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majagama
03-22-2004, 08:39 AM
Well I'm going to upgrade from my Geforce 4 MX440, the ones I am thinking of buying is, a Radeon 9600XT 128mb, shown here http://www.z-buy.com/product.asp?item=VG-C9600XT

or

ASUS V 9570 TD128 GeForce FX 5700 128MB DDR TV+DVI 8X AGP shown here,
http://www.accupc.com/itemDetail.jsp?pid=vav9570td128&refer=PriceWatch

They both seem like good cards but I think the Radeon outweighs the FX because 9600XT does Opengl 2.0 and FX doesnt. But help me make this decision and tell me wht you think.

majagama
03-22-2004, 08:39 AM
Well I'm going to upgrade from my Geforce 4 MX440, the ones I am thinking of buying is, a Radeon 9600XT 128mb, shown here http://www.z-buy.com/product.asp?item=VG-C9600XT

or

ASUS V 9570 TD128 GeForce FX 5700 128MB DDR TV+DVI 8X AGP shown here,
http://www.accupc.com/itemDetail.jsp?pid=vav9570td128&refer=PriceWatch

They both seem like good cards but I think the Radeon outweighs the FX because 9600XT does Opengl 2.0 and FX doesnt. But help me make this decision and tell me wht you think.

Paulie.
03-22-2004, 09:29 AM
You shouldn't buy the GF FX imo..
And you should neither buy the Radeon 9600xt
When it still included the hl2coupon it was a reasonable deal.. but now.. no.. you should go for the Ati Radeon 9800Pro.. the price is around 220euro now..

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NavySealz89890
03-22-2004, 03:26 PM
Well i have a AMD athlon procecer and a geforce 5200 and it runs smooth so i would get the geforce 5900.
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Dabest910
03-22-2004, 04:17 PM
the XT would perform much better than the regular 5700. If it were an Ultra it would be pretty much the same thing.

awsomedan
03-22-2004, 06:50 PM
i'd say buy ATI. less problems, i hate Nvida cuz everytime i download their drivers my whole comp. screws up. Anyways, if u buy a new ATI, it wond cost u 2 slots either

Lukeskywalkie
03-22-2004, 06:55 PM
Ok, I'm looking at two cards now. the GeForce FX 5600XT (256ddr for $109, something fishy here maybe?) and the ATI 9600XT 128MB ($149 retail, prolly find it a little cheaper)
Now I know everyone's going to say buy the radeon, but unless you can give me a reason NOT to buy the geforce, I'd prolly go for tht, as it's more in my price range and I like Nvidia. objections?

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Major_A
03-22-2004, 09:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lukeskywalkie:
Ok, I'm looking at two cards now. the GeForce FX 5600XT (256ddr for $109, something fishy here maybe?) and the ATI 9600XT 128MB ($149 retail, prolly find it a little cheaper)
Now I know everyone's going to say buy the radeon, but unless you can give me a reason NOT to buy the geforce, I'd prolly go for tht, as it's more in my price range and I like Nvidia. objections?

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Your loss the 5600 XT is slower than the 5600.
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goliathvt
03-23-2004, 08:09 AM
First off, Toms Hardware has no business giving hardware advice... they are pushovers to their sponsors.

If you reeally want some quality reviews, check out some hardware FORUMS, not review sites... and especially NOT TomsHardware. Review sites usually get pre-retail samples that can often be different than what you can buy off the shelf, so, naturally, results can be different. On the other hand, hardware forums are posts by real people sharing their own experiences with hardware, so you'll get a better picture of what's good and what's not.

Second, if you're considering spending the money on the 9600XT, you might as well get the 9800PRO... the price difference is almost negligible these days, while the performance increases are substantial.

Now, I say this next bit as a nearly lifelong customer of NVidia's cards... up until this current generation. Everyone who has done their research on the current generation of video cards knows that NVidia's FX line really lost a step. While I'm confident they'll get it back, I can't recommend someone getting one. ATI, amazingly, has done a better job this time around, and with the relatively low priced 9800pros... they make a lot of sense as a high-quality option. Of course, my real recommendation would be to wait a few more months if you can and get the next-gen stuff.

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kidric3
03-23-2004, 11:40 PM
ATI 9600xt is the 2nd best card next to it's bigger brother the 9800xt Nvidia's cards have issues with the DX9 drivers I'd get the 9600xt but I want the 9800xt just so I'll be ready for DOOM3 and HL2 but then again if you really want high performance you should wait ATI and Nvidia has a new chipset for a new videocard PLUS they'll be PCIexpress instead of AGP and PCIexpress is the next step above AGP slots

Major_A
03-24-2004, 02:50 AM
If you want a decent card under $200 get the 5900XT. Beats out both the 9600XT and 5700 Ultra.

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TheEquatis
03-24-2004, 12:29 PM
Best bang for your buck.

Radeon 9800 Pro.

The_Naja
03-25-2004, 06:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheEquatis:
Best bang for your buck.

Radeon 9800 Pro.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
i agree with that ^_^

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UNP
03-26-2004, 08:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by awsomedan:
i'd say buy ATI. less problems, i hate Nvida cuz everytime i download their drivers my whole comp. screws up. Anyways, if u buy a new ATI, it wond cost u 2 slots either<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's just you, I update new nVidia driver whenever it comes out, always no problem.
I say nVidia, I got my 5600 for $150 CDN and it runs PT smooth @ 1024*768 - High.

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BakedGoods
03-26-2004, 11:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> ATI 9600xt is the 2nd best card next to it's bigger brother the 9800xt Nvidia's cards have issues with the DX9 drivers I'd get the 9600xt but I want the 9800xt just so I'll be ready for DOOM3 and HL2 but then again if you really want high performance you should wait ATI and Nvidia has a new chipset for a new videocard PLUS they'll be PCIexpress instead of AGP and PCIexpress is the next step above AGP slots <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Ryder_Storm
03-26-2004, 01:35 PM
Definitely go ATI. they're just the best around nowadays. Nvidia has completely dropped the ball with less than stellar hardware and driver updates that cause more headaches than anything else. not to mention ATI has better image quality, their cards dont' sound like vaccuum cleaners, and ATI cards handle AA and anisotropic filtering much better. So go with ATI. Go for the 9800 Pro, it'll be $200 well spent. check out newegg.com, great prices, awesome service and free shipping and no tax.