Fun with ChainSwing

[Obadja]

I've been playing around with the "chain entity", and found alot of really cool uses.
When I made this I didn't have the manual, and I had only used Sandbox(tm) for a couple of hours.


This is a Buggy hanging under a chopper. Fun to fly over enemies, and shoot down on them.
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy01.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy02.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy03.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy04.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy05.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy06.jpg

I connected the chain to a floating object behind the boat, this was the original idea, witch i saw in the Singleplayer Ver of Far Cry.

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/boat_bomb01.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/boat_bomb02.jpg

Dragging a fising boat seemed like a good idea http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif probably fun in Multiplayer.

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/boat_bigger03.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/boat_bigger02.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/boat_bigger01.jpg

And now over to the masterpiece, the ropebridge, and take in consideration all of theese images are just in the testing fase. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/ropebridge01.jpg

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/ropebridge02.jpg

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/ropebridge03.jpg

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/ropebridge04.jpg

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/ropebridge05.jpg

Thats all for now, I just got the manual five minutes ago, so now I have to start reading http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Obadja]

I've been playing around with the "chain entity", and found alot of really cool uses.
When I made this I didn't have the manual, and I had only used Sandbox(tm) for a couple of hours.


This is a Buggy hanging under a chopper. Fun to fly over enemies, and shoot down on them.
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy01.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy02.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy03.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy04.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy05.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/heli_buggy06.jpg

I connected the chain to a floating object behind the boat, this was the original idea, witch i saw in the Singleplayer Ver of Far Cry.

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/boat_bomb01.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/boat_bomb02.jpg

Dragging a fising boat seemed like a good idea http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif probably fun in Multiplayer.

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/boat_bigger03.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/boat_bigger02.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/boat_bigger01.jpg

And now over to the masterpiece, the ropebridge, and take in consideration all of theese images are just in the testing fase. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/ropebridge01.jpg

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/ropebridge02.jpg

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/ropebridge03.jpg

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/ropebridge04.jpg

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/ropebridge05.jpg

Thats all for now, I just got the manual five minutes ago, so now I have to start reading http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[GazzaBinks]

Im thinking grapple gun or the thing they use to hunt whales.

[BlunderTech]

Awesome, I really like how you are experimenting with the game. Keep up the good work!

[antistar_]

Wow. That's some cool stuff ;D.

aka Tim Partlett

[hillemania]

Hey, nice experimentation. I have a question for you. I've been messing around with the chain object too and I can't figure out how to change the length of it. Also, in the rope bridge did you swap out the model of the chain with rope, or did you use a different entity. This is my first time using an editor and it sure is fun.

[Obadja]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by hillemania:
Hey, nice experimentation. I have a question for you. I've been messing around with the chain object too and I can't figure out how to change the length of it. Also, in the rope bridge did you swap out the model of the chain with rope, or did you use a different entity. This is my first time using an editor and it sure is fun.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Like I said, I haven't used Sandbox(tm) much, but I have found a few way to change the chains lenght and "shape".

Under the Entity Properties, click "Model", go to the \Objects\glm\shipwreck\stuff\ dir.
There you will find different types of rope and chain. Short chains, chains with hooks etc.

I'm looking for other ways to change the lenght, I'll post it here if i find it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[m7d7g7]

how do you actually attach the chain to an object?

[Nomexboy]

I was messing around with chains too; great fun!
If you really wanted to be sadistic, you could chain a dead merc behind a buggy and drag him through the dusty streets, ala Somalia. Except with a bad guy instead of a good guy.

Attaching chains is covered in the editor manual, but if you haven't read it yet, just look for the parameters "attach to" or "attach up" or something, then type in the name of the entitiy you want to attach it to. If the threshold is set to -1, you will be anchored to the floor and won't be able to move, and if you set it to 0, you can tow things around.

[hillemania]

Thanks for the info Obadja.
I'll keep looking for other options too, but I'll try out that method. Also, I've had some difficulty with attaching 2 chains together, do you simply use the chain instance names in the attachup and attachto fields of the links?

[lovegravy]

Yeah, how did you get a chain that LONG?!?

[Obadja]

hillemania & lovegravy

Lovegravy, your question is answered by hillemania, I attached two chains together.

I used the Long chain model, and attached those two (two long chains). I haven't found out how to attach two chains dirrectly together (I'll work some more on it today) But if u use an object as a link between the two chains you can make it as long as you want to (Look at the pic where the fishing boat is dragged, in the middle of the chain you see a bucket http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But I'll look into a better way to make it longer. There have to be a much better way. I'll read the manual today http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[This message was edited by Obadja on Thu March 25 2004 at 10:41 AM.]

[Obadja]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Obadja:
hillemania & lovegravy

Lovegravy, your question is answered by hillemania, I attached two chains together
I used the Long chain model, and attached those two (two long chains). I haven't found out how to attach two chains dirrectly together (I'll work some more on it today) But if u use an object as a link between the two chains you can make it as long as you want to (Look at the pic where the fishing boat is dragged, in the middle of the chain you see a bucket http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But I'll look into a better way to make it longer. There have to be a much better way. I'll read the manual today http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Obadja]

I thougt I was editing, stoopid of me, I pressed quoute in stead http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[This message was edited by Obadja on Thu March 25 2004 at 10:44 AM.]

[Obadja]

error made by me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[This message was edited by Obadja on Thu March 25 2004 at 12:34 PM.]

[Obadja]

yet another error.. sorry http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[This message was edited by Obadja on Thu March 25 2004 at 12:34 PM.]

[lovegravy]

Ahhhh, so you linked the two chains together by putting something between them...


Every time I tried to link two chains together I'd end up with one rigid section and one swinging section, I couldn't get the whole chain to move properly.

[RAIN_MARK]

Awesome ideas Obadja, you looking for a mod to work on?

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[hillemania]

Obadja,
That's funny about the bucket, I didn't notice it. I too used that method earlier but unfortunately used an anchor as my connector and it looked pretty goofy as it was too large. In one of the first levels of the game I did notice that there are some poles with power lines going out on a dock. They were different than chains though as they seemed to be made of several longer segments instead of the small links like the chain entity. They didn't look quite as smooth as a chain after I shot them apart, but I'm sure it's more CPU friendly, and I wonder if it allows longer lengths. Anybody else notice them?

[Obadja]

RAIN_MARK: Maby http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hillemania:
Yeah, I noticed them to, can't remember where they where thoug, I blew down the poles, was a nice effect, all connected together, floating on water.

[This message was edited by Obadja on Thu March 25 2004 at 02:03 PM.]

[Obadja]

More fun with ChainSwing.

Well, this time i tried to make a wreckingball, just to see if it was possible...
It was http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I have to work on it some more, but first I have some reading to do http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif appx 160 Sandbox manual pages http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I linked some planks to a mounted machine gun (just to be able to move it), a chain and a "wreckingball" on the end voila.
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/wreckingball01.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/wreckingball02.jpg

[hillemania]

supurb idea with the gun and planks!!

[Magnetmannen]

ok, ill skin this and make it awailable for download as soon as i get the proper plugins:
http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~bf2029/bf2029forum/files/crane2_205.jpg

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/~bf2029/bf2029forum/files/under20corsize.jpg

[Obadja]

Magnetmannen:
I was thinking the same thing...
I'm reading the manual now, to learn to create own entities, etc.

I also have some modelling experience (3dsmax)

[Jetenginedr]

amazing.....

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[MrPibbo]

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[suuune]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nomexboy:
I was messing around with chains too; great fun!
If you really wanted to be sadistic, you could chain a dead merc behind a buggy and drag him through the dusty streets, ala Somalia. Except with a bad guy instead of a good guy.

Attaching chains is covered in the editor manual, but if you haven't read it yet, just look for the parameters "attach to" or "attach up" or something, then type in the name of the entitiy you want to attach it to. If the threshold is set to -1, you will be anchored to the floor and won't be able to move, and if you set it to 0, you can tow things around.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So!?Who were the bad guys in somalia?

[RAIN_MARK]

Obadja : Take a look at my site ( http://www.blood-feud.com and email me at rain-mark@twmi.rr.com if you are interested. I can guarantee challenge and a lot of creative outlet on this mod.

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[zyrohex2240]

Anyone know shortcut keys for the editor? Like rotation, moving, etc etc?

[Obadja]

Ctrl + 3 = Move
Ctrl + 4 = Rotate
Ctrl + 5 = Scale

[fuzzbee]

Ok, I admit it. I'm a moron. Reading the manual about the chain-swing I can't get it even close to working. I been able to make a vertical chain that moves with the Jeep I have it associated with, but it stays vertical.

Could someone do a real basic walk through working with the chain swing? What properites to set ect. I know the AttachTo and copy name of object, but what is the AttachToUp and the AttachToPart/ AttachToPartUp values attached to it.

And say I can get it to work like the manual reads, how do you attach something to each end (even anchoring with a bucket). This is embarrassing...

Thanks. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Obadja]

Even more fun with ChainSwing

I saw Point-Of-Origins little drawing, and i wanted to figure out how to do that. Well, I made it but it need a lot of tweaking, the "bucket" moves in slow motion, and i need to figure out a better way to make longer chain.

http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/swingingelevator01.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/swingingelevator02.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/swingingelevator03.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/swingingelevator04.jpg
http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/swingingelevator05.jpg

[Obadja]

AttachToUp is the "pivot" end (where the xyz axis is)
AttachTo is the other end http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


I can't make a detailed description right now (I'm at work). But I can do it later.

[zibba]

I'll take a stab at writing a quick tutorial.

In your map, create the object you want the chain to be anchored to, for this example we'll use a buggy. Drag the buggy into your map and place it a little above the ground, and then name it in it's properties window "Buggy". Then create the object you want to be attatched to the other end of the chain, in this case we'll create a "dead body" entity (I think it's under the "others" subdirectory). Name the dead body "Body", and place it near the buggy, at about the same height (make sure they are a little off the ground). Now create a "Chainswing" entity (it's in the same subdirectory as the dead body entity), place it in between the buggy and the body at the same height as the buggy. Move the chain's anchor point (the end of the chain that has the xyz axis visible) so that it intersects with the back end of the buggy. This is how the game determines where to attach the chain on the buggy. Now rotate the chain on it's X axis so it is sticking straight out from the buggy. Now move the body object so it is intersecting with the end of the chain, the end sticking out from the buggy. Click on the chainswing entity and in it's properties write "Body" in the Attachto field, and "Buggy" in the AttachUpTo field. Now press Ctrl-G to test it out. That should be it. Sorry if this isn't a great tutorial, I have never written one before and don't have the editor open in front of me, so this is all from memory.

-Zibba

[Nomexboy]

And voila, you have a dead body to drag behind the buggy!

I was messing around with a giant swing last night too, but instead of a bucket, I put an inflatable raft. The chain is right in the middle of the raft so that it doesn't tip over and cause you to fall off.

Even so, when I shoot the chain to release the raft it falls faster than I do, we seperate, and I end up getting hurt from it. Ideally, I want to be able to sit in the raft, shoot the chain, and hang on for dear life as I hit the water 200' below.

[Obadja]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nomexboy:
And voila, you have a dead body to drag behind the buggy!

I was messing around with a giant swing last night too, but instead of a bucket, I put an inflatable raft. The chain is right in the middle of the raft so that it doesn't tip over and cause you to fall off.

Even so, when I shoot the chain to release the raft it falls faster than I do, we seperate, and I end up getting hurt from it. Ideally, I want to be able to sit in the raft, shoot the chain, and hang on for dear life as I hit the water 200' below.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ROFL http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Nomexboy]

Hey! I just now thought of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, where Indy et al jump out of a plane with a raft and land on a snowy mountain! What a rush!

[Biscuits970]

With all this talk about bodies and chains, someone could make a great horror mod for this game. Think about it, you walk into a room, blood spattered on all the walls, you look up and see 5 or more dead bodies swinging from chains. That would be cool.

P.S. It would aslo be cool to see the chain as a weapon too, with the physics an all.

[Blayd85]

yeah, a chain weapon would be pretty sweet. I haven't started messing around with the modding yet but I was curious about a few things. I was curious if you can anchor more than one chain to a single object. also, can you attach AI controlled enemies to chains, instead of dead bodies?

[eu4ria]

You cant attach any living entity to a chain. Page 26 of the docs, nect to the barrel on a chain pic http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Nomexboy]

It says you can't attach it to living things such as soldiers or animals.

Which is really to bad, I want to be able to drag around a screaming, writhing, merc behind my boat.

[Biscuits970]

Yeah, it would be fun to have a slave with you, use him as a shield when things get hard, make him do tasks for you while you sit there and enjoy yourself. That would be great

[vannostrom1974]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nomexboy:
It says you can't attach it to living things such as soldiers or animals.

Which is really to bad, I want to be able to drag around a screaming, writhing, merc behind my boat.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Put him in a cage or something thats attached.

[Shask343]

or maybe make it a dead ragdoll one..might not scream but it would be funny to watch him swing around..lol

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[Boris_Ristov]

Damn, this looks like alot of fun. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Maybe a stupid question, but does the 180-page manual explain how to make stuff with chains?

[R4PM0NK3Y]

Please PLEASE tell us how you made that rope bridge! In my map, I have two sniper towers. I want a bridge between the two, but I want it so you can shoot the bridge down. How would I go about this? Thanks for your help!

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[zibba]

I have a question about this Chainswing thing that is not covered in the manual as far as I can tell (I haven't read it end to end, but I ran a search on the pdf and couldn't find any info on this). Has anyone figured out how to use the "num_ropes" and "rope_name" features? As I understand it, these potentially allow you to simply attach a second chainswing to the first one without adding an intermediate object attached between them. But everything I try to do to get this to work ends in failure. When I run the game the chain looks twice as long but is no longer attached to anything. Any one get this to work?

-Zibba

[G33B]

Heres a little something i did with the chain thing. I got a bunch of grunts to drive vehicles around a track pulling different things with them. Yo can see me in the inflatable getting towed around by the buggy. I funny to watch the grunts drive around and go over jumps. I could play with this editor forever...

Here are some images:


http://home.comcast.net/~m.gibeau/races1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~m.gibeau/races2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~m.gibeau/races3.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~m.gibeau/races4.jpg

[Echarin]

An amazing idea just popped up in my mind. First a question:

Is it possible to add physics to rocks and such? And then attach a chain to that?

Now the idea:

Attach a chain to a boat and the other end to a really heavy rock. Then drag the rock out to sea. Would the boat go under from the weight of the rock?


I can't wait to get this game in my hands. So much I want to do with the editor!

[G33B]

You can add physics to any simple entity, such as a rock. If you look at my pictures youll see a tower getting draged along by a buggy. This was a simple entity that i gave physics to (i didn't make it very heavy). I'm sure that if you gave a rock physics and made it very heavy, it would pull a boat under. I've attached rocks to buggies and droped em off cliffs to watch the buggy get pulled off and over the cliff. The posibilities are endless.

[Cycrac]

"This forum does not allow messages to be deleted."
Long live double posts!

[Cycrac]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Echarin:
Attach a chain to a boat and the other end to a really heavy rock. Then drag the rock out to sea. Would the boat go under from the weight of the rock?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I did that a few days ago.. It was verry funny to drive a boat with a 7 ton rock pulling you underwater http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Why I did this in the first place was because I could get the fishing boat and yacht stay balanced... Btw, does anyone know if you're able to change the centre of mass of an object ?

[G33B]

yeah it would be nice to change the center of mass for that tower. It likes to stay balenced upward. It is funny to watch a tower get pulled around the track however.

[eu4ria]

I have made a chainlink chain bridge. However the gaps between the 'boards' are always too far apary. I have tried the various short models for rope and chain but all the same result.

http://www.nelson-homes.com/img/farcry1.jpg

Here is how it looks when it is set up with physics turned on. Also the chains do funky things when shot, such as hanging from where the object should be instead of where it is. I presume I could fix this with a script that hid or destroyed it if it gets shot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Any thoughts ?

[n-v-me6]

anyone try attaching a hangglider to a humvee using a chain to see if the hanggliders stays up in the air like a kite?

[volcomskater]

I'm gonna try it out right now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Da_Mule]

I attach small boat to glider.. but it,s fall down =(

[n-v-me6]

damn... that sucks =(

[volcomskater]

I couldnt get it to work either. But if the AI was drving the boat and you were in the glider, it might work

[GreatTriscuit]

(Blah... host won't allow img linking... clicky clicky)

(You can't even click... have to copy/paste... )

okay... so I was inspired by Obadja's wrecking ball... and thought... why limit oneself to one spot? Everything is about mobility nowadays right? So started work... and got this far...

http://fire.prohosting.com/tr1zk1t/Load1.jpg
And decided to give turn on physics and ctrl-G to see if everything was working allright... and was shocked and amazed to realise I had come accross the ever elusive Presto Magiko Rubber Steel Chain!!!&lt;br&gt;
http://fire.prohosting.com/tr1zk1t/Load2.jpg

http://fire.prohosting.com/tr1zk1t/Load3.jpg

I have no idea why it's doing this... any ideas? It does this regardless of the weight or model of the load. I'm pretty much stumped. I've got the (shrunken) watch tower and ladder linked to the Hemmitt (individually, it won't let me try and link ladder-&gt;tower-&gt;Hemmitt, crashes), both are rigid bodies with low weights (somewhere &lt; 50).

Any ideas?

update: changing the ladder to "Ridgid body active=False" seemed to help... but one or more of the four loads will still tend to get "stuck" if I let them settle down, but running up and bumping them will get them to snap back into place and behave normally again...

wierd...

[This message was edited by GreatTriscuit on Sun March 28 2004 at 07:39 PM.]

[SS_ChessMess]

While we have yet to have anyone join the HydroRacers mod, one of the items we would investigate would be the possibility to pull skiers behind our high speed boats. I think there could be some fun with that kind of scenario. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


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[R4PM0NK3Y]

I am having a problem. Objects seem to float in the air. For example, I try to hang a tower from a chain in the air, but even with no chain it just floats. I am using an Entity, NOT a brush. What's wrong? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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[AmishSlayer]

I got a couple of Grunts to tow me in a paraglider. They're driving a hummer and the paraglider is attached by chain.

www.geocities.com/amishslayer/ (http://www.geocities.com/amishslayer/)

Don't mind the other two pics. I was showing my friend how to use the chain thingy.

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[inPhy]

Ive been having a good fiddle with the ropes too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ive come up with this:
http://www.flexibyte.com/bridge/

[R4PM0NK3Y]

inPhy, that is very nice! Could you make a quick tutorial on how to do something like that? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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[inPhy]

yeah, a couple of people have asked me that.
I'll make one as soon as i have some time http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Perhaps tomorrow sometime

[BsR_Camel]

I'v also tried the hangglider, but no luck. Had a glider on top of a tower with a longer chain attached to a pt boat down on the water.

As fo skiers, I've thought of ways to do it but haven't tried yet. possible you could attach a peice of dock to the chain and a boat and someone could stand on that. I'll try it out later.

http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Camel/FC_font_Camel_black_400x150.gif

[WakeFire]

I tried the 'paraglider on top of a tower' thing too. Even used 3 lengths of the longer chain object. Attached it to a buggy, setup a path for the buggy, and setup a proximity trigger to make the grunt get in and drive it around the path as soon as I get close to the glider. No dice, just drags the paraglider down to the ground every time. Seems to throw me off the glider too as soon as the buggy takes the slack out of the line.

Parasailing1 (http://www.wakefire.com/eric/farcry/pics/parasailing1.jpg)

[This message was edited by WakeFire on Mon March 29 2004 at 03:13 PM.]

[This message was edited by WakeFire on Mon March 29 2004 at 07:58 PM.]

[thenc17]

How do you attach multiple objects to 1 chain, for example if i want to attach one end of the chain to a buggy and the other to a dead body what do i do? name the buggy and dead body the same thing?

[BsR_Camel]

In the Chain's Properties in the Rollup bar you can attach it to things. Its will say "Attach to" and "Attach up to". Type in what you want to attach it to. Also you need to change the -1s to 0s

Example:
http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Camel/chain.jpg

http://img4.photobucket.com/albums/0703/Camel/FC_font_Camel_black_400x150.gif

[eggflip66]

itd be cool if someone could model and code an atat to walk in game, then get a snowspeeder in there with the chaingun physics and see if its possible to trip over the atat.

can anyone try this and post it in these forums please?

also nomex mentioned indianajones. id be cool if u could cut the bridge, then quickly press action to hold onto it as it falls, then climb back up. anyone wanna try this?

[eggflip66]

also im thinking fo starting a mod based on action movies. not just one movie, but many. im not sure i want to go into too much detail but it would include many things from movies or similiar. hopefully not to infringe on anyone, but have parts of the maps that can resemble bits out of movies like indiana jones, mix it up with a bit of starwars and predator, maybe jurassic park, the list is endless.

[bent_toe]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by G33B:
Heres a little something i did with the chain thing. I got a bunch of grunts to drive vehicles around a track pulling different things with them. Yo can see me in the inflatable getting towed around by the buggy. I funny to watch the grunts drive around and go over jumps. I could play with this editor forever...

Here are some images:


http://home.comcast.net/~m.gibeau/races1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~m.gibeau/races2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~m.gibeau/races3.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~m.gibeau/races4.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

haha..ur pictures looks so alive.
Its like all the "actors" for Farcry is having a day off from filming (i know) to goof around.
Second picture there..its like he is saying "hey jack,,u ready,cos im gonna stomp the pedal".
And last picture..looks like one of the "actors" is emptuing the zodiac on air...kinda like wrapping things up for the day because tomorrow is another day of filming the "movie" farcry.

lol..my imagination..

its like when they have bloopers in Toy story and Monsters inc.

http://img26.photobucket.com/albums/v78/hostaenbild/fcsig1.jpg

[UKFarCry]

if you have a heavy rock and chain keeping say a dinghy underwater, is the physics clever enough (i spose i should test it myself ratehr than ask lol but i thought id just ask anyway) to send the boat back up once its free from the rock by shooting the chain?

Idea for a mission I had

[Cycrac]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by UKFarCry:
if you have a heavy rock and chain keeping say a dinghy underwater, is the physics clever enough (i spose i should test it myself ratehr than ask lol but i thought id just ask anyway) to send the boat back up once its free from the rock by shooting the chain?

Idea for a mission I had<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yep.

[Chimz]

hey, chillerW i love your sig pic, but what map is that, been lookin for it for days now ?

[Kasterix]

I too have been messing with chains, and the physics... Some results include turning the cargo truck into a boat transport, by attaching a chain that holds the boat in place while driving.
http://venus.walagata.com/w/kasterix/truck_w_ptboat.jpg
Only problem is when unloading the boat you need to basically drive the truck into water after shooting the chain, and the boat takes a small amount of damage in transit... But I suppose in the middle of a hostile territory you won't be looking for the necessary means to unload a boat so some boat damage would be expected.
This is the result of trying to unload the boat without shooting the chain http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://venus.walagata.com/w/kasterix/ptboat_truck.jpg
Also turned the hummer into a dinghy transport...
http://venus.walagata.com/w/kasterix/hummer_w_dinghy.jpg

[Abby.Rock]

I think a bigger problem is that you have to remember physics cannot be used for most objects in multiplayer. I've tried quite a few things including a sled attached to a jeep and a raft attached to a gunboat, but none of them work in multi. Only the host sees the physics, the rest of the clients see no effects whatsoever.

Abby

[NL_Snake_NL]

I had the same idea yesterday, i coulnd post the pictures yesterday, now i can but you where quiker then me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif
So here my screens to:

Boat on truck we truck stands still:
http://wesley.shacknet.nu/upload/images/5494.JPG

The boat when i drove a bit(he goes a little bit to the back):
http://wesley.shacknet.nu/upload/images/5495.JPG

The truck and boat in the water:
http://wesley.shacknet.nu/upload/images/5496.JPG

When i shoot the chains and push the boat it explodes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif
i think i need to give the boat and truck more health.

I also tried to put a buggie on the truck but the wheel-axe of the buggy is to widht.

[Cycrac]

I also did the boat transport thing.. 'bout a week ago or so.. My problem was that when you drove the truck to the water (I made a slope just like in most boat harbours) to release the boat, it exploded.. Also the boat took damage while driving..
Well, edited the boat and truck configuration files and now they don't explode.. Problem is that it affects all the boats & trucks :/

[Spiffeh]

this is a complete guess but could you not just copy the existing config, and create a new one, paste the information and then edit it, and then save it under a different name so that you can choose, for example, the indestructable truck config for the one you don't want to explode, and use the original truck config for the others

[Nomexboy]

A heavy rock and a merc would make for some fun Mafia renactments!

[Cycrac]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spiffeh:
this is a complete guess but could you not just copy the existing config, and create a new one, paste the information and then edit it, and then save it under a different name so that you can choose, for example, the indestructable truck config for the one you don't want to explode, and use the original truck config for the others<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well that's almost like creating a whole new vehicle with same model but different physics.. Actually, it's exactly like creating a whole new vehicle with the same model but different physics http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif So, a bit too much work if I'm just testing things..

[NOVA_Maimer]

maybe see if you can move the options you are changing into the properties area without crashing it. Then try and modify the properties for your specific vehicle and see if it only effects that one

[Swooperz]

I just wanted to say "great stuff' to all of you guys for being creative! I love it and it's inspiring to see all that you can come up with, using one small part of an obviously massive editor of endless opportunities!

Sweet! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Madmccoy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I think a bigger problem is that you have to remember physics cannot be used for most objects in multiplayer. I've tried quite a few things including a sled attached to a jeep and a raft attached to a gunboat, but none of them work in multi. Only the host sees the physics, the rest of the clients see no effects whatsoever.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, they can. Its been explained numerous times on the forum already how to do it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Open the script basicentity.lua, you will find this line:

self:NetPresent(nil);

change it to

self:NetPresent(1);<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[JinYo_Jimbo]

I've got the same problem as Camel, It seems I can't stay in the paraglider after the slack is out, any suggestions?

[n0z3k1ll3r]

I know if you touch a merc chopper in a hangglider you're forcibly ejected. Maybe this happens from any outside interference?

[blueskin01]

hang glider will not stay up with buggy pulluing it.
this is bcos it is not a hangglider but just a floating boat with a very small gravity value. u can change this in the glider.lua so that it never falls or even rises http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
sorry to ruin the fun an all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif probably the slack coming out of the chain gives the glider impulse and any impulse on the glider makes u drop out.

on other note: i cannot get chains to attach to choppers, i notice u have used a trolly or something under your V22 and i used a rigid entity which is "attach" to the chopper is this right?
also having problems getting the damn chopper off the ground with a buggy on its chains! seems like the heli cant lift the buggy, is this right???
any help much appreciated

[Swooperz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by blueskin01:
hang glider will not stay up with buggy pulluing it.
this is bcos it is not a hangglider but just a floating boat with a very small gravity value. u can change this in the glider.lua so that it never falls or even rises http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
sorry to ruin the fun an all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif probably the slack coming out of the chain gives the glider impulse and any impulse on the glider makes u drop out....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

AmishSlayer, a couple pages back, said that they were SUCCESSFUL at attaching the paraglider to a boat and going for a ride. There actually is a picture that I have seen (albeit down right now due to exceeding bandwidth) to show for it.

AmishSlayer, tell us how you did it? Or was that a doctored up photo?

Hopefully Amish can shed some light upon this longed for experiment... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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[blueskin01]

my bad musta missed that : (
on other news:
im having trouble attaching a chain to the v22, at present i have it suspended from a rigidbody box which is group&gt;attach to the v22. problem is wen i do this the chain goes all stretchy and long, any help much appreciado!

[blueskin01]

ok any help would bwe very useful, when ever the rigidbody my chain it attachtoup becomes "group&gt;attach" to the V22 the chain goes all stretchy. wth? plz plz help, cant figure a way to get rid of this and its causing crapness for a v22 carrying vehicles.

[Limited0]

Have you activated AI/physics?

[blueskin01]

for what the rigidbody or the v22? yes for the rigid, attached and unactivated non stretch chain but attach and activated ios stretchy, from pics on page 1 is your chain stretchy or rigid?

[GordieFreeman]

Blueskin, I suggest trying a different chain. I used the regular chain on my jeep to drag my body(sick mind) and there was a large gap. Then, I tried a different chain and it worked perfectly. Hope this helps. Also, try to put the object being dragged above ground.

[blueskin01]

nope dint help, its the fact that the rigidbody the chains attachupto is "group&gt;attach" that is wat makes chains stretchy.... how can i get a chain to stick to a chopper other than with a rigidbody?

[Shalashaska13]

Ok... sorry to ask this if it has been answered already (was looking through some of the past messages and didn't find it but could be my mistake)... How can I attach the chain to two things? I can attach it to one thing (although the chain isn't actually attached?) but not anything else. Any help on getting 2 things attached with the chain and getting the chain to actually look like it is connected?

[AmishSlayer]

The pics I posted before are not doctored. It works just fine the way I do it.

www.geocities.com/amishslayer/ (http://www.geocities.com/amishslayer/)

There is the pic again. I added a couple more showing and explanations on how I set it up.

It's a pretty jerky ride, but it works.

I slowed the speed of the other 2 jeeps so they would stay with the towing jeep (speed loss due to me being dragged). So now I like to try and take the other jeeps out with rockets and stuff.

I don't know exactly what you guys are trying...maybe you have just one small thing different from me or something and that's why it doesn't work...but I assure you mine does.

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[Spaz_McNasty]

WOW guys!!!! wtg!!!!! i would love to download a few of those maps just to mess around in....to be honest i really am no good at mapping...i can photshop like a mad man....its that whole 3d thing that gets me. but i am trying.....trying to read that fn book for the sandbox.....but good job...and like i said before if i could download some of your guys maps i could have 2 things 1. a place to mess around in and 2. a guide so i can TRY and map.
Thanks!!

[Swooperz]

Hey thanks for the detai on how to do it and the extra pics!!

Can't wait to try it!

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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[Arkalius]

I attatched too jeeps with a chain and then made guys get in and try to go to waypoints in opposite directions. They play a kind of tug-a-war, it's quite amusing.

Has anyone figured out how to attach two chains to each other without using another object?

[Spaz_McNasty]

lol

[blueskin01]

n1 AmishSlayer, i think the only difference we have is that im using attachtoup to the dragger, im gonna change em round see how it goes.
ty,
u have anough space to host that map with all your chain stuff, a million questions can be silenced by dling and looking t the map.

[blueskin01]

yeah, my chains is still stretchy, plz plz upload that map so i can grab it, million thnaks in advance

[Troast]

Please release some of these maps they look like great fun!

[Deathwish-uk-]

LOL. I just connected about 5 vehicles together and watched them plunge 300ft to their deaths. Also, another note on the pysics. Put a boat under water, it rises so fast that it gets some air when it gets to the surface, put yourself in the way and you get launched!!!

[GordieFreeman]

Okay I got the body dragging down perfectly. Now, I will make a two way drag in which there will be a vehicle on both sides and both are able to drag eachother. This is fun.

[Swooperz]

Hey Amish! How the heck did you get the plank to attach to the machinegun? I tried attach under group, and also group, and link, but nothing! We're trying to put together a FAQ for the FarCRy irc channel, and this would help greatly! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Also, I like the idea someone had of allowing us to download your map and experiment with it. What do ya think? If you need space somwehere, I can help as well!

Thanks so much!
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[WBmatrix]

I have a prob I can connect stuff with the chain but when i close the map (i do save) and open it back up the chains do not work anymore!? Whats up!? I also had made some road paths and those dissapeared too!

[AmishSlayer]

Plank? I don't know what you mean by attaching the plank to the machine gun. I'll see what I can do about uploading it. I'm not going to make any promises though, I've only tryed it out inside the editor. I haven't loaded it up ingame yet because I like being able to change stuff on the fly.

EDIT2: Just uploaded it to www.farcryarena.com (http://www.farcryarena.com) hopefully it will be reviewed and hosted. I would host it myself but geocities only lets you upload 5 mb at a time and web1000's ftp uploading is down right now...

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[This message was edited by AmishSlayer on Tue April 06 2004 at 01:52 PM.]

[This message was edited by AmishSlayer on Tue April 06 2004 at 02:12 PM.]

[Swooperz]

There is a piece of wood/board/plywood/stick/long-thing hanging off the gun. How'd you attach it?

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[AmishSlayer]

I'm sorry Swooperz...but are you talking about one of the 3 pics on the geocities page? If so...which one? The only things I see attached to anything are the chains to the jeep and such. The only other lines I see are the connecting lines between the triggers and the jeeps.

Oh.. and one more thing... I don't know exactly how or why..but the water turned red on me. I didn't even change anything.

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[Swooperz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AmishSlayer:
I'm sorry Swooperz...but are you talking about one of the 3 pics on the geocities page? If so...which one? The only things I see attached to anything are the chains to the jeep and such. The only other lines I see are the connecting lines between the triggers and the jeeps.

Oh.. and one more thing... I don't know exactly how or why..but the water turned red on me. I didn't even change anything.

2500+ AMD Barton
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The picture with the machinegun on top of the sniper tower. It has a piece of wood or something attached to it, which then has the chain hanging of IT.

This one....http://home.broadpark.no/~johnbe/farcry/wreckingball02.jpg

What is that wood colored object jutting off of the machinegun?

OOOPS! I just realized that this was done by OBADJA. I am the one who should apologize!! Sorry!
OBADJA, help us out here!! How'd you do that???
How did you attach that piece of wood to the machinegun to make it moveable??


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[BorisMate]

I love the ChainSwing! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.imageshack.us/img2/1039/lol12.JPG

[RoKi_Uber]

I don't even understand textures let alone any of this. Looks fun I wish I could do it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

[ahm-fca]

the map has been released and can be downloaded here:

http://www.farcryarena.com/pages/downloads/file.asp?s=11158

http://images.action-arena.com/downloads/farcry/maps/fun_s.jpg

[Spaz_McNasty]

cool.......dling now..........sweet!!!!111!!!

[Spaz_McNasty]

i got it and put it in my levels folder.....what now i dont see it as a ffa tdm or assult? do i just play with it in sandbox?

[wingzero124]

I have my own problem now. How do i get a boat (entity) pull a barge (simple entity) it just doesnt budge atall/ Cheers in advance.

[ahm-fca]

type this in console:

\map fun

and it should load up

[AmishSlayer]

I finally used those two table mountains how I originally intended.... a giant rope bridge that I could drive across (well sorta).

A couple screens and info:

http://www.geocities.com/amishslayer/

Any ideas on how to make chainswings tighter? I've tried lots of things but I haven't been able to stop the one side sagging.

EDIT: I recommend just messing with the level in Sandbox. That way if/when you die you can easily make necessary adjustments. Ex: The jeeps kept shooting me down out of my paraglider, so I pretty much made them useless. Their attack range is 1 or something.

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[AmishSlayer]

Ack. You guys hit my geocities site too much. It's down for an hour or so (According to geocities).

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[WBmatrix]

how do you make the chain swing hang from certain parts of an object(ex. the neck of that body in the pic)?

[Kasterix]

I think attaching chains to certain parts of bodies is mostly luck...
Although when first placing the body I can attach the chain to specific areas quite easily, but after the first test of it with physics I can never get the body to reset to it's original position :\

[AmishSlayer]

Sooooo... did the map work for you guys? Nobody has posted a reply about the map.

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[blueskin01]

ok, i assume u want contrsuctive criticism:
1)too man yof the the same type of tree lined up next to each other. same with rocks etc. just makes it look amateur. (my biggest problem)
2)random dead bodies that wont move in the water. looks good but they wont budge.
3)too open in some areas too close in others.
3)no grass? or was that me?
hope this helps. will hae a ffs map out today hopefully, need someone to host...."hopeful grin"

[yakkson]

so many possibilities with this kind of thinking, Well done AmishSlayer you have opened the doors to massively sneaky traps galore!

[wingzero124]

any chance of some help with my problem? Its really annoying. Cheers

[Swooperz]

Hey Obadja! Could you upload that map or tell me how exactly how you set that up? For example, I can create a sphere; it just doesn't move, even with rest and rigidbody =true.

Thanks Man!

Btw - if you need somewhere to ftp it, I can provide that to you.

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[WBmatrix]

making a bridge of my own any1 figure out how to tighten the chainswings?like amish said?

[potamas]

Amish, about the tilting issue you said. I've been messing with chain bridges for about 6+ hours today, and the only way I've found for the bridge to be stable is a couple of things:

1. Have the first part of the bridge (chain or stable piece of something) be LEVEL with the rest of the bridge, ie. don't make a 'hanging' bridge (do you get what I mean?).

2. Place the platforms equal length from each other, and have the chains placed in same position on each side of platform.


Ok, I feel REALLY dumb about writing that, because I just looked back into my map, and I do have a stable bridge that doesn't meet the listed criteria... but I do know that the above will work. So basically just take what I said with a grain of salt =/

[AmishSlayer]

Ok. I have part of the list done already (and the exact same height before physics are enabled). All the pieces of the bridge are parallel (all the same exact direction).

They're not exactly the same distance apart though. I don't see why that would be the problem though (as long as the ropes are in the same position on either side of the bridge).

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[Shask343]

the download link is broken..http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif i wunna play with chains lol

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[GordieFreeman]

Ok, I'm going to try to make a hammock with these chains.

[watchinthewheel]

is the ai good enough to try to pick up a gun on the groud if it doesnt have one? if it is you HAVE to put a p90 on a string and tie it to a buggy just to see how long a merc will follow you for http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[Lo.TekK]

I think you need to mess with the AI scripts in order for an enemy to try to pick up weapons. I seem to recall seeing a comment in one of the scripts that mentions the enemies won't pick up any weapons or items.

[Hakuryu9]

Doh! Didnt see this thread til searched... I did the boat and paraglider thing - pics at post other post (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=273109392&m=732103673)

It works fine, but is jerky, and in using only one chain you see only a part of it... which swings around wildly... same results as AmishSlayer.

I'm sure it would work perfectly with a modified paraglider, and perhaps modified chainswing.

[craftsman550]

what ever happened to that wrecking ball thing? whoever was making it, did you ever finish the model?

[zurik6am]

Thats some cool idea`s.
I was woundering How you could set that chains up to reset after a certian time after Shoting them apart like the Brigde.
EX: Some one runing across the brigde and shoot the chains to Let them fall HA! And after that It resets in a min?
All So Im Trying To Find the Ressurect option to ressurect The Choppers and Glider?
What triger has this Option?
One more thing Why do the Veicals Explode better in SandBox and not in the game?
thanx

[kungfoo_legand]

man i love this editor, does anyone else have the texture glitch where the ground textures disappears when your a certain distance away??
only some textures do this and it doesnt seem the matter if i paint them or creat a elevation/slope mask
PS BorisMate i love your pic way to much!!!

[Swooperz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by craftsman550:
what ever happened to that wrecking ball thing? whoever was making it, did you ever finish the model?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not sure if you mean the guy who was modelling one in 3d, me, or someone else. But, I was talking about it in the past, and figured it out. The attach command was what got it working correctly and I put it together on the ground, then after they were attached (mounted machine gun and flagpole), I moved them up to the tower. There, I did the chainswing routine mentioned here.

Here's the final result. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Oh, and that's a globe scaled for the ball. Under props I think.
http://swooperz.homeftp.net/images/wreckball.jpg

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[craftsman550]

that would be cool if when the SDK comes out that someone makes a wrecking ball that you can get in and move back and forward. that would just be AWESOME. and its very possible too! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

[DillyDawg]

That's bloody cool. I've been playing around with the sandbox editor, and I have no idea what's going on. Hell, I cant even preview it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[i8food4dinner]

I really need help. Could someone post a short tutorial on how to make the wrecking ball? I've tried linking, attaching(these two seem to do about the same thing) and I've grouped them. the closest I've gotten is getting the flagpole to follow the machine gun, but the chain didn't follow, the pole disappeared whenever I turned about 90 degrees, and I tried undoing to find out what I did wrong and I forgot what I did in the first place. The wrecking ball looks so cool, can someone please help? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/smileys-gun2.gif

[Swooperz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by i8food4dinner:
I really need help. Could someone post a short tutorial on how to make the wrecking ball? I've tried linking, attaching(these two seem to do about the same thing) and I've grouped them. the closest I've gotten is getting the flagpole to follow the machine gun, but the chain didn't follow, the pole disappeared whenever I turned about 90 degrees, and I tried undoing to find out what I did wrong and I forgot what I did in the first place. The wrecking ball looks so cool, can someone please help? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/smileys-gun2.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay. I have to say that it is extremely tricky. I don't know the exact combination that worked, but I did find that creating the flagpole/machinegun attachment on the ground with nothing else around helped tremendously. Secondly, the settings on the flagpole - Resting-False, Rigidbody-True, RigidBody Active-False. on the MachineGun-UserPhys-False. For the params AngHlimit thru mountRadius respectively are: 0, 60, -60, 0.6, 1.1, 0.8.
Now, on the chain - AttachTo is the ball itself, and AttachtoUP is the flagpole.

Hope that helps some. My best advice is to keep trying. I must have spent 3-4 hours working on it total, before I got it right. I thought making a prefab out of it would be a good idea, but it breaks the link when you do that for some reason. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://swooperz.homeftp.net/images/machinepole.jpg

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[Swooperz]

I think I may have gotten a prefab to work. This prefab is ONLY of the flagpole and machine gun. I haven's tested it yet with adding a chainswing. You will need to go to Window, Show Database View, click on Prefabs, then click the open icon and open the .xml you just saved. Let me know how it works out. For this link to the xml file,
Right-Click and do Save As/Save Target As, otherwise it will probably open up automatically in IE.

Wrecking Ball Prefab (http://swooperz.homeftp.net/docs/wreckball.xml)

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[FuSiON_3D]

Hmm I can't open it. It complains about "Level" has a duplicated GUID. When trying to geive prefabs away you will propably have to start a new library since everybody has "Level" already.

[FuSiON_3D]

You can fix it by opening the xml file and change in the first line "Level" to "Level2".

[Swooperz]

Cool. Good to know.

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[i8food4dinner]

Thanks that really helps, unfortunately, the chain won't connect, is there a way to undo prefab groups? I'm lost, sorry to complain. The prefab is awesome though! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[i8food4dinner]

I GOT IT TO WORK! I know it isn't much just to get it to work, but the fact that someone as simple as I am got it to work surprises me. Swooperz, your explanatoion really helped. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[Swooperz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by i8food4dinner:
I GOT IT TO WORK! I know it isn't much just to get it to work, but the fact that someone as simple as I am got it to work surprises me. Swooperz, your explanatoion really helped. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Woohoo! I haven't had a chance to work with making a prefab of the whole wrecking ball, so I am glad you got it working!
It IS exciting! What did you do to get it working?

Do you have a picture we could see?

Have fun!

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Swooperz
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[i8food4dinner]

I would post a picture, but it's not that interesting yet. I'm wondering if I could attach an impulse to the wrecking ball. That would be interesting http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif, but I have no experience with scripting in sandbox http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif. I also need to know how to post pictures.

[Bio-Infected]

How to post pictures? Well, you need a domain to upload the pictures to, then click the picture Icon when writing the message, and add the url of the picture. If you don't have a domain, you can get a free one... like www.geocities.com, (http://www.geocities.com) but you have to fill out a bunch of stuff. If you want, you can e-mail me the picture, and I can add it to the forum for you.

System-
Dell Dimension 2350 (Upgraded)
Intel Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Thread Technology
-Clocked at 2.8 gHz (800 mHz FSB)
1GB of Cruicial PC2100 RAM (4 GB MAX)
ASUS P4P-800-VM Motherboard
PNY VERTO GeForce FX 5200
-128 MB RAM

[Swooperz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bio-Infected:
How to post pictures? Well, you need a domain to upload the pictures to, then click the picture Icon when writing the message, and add the url of the picture. If you don't have a domain, you can get a free one... like http://www.geocities.com but you have to fill out a bunch of stuff. If you want, you can e-mail me the picture, and I can add it to the forum for you.

System-
Dell Dimension 2350 (Upgraded)
Intel Pentium 4 w/ Hyper Thread Technology
-Clocked at 2.8 gHz (800 mHz FSB)
1GB of Cruicial PC2100 RAM (4 GB MAX)
ASUS P4P-800-VM Motherboard
PNY VERTO GeForce FX 5200
-128 MB RAM<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can also try another free image hosting service because Geocities is lame when linking to their images, so I recommend n00bstories.com. Those are zeros, by the way. Or you can email it to me as well.

System - Apple ][+
64K RAM
2 Disk ][ 5 1/4 Drives
1 Integer Basic Card
1 Serial Card
1 Monitor ][ Green Screen
And FarCry Rules on It! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
But Hard Hat Mack runs better :P
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[i8food4dinner]

here 'tis
http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/9108/wreckingball.JPG

[This message was edited by i8food4dinner on Tue May 04 2004 at 06:24 PM.]

[craftsman550]

post your pics on this site. http://img2.imageshack.us/ its a great site and you can upload as many pics as you want http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[Swooperz]

Well alright! You got yourself a wreckingball (err, bomb) going on! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Nice!

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[mattpocius]

Why cant i attach the chain to the end of the pole? the end of the chain just floats in the air

[i8food4dinner]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mattpocius:
Why cant i attach the chain to the end of the pole? the end of the chain just floats in the air<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>if you're using the prefab I think the first thing you do is click "extract all" on the rollup bar while thhe prefab is selected and when you delete or move the prefab, the two original objects should be there. Once you type the flagpole's id where you want it in the chainswing properties(AttachTo or AttachUpTo), the wrecking ball should work http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. Sorry if it doesn't though.

[mattpocius]

no i had done that already---the end of the chain just hovers in the air

[mattpocius]

ive used chainswing many times before and it works......

[DvS132]

I've got two problems trying to make a wrecking ball.. one, a flagpole that can move with the chaingun just doesn't work, the pole is just in the air. So does the chain if I skip the pole part, I move the gun but the chain itself doesn't.. if you could do a small tutorial about this, I'd appreciate it.

[mattpocius]

can someone help me?

[Swooperz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mattpocius:
can someone help me?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've like to make a tute but I can't seem to find the time with work and all. Maybe over the weekend.

One thing is to make sure the actual chain overlaps with both objects it is attached to AND both objects have rigidbody enabled.

Cheers!
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[mattpocius]

ok i got everything else to work.....but how can i stop the chain from stretching? is that possible?

[Pixel_M]

It's possible to attach a handglider to a helicopter too. Then you can make the chopper to fly high and then shoot the chain. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Soupy21]

Hey, i just started with the art of "Chainswinging" today, (hell, i just starting using the editor today...hehe) and this stuff is really fun! I've got a few ideas i'd like to try out, such as hanging bases, and making big platforms swing and transport stuff.

It'd be really cool to see a huge chain-reaction of swings, that all start by cutting 1 rope or chain, hehe.

[Swooperz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Soupy21:
Hey, i just started with the art of "Chainswinging" today, (hell, i just starting using the editor today...hehe) and this stuff is really fun! I've got a few ideas i'd like to try out, such as hanging bases, and making big platforms swing and transport stuff.

It'd be really cool to see a huge chain-reaction of swings, that all start by cutting 1 rope or chain, hehe.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Those are some really cool ideas, Soupy21! Please keep us updated on how that all goes. Maybe even some screenshots too? I can help you if you dont have a place to host the pics.

Nice going! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cheers! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Swooperz
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[This message was edited by Swooperz on Sun May 09 2004 at 07:44 PM.]

[Soupy21]

Alright, nothing special, but i thought it was kind of...cool i guess. i put a jeep on a ladder suspended between 2 towers, and when i broke 1 of the chains, the jeep would do 1 roll, and land perfectly on the ground.

http://www.freewebs.com/soupy21/FarCry0004.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/soupy21/FarCry0005.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/soupy21/FarCry0006.jpg

copy and paste those URLs...i cant seem to get a link to work

[Swooperz]

Cool. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Its neat the things we can think up and do with the chainswing. Somebody (maybe this thread near the beginning) mentioned a carousel type of setup but with hanging buggies from a round floor piece on a rotating pole.

Thanks for the pics! Let us know when you have more pics of your other ideas as well. You might check that first picture link...It may be broken.

Well, Night!

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[Killer_Waffle]

Heya swoopers,

i was just looking for this thread..was wondering if you guys got this included in your faq http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif..since it's a thing quite a few people are playing with... or not usable yet since there is no perfect way yet to create a chainswing?

NI!

[Swooperz]

Hi Killer_Waffle. No, we don't have it in our FAQ yet. Typically, AEon and myself we are just the compilers of info from lots of people, but since I am one who has had success with the chainswing, I will give it a go when I get some time. Maybe I can whip something out in the next couple of weeks...unless someone ELSE wants to contribute that to the FAQ. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Speaking of being busy, I gotta run! C ya! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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web design/pc repair in Colorado

[evilsandwich]

Yeh I made a Lvl With A long Chain Bridge on it. Took me like 30min to do cause its a long bridge but then I added stuff like a area you walk into and then it rains and AI going to Sleep and Getting Into Chairs...

Then I made a Pig Race. If I knew How to get screen Shots I would Post it .. But It is fun watching Yourself get chased by Pigs and Then Hurling Yourself Off of Ramps and Having the pigs follow you around shooting you down. Also I made a Arena Of Pigs That Have Rocket Launchers and Tasers. Can Someone Please tell me how to post screenshots!

[Soupy21]

Are the SP physics ever going to be available on multiplayer? It would be really cool.

Is it because of possible lag issues, or just because they forgot to include it?

[shdowofthepain]

i cant even paint layers.
can someone help me with the chain thing?
but like in an easy way so even i can understand?

[XPGeeos]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Soupy21:
Are the SP physics ever going to be available on multiplayer? It would be really cool.

Is it because of possible lag issues, or just because they forgot to include it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The problem with MP physics is packet size. In some cases adding a physicalized object is like adding a player in terms of BW. Depending on the object, it could be more like 2 or 3 players due to rotation, position, velocity etc. I thought I saw somewhere that people are having success with it, but I wouldn't hold my breath on playing an MP match with a pyramid of barrels anytime soon http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[i8food4dinner]

If you want screenshots, press f12 when you want to take the screenshot and your picture should end up in the main farcry directory. If website hosting is a problem, try http://www.imageshack.us/, it should work well.

[Destroyer4312]

I have an awesome idea, i only read up to page 4 so iduno if this was said but, u could make boxes, ( floatable ones ) attached to rocks in the water by chains, have like 100's of these in rows
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

etc etc, then have a zodiac drive over it ( like ur friend ) and u shoot the chains with a sniper rifle while hes over them, and maybe if they popped up fast enough something might happen? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif only an idea http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[happyfax]

I've been messing with the chain swing object and have created a boat that pulls a raft this works perfect in Sandbox editor but when i create a server to host the map and join the raft no longer moves and the chain just stretches.

from what i have read i don't think the chainswing works online, is that correct?!

also i have a similar issue with a animated light beam that scans the area, the animation works perfect online but the i edited the beam in sandbox so that it was much bigger and more visable but the beam always defaults back to its original very small size!

again is this a problem for hosting these types of things online? because they both work perfect in the editor