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darkhaven3
07-15-2004, 03:31 PM
http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/SCL_PAL00.bmp

I present to the community the Splinter Cell Palette!

darkhaven3
07-15-2004, 03:31 PM
http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/SCL_PAL00.bmp

I present to the community the Splinter Cell Palette!

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2004, 03:37 PM
what is it?

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Alien_Slayer
07-15-2004, 03:37 PM
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07-15-2004, 03:44 PM
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Alien_Slayer
07-15-2004, 03:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Da_shoota:
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Tejo.hr
07-15-2004, 03:54 PM
Can you please exlane us what is that DH3?

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Tejo.hr
07-15-2004, 03:54 PM
Can you please exlane us what is that DH3?

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darkhaven3
07-15-2004, 03:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Da_shoota:
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Are you a mod? I think not. I won't say any more...

And an update: Both Abbatoir levels have been hacked clean, and I've discovered an inactivity behavior entry:

00: 8E

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Now, who would be stupid enough to try and recreate Splinter Cell under the Wolfenstein 3D Engine? *hurries and deletes sourcecode*

darkhaven3
07-15-2004, 03:58 PM
The colors in the first post are what makes up the Splinter Cell Palette. The "00: 8E" thing is an Inactive entry in the second Abbatoir map.

And, do you all remember that long period when I disappeared? Well, can you guess what I was doing? Yeah, I was making the first custom Splinter Cell map, heheheheheh...

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2004, 04:01 PM
I don't really understand.
But what all have you modded yet?
and do you have more pics?

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Tejo.hr
07-15-2004, 04:05 PM
And is there a page where I could see progress of that map?

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darkhaven3
07-15-2004, 04:13 PM
The only thing it is right now is a single grass box. Mostly I've been figuring out the texture system and reverse-engineering the .scl map format. I've only uncovered 3 textures and 2 nObj ID's:

Texture #1 : GRAS00F
Texture #2 : MET3BLU
Texture #3 : FLA900C

nObj #1 : Player 1 Start, ID is -1
nObj #2 : Civilian 1, ID is 3058

So, for obvious reasons, not much progress has been made on the actual map, but more on figuring out the texture system, nObj system, and the nodes format (to compile the map correctly).

Also, I believe I sent Aj6627 a pic of the map's progress a while back. Ask him what happened, http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Now, who would be stupid enough to try and recreate Splinter Cell under the Wolfenstein 3D Engine? *hurries and deletes sourcecode*

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2004, 04:13 PM
And we do this for fun or a living?<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darkhaven3:
The colors in the first post are what makes up the Splinter Cell Palette. The "00: 8E" thing is an Inactive entry in the second Abbatoir map.

And, do you all remember that long period when I disappeared? Well, can you guess what I was doing? Yeah, I was making the first custom Splinter Cell map, heheheheheh...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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darkhaven3
07-15-2004, 04:15 PM
For fun. I'm 13. I can't get a job yet. And in case you were wondering about that last 2 remarks, I'm an experienced Doom mapper and Modder, and I know my way around Hex Editors really well.

Now, who would be stupid enough to try and recreate Splinter Cell under the Wolfenstein 3D Engine? *hurries and deletes sourcecode*

KU_
07-15-2004, 05:12 PM
OMG!!! Your sig is sooo frigging annoying!!! HEHE jus thought id tell ya tht. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif


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njcl
07-15-2004, 05:26 PM
man if anybody deserves success its you darkhaven,your dedication to editing splinter cell is phenominal....... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2004, 06:09 PM
He sent me a pic a while back of Sam standing in a world that was just a bunch colors.
It was pretty coolhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Derwen_Llewelyn
07-15-2004, 06:21 PM
Ummm..Darkhaven3...maybe my request is strange, but please... can you give me an "uax" and "u" format extractor? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
or at least try to explain me how to open those formats... please.

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darkhaven3
07-15-2004, 07:31 PM
First, download XWE (eXtendable Wad Editor) by Csabo, and extract it to any folder. You don't need an iWad to use it. Then, open any file you want and the entries will appear on the side. To extract an entry to an external file, click once on the entry, then go to the top menu and choose Entry-&gt;Save As.

Now, who would be stupid enough to try and recreate Splinter Cell under the Wolfenstein 3D Engine? *hurries and deletes sourcecode*

halo_99
07-15-2004, 07:39 PM
Talk about a Dej Vu...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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darkhaven3
07-15-2004, 08:11 PM
I've just discovered what I call a "generalized effect."

45879 : Light Switch / Set Lighting to hi-tag

argument 1: lo-tag...?
argument 2: unknown...
argument 3: hi-tag (I think)
argument 4: segment trigger?
argument 5: unknown...

Most of the arguments are only speculation ATM. If I can find a map file that isn't truncated to 512 entries, I can confirm this. And, now, the only things to do to have this effect implemented into my map is to figure out the sObj ID of the light switch, I need to figure out the 5 arguments for this generalized effect, and I need to learn about hi-tags and lo-tags as well as using dummy sectors, from what I can tell from the commercial maps.

Now, who would be stupid enough to try and recreate Splinter Cell under the Wolfenstein 3D Engine? *hurries and deletes sourcecode*

darkhaven3
07-15-2004, 09:01 PM
ANOTHER UPDATE: I've come up with a little something for glitchy custom maps, for those other than me who have figured out how to do it.

You must take a look at the exact size of the map (in bytes) and replace the existing header ID on the map file with the byte size of your new map in a hex editor. It is a very fragile hack, so be careful...

I'm expecting UBI to crack down on my cheap-hacker-*** any second now...

[This message was edited by darkhaven3 on Thu July 15 2004 at 08:15 PM.]

darkhaven3
07-15-2004, 09:48 PM
ANOTHER REALLY GOOD UPDATE WHICH ALSO SERVES AS A BUMP : I've begun writing CEU, the Cell Editing Utilities. One day, you all will be able to make your own Splinter Cell maps. I mean, I've already broken through Ubi's map format and decoded some of it! And, if any official UBI employees are reading this, your sales probably won't decline too much; this editor will probably only work with the original Splinter Cell http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

But hey, I don't have to release it if nobody cares...

EDIT: Screw that. CEU is off the ground, based on the DEU source, and I've successfully got it saving .SCL files. Problem is, I need to look at the entries in the original .scl files and get it saving the .SCL files properly.

[This message was edited by darkhaven3 on Thu July 15 2004 at 11:20 PM.]

Derwen_Llewelyn
07-16-2004, 07:24 AM
Hey Coolies! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But i have another stupid question: where can i download a program what supports the LMP format?
(i know this is a quake format but still...)

oh..almost forgot: is there any other way to save files as (usx utx ukx anim. files) max, obj or 3ds?

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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2004, 07:28 AM
Hey dark do you think you could get some of the music files from SC into .wav or .mp3 for me and send them to me please?

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Axeman52.5
07-16-2004, 09:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally written on a piece of paper and passed around the class by darkhaven3:
EDIT: Screw that. CEU is off the ground, based on the DEU source, and I've successfully got it saving .SCL files. Problem is, I need to look at the entries in the original .scl files and get it saving the .SCL files _properly._<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Terrax213
07-16-2004, 09:53 AM
LOL

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darkhaven3
07-16-2004, 12:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Derwy:
Hey Coolies! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But i have another stupid question: where can i download a program what supports the LMP format?
(i know this is a quake format but still...)

oh..almost forgot: is there any other way to save files as (usx utx ukx anim. files) max, obj or 3ds?

Thanks! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

XWE supports all of them. When you click File-&gt;New, under the filetype dropdown menu, click "All Files," and at the end of your filename, put your extension.

And by the way, LMP is a Doom filetype. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Now, who would be stupid enough to try and recreate Splinter Cell under the Wolfenstein 3D Engine? *hurries and deletes sourcecode*

Derwen_Llewelyn
07-16-2004, 12:59 PM
Oh...thanks..
But i was pretty sure the lmp is a quake1 format... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif *ish stupid i know*

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darkhaven3
07-16-2004, 01:03 PM
No, actually it's a pretty common mix-up. It's just that LMP's are used in a much greater role in Doom than Quake; LMPs make up the entire game, while in Quake they're just demos (IIRC).

Now, who would be stupid enough to try and recreate Splinter Cell under the Wolfenstein 3D Engine? *hurries and deletes sourcecode*

darkhaven3
07-16-2004, 01:12 PM
CEU UPDATE:

I've optimized the way that the CEU finds hi-tags in maps and I'm experimenting with the Splinter Cell map format for use in CEU.

SLIGHT UPDATE:

I'm working on implementing the ability to read the Inactive entry in the original .SCL files...

[This message was edited by darkhaven3 on Fri July 16 2004 at 12:55 PM.]

XyZspineZyX
07-16-2004, 02:30 PM
Hey dark can you extract some of the music into files that Windows media player will read please?
Thanks.

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Discovered the one kill game/1st post BG&E/2nd post SC3
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darkhaven3
07-16-2004, 09:01 PM
I've updated CEU: The CEU now serves dual purposes as a Doom editor and a Splinter Cell editor. Also, I've begun the process of working on the real Splinter Cell map system. So far, it's very very glitchy and hardly works at all, but so far I can make a .SCL file that doesn't crash the game entirely. The game will start up, and when I press new game, it bombs out. Before, the game didn't even start up. The problem is going to be the internal entries in the .SCL's...

Now, who would be stupid enough to try and recreate Splinter Cell under the Wolfenstein 3D Engine? *hurries and deletes sourcecode*

stealthygeek
07-18-2004, 12:14 PM
When CEU is done, will it need the original SC computer disc to work???

And do you have a website, where I can see the work in progress...?