options for server control

more than half the time the stat's don't work and you have to cancel and retry to get "credit" for your game...

No way to rank server by map / speed / etc etc..

That is off the top of my head, and those are VERY basic things that are expected in any PC online game (even the rainbow 6 for the PC that has been out for years can do the above).. that list is also only for the portion of joining a server.

What they have works, don't get me wrong, its good for X-BOX, but I don't think you can start to compare it to a PC yet...

Ghost.JKD
01-22-2004, 03:43 PM
no, i think xbox R63 owns PC for alot of reasons.

-Dont have to update hardware
-no hardware problems
-better graphics(unless, somehow your computer is a super machine but to do that u need to pay hella)
-the controllers and buttons fit perfectly to your desire instead of changing keys and not know which is which on PC
-alot more hackers on PC
-server ping and stability is overall waaay better then pc.
-gameplay is better
-playing on PC on even a 20 inch screen is ****ty as hell
-always have hardware problems

i could go on like this for a loooong time but im not. ofcourse this is just my opinion. and i think it should be vise versa, that you should even compare the PC to xbox.

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testy666
01-22-2004, 03:59 PM
But 85% of your reasons is because you have a dated computer it sounds like. My x-box is newer than my computer and rainbow is much better looking on my computer than x-box... you can't ever say x-box graphics are better, because the x-box can't do the same rez that a computer can. the most it can do is 1080i most people play in at least 1024, some (like me) can play in 1600, that is like 600 lines of rez more than a x-box can even think about displaying.

you can change the keys to anything you want on a PC (you can even use your x-box controller on your PC and use that) so that is a mute point.

You can't say that the server ping is better, that has nothing to do with the x-box, it might SEEM better to you, but realize that its the same internet that the signal travels over. Using the same code of TCP/IP... so that is a mute point also.

There are more hackers on PC, but I urge you to play on server that have "punkbuster" which is free and actually in a patch for rainbow which stops that.

I'm well aware that this is a x-box forum http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif so I was not looking to change people over. But if we can just get some of them to realize how much better it can be, and how much better thay made the same game 2 years ago for the PC... Some of the things this game is missing is REALLY basic..

Prone...
Change the rate of fire...

And for the love of God let me run a dedicated server on my computer...

Ghost.JKD
01-22-2004, 04:03 PM
okay, i understand, but thats what you think. i think differently. not trying to be mean or anything.

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XBOX_PLAYBOY
01-22-2004, 04:18 PM
XBOX will get a hardware update with XBOX 2. So be prepared to shell out for another XBOX soon! it wont be cheap either!

The XBOX is/was a cheap and safe way to play on the internet. Hopefully the PRICE goes down and the quality goes up and the cheaters go down.

But I do miss having the fastest PC on the block!

Ghost.JKD
01-22-2004, 04:23 PM
when is the xbox2 coming out anyways? what new features?

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BlackWIdow065
01-22-2004, 06:08 PM
hey testy666, if you go to your xbox dashboard there is an option to enter a friends gamertag manually without having to find them in a game.
I might add that I was mostly speaking of LAN parties and the ease of setup, but to get on the online subject compaired to the PC, think about all the features Xbox Live has. I know that all PC games don't have those features and I find that Xbox Live is more exciting and easy to use. All games are headset compatable on Xbox Live so there is no need to install Teamspeak. With all the features, tournaments the publishers and game makers put out, as well as XSN sports I find that the Xbox is very comparable to the PC.
Anyways, guys I'm just stating my opinion and showing my support for the Xbox and RS3. IN no way am I saying that my opinion is factual information. I find that I have way less trouble with my Xbox compaired with my Pc. I like the fact that I can get to gaming in no time without problems.
Long Live the Xbox!

Predator_SYIH
01-22-2004, 06:34 PM
Ghost.JDK: the xbox2 is said to be released midd 2005 to early 2006 (NOT POSITIVE).

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MrBisto
01-23-2004, 01:14 AM
All you need to know about PC gaming is that it relies on Windows to run. How many times to we get people on here saying they have a problem loading Rainbow and they get some error message etc? Ok, so XBOX runs on Win 2000 but with the hardware setup etc, there is less chance of going wrong and it is more stable as you don't have anything running in the background like you do on a rehular computer (I wouldn't have thought anyway).

testy666
01-23-2004, 09:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MrBisto:
All you need to know about PC gaming is that it relies on Windows to run. How many times to we get people on here saying they have a problem loading Rainbow and they get some error message etc? Ok, so XBOX runs on Win 2000 but with the hardware setup etc, there is less chance of going wrong and it is more stable as you don't have anything running in the background like you do on a rehular computer (I wouldn't have thought anyway).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have noticed some people have crashing problems with the x-box, a few times when I start a server I will end up back on the intro screen on RB6, I have a friend that can't play Garage level because it will crash him also...

This is find to be pretty bad because there is really nothing you can do.

When talking to x-box about it they suggest "erasing all of your saved games, mp3's etc"

Sounds like a format and reinstall of windows to me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

.BulletTooth.
01-23-2004, 10:16 AM
Look, BlackWidow came here simply to express that he likes playing RS3 with fellow police officers and they have a ton of fun doing it. Why do so many members of this community feel the need to jump all over someone or hijack the original point of the thread?

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NYG88
01-23-2004, 10:34 AM
Sorry BulletTooth but I haft to say this. I get the Official xbox magazine and they said the new xbox may have a 60 gig hard drive with possible DVR, a Next-gen ATI Radeon video card, 256mb ram, and a IBM power pc G5 Proceser variant(1-3GHz) so you can see it will be more powerful but a Game System will never be as good as a pc. And lan parties are the best halo and rb3 are alsome online and offline with your friends.

ox Se7eN xo
01-23-2004, 10:41 AM
an XBox may never be better than a PC, but remember this...

the fastest Personnal Computer at the moment is a Macintosh! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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NYG88
01-23-2004, 11:09 AM
I love the xbox way more than the best pc or mac. Xbox Live is the best online experence, and the new xbox will be even better. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

rikakiah
01-23-2004, 02:33 PM
I think it ALL depends on what level you're currently at. For me, the only computer I own is an old laptop (hey, it was free). For internet, I have my brother's computer or a few at work. So, in need of a gaming system, I have to start at ground zero. It was $180 for an xbox with guaranteed compatibility or a MINIMUM of a grand (closer to 3 for the specs I'd want if I had to shell out a big chunk of money) for a PC. So, in this situation, there is NO competition--I play on xbox. If I already had a decent PC that just needed some minor upgrades, yeah, it'd be a toss-up.

And so long as the new xbox is in the several hundred dollar range, it's still going to be my next system for the exact same reasons. If it's backwards compatible with old xbox games, I'll probably sell the original xbox and pick up a used PS2 to play old PS1 & PS2 games I enjoy...

testy666
01-23-2004, 03:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BulletTooth.50:
Look, BlackWidow came here simply to express that he likes playing RS3 with fellow police officers and they have a ton of fun doing it. Why do so many members of this community feel the need to jump all over someone or hijack the original point of the thread?

BulletTooth
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Easy killer, the topic is PC vs XBOX in reguards to this game... I don't think I made any "invalid" points, and I sure don't think I "Jumped all over him"... Nor Hi-Jacked his message, he said some things that I wanted to make a comment about, this is a Forum for talking about things right?

Ghost.JKD
01-23-2004, 03:04 PM
Xbox &gt; PC & Mac

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.BulletTooth.
01-23-2004, 03:05 PM
Don't be so sensitive and given you are relatively new to this community, I don't think you are aware of how rude some of the people are or can be. Nobody said you specifically, testy. Just be like Fonzie... be cool man.

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testy666
01-23-2004, 03:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rikakiah:
I think it ALL depends on what level you're currently at. For me, the only computer I own is an old laptop (hey, it was free). For internet, I have my brother's computer or a few at work. So, in need of a gaming system, I have to start at ground zero. It was $180 for an xbox with guaranteed compatibility or a MINIMUM of a grand (closer to 3 for the specs I'd want if I had to shell out a big chunk of money) for a PC. So, in this situation, there is NO competition--I play on xbox. If I already had a decent PC that just needed some minor upgrades, yeah, it'd be a toss-up.

And so long as the new xbox is in the several hundred dollar range, it's still going to be my next system for the exact same reasons. If it's backwards compatible with old xbox games, I'll probably sell the original xbox and pick up a used PS2 to play old PS1 & PS2 games I enjoy...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes - the is tons to be said for the easy use of x-box live (although I would have killed for a keyboard to setup the xbox live account).

However, on that topic I still think there is major room for some pretty basic idea's... I would like a ping time not some star rank system for lag. That is just basic online game stuff, you have a ping time, the lower the better...

Just think, LPB (Low Ping Bastard) would be a HSB (High Star Bastard)? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I just feel very stong that how the servers are listed, the options etc etc is a step backwards, and I think its important to say something.

XBOX is "dumbed down" for lack of better terms, I'm just not a big fan of that I guess.

BlackWIdow065
01-23-2004, 08:46 PM
Ok, Forget I said anything. LOL

ox Se7eN xo
01-24-2004, 01:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ghost.JKD:
Xbox > PC & Mac

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PC maybe, but not Mac

the newest Mac is almost TWICE as fast as the fastest PC

i kid you not

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Laostud
01-24-2004, 04:14 PM
i guess G5 is better than da P4, but da G5 is not even close 2 da AMD 64 FX

Backlasher
01-28-2004, 12:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by testy666:
But 85% of your reasons is because you have a dated computer it sounds like. My x-box is newer than my computer and rainbow is much better looking on my computer than x-box... you can't ever say x-box graphics are better, because the x-box can't do the same rez that a computer can. the most it can do is 1080i most people play in at least 1024, some (like me) can play in 1600, that is like 600 lines of rez more than a x-box can even think about displaying.

you can change the keys to anything you want on a PC (you can even use your x-box controller on your PC and use that) so that is a mute point.

You can't say that the server ping is better, that has nothing to do with the x-box, it might SEEM better to you, but realize that its the same internet that the signal travels over. Using the same code of TCP/IP... so that is a mute point also.

There are more hackers on PC, but I urge you to play on server that have "punkbuster" which is free and actually in a patch for rainbow which stops that.

I'm well aware that this is a x-box forum http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif so I was not looking to change people over. But if we can just get some of them to realize how much better it can be, and how much better thay made the same game 2 years ago for the PC... Some of the things this game is missing is REALLY basic..

Prone...
Change the rate of fire...

And for the love of God let me run a dedicated server on my computer...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Well, mabey he should go out and spend $3000 on a top of the line pc or mabe he should spend $150 - 200 on a motherboard , Buy a $150-$400 video card $200 on 512 meg of ram or more so on and etc.... Ya then he would have no right to comparexbox to a pc . What a minute, isn't the xbox going for around $150 now. oops mabey I'm just stupid. Who needs to live on a budget anyways when mommy and daddy can go buy all the peripheals for us and work out the hardware conflicts. I have a killer pc but I love my XBOX. Best investment I ever made.

tHe_Rk
01-28-2004, 05:56 PM
The biggest problem with PC Gaming is that everyone has a different setup, and the Game companies have to compensate for that, which allows for lesser in a lot of categories. But you design a game specifically for xbox, you can Optomize everything the game has to offer, because everyone's xbox is the same.

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HybriX_maZ
01-28-2004, 10:49 PM
Everyone's XBOX is the same except for those who cheat with modchips.. Anyway, XBOX vs's PC. I would love to have the opportunity to play in a LAN match of 16 box's. Sounds awesome. Personally I do think that it's superior to PC LAN's because it is much easier to setup. You won't have that one guy (there is always at least one) who halfway through setting up everyone's PC's blurts out "Guys where does this CAT5 cable go? Oh, Ethernet card? I don't.. have.. one.." Then you have to configure each computer to connect to the network. It's a royal pain. Once it's done it's well worth it, mind you, but it's the initial effort that takes patience. Sure the graphics may be better, but nobody here can say with a straight face that the XBOX's graphics are crap. The graphics are amazing. Not top of the line, but the Box is a few years old too. So compare it to a PC of the same age. The graphics will be closer in comparison. I like both types of LAN's, and enjoy many games exclusive to either PC or XBOX, and I can see how certain games work better for each.

This point was brought up before, but it's a valid one. When you play games on PC, how many of you have ever had a game crash on you because a friend sent you an IM or some other program you are running pops up an error message? This will not happen on an XBOX. Sure every so often you may have to reset, but consoles definitely win the compatibility argument. Games are optimized to use as much of the console's resources as possible without causing conflicts. With a PC, each setup is different. Games have to be customizable. Most PC games let you choose how to display the graphics (i.e. Bilinear, Trilinear, etc.) They let you adjust texture details and other settings until the game runs smoothly on your machine. With an XBOX these types of options would be pointless. Both sides have their pros and cons, and in the end it really does come down to personal preference. It's tough to make a convert out of a die-hard strictly PC gamer, and vise versa. The way I see it is "To each man his own." http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Backlasher
01-29-2004, 06:37 AM
I think (hope with little dopt), That when xbox 2 is developed, it will be a beautiful marriage of the console and pc functionality and then the gameing world, "both game concil folks and pc folks can live inharmony" amen.
Then again it will just give people more reason to gripe. lol the irony of it all.
If the marrage is true then the xbox will be more vulerable 2 mods and possible other hack so I say they get the board hot wired so that when someone goes to swap a chip it fries the whole system "just dreaming abit". There aren't 2 many people out there with mod chips for there xbox for those complaining bout "cheaters". Plus they scan live for those modies and are tring to eliminate them. So that in itself is a benifit 2 the "united gamers of conciles."Unlike the flexible pc which is pillaged daily with new hacks for games that even a newbie "if patient enough 2 look " could just find on a site somewere and just download it and plug it in 2 a game "like counter strike" God, what a game but prime example of online hacks .
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jrtallen
01-29-2004, 07:22 AM
One of the things I like most about XBOX vs. PC for online gaming is the tightly integrated voice communication. It really does work surprisingly well. I can't imaging going without it now.

My brother is big into BF42 on PC, and some people add a third party voice comm. application, but it just isn't the same.

The idea of standard hardware also appealed to me. When you're playing Q3A online on a PC, and some dude is getting 400fps, you wonder if he has an advantage.

My biggest dissapointment is the cheating. Its what I hated about PC online gaming. I think MS was fairly dilligent in making the XBOX secure, but with the crowd that beats on these games, it hasn't been secure enough. While cheating almost ruined PC online gaming for me, I think the advent of Punkbuster saved it, IMO. It seems to work pretty well.

I would anticipate XBOX2 to incorporate lessons learned from XBOX1 with regard to security/cheating. You want to know why they are going to a G5 architecture? It's not performance, although that is a nice bonus. It's because the box will be less hackable by those relying on traditional PC tools. I anticipate tougher encryption standards as well, to prevent the types of software hacks that we are seeing.

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XyZspineZyX
01-29-2004, 07:24 AM
What some of you fail to realise, is that neither system is better than the other. At the end of the day it boils down to personal preferance.

Until I got my Xbox, I played all my games on my pc, then got my xbox, and now I play all games on there.

The only real differance between the 2 systems was that the pc's graphics were slightly sharper at a higher res, but on a smaller screen.

The difference in graphics between the xbox and the pc, were minimal enough that the ease of use, and the lack of installation/troubleshooting were what killed my pc in terms of gameplay.

Does this mean the xbox is better? No, merely that for ME, it is preferable. The graphics (which are still exceptional) was an acceptable disadvantage.

There is no right and wrong. You play on the system that you like. Some people are self confessed graphics *****s and pc will always be their platform of choice.

Main thing, are you having FUN?? That's it in a nutshell, regardless of what system/platform you are on, are you enjoying it? If yes, then why bother what anyone else has or says. If no, then try something else. I enjoy my xbox, I know what I like so it is what I will stick with. I won't tell someone else what they should or shouldn't be playing. If asked I will tell them what I like. Mostly as follows. Buy game => Open game => Insert disc => Play game with more than adequite graphics and full blown surround sound. All in the space of about 30 secs.

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jrtallen
01-29-2004, 07:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SKULLS_Hawk:
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Main thing, are you having FUN?? That's it in a nutshell, regardless of what system/platform you are on, are you enjoying it?

(snip)
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fun is a surprisingly overlooked topic when it comes to games, especially when you consider that fun is the WHOLE POINT!

My brother shows me previews of new games and talks about how sweet the graphics are going to be and this and that, and all I want to know is "Will it be fun?"

RS3 on XBOX is REALLY FUN. As fun as any computer game I've ever played.

It also pisses me off. The night they reset the stats, I was getting owned so bad I almost threw the box out the window. Of course I was back for more the next day. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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testy666
01-29-2004, 11:30 AM
Backlasher said

"Who needs to live on a budget anyways when mommy and daddy can go buy all the peripheals for us and work out the hardware conflicts."

Usually the above comments are beneath me. However, I'm 28, and soon to be father, but thanks for judging.

And your argument is really REALLY good I might add, I guess the fact that you think I'm a kid that has mommy and daddy hand me everything makes the X-BOX better than the PC, if it is that much better, stop using your PC - at least you will stay off the forums making comments like above http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

There is no reason to go for a dig like that, we just talking about something as a friendly conversation.

XyZspineZyX
01-29-2004, 11:33 AM
Funny though isn't it, how the fun concept seems to be missed, and over ridden by the graphics concept. After all as you say, fun is the WHOLE POINT in gaming.

I play all of my games for enjoyment. Sure graphics add to that enjoyment, and maybe a little to the fun factor, but not when you are comparing xbox to pc. The difference is marginal in terms of the enjoyment/fun factor.

Have FUN people, don't worry about whose is bigger. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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testy666
01-29-2004, 11:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jrtallen:


The idea of standard hardware also appealed to me. When you're playing Q3A online on a PC, and some dude is getting 400fps, you wonder if he has an advantage.

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Do you think that playing on a large TV (lets say a HD 64" TV) gives an advantage over the "average" player on a 21" tube?

I find it easier to play on my large TV, but the wife would rather watch Friends than watch me scream at Uncle Freddy who just shot me in the head again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jrtallen
01-29-2004, 02:12 PM
Yeah, a higher resolution TV helps. Sometimes when you get enemies far away, the TV resolution makes it hard to pick them out sometimes. I don't find it to be a huge deal though.

XBL gamertag=GhostKiller
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Phamous2k3
01-30-2004, 12:30 AM
PC vs Xbox... Well,well,so new and original. Naw, but truthfully I use to be a crazed console gamer. Starting from Atari all the way up to my Playstation 1. Yet I always went on my dated comp and played Duke Nukem, Wolfenstien, Doom II, Starcraft, Warcraft 2,etc. and I realized I enjoyed FPS and RTS games much more then fighting and sports games. From 1996 - NOW Ive been constantly updraging my computer to the point I dont even have the same comp I had back then...

Make a long story(probably to late) short I currently have a very fast PC and I rarely play console games. My friend has a XBox and I enjoy certain titles but games get old. There's still people playing Quake 2 on PC cause of mods, custom made maps, weapons, vehicles,etc. and thats just something you cant add to an XBox. Who cares about graphics I want a game to last... Raven Shield been out for about a year on PC and at peak hours(7pm-1am) there's 1,500 - 2,200 players with about 800+ servers running... This is a year later now...

Anywayz who cares.. Enjoy whatever floats your boat. Whether your a diehard Xbox or PC Gamer they have there ups and downs.. Pz

Gameplaya90
02-01-2004, 08:23 PM
Well guys you have to look at it this way Xbox Live is way more user friendly to a person that is not computer savvy, many people don't know what ping is or what a i.p. address is so XBL gives them a way to play online without the technical details.

http://www.biggerhammer.net/barrett/******head_m95.jpg If you cheat in a Live game against me no matter what game this big, fat guy will come after you with this .50 Cal rifle!

makerstrom
02-03-2004, 09:03 AM
I surrendered...Own Gameboy Advance, Gamecube, PS2, X-box, 5(!) PC's and two Macs...And no, I'm not bragging...Just stating the fact that I'm a moneyburner....Good thing having your own firm....

b1giv
02-03-2004, 03:59 PM
personally i think that online gamming is better online but, it costs so much to keep your computer updated with all the good hardware. so im going to stick with xbox for now. besides i like how everyone has voice chat on every game.

java624
02-03-2004, 11:49 PM
i put it very simple dont hate what you cant afford

makerstrom
02-04-2004, 01:09 AM
PC games are half price compared to X-box and PS2 games...

Anyway, they all have pros and cons. The simplicity of X-box online game playing is great but so is also Battlefield 1942(with all great mods) on PC.

Sys 1 : P4C 3.0/Asus P4C800Deluxe/1 GB DDR400 TwinMos/Radeon 9700Pro/SB Audigy 2 Platinum/Logitech Z-680/*Asetek Waterchilled*
Sys 2: Creative Slix/P4@2.53/1 GB Samsung DDR333/Radeon 9600XT 128 MB/SB Audigy 2 Platinum Ex/Creative Labs 250D speakers
Sys 3 : Athlon 64 3200+/Abit KV8 Max3/1 GB Kingston DDR400 HyperX/Radeon 9800XT 256 MB

java624
02-04-2004, 09:00 AM
i dont know what your talking about i brought call of duty and battlefield for 100 bucks.......

makerstrom
02-05-2004, 01:30 AM
At least where I live, PC games cost half as much as any console game...

CoD and BF1942 are excellent games...Many nights...

Sys 1 : P4C 3.0/Asus P4C800Deluxe/1 GB DDR400 TwinMos/Radeon 9700Pro/SB Audigy 2 Platinum/Logitech Z-680/*Asetek Waterchilled*
Sys 2: Creative Slix/P4@2.53/1 GB Samsung DDR333/Radeon 9600XT 128 MB/SB Audigy 2 Platinum Ex/Creative Labs 250D speakers
Sys 3 : Athlon 64 3200+/Abit KV8 Max3/1 GB Kingston DDR400 HyperX/Radeon 9800XT 256 MB

TweakedShow
02-05-2004, 04:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by testy666:

No way to type in a server you want to play on.

No way to add people to your friends list without actually finding them in game 1st (which makes it tough since you can't tell them what server to join by IP)

No way to list more then one server at a time

Very little options for server control

more than half the time the stat's don't work and you have to cancel and retry to get "credit" for your game...

No way to rank server by map / speed / etc etc..

That is off the top of my head, and those are VERY basic things that are expected in any PC online game (even the rainbow 6 for the PC that has been out for years can do the above).. that list is also only for the portion of joining a server.

What they have works, don't get me wrong, its good for X-BOX, but I don't think you can start to compare it to a PC yet...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

you wrong on a few things here-
for one, you can type in people to add them to your friends list, you just have to do it at the xbobx console.
two, you can find specific servers, the server just has to be on your friends list.

and one reason xbox blows pc out of the water, is anyone can handle getting a xbox to work, put some people on a computer, and they go "aaahh, what do i do?!?!".


EDIT: and the stat thing has been fixed