For the love of the universe, please tone down airstrikes.

[Jaded-Fury]

I can understand level one and two, really... bigger radius and whatnot ,but level 3 is basically instant kill for EVERYTHING it gets thrown at. For newer players, or players who switched faction to help even out numbers, this makes it impossible to win.

I am considering permenantly leaving Endwar until this is addressed. Sure, I am only one person, but I know of at least five others from various factions who are of the same mind, but haven't spoken up, and would simply call it quits.

Please, please, PLEASE up the cost of level 3 airstrikes considerably at LEAST... as it stands, the thing is HUGELY overpowered for it's price. I think 9 CP would be good... you can easily kill 3-4 units at once with it if you use it well. Unit killers are also a problem, but from what I see, only the *******s and the idiots who think this is an actual war do that, so I won't go into that.

[Jaded-Fury]

I can understand level one and two, really... bigger radius and whatnot ,but level 3 is basically instant kill for EVERYTHING it gets thrown at. For newer players, or players who switched faction to help even out numbers, this makes it impossible to win.

I am considering permenantly leaving Endwar until this is addressed. Sure, I am only one person, but I know of at least five others from various factions who are of the same mind, but haven't spoken up, and would simply call it quits.

Please, please, PLEASE up the cost of level 3 airstrikes considerably at LEAST... as it stands, the thing is HUGELY overpowered for it's price. I think 9 CP would be good... you can easily kill 3-4 units at once with it if you use it well. Unit killers are also a problem, but from what I see, only the *******s and the idiots who think this is an actual war do that, so I won't go into that.

[b_4721]

Ok lets see...

GENERIC ANTI AIRSTRIKE WHINER MESSAGE:
DO NOT LET ENEMY KEEP 3 FULLY UPGRADED UPLINKS/TAKE ADVANTAGE OF LACK OF UNITS ENEMY HAS ON FIELD FROM USING CPs ON AIRSTRIKES /DON'T LEAVE YOURSELF SUSCEPTIBLE TO AIRSTRIKES


Does that about cover it?


Seriously...if I were to quit the game because of something as trivial as problems with airstrikes...

[BadKarma1303]

Keep your units spread out too. If he wants to waste 8 CP on one unit then let the ****** and take advantage of his CP defecit.

As long as your units are spread out then there is no way he can get enough units to stop you from taking one of the uplinks.

Either way, if you're letting your opponent sit back and airstrike you to death then you are moving way too slow.

[Templar11709]

Why does everyone choose to whine about lvl 3 when it's the one most easily countered.

The most common complaint is when it's used for uplink defense so I'll use it's counter as an example.

All you need is 3 units of rifleman, it's also good to have a unit of artillery or your own strikes to give the rifleman support to stop them from using units to counter you.

A)Send each rifleman unit in either the same trajectory with intervals between them.
or
B)Send them in from different directions so they will arrive at approximately the same time, make sure that if they don't use any strikes to not allow all your rifleman into the uplink at the same time.

Option B is the best in my opinion because you don't lose time to enemy strikes while using option A) you will lose time because of your forward Rifleman being hit, another factor that makes B better is that if their is Rifleman garrisoned you have more units to defeat them(this is assuming your men get into weapons range before their spotted due to stealth).

In either scenario you will face a maximum unit loss of 2 which is 8 CP while in fact you only lose 4 CP because of the uplink bonus, if your in DefCon you haven't lost any CP . At the same time your enemy has lost an uplink and exhausted 12 CP.

[b_4721]

Ok, maybe this seems easier for me then it would be for others...but how the hell do people let your opponent get so many upgraded uplinks...maybe on glen albyn/shenendoah/whatever other clones the enemy could safely hold 2 uplinks without much risk to them, but every other map I have ever played there are not multiple uplinks that are untouchable, either by being captured or destroyed. I usually am hit by one air strike if any before I take away the option for the guy, either through forcing him to deploy to stay alive, destroying uplinks, or taking the uplinks myself.


If your enemy has 3 upgraded uplinks you deserve to be hit by a level 3 airstrike.

[mkimkilop]

dude it no that hard to get next lvl irstrikes I sjut switch friday and I already hae leval 3 air strikes and leval 2 force con.

[Jaded-Fury]

On certain maps, it is stupidly easy to grab and go with engineers, like the JFK map. You can just go down your line and use engineers with transports to upgrade em as you go, and suddenly they just have tons of CP for nuking any unit that comes nearby.

[tyler56721]

i agree in most cases that if you let the enemy get three upgraded uplinks, then you deserve the level three air strikes, but its quite easy to get that in assault moder where you can already start with three uplinks,upgrade closest one with unit 1, capture then upgrade neutral one with unit 2, all while sending unit 1 to upgrade one of your other uplinks or capture and upgrade one of your enemys(flanking) what happens in le cieto for me anyway

[LIT_U_UP]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by b_4721:
Ok, maybe this seems easier for me then it would be for others...but how the hell do people let your opponent get so many upgraded uplinks...maybe on glen albyn/shenendoah/whatever other clones the enemy could safely hold 2 uplinks without much risk to them
[Quote]
Brenner Pass and all its look alikes where the enemy just camps the three on his side as he just pounds the middle uplink and Airstrikes everthing that enters LOS. Easy Anihalation Victory for whoever has Supp

[b_4721]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LIT_U_UP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by b_4721:
Ok, maybe this seems easier for me then it would be for others...but how the hell do people let your opponent get so many upgraded uplinks...maybe on glen albyn/shenendoah/whatever other clones the enemy could safely hold 2 uplinks without much risk to them
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Brenner Pass and all its look alikes where the enemy just camps the three on his side as he just pounds the middle uplink and Airstrikes everthing that enters LOS. Easy Anihalation Victory for whoever has Supp </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That map is made for flanking your enemy, make a distraction in the center to use up his CP on airstrikes and hit him from a side on one of the narrow passes...hit him twice at once from two or three different points.

[divac7777]

your opponent should never be able to get level 3 of anything if u know what u are doing. I've played about 200 games and have yet to get level 3 airstriked.

[Stav_044]

same

[masteryodaaa]

or, in other words: pro-tip: same http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

yeah, every strategy has a counter-strategy. if he is airstriking you, that means he has less CP to spend on units. immediately follow with a deepstrike to one of his back uplinks. he's CP drained so you should be able to at least make it neutral before he gets units at you.

as for level 3 airstrikes: DESTROY THE DARN CP'S!!! you play with artillery, right? when their not attacking your opponents units (which will happen if hes spending a bunch of CP on airstrikes) then you can bomb his uplinks into submission.

[RedlineSV]

I will agree that some maps are difficult to stop him getting 3 upgraded uplinks (Brenner Pass) and yes I have been airstriked to death before. But I will agree with the others on 80% of the maps the enemy should never be able to get 3 upgrades.

On Okefenokee last night I actually let my enemy take 5 of the uplinks and upgrade them, this gave me defcon so I had crash uplink for the future. I had rifel men in the trese with stealth. I dragged all his units in the middle by attacking and while he was focusing on them I taken all his uplinks at once and watched him scramble engineers around the map trying to take um back before the timer ran out, a couple of well placed arts will stop them. This same tatic will work in assault also.

I usually send a artillary to odd places on the map and down the uplinks cos most the time they never even notice.