M1014C Gameplay

[suprhero]

Enjoy and have a nice day


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riROqLK-Lyo

[gameshoes]

Supaharo!

[JohnoBurr]

Looks like I would definitely enjoy that shotgun. Better than the pentagun?

[Creepermoss]

Dang, super, your vids always make me smile. I use the full length version of the benelli, and I think it's awesome. That's a vertical foregrip, and the 1x optic? Same set-up I run on the full size.

@Johno, it's a bit more damage than the penta, with a longer reload, due to the tube mag. Not really an issue if you top it off every couple of shells.

[suprhero]

Looks like I would definitely enjoy that shotgun. Better than the pentagun?


Its good not better but different, the RELOAD is slow, its single Shelled not a revolver like then Pen and wen you have exhausted all rounds the game will only automatically reload 1 shell, sometimes you forget to reload come out of hiding to meet more then one Baddie with 1 Shell in the chamber. the handling is fun, the range is very short and its a weak POP. but non the less the speed is ridiculous it sprays and shoots buck-shots like a drunk guy at a urinal.

http://oi44.tinypic.com/2jb8rrm.jpg

[AllStyle]

Just another Showing of how Way way way way to easy tyhe Shotguns are to use, and how the Spread is to Little and how the Distance is to far.

All in all nice Vid and yeah i tried the shotgun on the last day and my Score improved 10 folds..

[Creepermoss]

Just another Showing of how Way way way way to easy tyhe Shotguns are to use, and how the Spread is to Little and how the Distance is to far.

All in all nice Vid and yeah i tried the shotgun on the last day and my Score improved 10 folds..

They're not "so easy to use". There are a number of things that add up to make them appear the way you perceive them.

1) the small, fairly close ranges found on most maps gives the shotguns an advantage, by keeping most firefights inside of the gun's effective range. If we had some more open maps, they would be less useful, and you'd see less of them.

2) You remember being killed by a shotgun, but do you also take note of every shotgun user you kill? Probably not. Also, no-one is posting videos of themselves failing with a shotgun. All you see is the few people that really shine with them, using them well enough that they "make it look easy", just like a professional athlete while playing his particular sport. Dunking a basketball looks fairly simple when you watch someone like Vince Carter. Go try to do the things he does in your driveway with the same level of skill.

3)I (and probably most of the shotgun masters here) can maintain the same kdr with any other class of weapons. Those of us that choose the shotgun over another weapon use them because they fit well with the way we like to play. I'm an aggressive player, trying to do that with a gun that has less up-front damage delivery wouldn't work as well for me, so I run the shotgun.

I believe that you, Allstyle, have no exposure to real world shotgun mechanics. Here's a video showing what a mossberg 500 series will do at 80 yards, which is well beyond (like 3x or more) the effective range in GRO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hZ8qiyvi-M

The shotgun spread in GRO is actually more than in the real world, I think this was done for balancing purposes. If a 20" shotgun can put most of the pellets on a 36" wide target at 80 yards, they can certainly put all of them on a 20-24" wide target at less than 30 yards. I measure 22" wide at the breastbone, or "center mass", the point most shooters are taught to aim for.

[JohnoBurr]

Just another Showing of how Way way way way to easy tyhe Shotguns are to use, and how the Spread is to Little and how the Distance is to far.

All in all nice Vid and yeah i tried the shotgun on the last day and my Score improved 10 folds..

I am getting so tired of seeing posts like this. As for the reload on the M1014, I don't think it would be a problem for me since I basically reload everytime I take someone down.


3)I (and probably most of the shotgun masters here) can maintain the same kdr with any other class of weapons. Those of us that choose the shotgun over another weapon use them because they fit well with the way we like to play. I'm an aggressive player, trying to do that with a gun that has less up-front damage delivery wouldn't work as well for me, so I run the shotgun.

I'll use an AR depending on the situation, but I tend to main shotguns. But I stay versatile.

[gameshoes]

I believe that you, Allstyle, have no exposure to real world shotgun mechanics. Here's a video showing what a mossberg 500 series will do at 80 yards, which is well beyond (like 3x or more) the effective range in GRO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hZ8qiyvi-M
Remember that GRO is a game. Using things like this to support your claim is generally weak.
The objective of this game is not to reach any level of realism, it's to use unrealistic setting/environments to make fluid tactical play.

[JohnoBurr]

Remember that GRO is a game. Using things like this to support your claim is generally weak.
The objective of this game is not to reach any level of realism, it's to use unrealistic setting/environments to make fluid tactical play.

Just because it's a game doesn't mean it can't model ballistics in a realistic way.

[Creepermoss]

Remember that GRO is a game. Using things like this to support your claim is generally weak.
The objective of this game is not to reach any level of realism, it's to use unrealistic setting/environments to make fluid tactical play.

I was attempting to show the realism vs the balance ingame. If the guns ingame did as they do in reality, then yes, they'd be OP. It speaks to the nature of the poster, to say his score multiplies by ten, with no proof. Sounds like a fishermans' tale to me. When I run an lmg, my average kdr is 1.3, when I run a shotgun, it's like 1.4. For it to be "10 fold", I'd need to achieve a 13.0 kdr, and that's a bit outlandish, wouldn't you say?

[Agent.Ruse]

Just another Showing of how Way way way way to easy tyhe Shotguns are to use, and how the Spread is to Little and how the Distance is to far.

All in all nice Vid and yeah i tried the shotgun on the last day and my Score improved 10 folds..

Easy?

Almost every-single-kill was from flanking and getting the drop or "Snipers" in the back. The few times he went head to head, he was dropped.

[Agent.Ruse]

They're not "so easy to use". There are a number of things that add up to make them appear the way you perceive them.

1) the small, fairly close ranges found on most maps gives the shotguns an advantage, by keeping most firefights inside of the gun's effective range. If we had some more open maps, they would be less useful, and you'd see less of them.

2) You remember being killed by a shotgun, but do you also take note of every shotgun user you kill? Probably not. Also, no-one is posting videos of themselves failing with a shotgun. All you see is the few people that really shine with them, using them well enough that they "make it look easy", just like a professional athlete while playing his particular sport. Dunking a basketball looks fairly simple when you watch someone like Vince Carter. Go try to do the things he does in your driveway with the same level of skill.

3)I (and probably most of the shotgun masters here) can maintain the same kdr with any other class of weapons. Those of us that choose the shotgun over another weapon use them because they fit well with the way we like to play. I'm an aggressive player, trying to do that with a gun that has less up-front damage delivery wouldn't work as well for me, so I run the shotgun.

I believe that you, Allstyle, have no exposure to real world shotgun mechanics. Here's a video showing what a mossberg 500 series will do at 80 yards, which is well beyond (like 3x or more) the effective range in GRO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hZ8qiyvi-M

The shotgun spread in GRO is actually more than in the real world, I think this was done for balancing purposes. If a 20" shotgun can put most of the pellets on a 36" wide target at 80 yards, they can certainly put all of them on a 20-24" wide target at less than 30 yards. I measure 22" wide at the breastbone, or "center mass", the point most shooters are taught to aim for.

This video is done by an accomplished shooter and is much more fun to watch.

Besides, there are so many of us that have a special place for the ol' A1. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmdMNwSxEcs

[serialxt]

This video is done by an accomplished shooter and is much more fun to watch.

Besides, there are so many of us that have a special place for the ol' A1. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmdMNwSxEcs

People who complain about shotgun accuracy need to watch this and skip to 14:00

[Agent.Ruse]

People who complain about shotgun accuracy need to watch this and skip to 14:00

It really comes down to people not having any shotgun experience at all - what they've been exposed to in video games does not count.

Note:

At about 15 mins he starts slinging 3" #00 at the gong.

I assure you, shotguns do not have any trouble making their mark at distance with buck or slugs.

[DracoFilia]

They're not "so easy to use". There are a number of things that add up to make them appear the way you perceive them.

1) the small, fairly close ranges found on most maps gives the shotguns an advantage, by keeping most firefights inside of the gun's effective range. If we had some more open maps, they would be less useful, and you'd see less of them.

2) You remember being killed by a shotgun, but do you also take note of every shotgun user you kill? Probably not. Also, no-one is posting videos of themselves failing with a shotgun. All you see is the few people that really shine with them, using them well enough that they "make it look easy", just like a professional athlete while playing his particular sport. Dunking a basketball looks fairly simple when you watch someone like Vince Carter. Go try to do the things he does in your driveway with the same level of skill.

3)I (and probably most of the shotgun masters here) can maintain the same kdr with any other class of weapons. Those of us that choose the shotgun over another weapon use them because they fit well with the way we like to play. I'm an aggressive player, trying to do that with a gun that has less up-front damage delivery wouldn't work as well for me, so I run the shotgun.

I believe that you, Allstyle, have no exposure to real world shotgun mechanics. Here's a video showing what a mossberg 500 series will do at 80 yards, which is well beyond (like 3x or more) the effective range in GRO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hZ8qiyvi-M

The shotgun spread in GRO is actually more than in the real world, I think this was done for balancing purposes. If a 20" shotgun can put most of the pellets on a 36" wide target at 80 yards, they can certainly put all of them on a 20-24" wide target at less than 30 yards. I measure 22" wide at the breastbone, or "center mass", the point most shooters are taught to aim for.

Glad ye noticed that =p At the home defense ranges you see in the video, it should be relatively easy to pop someone in the head in real life. Obviously in a game, that wouldn't be terribly fun. Another thing to note is that in GRO, the damage falls off over range, so the shotgun can hit a target with fewer pellets at reduced damage at the longer range but they wouldn't be quite as effective as say an assault rifle in the hands of a competent user.

[chemzero]

Glad ye noticed that =p At the home defense ranges you see in the video, it should be relatively easy to pop someone in the head in real life. Obviously in a game, that wouldn't be terribly fun. Another thing to note is that in GRO, the damage falls off over range, so the shotgun can hit a target with fewer pellets at reduced damage at the longer range but they wouldn't be quite as effective as say an assault rifle in the hands of a competent user.


If the dead could speak I wonder how many people would be cursing the AA12 as horrendously OP...

[JoshHardenburg]

Never put the gun I want to own someday in this game!

All Hail the AA12!!!!! /bow

[chemzero]

For the lulz and in case some people don't know what the AA12 is:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ebtj1jR7c

[JoshHardenburg]

I like the way this guy explains the AA12 xD sounds like a Boss.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUVeyaY_8&feature=player_embedded#!


PS: 2 is better then 1.

Edit: Had to show my gun some love!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiPBGp3D4AY

[Creepermoss]

The AA-12 is OP.

[chemzero]

I love that FPSRussia video, it's so boss.

[Creepermoss]

I own a mossberg 500, she holds 7 shells with a 20" barrel, and I would trade her in for a Benelli without hesitation. I'd like to post a video here also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3REuUog4iaA


And I'd also like to say, as one of the top ten for shotgun kills, I would support a RoF reduction, or a recoil increase, neither of these would make the ingame shotguns unviable (as many other shooting games have nerfed them in to uselessness) while lessening the perception of them being overpowered.

EDIT: thanks to whomever was kind enough to find and post the embed code for me.

[chemzero]

I embedded the vid for you :) Just make sure the "&related=blahblah" is taken out and the link is pasted into the wizard (via clicking the film strip in the reply toolbar) looks like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3REuUog4iaA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3REuUog4iaA&feature=related)

Enjoy!

[Agent.Ruse]

I own a mossberg 500, she holds 7 shells with a 20" barrel, and I would trade her in for a Benelli without hesitation. I'd like to post a video here also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3REuUog4iaA


And I'd also like to say, as one of the top ten for shotgun kills, I would support a RoF reduction, or a recoil increase, neither of these would make the ingame shotguns unviable (as many other shooting games have nerfed them in to uselessness) while lessening the perception of them being overpowered.

EDIT: thanks to whomever was kind enough to find and post the embed code for me.

I own the Moss 590A1 and the Benelli M4. I don't think I'd give one up for the other. The Moss is strong - well built. My A1 is a 20" with bayonet lug. The Benelli does not have a bayonet lug. You are also talking to someone that has a bayonet for his sidearms though...one of them being a revolver.

My suggestion would be to purchase the Benellie in addition to your Moss. :)