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Bo_Nidle
07-07-2005, 04:17 PM
I leave you lot for 5 minutes and come back to a virtual civil war!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

I loved this forum for its community spirit and general good nature.With the closure of Il2skins.com and the arrival of other games that diverted my interest I haven't spent as much time here as I could have done.What I find now saddens me deeply! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I have read about the allegations,complaints and general alleged underhandedness and would agree that some of it appears to be well founded .

But to punish the many because of the sins of the few is rather punitive and unjust.

I would ask TonyT,Java.serval et al to please reconsider their decisions.Your expertise and inspiration got me embroiled in this skinning lunacy and i have benefited from your works and guidance,as have countless others.

I know its not nice to have your work misappropriated or misused, especially if the other party has gained financial reward from it,but that is,as someone pointed out ,the pitfalls of freeware.I know,I have been where u are now but had to take it philosophically.

I would ask you all to take some time to think it all over and then please return to what you do so well and provide pleasure and inspiration again for the well meaning and good natured members of this community,who are the majority here after all.

And remember; I'm a Cop! If necessary I'll get a warrant,boot in your door and baton you back onto your Pc,s and make you skin...er...Mofo's! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

I believe thats how you Yanks put it?

Come on Guys think it over? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

P.s: I'm 43 today so probably old enough to be your Dad so don't make me come in there!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Bo_Nidle
07-07-2005, 04:17 PM
I leave you lot for 5 minutes and come back to a virtual civil war!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

I loved this forum for its community spirit and general good nature.With the closure of Il2skins.com and the arrival of other games that diverted my interest I haven't spent as much time here as I could have done.What I find now saddens me deeply! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I have read about the allegations,complaints and general alleged underhandedness and would agree that some of it appears to be well founded .

But to punish the many because of the sins of the few is rather punitive and unjust.

I would ask TonyT,Java.serval et al to please reconsider their decisions.Your expertise and inspiration got me embroiled in this skinning lunacy and i have benefited from your works and guidance,as have countless others.

I know its not nice to have your work misappropriated or misused, especially if the other party has gained financial reward from it,but that is,as someone pointed out ,the pitfalls of freeware.I know,I have been where u are now but had to take it philosophically.

I would ask you all to take some time to think it all over and then please return to what you do so well and provide pleasure and inspiration again for the well meaning and good natured members of this community,who are the majority here after all.

And remember; I'm a Cop! If necessary I'll get a warrant,boot in your door and baton you back onto your Pc,s and make you skin...er...Mofo's! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

I believe thats how you Yanks put it?

Come on Guys think it over? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

P.s: I'm 43 today so probably old enough to be your Dad so don't make me come in there!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Firebird350HO
07-07-2005, 04:39 PM
Well said.

But...er, that "Mofos" thing...umm, stay away from the bad, B-grade movies. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

WarWolfe_1
07-07-2005, 05:14 PM
Its Homie

As in "Whats Crackin Homie"

"and make you skin Homie!"

Jutocsa
07-07-2005, 05:31 PM
Please - and I think i can say this in the name of Robo and TonyT too - dont post anything from now on about these issues. Finally it has been calmed down, as Tony said in one of the numerous threads about this - we brought enough shame on ourselves so just let this die.

Ps: And have a happy birthsday http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jarink
07-07-2005, 07:47 PM
Don't forget to ask the punks if they feel lucky today.

Well, do ya, punk?

http://www.kino.de/pix/newspics/124448_5.jpg

adlabs6
07-07-2005, 11:32 PM
Happy Birthday!

vpmedia
07-08-2005, 12:40 AM
yes, a very happy birthday mate!

Robo.
07-08-2005, 01:07 AM
Happy Birthday!!

(who's that guy? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

KRISTORF
07-08-2005, 01:11 AM
Bo_Nidle,
Once you nick them bring them to the high security prison I work in, soon sort it out
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Serval_1JaVA
07-08-2005, 03:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bo_Nidle:

I have read about the allegations,complaints and general alleged underhandedness and would agree that some of it appears to be well founded .

P.s: I'm 43 today so probably old enough to be your Dad so don't make me come in there!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please, to all. Understand that the main reason for closing SH has NOTHING to do with the discussion over credits.
Though the problems are somewhat similar, it is caused by someone who is NOT from the IL-2 skinning community, and sadly more serioous. It is simply getting me into money problems and putting my family under pressure.
As before I ask you to understand that I cannot put my family under pressure and/or financial problems just to keep a website alive. At this moment I have to let the 'bad guys' win.

To gewt into the credits discussion briefly: If you read my posts: I do hope that people give credits. I even think they should. But I also realise that putting templates on-line and demanding credits is madness. If I would have problems with people not giving credits, then I would NOT put templates on-line. As simple as that. But again for everyone: I do encourage everyone to give credits.

If I had a choice I would not close SH, but for now there is no other way. And I hope to start a new site one day that will be worthy to replace SH.

And eh... They youngest (I thought UK with a 14 y.o. mom) dad I know of was 12. I don't think 7 is possible (yet).... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Bo_Nidle
07-08-2005, 03:47 PM
To jutocsa ; I wasn't trying to rake everything up rather just to put forward what is refered to by the media as a "last minute plea" on behalf of all of us that know and respect the work of the skinners involved.

All in all very sad but thats life.

By the way I respect your work too so I'm pleased to see you are still aboard.

To Serval.!java; 7 eh? Don't relax too much! I was a bit of a lad at 7 .... mind you I had to slow down a bit after 6 !

Taylortony
07-08-2005, 04:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">P.s: I'm 43 today so probably old enough to be your Dad so don't make me come in there!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Pah!!!, a boy in a mans world http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif beat ya by 2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jutocsa
07-08-2005, 04:56 PM
@Bo_Nidle: Nice to hear http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I was always around, although recently doing more background work for il-2 (modelling) and less skinning. But well...old habits die hard http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

chris455
07-08-2005, 10:38 PM
We love you Bo-
Happy B-day M8!