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Dmask89
01-04-2005, 04:52 PM
this year i'll be able to finally get a job after my bday (march 14th) and was thinking of building my own computer. i was wondering if anyone knows any online stores that sell in parts for cheap prices.

njcl
01-04-2005, 04:56 PM
newegg.com seems to be popular online in the U.S

Dmask89
01-04-2005, 04:57 PM
oops i forgot to mention canadian stores lol

gnogtr
01-04-2005, 05:15 PM
Newegg will ship to Canada, but you may want to compare prices with www.zipzoomfly.com (http://www.zipzoomfly.com) on shipping.

quillan
01-04-2005, 05:36 PM
There's also http://www.tigerdirect.ca/ . I use Newegg myself, but I'm in the US.

Dmask89
01-04-2005, 06:20 PM
thanks for the link quillan. thats the place i was thinking of but i had forgetten the name lol.

Da_shoota
01-04-2005, 06:30 PM
so what kind of PC are ya building?

Dmask89
01-04-2005, 06:34 PM
is the Radeon X600 128mb gfx card good?
i want it to be a mid range or high end gaming computer. depending on how much money i get from my bday and from the job that i'll hopefully be getting after my bday lol

BliNd-
01-04-2005, 06:45 PM
I think www.mwave.com (http://www.mwave.com) has pretty good prices, thats where gets alot of our computer stuff.

Dmask89
01-04-2005, 06:48 PM
ok this is what i've found so far- 512mb RAM maybe x2, 40gb HD, motherboard with AMD Athlon 2900, radeon X600 128 mb (or X700), creative labs audigy OEM, 12x dvd burner/player, cpu fan, PCI fan (if needed) and a 17" LCD monitor. all for around $1300 CDN. give or take a few hundred. is that good?

quillan
01-04-2005, 06:59 PM
I would wait on the video card. The X700 is about to be phased out and replaced by the X800, which is a variation on the X800 Pro chip. It's going to be a better card for the same (roughly) money. I'd also recommend that if you are going to go with an AMD processor, you'd better go with an Athlon 64. The Athlon XP series didn't perform up to the equivalent Pentium past about the 2400+ model, while each and every Athlon 64 can run rings around any Pentium 4 near it's price. Go for a bigger hard drive. They are cheap enough there is no reason not to have an 80 gig or higher. Also, grab a cheap CD-ROM drive in addition to the DVD drive. Some games have issues between the copy protection on the disk and certain burner brands.

On to specifics. Components come in two varieties: Retail and OEM. OEM stands for Original Equipment Manufacturer. When you buy a component that's listed as OEM, it's going to be barebones. My OEM video card, for instance, came inside some bubble wrap taped together. It included the card, the cables, and the driver disk, but nothing else. There was no box, no software bundle, no extras. It's especially important when it comes to CPUs. A Retail CPU typcially has a 3 year warranty, and comes with a heatsink and fan. An OEM CPU generally has a 30 day warranty, and comes with nothing. If you're planning on buying a separate (better) cooling solution, then go OEM, but if not, the price difference between Retail and OEM processors isn't that much. I put an OEM processor in mine, but I also have this monstrously large Alpha heatsink on it.

NSAagent
01-04-2005, 07:00 PM
Dmask, i'm gonna build my own as well, but i'm getting an AMD 64 3000 Newcastle (or Winchester, can't remember) on a gigabyte socket 754 board.

i'm trying to find a case with a 400W PSU and at least one fan.

also, if you want a mid range card without spending a whole lot, try the 9800 pro or xt. excellent cards for their price.

Dmask89
01-04-2005, 07:07 PM
ok thanks for the help guys.

quillan
01-04-2005, 09:10 PM
NSA, I honestly would not recommend those cards anymore, unless the price has dropped below the $150 range. Why? Because the current set of midrange cards (the X700XT-soon-to-be-X800 and the 6600GT) give higher performance for the same price. The 9800 Pro was a great card, and is still a good one (I own one), but why pay the same for lesser performance?

Dmask89
01-04-2005, 09:26 PM
here the X800 costs around $500 for the 128mb version and the 256mb one costs around $700. a 9800 pro 128 costs $299.
EDIT: at tiger direct the sell geforce 6600 128 mb for $188! is that a good price?

quillan
01-04-2005, 10:59 PM
Not an X800 Pro, X800XT, or X800XT-PE, which are all the upper end cards. ATI is soon to release an X800. It's a modified version of the same chipset, which is going to replace the X700, at about the same price point. It's not currently available, but you can expect it to go for $200-$250 US dollars once it comes out. And as far as the other goes, $188 is a good price if it's a 6600GT. It might be a tad high if it's just a 6600.

Tejo.hr
01-05-2005, 07:35 AM
Eh, you'll need PCIE. What's your motherboard? If you have an older one then it wont work.

quillan
01-05-2005, 07:46 AM
He's talking about building it from scratch, so he can get whatever he wants and needs.

Dmask89
01-05-2005, 10:19 AM
the 6600gt is around $300 i think. depending on the price of the x800 i might just get the 9800pro.

NSAagent
01-05-2005, 12:02 PM
i checked real quick on newegg and tigerdirect, the x700 or x800 doesn't come with in AGP interface...they only come on PCI-E.

and it looks like the x800 is about $350USD. the x700pro is about $180USD. that's really good as i bought my 9800pro for about $200USD.

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quillan
01-05-2005, 02:07 PM
You're doing it too, NSA. Newegg doesn't have an X800. They have an X800 Pro, X800 XT, and X800 SE. The X800 isn't out yet. It's going to replace the X700 card, and be roughly the same price point. This (http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2290) is what I'm referring to. The X800 is supposed to be a 12 pipe chipset, based on the same core that the other X800 cards use, with a different clock speed and only (heh, I'm saying only here) 128 megs of memory, with a suggested retail of $250.

Dmask89
01-05-2005, 02:14 PM
ooooooo i get it now lol. i guess i'll try and get that one then lol