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captainjy
03-24-2004, 05:52 PM
I am sure you are all going to say it's just me, but really, is it me or do the graphics look kinda jagged? I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, it runs great, but it's like there is no anti-aliasing and it's turned on in XP. Any suggestions or comments?

captainjy
03-24-2004, 05:52 PM
I am sure you are all going to say it's just me, but really, is it me or do the graphics look kinda jagged? I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, it runs great, but it's like there is no anti-aliasing and it's turned on in XP. Any suggestions or comments?

slaggo
03-24-2004, 06:23 PM
no idea...i'm enjoying the superior graphics on my xbox.

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fireball590
03-24-2004, 06:25 PM
I've got a 9800xt... theres nothing you can do about it... its the game engine. If you turn up all your options full bore, you'll experience side-effect a.k.a. seeing lights glowing through walls.

*sigh* all that money and still jaggies

Paulie.
03-24-2004, 06:25 PM
You mean in Night Vision ? Or just normal ?
Could you host some .bmp screens ? Just give us a link.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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fireball590
03-24-2004, 06:26 PM
p.s. the PC gfx are the supior.. two times better than xbox... sorry to break it to all you xbox'rs out there, but I've made the comparison (AND ITS NO CONTEST!)

HarvenDEJ
03-24-2004, 06:26 PM
Oh stop with the Xbox graphics stuff.. compare pictures and you'll see a huge difference.. hey captainjy.. I've noticed that ATI cards run this game with a little more jaggies, and slightly washy textures sometimes... then say.. and Nvidia card. Do you have the latest drivers.. perhaps Omega's drivers might do something.. who knows..

captainjy
03-24-2004, 06:41 PM
HarvenDEJ and everyone, thanx for the response. That's a little disappointing. Splinter Cell (the first one) was perfect, but this one is jagged. I rolled back to 3.9 and it didn't help. I am running 4.3 again and AA is turned up, but nada. I mean, it's still fun, but I just expected a little better graphics. Just to make sure that AA was working, I started up Call of Duty and Medal of Honor and both are as smooth as ever, but not PT. Bummer.

You0Cant0KillMe
03-24-2004, 06:45 PM
The Shadows for my opinion are horrible.very Jagged... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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Razer_54
03-24-2004, 06:59 PM
That's a shame to hear. I was hoping Ubi would make PT with a little less bias towards nVidia cards, but I guess that is not the case - oh well!

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nighthawk2dr
03-24-2004, 07:12 PM
Why would they? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

SublimeOne
03-24-2004, 07:15 PM
dispite all our *****in', wouldn't you guys agree this game rocks! I loving this crap! Seriously, I'm making love to my Xbox.....*akward silence*......or not http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

jynxycat
03-24-2004, 07:17 PM
it's because the game engine doesnt use anti-aliasing.

you can turn it on, and smooth things out. but then you'll get these weird light glitches, with light rendering through walls or something.

its in the game's engine itself. why they didn't attempt to fix it from the first one.. who knows.

Colevant
03-24-2004, 07:17 PM
try higher rez

tokatek
03-24-2004, 07:46 PM
Could some of the owners of the pc version please post some screenshots from ingame? Things like out in the open (no vision modes), using night vision, etc. and also listing what your details and resolution. I'd like to know what to expect before I get the game tomorrow (yeah, that's already decided).

Funcotron_Joe
03-24-2004, 07:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by captainjy:
HarvenDEJ and everyone, thanx for the response. That's a little disappointing. Splinter Cell (the first one) was perfect, but this one is jagged. I rolled back to 3.9 and it didn't help. I am running 4.3 again and AA is turned up, but nada. I mean, it's still fun, but I just expected a little better graphics. Just to make sure that AA was working, I started up Call of Duty and Medal of Honor and both are as smooth as ever, but not PT. Bummer.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well thats a real BUMMER, cos yesterday i've already ordered the ASUS 9600XT/TVD video card. IT was either this or the Nvidia GeForce FX 5700. And i just went with ATI this time simply cos they have pretty good cards nowadays. But man this sucks, if its gonna be all jaggy and stuff. Ohh well i needed an upgrade anyways, cos my old GF4 MX440 had to get replaced anyways. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

captainjy
03-24-2004, 07:53 PM
I have a Dell 1901FP LCD and can only go 1280 X 1024.

Funcotron_Joe
03-24-2004, 07:59 PM
Hey captain can you make couple of screenshots where it shows the jagginess or some abbnormal stuff if you can please. I just really like to see how bad it is. Maybe ill still be able to change my order for a Nvidia FX card.

Lure.
03-24-2004, 08:23 PM
Your res mainly depends on your graph card.. if Im right http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FX serie suck.. best buy = Radeon 9800Pro.. - 220euro's

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OdDmor
03-24-2004, 08:31 PM
I think there are ways to force AA and Ansiostropic filtering...I haven't tried it on the game myself yet, but its worth a shot. You could try some 3rd party programs if you're really intent on doing so. Somethin like Powerstrip could do the job.

captainjy
03-24-2004, 08:58 PM
Anyhow have a place where I can put a screenshot?

captainjy
03-24-2004, 08:59 PM
Also, my card goes up to 1600 X 1200, but the game will only allow me to go up to 1280 X 1024, which should work since Call of Duty and other games look great with AA turned on.

captainjy
03-24-2004, 09:39 PM
Finally got my Comcast site configured. Here is a pic that says it all...hope it works...

http://home.comcast.net/~captainjy/Shot0002.jpg

[This message was edited by SKULLS_Hawk on Thu March 25 2004 at 03:52 AM.]

captainjy
03-24-2004, 09:48 PM
Last post regarding this, but look at the diff between PT and Call of Duty:

http://home.comcast.net/~captainjy/shot0010.jpg

[This message was edited by SKULLS_Hawk on Thu March 25 2004 at 03:52 AM.]

tokatek
03-24-2004, 10:03 PM
darn. I was expecting better than that. Oh well, now I know what to expect. Thanks for the screens! Yeah, I know what you're comparing it against, I also have a 9800 Pro and games like UT2K4 (stated just because it's the latest game I've played) look quite nice with AA/AF on.

Anyways, thanks for the screens again!

steviep831
03-24-2004, 10:06 PM
Holy Jimminy Crickets! Wow, captainjy! A friend brought over PT tonight to show me. Mine's on order...(it can't come fast enough!) but I didn't see anything like your screenshot! I'm just amazed. I'm running an older 128 MB nVidia 4200Ti at 1270x768 and it's beautiful (I'll try higher rez later). I've got Call of Duty (shortest game ever!) and the graphics on PT blow it out of the water. It could be this ATI phenomenon that it just won't play the graphics right, but I have to say that my PC version should also be blowing xbox....well... out of the water. I'm running a 2.8Ghz HT with a Raptor serial drive and 512MB ram. No jaggies, no hicups, no nothin' but smooth playing! My friend's computer has been hiccuping a lot though. That's why he came over to my crib.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Mystic_Rage
03-24-2004, 10:26 PM
Call of duty is fun. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Anywayz, guys, u must be crazy( http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif ) because i have ATI Radeon 9800 PRO card and i get no such jaggedness..... I have a Dell Dimension XPS System. I dunno, maybe its ure comps? Im finding no graphics problems on my game..

WickidAngel
03-24-2004, 10:29 PM
On xbox i notice a little Jag or something
If you play with no visual inhacements added
the lights on Sam's head there seems to be like a mist floating around it like little box's? one of a few things i noticed but im not going to list them all

captainjy
03-25-2004, 12:20 AM
I am baffled! I re-installed the old Splinter Cell, no problemo. Sharp, smooth and nice. Not PT. Strange. I have a P4, 3Ghz machine, 1GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, 120GB Western Dig drive and other games look beautiful, but PT is jagged. Strange.

Can someone please post some ATI 9800 screenshots? I am curious how it's looking for others. I just don't understand how COD can be so pristine and PT is so jagged. WTF?!?!?

[This message was edited by captainjy on Wed March 24 2004 at 11:37 PM.]

CordlessPen
03-25-2004, 01:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by captainjy:
I just don't understand how COD can be so pristine and PT is so jagged. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Simple... PT doesn't support FSAA... Just like Halo. Deal with it, or force AA on it (Forcing AA usually means HUGE drops in performance, and may not even work).

captainjy
03-25-2004, 01:14 AM
Just how do I force AA? Even if I enable AA in the Control Panel, it won't force AA?

mrtibbs2
03-25-2004, 04:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Funcotron_Joe:
Well thats a real BUMMER, cos yesterday i've already ordered the ASUS 9600XT/TVD video card. IT was either this or the Nvidia GeForce FX 5700. And i just went with ATI this time simply cos they have pretty good cards nowadays. But man this sucks, if its gonna be all jaggy and stuff. Ohh well i needed an upgrade anyways, cos my old GF4 MX440 had to get replaced anyways. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

mmm...I agree. I too was considering a 9600XT. My other option, like you, is a 5700 (non-ultra). I had pretty much convinced myself to go the ATI option, but now I'm not so sure...

I'm so glad I held off on purchasing the card and the game - I think I'll wait a little to work out exactly what I'm gonna go!

Lure.
03-25-2004, 04:42 AM
Joe, you should've bought a 9800Pro..
I bought the 9600xt for 180 Euros cuz now I got the HL2 coupon http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
In other words, I only paid 130euros for my video card http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif (If hl2 will come out someday..)

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DisTurBeD_MuNkY
03-25-2004, 04:44 AM
I prefer it on XBox.. I wouldn't say the PC graphics are much better if at all really.. lets face it, its a designed for XBox game and its ported to the PC as such http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Anyway.. being serious, I Prefer the XBox view.. the PC one seems much closer to Sam, and it makes it less fun IMHO.

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CriztyLHazE
03-25-2004, 04:51 AM
Wow, a PC to PC port. Interesting.

It's not the same as, say, a PS2 to PC port. Why do you think they are so similar...

Graphics will always be better on a HIGH-END pc...period. Resolution and texture quality always &gt; on the pc next to a TV and a tiny bit of RAM in a game console.

XyZspineZyX
03-25-2004, 04:55 AM
I really wish people would stop this comparrison rubbish. PC is capable of higher res, and it will forever main as such.

But Xbox isn't bad at all. Some people are graphics *****s and some aren't.

One is not better than the other, it is all a matter of preferance.

Enough with the my car is bigger, flashier and faster than yours.

Also, this might be better suited to the tech support forums, as if may be a settings/driver issue. Not sure but better answer there, so post the link to your screenshot there and ask for any comparrisons.

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CriztyLHazE
03-25-2004, 04:58 AM
Exactly...

DisTurBeD_MuNkY
03-25-2004, 05:00 AM
Personally I think everyone just likes to think its better on PC.. cause I mean, I have a pretty decent PC and I don't think it looks any better.. I guess its just as Skull said.. down to opinion.

PC :
9800 PRO 256MB
AMD 2800 K7 Barton
1GB PC3200 RAM

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captainjy
03-25-2004, 02:47 PM
Funcotron_Joe,
It's not really that bad. It still looks good, it just doesn't look as good as my other games like Call of Duty, GTA Vice City (which looks the best, btw), Medal of Honor and Jedi Knight. And it might just be my system. Maybe i need to reinstall it. I would like to see some screenshots from other ATI 9800 Pro users. Please post em'!

m_mcdermid
03-25-2004, 02:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by captainjy:
I am sure you are all going to say it's just me, but really, is it me or do the graphics look kinda jagged? I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, it runs great, but it's like there is no anti-aliasing and it's turned on in XP. Any suggestions or comments?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Are u running the demo or not? Apparently, the mp demo has the lowest texture pack but the ful game mp has the same as the SP demo. So overall the demos have worse textures than the full game.

captainjy
03-25-2004, 02:54 PM
I have the full version. I noticed that jaggedness in the single player demo, but as I said earlier, it's not THAT bad, but it could be much better.

RepXt
03-25-2004, 03:37 PM
Yeah I guess that's why a lot of people have issues with it 'it could be a lot better'...

XyZspineZyX
03-25-2004, 03:38 PM
[URL=http://img13.photobucket.com[/URL] try here a good place for pictures only

http://img13.photobucket.com/albums/v37/Blueice/sam2.jpg

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DEFX1980
03-25-2004, 04:04 PM
the game is real jagged IMO. but im used to CoD with 4xAA. PT would look real nice with 4xAA. but would run like crap when walking through those light effects.

protocalx
03-25-2004, 04:08 PM
Ok, I didn't read this entire post, but it seems to be a busy one.
What I want to know is why, when in MP mode, I set my graphics to 1024x768/High, then click validate, it doesn't do it for me? it stay in 640 or whatever the default is. I have to go into the default.ini file and change the res there, but that doesn't solve the high graphics thing, because I don't know what to change. and yes, my card can run it just fine ;]

captainjy
03-25-2004, 05:24 PM
I had a similar problem, but I think my problem is that my monitor will not go above 1280X1024. I tried 1600X1200 and it stays in 1280X1024.

captainjy
03-25-2004, 07:52 PM
I am going to let this topic rest, but I wanted to post a screenshot from a buddy of mine who has a GeForce 4 something or other. His looks as bad as mine so I am content knowing that others are seeing the same jaggedness. I just think the graphics suck compared to the first SC. Thanks to everyone for their input. http://home.comcast.net/~captainjy/Shot0000.jpg