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Redbanana27
06-30-2011, 03:48 PM
Assassinate: 21 kills, 21 incognito.

Win!

Redbanana27
06-30-2011, 03:48 PM
Assassinate: 21 kills, 21 incognito.

Win!

MonsterJunkese
06-30-2011, 03:52 PM
Congratulations!!!!

MrKnox122
06-30-2011, 03:52 PM
I bet you ran to your enemy and just lock to them and kill them. The way you get Incognito is when you lock on to a person and automatic become incognito. I give you nice job but Assassinate Incognito is okay WANTED 21 kills with 21 Incognito that beast I mean it to 10 incognito in WANTED that pretty high.

MrJLBoyyy
06-30-2011, 04:05 PM
Although I congratulate you, I somewhat have to agree with KrisianNox. Maybe not the whole match, but using some kind of way to ensure incognitos. That's just me being a pessimist, though.

So pics or it didn't happen, and I apoligize if it makes me sound like a jerk.

SILENT FTW.

Stowdace
06-30-2011, 04:13 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrKnox122:
I bet you ran to your enemy and just lock to them and kill them. The way you get Incognito is when you lock on to a person and automatic become incognito.[QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure this is one of the reasons for the new reverse detection meter in Revelations if it's in Assassinate or if it stays at all.

Redbanana27
06-30-2011, 04:18 PM
I dont run when im in view of them or i look obvious i normally hang around in a walki g crowd using firecrackers or poison.

The best thing i did on that game was someone stunned someone else, i poisoned him, he ran away. I killed the stunned guy and then a doctor came round the corner and i killed him.

Either that or i poisoned a lriest and a doctor ran at him and jumped at him as he died so he did the animation but stopped halfway through as i killed him so i just stabbed him.

It was lucky i got that many kills but out of the 100 games of assassinate i have played ive lost maximum 7.

WoollyAndy
06-30-2011, 04:18 PM
The reverse detection meter is totally rubbish. I wish they kept it the same as ACB. Assassinate is gone be like an advanced version of wanted now, cuz running upto your target, locking at the last second and stabbing him in the head for just 150pts is, pointless. I guess I'm just gonna stick to manhunt.

Redbanana27
06-30-2011, 04:29 PM
I like assassinate because... You play stealthy you win. It also shows more than wanted of who is a better player... In wanted, if your doing good, they send three on you to slow you down. In assassinate... If you do good, you ARE good.

MonsterJunkese
06-30-2011, 04:31 PM
Disagree you can just run around and smokebomb people and lock on. Thats what alot of people do now. Besides you just got lucky playing with noobs. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ABXantos
06-30-2011, 04:35 PM
Rule #(IDK) of the Internet

Pictures or it didn't happen.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stowdace:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MrKnox122:
I bet you ran to your enemy and just lock to them and kill them. The way you get Incognito is when you lock on to a person and automatic become incognito. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm pretty sure this is one of the reasons for the new reverse detection meter in Revelations if it's in Assassinate or if it stays at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah Assassinate is just a broken mode Wanted.

Redbanana27
06-30-2011, 04:36 PM
As i said i use firecrackers and poison i dont use smoke bombs because they are for the noobs. And i only run if noone is in site.

And i Played a game that had ok levels... It was a good mix.

And the 100 max 7 losses when im normally always playing agsinst level 40-50.

Redbanana27
06-30-2011, 04:38 PM
I took a picture on my iphone... I am writing this on an iphone... If you can tell me how to put a picture up i will... If you give me email i will email it to you.

daddychinn
06-30-2011, 04:44 PM
I'm writing this on my iPhone. So just upload to photobucket and post the URL.

Redbanana27
06-30-2011, 04:55 PM
I signed upnto it... Hiwever how do i upload the photo... The first thing i tried was tonsend an email with it into the email that it had as a link.

Redbanana27
06-30-2011, 04:59 PM
http://m1239.photobucket.com/a...Fd6U1gA195CG2RGUM%3D (http://m1239.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/RedneckBanana/photo.jpg.html?pbauth=1_uLEBonVPfaLdh1h3YMYz2coei2 C7M%2FXijAg%2FycZB9tghRGWwF600AkNfElaccYDPuJ%2Bic9 3%2BjLzAlvLgd8Ksdnq%2FOPWkzscwwZS27Yb2BoPMsQyjgv5J 1XQYxjy%2Bize3PX9aJU43fV42CQWFteX6l2YgAF%2Fd6U1gA1 95CG2RGUM%3D)

Quality is pretty bad looking at it but you can makr out he numbers if you look hard enough

MrKnox122
06-30-2011, 05:14 PM
Nope still

obliviondoll
06-30-2011, 08:21 PM
Get over 4000 points in Wanted while earning Incognito on every kill and I'll be impressed.

Until then... Wow. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Also, I'm surprised I'm the first to ask: No stuns? Or just didn't manage to kill the people you stunned? Or abused glitches to get away with Incognito on your stunned target?

StarScream391
06-30-2011, 08:23 PM
<STRIKE>SUPER</STRIKE> Cool story bro.

lx_Reafer_xl
06-30-2011, 09:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by obliviondoll:
Also, I'm surprised I'm the first to ask: No stuns? Or just didn't manage to kill the people you stunned? Or abused glitches to get away with Incognito on your stunned target? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You'll almost never get stuns when using an FC/poison profile set in Assassinate.
And if you do, chances are it's because the guy just poisoned you.

obliviondoll
06-30-2011, 09:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by lx_Reafer_xl:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by obliviondoll:
Also, I'm surprised I'm the first to ask: No stuns? Or just didn't manage to kill the people you stunned? Or abused glitches to get away with Incognito on your stunned target? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You'll almost never get stuns when using an FC/poison profile set in Assassinate.
And if you do, chances are it's because the guy just poisoned you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, but you'll almost never get all Incognito kills using that profile set. There's always SOMEONE who manages to pop a lock through your FC and get you down to Discreet. Or, as happens to me just as often as that, pop a lock through your FC and get you as a target and kill you. And I've had it happen where a guy dropped Smoke as I was dropping FC, turned around and stunned his OTHER pursuer, then turned and killed me even though I'd locked on before the stun. (See why I don't play Assassinate?)

lx_Reafer_xl
06-30-2011, 10:14 PM
True.
Maybe this guy just played in a lobby with newer players.

PryingTuna85649
06-30-2011, 11:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Redbanana27:
As i said i use firecrackers and poison i dont use smoke bombs because they are for the noobs. And i only run if noone is in site.

And i Played a game that had ok levels... It was a good mix.

And the 100 max 7 losses when im normally always playing agsinst level 40-50. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Smoke bomb isn't for noobs. People make and have made that comment about firecrackers much more frequently than smoke bomb. SB doesn't just give you your target...you have to figure it out.

And with a prior comment...I really don't think people play stealthy in Assassinate. You can run in plain sight of another person, being completely obvious, and easily get an incognito kill. Incognito implies you don't know someone is there...and if you do, you don't know who you are. Assassinate to me is really about who can get the lock on fastest (which lag also gives some people an edge at the expense of others). Reactions do have to be quick and the people at the top are there for a reason (ie, I'm not saying I'm ranked in the top 500 instead of the top 10 just because of lag skewing the lock system). But there are a lot of more offensive players that just know the exact time to lock on to get an incognito while still running around. That's not fun to me. And because it has so much to do with manipulating the lock system (instead of really regarding whether or not it's possible that your target sees you), have a reverse detection meter makes 100% sense to me. I suck at the lock system still, so I can't even begin to talk about how many times I'll have spotted another person because they are being obvious with running in Assassinate, but I can't lock onto them because of NPC's getting in the way or camera flipping, etc. It really doesn't matter if another person is skilled enough to know/literally sees you or not. If you are running in front of another person (ie, compass lit up), it's safe to assume they have already picked you out. That's what I think, at least. And someone shouldn't be awarded full points for that. It's rewarding undesirable behavior.

CarnivalBox
06-30-2011, 11:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PryingTuna85649:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Redbanana27:
As i said i use firecrackers and poison i dont use smoke bombs because they are for the noobs. And i only run if noone is in site.

And i Played a game that had ok levels... It was a good mix.

And the 100 max 7 losses when im normally always playing agsinst level 40-50. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<STRIKE>Smoke bomb isn't for noobs. People make and have made that comment about firecrackers much more frequently than smoke bomb. SB doesn't just give you your target...you have to figure it out. And with a prior comment...I really don't think people play stealthy in Assassinate. You can run in plain sight of another person, being completely obvious, and easily get an incognito kill. Incognito implies you don't know someone is there...and if you do, you don't know who you are. Assassinate to me is really about who can get the lock on fastest (which lag also gives some people an edge at the expense of others). Reactions do have to be quick and the people at the top are there for a reason (ie, I'm not saying I'm ranked in the top 500 instead of the top 10 just because of lag skewing the lock system). But there are a lot of more offensive players that just know the exact time to lock on to get an incognito while still running around. That's not fun to me. And because it has so much to do with manipulating the lock system (instead of really regarding whether or not it's possible that your target sees you), have a reverse detection meter makes 100% sense to me. I suck at the lock system still, so I can't even begin to talk about how many times I'll have spotted another person because they are being obvious with running in Assassinate, but I can't lock onto them because of NPC's getting in the way or camera flipping, etc. It really doesn't matter if another person is skilled enough to know/literally sees you or not. If you are running in front of another person (ie, compass lit up), it's safe to assume they have already picked you out. That's what I think, at least. And someone shouldn't be awarded full points for that. It's rewarding undesirable behavior.</STRIKE> assassinate is awesome </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

there, fixed it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

persiateddy95
07-01-2011, 03:10 AM
Assassinate or Wanted, I play both the same way.

Incognito is overrated.

EscoBlades
07-01-2011, 03:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CarnivalBox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PryingTuna85649:
assassinate is awesome </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

there, fixed it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I beg to differ.

Redbanana27
07-01-2011, 05:16 AM
As for playing stealthily... It shows that it is better, i dont run around on rooftops unless its escort. Playing stealthily is better.

As for no stuns in that game i must of died after i killed someone.

Smoke bombs arent nooby... Hahahaha. If you flash red on assassinate 50% of the time the guy will smoke bomb and ealk around sPammi g B to stun his guy.

Did someone say get 4000 points on wanted and get all incognito??? That doesnt sound much of a challenge really.... Maybe if it was 8000

obliviondoll
07-01-2011, 06:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CarnivalBox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PryingTuna85649:
assassinate can be fun on the rare occasions where it actually works properly </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
there, fixed it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
There, fixed it properly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Also:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Redbanana27:
Did someone say get 4000 points on wanted and get all incognito??? That doesnt sound much of a challenge really.... Maybe if it was 8000 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not saying it's horribly difficult, but it's a fairer test of skill than 21 Incognito kills in Assassinate.

Redbanana27
07-01-2011, 06:33 AM
I really want to know the type of people that you play in assassinate... Whenever i play there might be one or two guys running about, they are also the same people that come out on bottom.

PryingTuna85649
07-01-2011, 07:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Redbanana27:
I really want to know the type of people that you play in assassinate... Whenever i play there might be one or two guys running about, they are also the same people that come out on bottom. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The last 2 few days I've played, I've ended up in lobbies with all Grandmasters, a few of which were in the top 10. I saw running non-stop. Run to a target, get to LoS, then either run full on, locking at last second and getting an incog kill for high points (when they know who the non-NPC is) or slow down a little and check things out. I got so many kills just from seeing someone slowing down from running (that little jog thing) around a corner.

I know the good players use things like that to pull people out of their blend groups in order to trap them...and that a lot of the REALLY good players don't do this frequently, but I see it all the time in videos. I'll admit I've done it also (though I'm not as good with the lock system so I don't get it off as well all the time), and since that's the way the current game mode is (and because that's something I think its already too much a part of this mode in ACB for them to fix...ie, it would be changing the rules of the game...though the change in ACR would make sense), go ahead and do it. But I've had so many stand-offs/deaths just because someone obviously comes around a corner (even if they are just walking...I don't think someone walking alone looking different is something that needs fixed, but I do still think that's incog) and I can't lock on them either from an NPC getting in the way or the lock system just being glitchy. 5 seconds later, they figure out who I am, lock onto me right as I FINALLY am able to get the lock, I'm dead because they decided to run since they're only getting Discreet anyway and SB won't counter running anymore (and Charge won't either at certain distances).

I'm not saying it's a horrible mode, but it's more offensive than people are making it out to be.

PryingTuna85649
07-01-2011, 10:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by EscoBlades:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CarnivalBox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PryingTuna85649:
assassinate is awesome </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

there, fixed it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I beg to differ. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree with this and with what obliviondoll said. Ultimately, certain modes will work better with certain people's playing skills. I'm certainly better at Wanted (and enjoy it more), but I've been determined to learn how to play Assassinate and have started to enjoy it a little bit more as I've understood it a bit better. And different people have different tastes. Each mode requires different skill sets and have their own difficulties. I personally think Wanted is more of a challenge in terms of getting specific kinds of points and winning while dealing with a minimum of 3 Pursuers on you while in Podium (primarily first). Assassinate is a mode I'm horrible at, though, and presents its own challenges (which I'm sure I'd be able to better analyze if I *did* have a better grasp on the game mode).

But for me personally (and this really is just my opinion), Assassinate feels much more like playing a game of Halo multiplayer. It's definitely more stealthy than Halo, but it's a fast paced game mode and I imagine that people who are good at Assassinate probably have potential at a multiplayer game like Halo (the reason for this is having quick reactions). But that is 100% my opinion and I'm sure there are tons of people who would admit the opposite, so don't get upset or anything. I personally am horrible at Halo multiplayer, even though I enjoy it.

ANTRON77
07-01-2011, 10:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Redbanana27:
I really want to know the type of people that you play in assassinate... Whenever i play there might be one or two guys running about, they are also the same people that come out on bottom. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All the top players i've played in assassinate never play stealthy at all. It's a roof camping, run infested, mayem filled madness. Now when I see people blending and play stealthy they finish last. You must be playing player match because ranked i see this type of gameplay everytime I get a match.

PryingTuna85649
07-01-2011, 01:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ANTRON77:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Redbanana27:
I really want to know the type of people that you play in assassinate... Whenever i play there might be one or two guys running about, they are also the same people that come out on bottom. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All the top players i've played in assassinate never play stealthy at all. It's a roof camping, run infested, mayem filled madness. Now when I see people blending and play stealthy they finish last. You must be playing player match because ranked i see this type of gameplay everytime I get a match. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ditto. I wouldn't say all of the top players ALWAYS run/roof for the entire match, but they definitely do it the majority of the map. They've mastered manipulating the animus in order to be as aggressive as possible within the limits of...well, basically the lock system. It really seems like the lock system is the only true system/game mode constraint to aggressive play style in Assassinate.

Of course you have to figure out the situations other people are in and size them up as players (will they see me in "x" situation if I run, fast-walk, or do I have to approach this type/level of player stealthily), but there aren't a lot of situational limits other than this. If a player is running at you, then defensive abilities (smoke, mute, charge, etc) don't work half the time. So the choice is try to lock them before they get to you, or decide whether to lock onto them so their kill isn't worth as many points or attempt to use an ability and hope it works. A lot of times if I use an ability, they'll end up running straight through it. And when a player turns a corner, we lock at the same, and they get the contract, they definitely start running straight toward me in order to get the kill. And in that situation, NONE of my abilities EVER work. Well, rarely.

And if I blend into groups, I'm greatly disadvantaged. I almost always get killed while blending and people rarely come my way. It seems like blended groups are avoided because people who have a harder time picking out non-NPCs know they'll get killed and people who CAN pick them out win because of the above situations.

loomer979
07-02-2011, 12:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by obliviondoll:
Get over 4000 points in Wanted while earning Incognito on every kill and I'll be impressed.

Until then... Wow. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not that I think it's really that impressive but thought it might be fun for this thread anyway... I managed to find an old old (late january) game in my archives with 7 incognito only kills. This is back when I cared waaayyy more about preserving incognito status. I'm not sure that this play style would hold up very well in lobbies today (at least in ranked), which is a shame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pge10p4khvY

P.S. wanted &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; assassinate

Redbanana27
07-02-2011, 09:06 PM
I have always cared abut incognito... I believe that more points per kill is better than a higher score... Thats what i normally loom for in games. I am just out to increase my average point per kill... Its somethi g lime 515 at the moment.

obliviondoll
07-03-2011, 12:37 AM
Nice video, loomer.

Good to see that someone else has managed it.

And I'm not saying it's a huge challenge, like I said. It's still more impressive than 21 Incognito kills in Assassinate.

And I've actually found that focusing on Incognito (been doing it a little recently), with the occasional Silent and MAYBE a single Discreet, is actually a great way to win a match. Not often with a particularly high score, but it DOES get the victory more often than not.

EDIT: Also quite enjoy the times I've managed to get "hidden all the way" without using Disguise - that's a better test than the Incognito one, imo.