Striaght Answer Please

[Stinger22]

I have asked several times. Will the patch address the black TVM screen many are experiencing with the A10.

A straight answer please?

HP a230N
AMD2800
Radeon 9000 64
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Windows XP all current
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[Stinger22]

I have asked several times. Will the patch address the black TVM screen many are experiencing with the A10.

A straight answer please?

HP a230N
AMD2800
Radeon 9000 64
Cat 3.6
Windows XP all current
768 mem
DX 9.0b
playing at 1024 x 768 32

[Luftkillier]

There is a sticky for this at the top of the forum

http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=55371

[Snerdley]

Since I can't find any mention of the 'black TVM' issue in the thread that Luftkiller linked to...

From reading other threads, I think the "black TVM" thing is because your graphic card doesn't fully support DirectX 8.1 - I've got two machines one with a GF4 and one with an ATI 8500 - the GF4 works fine the 8500 doesn't. Be careful with "supports" vs. "compatible" - the 8500 can run 8.1 games, but doesn't support all the features.

My bet is that their using some 8.1 feature to overlay the "video" on the TVM -and- be able to scroll it around the cockpit.

So, in short, I don't think that its something they -can- fix with a patch...

Snerdley

"Fire warning light are ESPECIALLY bright at night!"
-US Navy Pilot

[Rogue9]

I have a 8500, and my TVM works just fine.

[Stinger22]

>> posted Sun January 04 2004 07:15 PM
Since I can't find any mention of the 'black TVM' issue in the thread that Luftkiller linked to...

Which is why I am asking the direct question once again. Will someone from UBI please respond????

>>From reading other threads, I think the "black TVM" thing is because your graphic card doesn't fully support DirectX 8.1

>.From reading other threads, I think the "black TVM" thing is because your graphic card doesn't fully support DirectX 8.1

No I'm directx 8.1 compatiable. It works in some single missions just fine. It's when I load campaign that I lose it and have to go back out and use LOMAN to reset my graphics then it works again.

HP a230N
AMD2800
Radeon 9000 64
Cat 3.6
Windows XP all current
768 mem
DX 9.0b
playing at 1024 x 768 32

[Stinger22]

BTW Rouge what driver are you running on your 8500 and what are your other spec's?

HP a230N
AMD2800
Radeon 9000 64
Cat 3.6
Windows XP all current
768 mem
DX 9.0b
playing at 1024 x 768 32

[Slammin_]

Have you considered Cat 3.7 or Cat 3.10 drivers? I'm currently running 3.7 since I like to play IL-2 in perfect mode, but the 3.10 seemed like a very good driver too sans IL-2 Perfect Mode support.

[Stinger22]

With the 9000 the 3.7's to 3.10 cause missing textures AND black TVM. I can run IL-2 at the highest setting with the 3.6's. I can get the TVM sometimes, it just in campaigns that it doesn't work all the time.

HP a230N
AMD2800
Radeon 9000 64
Cat 3.6
Windows XP all current
768 mem
DX 9.0b
playing at 1024 x 768 32

[Wings_of_Fire2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Snerdley:
Since I can't find any mention of the 'black TVM' issue in the thread that Luftkiller linked to...

From reading other threads, I think the "black TVM" thing is because your graphic card doesn't fully support DirectX 8.1 - I've got two machines one with a GF4 and one with an ATI 8500 - the GF4 works fine the 8500 doesn't. Be careful with "supports" vs. "compatible" - the 8500 can run 8.1 games, but doesn't support all the features.

My bet is that their using some 8.1 feature to overlay the "video" on the TVM -and- be able to scroll it around the cockpit.

So, in short, I don't think that its something they -can- fix with a patch...

Snerdley

"Fire warning light are ESPECIALLY bright at night!"
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The Radeon 8500 and its successors are in fact the only cards that fully support DX8.1, the Geforce4 Ti Range is only DX8
the difference between DX8 and 8.1 is only VS1.1 and PS1.4
Geforce4 Ti's can only do VS1.0 and PS1.3 and 1.1 making it a DX8.0 card whereas the Radeon 8500 and upwards can do up to PS1.4 and VS1.1

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To the original poster....

Are you enabling ground attack mode by pressing 7, my TVM is black until I press 7, it then comes on

[KillerCharlie]

I don't think this is a driver or even hardware related issue. I have the 9700pro with the newest drivers and I still experience. It's never happened to me in singleplayer (yet), but it frequently (more than half the time) happens to me in multiplayer. The TVM is just black, no matter what you do... the crosshairs are still there though. Firing mavericks by locking on visually sucks.

Yes, I'm pushing 7 and everything, I know what I'm doing. It seems to work fine in singleplayer and sometimes in multiplayer, but sometimes not.

[Wings_of_Fire2]

Is that after firing your AGM's? if so then the reason is, because there is no more compatible weapons........

[BSR_RuGGBuTT]

Correct. The TVM only shows what the missile is seeing thru it's seeker head. When you fire the missile the "camera" goes w/it.

http://www.teambsr.com/ruggbutt01.gif

[titanium87]

Im using a radeon 8500 and i also cant get the tvm screen to work.

I have also mentioned this problem numerous times on this forum, but no one from ubi/ed seems to want to respond.

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[eXtra_Corrosiv]

as far as I can remember I've never seen someone from UBISOFT on this board, so i doubt you'll get an answer. Plus UBI doesn't write the patch anyway.

it should be pointed out that a r9000 is NOT A GAMING CARD. Plus it has dx7 hardware like a r7500.

a radeon 8500 is a gaming card. there IS a huge difference.

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[Skyhawk77]

My MFD works in color my only ***** is that the maginification is worthless I can see better by magnifying the HUD then finding the target in the MDF.

The target appear way too late. MDF should work so you can get a lock on the target before you see it and you can launch expedite before the shika or sam start firing at you. WHich is not the case in lomac. I can barely see and acquire the target before the target opens up on me.

[Skyhawk77]

Stinger make sure you load mavaericks on your plane. Maybe you dont have any on it and that is why the MFD is black.

Hit 7 and cycle through your weapons to get to the mavericks then a picture appear showing the seeker head and want it is looking at.

[Rogue9]

I'm using 3.10
There was only one time I had a blank TVM and that was after running LOMAC for a long time and LOMAC gets cranky if I run it for a long time. Haven't tried the campaign yet, but in Mission editor, single missions, FBP, and Instant Action work fine.

[Stinger22]

Guys give us a little credit after all this time. It is a program problem not an operator problem.

Of course we have Mav's loaded.
Of course we have not emptied our stores.
No the Mav is not looking up at the sky.

It's an intermittant problem with many. In fact if you lock on through the HUD you will notice the TVM is locking on but just doesn't give the Mav picture.

Ubi or whomever is giving tech support and reporting bugs and reporting on the parch, a simple question. Is this being addressed in the patch?

We all know how to work em, we need technical assistance.

HP a230N
AMD2800
Radeon 9000 64
Cat 3.6
Windows XP all current
768 mem
DX 9.0b
playing at 1024 x 768 32

[Stinger22]

>>it should be pointed out that a r9000 is NOT A GAMING CARD.

It clearing states so on the box. Why is it NOT a GAMING-CARD and if not why does it work so well in other GAMES such as IL2FB, MOH, CoD, FS9, NFS?

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AMD2800
Radeon 9000 64
Cat 3.6
Windows XP all current
768 mem
DX 9.0b
playing at 1024 x 768 32

[DayGlow]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eXtra_Corrosiv:
as far as I can remember I've never seen someone from UBISOFT on this board, so i doubt you'll get an answer. Plus UBI doesn't write the patch anyway.

it should be pointed out that a r9000 is NOT A GAMING CARD. Plus it has dx7 hardware like a r7500.

a radeon 8500 is a gaming card. there IS a huge difference.

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[eXtra_Corrosiv]

MoH and CoD are based on a 4 year old q3 engine.
they run fine on gf2MXs.

you happen to have a great cpu that helps you with Il2FB, and I really don't believe you get that great of performance in il2FB. In Lomac, your cpu is running the radar, the ai, the ai radar, it's much more demanding than Il2 and has a greater draw distance. In Lomac your cpu doesn't have cycles to waste helping your Graphics card keep up.

NFS has alot of pre-rendered stuff in the background. I have NO clue what fs9 is.

I also have no clue why ATI would put "gaming card" on the box when it's common public knowledge that it's not.

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[Nige_Reconman]

The r9000 is a fine gaming card, not he fastest available by any means, but stable and true Dx 8.1 compatible other Radeons are DX 9.0 compatile, FX series are 9.0 compatible and GFTi are dx 8.0 compatible, i beleive the GF mx are only 7.1 compatible or at least still based on that feature set...though i may well be wrong on that last point

I occassionaly get that blank MFD too, but i just keep switching between wepaons and it clears, or i switch views and come back to it.

[Snerdley]

Alright, I'll shut up about DX versions... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

But my GF4 runs everything wonderfully, while the 8500 runs like crap with most driver versions (white textures for trees/roads, blotchy clouds, white sky from some angles, etc.)

The 8500 only runs -ok- with the Cat 3.6 drivers and then I don't get ANY TVM video, ever.

I'm also suprised that the GF4TiXXXX is not 8.1, while the 8500 I bought over a year before the GF4 is???

Snerdley
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"Fire warning light are ESPECIALLY bright at night!"
-US Navy Pilot

[Stinger22]

Well finally got the straight answer. No they did not address the non-functioning TVM and now they have screwed up the rotary zoom for HOTAS set-ups which was the workaround.

And BTW looked at video cards at Best Buy today. Clearly the ATI9000 has gaming writing all over the box, tauting how well it will run with all it's enhanced features and fully Dx8.1 supportede.

What a joke.

HP a230N
AMD2800
Radeon 9000 64
Cat 3.6
Windows XP all current
768 mem
DX 9.0b
playing at 1024 x 768 32