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Cirap
11-21-2006, 05:03 PM
I have a question for you about Logan Keller, the new Team leader

It says in his BIO (http://rainbowsixgame.us.ubi.com/vegas/info/characters.php) he was first was a Marine:

1991-1993: Marines 4th Division
1993-1997: Recon C Company

then suddenly was an army boy, in Delta, all within a year?

1997-2005: 1st SFOD-Delta

Is this even possible? Even with his previous experience as a Marine, wouldn't he have to go through a lot of testing and screening before beeing allowed to even join the Army? And even if he was allowed into the army at once, doesn't it take quite some time to become Sergeant and SF qualified?

Don't UBI soft hire veterans to check these facts for them? I know it's a game, but it's supposed to be authentic

Cirap
11-21-2006, 05:03 PM
I have a question for you about Logan Keller, the new Team leader

It says in his BIO (http://rainbowsixgame.us.ubi.com/vegas/info/characters.php) he was first was a Marine:

1991-1993: Marines 4th Division
1993-1997: Recon C Company

then suddenly was an army boy, in Delta, all within a year?

1997-2005: 1st SFOD-Delta

Is this even possible? Even with his previous experience as a Marine, wouldn't he have to go through a lot of testing and screening before beeing allowed to even join the Army? And even if he was allowed into the army at once, doesn't it take quite some time to become Sergeant and SF qualified?

Don't UBI soft hire veterans to check these facts for them? I know it's a game, but it's supposed to be authentic

RaP7oR.pT
11-21-2006, 05:33 PM
idk, I'm from Portugal (and that is possible there)

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ICB_Storm
11-21-2006, 07:03 PM
Most recruits come from the United States Army Special Forces (the Green Berets), the 75th Ranger Regiment, or the 82nd Airborne. However, recruits are also drawn from other branches of the military. Such recruits are usually men with skills such as proficiency in a foreign language or other desirable traits. The majority of delta force members are college graduates. There is only a seven percent chance of making it into Delta Force.

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Thump248th
11-21-2006, 09:18 PM
You were expecting realism/well thought out story from UBI?

redbeta99
11-21-2006, 10:40 PM
The Army and Marine Corp/Navy have operation Blue-to-Green

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> "The Army will first match its needs to the skills in other services. An outgrowth of that effort will be the identification of places where that audience is concentrated, so that an orientation team can be scheduled to visit that base. They would then meet with interested members and their families and explain the options.

Following a short presentation, one-to-one dialogue would be encouraged with team members on the spot -- some from the Army's Recruiting Command, who can explain the mechanics of the program, and some from operational Army units eager to explain the Army today. The Blue to Green Web link also is being expanded to include chat rooms.

Once a person's eligibility is confirmed, the losing service would be contacted to effect an agreement to release. New service agreements would be drafted, and the Sailor or Airman would make the move. In many cases, they would carry a directly transferable skill. Otherwise, training in the new skill would be scheduled as part of the move.

In order to qualify, the Sailor or Airman must be eligible for re-enlistment, must be physically fit, and meet Army height and weight standards.
If the skill is transferable, the new Soldier would be scheduled for a new, four- week Warrior Transition Course, where he or she will be offered a curriculum that provides essential skills and abilities needed in their new service. Topics would include an orientation on organization, rank, uniform wear and career progression. The first WTC is scheduled to start in September at Fort Knox, Ky. It is planned as transition training, not boot camp, officials said.

Those transitioning to a new skill, particularly in combat-arms areas like special operations, would participate in the full range of developmental training to hone current talents and provide a new set of skills and abilities." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyjoin/a/artransfer.htm

Cirap
11-22-2006, 04:38 AM
I got word from someone knowledgeable on the subject.

It would be possible to within a year be OTC (Operator's Training Course) qualified, but depending on previous MOS it would take 1-2 years to pass the Special Forces Qualification Course (and as Kellar was not in the Army, he had no previous Army MOS)

OP4masaki
11-22-2006, 10:41 AM
In 1991 when I was in there was only a "4 year prior service" requirement to transfer or I should say attempt to transnfer to the OTC program so given that his Marine status as Recon was from 1991-1997 it would be possible by that rule.

Don't know if it's changed but I would assume it's the same or easier now there is a greater need for OTC qulified personel.

BTW:Everytime I hear or see Fort Knox mentioned I get freaky (I did my OSUT there as well)

Uziyahu-IDF
11-23-2006, 09:35 AM
The guy was Force Recon, and Delta Force was giving DF briefings (we can't tell you where you'll go, when you'll go, how long you'll go, or what you'll do...so, would you like to be Delta Force?) to every branch when I was in.

Later, SOCOM or Special Forces became even more an umbrella organization over all branches, to promote branch cooperation, I read.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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MDS_Geist
11-23-2006, 08:55 PM
It is possible. Not easy or even all that likely, but it certainly is possible.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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MadCat360
11-24-2006, 01:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Uziyahu-IDF:
Later, SOCOM or Special Forces became even more an umbrella organization over all branches, to promote branch cooperation, I read. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah. SOCOM's encouraging their operatives/soldiers to use the branch's camoflauge that thier gonna be working with. If SEALS go with Marines, they'll wear MARPAT. Yet another indicator to SOCOM's "all-branch" mindset, which is good I guess.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">


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drnkmonkey_fed
11-24-2006, 06:46 PM
I was in 1st BN 7th Special Forces Group from 87 - 93 as an 18B (Special Operations Weapons SGT). I was very good friends with a number of DF Operators and they ranged from every branch and rank. Education had very little to do with it in fact a friend of mine in 7th group was the first soft skill MOS (non combat arms) (he was a mechanic)to be accepted and pass the DF course he later transfered out of DF to SF. DF pulls from all branches Spec Ops divisions, you can apply or be selected. If you are Army you can apply just like any other training the Army offers. So basically he could have been 1 SOCOM (DF), hope that help clear some of the details up