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general_kalle
02-23-2006, 03:19 PM
here are some questions!

do all planes have Chock

can anyone give me a list of those planes that have hooks?

can u make for example a thunderbold or a P40 to take off from carrier???

general_kalle
02-23-2006, 03:19 PM
here are some questions!

do all planes have Chock

can anyone give me a list of those planes that have hooks?

can u make for example a thunderbold or a P40 to take off from carrier???

Chuck_Older
02-23-2006, 03:26 PM
Any aircraft that is taking off from a "ship", even test runways, have chocks applied as far as I know. The chock isn't part of the plane, it's a wedge that makes sure the wheels do not move. It's the same idea as a doorstop

Historically, P-47s did take off from (but did not land on) aircraft carriers. heck, B-25s did it too

P-40s can be made to take off from a carrier, at least they used to

Generally speaking, all naval aircraft have hooks; as naval aircraft are designed (or intended at least) to operate from carriers

There are exceptions, such as certain models of the Zero

MAILMAN------
03-01-2006, 03:54 PM
I have seen pictures of P-40's launching from a carrier, but only to its new island airfields.

bird_brain
03-01-2006, 04:05 PM
P-40s were also launched from carriers in the Med. The 57th fighter group launched P-40Fs off the USS Ranger and flew to Israel to assist the British Desert Air Force fighting against Rommel & JG27 in North Africa. (Try my El Alamein campaign to fly these missions)

USAAF P-40s were also launched off a CVE without catapults and flown to airfields outside Casablanca during Operation Torch. They were subsequently used against Rommel's troops at Tunis. I can post this mission for you if you want to fly it as well. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

http://jyarbrough.homestead.com/P40_1.jpg

Interestingly enough, they dip down below deck level and climb back up just as was reported in the stories I have read about their carrier launch. None of the pilots had ever flown off acarrier before and they were a little nervous. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

http://jyarbrough.homestead.com/P40_2.jpg

Oh yeah, all the planes I have flown seem to have chocks when launching from a carrier or a practice runway (under ships), but I have not tested "all" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Breeze147
03-02-2006, 07:32 AM
Heh, I was just about to post that you should try Bird_Brain's El Alamein American Campaign when I scrolled down and saw his post.

I took of from the carrier with hardly any problem at all.

A Plug - Try this campaign. It has GB, US and DE campaigns rolled into one. I found it very immersive. I finished the GB and US and I'm on the DE now.

Taking off in the Spitfire from the GB island base at dusk was just too cool.

In the US section, I think I could have done a lot better in the P-40, I just flew it poorly, only 5 air kills and 3 ground kills. I just couldn't figure out how to level bomb with a 1000 pounder from altitude and those Eyetye planes flew circles around me. Just poor tactics on my part.

In one mission, I chased one of the Italians all over the sky and could not get any solid hits. I finally ran out ammo and headed for home. I thought the Eyetye would head for home as well. He did not. He came back around and got on me and turned the tables. He flamed me and I was fortunate enough that I was close enough to my lines that I crash landed right next to the town of El Alamein.

B_B sets up a lot of the dogfights near enemy air fields, so you have an added dimension of dodging AAA while also trying to low level dogfight. Even in one mission where you have sitting duck JU-52's to shoot at, the AAA blew me to smithereens.

He also gets a kick out of making diabolical use of dogfighting in and out of clouds.

I just started the DE part, where you are ferrying BF-109's from Italy. The scenery at the start is spectacular! Where does that map come from? I was starting to get a little antsy about finding the base in the desert. I flew over that thing about 5 times looking for the runway. Everyone else crash landed in the desert. What the hell is going on here? Finally it dawned on me. There is no runway, you put it down on the desert. I almost made it, too. Just at the end, I tipped and broke the prop.

All in all, I highly recommend this campaign. I also flew "The Blue". Dogfighting in a Gladiator and lots of other surprises.

I am looking forward to Bird_Brain's other campaigns and definitely his WIP should be a thriller.

bird_brain
03-02-2006, 07:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Breeze147:
I just started the DE part, where you are ferrying BF-109's from Italy. The scenery at the start is spectacular! Where does that map come from? I was starting to get a little antsy about finding the base in the desert. I flew over that thing about 5 times looking for the runway. Everyone else crash landed in the desert. What the hell is going on here? Finally it dawned on me. There is no runway, you put it down on the desert. I almost made it, too. Just at the end, I tipped and broke the prop. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks for the great comments... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

I never tried to level bomb with the P40, I just got used to hearing "What the He11, follow your leader!" as I dive bombed the enemy artillery. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I need to rewrite that mission and put the test runway #4 on that airfield. Then all the friendlies could actually land. I wrote it before there were any test runways and I just improvised. You will notice in the brief in the next mission I mention how almost the whole flight ran out of gas just before they found the airfield. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

If you stall the 109 in on the strip, you can usually stop before you flip over. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

I found that I had a hard time against the 109s in the P40 since they always seemed to be alot faster. Then I had a hard time in the 109 because the P40s could outmaneuver me. It is actually a fairly even fight from either side, you just have to fly the planes' strong points.

If you can survive the 1st mission in the British campaign, it gets easier. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I have to admit I was being a little sadistic when I did that campaign because I was impatiently waiting for Pacific Fighters to be released. I added the 1st US mission with the carrier takeoff and then posted the campaign. Keep in mind I listed it as being "hard". That means you have a 50/50 chance of surviving each mission. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Breeze147
03-03-2006, 08:16 AM
I think I am going to do a User Review after I finish every community built campaign from now on. It will provide good feed back on the fun and the difficult parts of the campaigns. You guys do a lot of hard work and deserve to know what we, the users, think.