Combine low lvl units!!

[Magic_stick]

What do you think about the idea to combine low lvl units?!!
I think it would be very usefull to be able to combine perhaps lvl 1 & lvl 2 units!
1. You have a new unit(with new features) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif
2. You have a stronger unit, which you could really use vs. stronger units!!

So you would have more units in the buildings as normal!!But still don't too much!And if you don't want them, just don't combine them!

[RMS]

Do you mean permanent merging of two different creatures? I think that the sort of thing you have in mind wouldn't fit too well into the context of HoMM. I assume that most creatures would stand up as individuals on their own, and there would reasonably be only a select number of creatures that this would make sense for.

I mean, you could I suppose merge all types of elementals together to create some kind of ultimate creature. On the other hand, what're you going to get if you put a dragon and a minotaur together, or perhaps a leprechaun and a pixie?

What might be nice though is that certain creatures could "team up" temporarily in a certain battle, as a sort of special ability that they could do once a day. Perhaps a stack of pikemen and archers merging together into one joint model so that the entire defense stat of the group goes up considerably more than if they were separate. Then they could decide to split up but then they would have used their "special" ability.

It really is a nice thought, and if it's integrated well, could result in a nice touch to HoMM5. Still though, I can think of other new features that I would rather have.

[ArmagedD00M]

I think it would really be great to have an option to do that.It would create numbers and numbers of strategies , but it would take a lot of time for Nival to create that , but I certainly want it in the exp. pack for HoMM V

[euro_cup]

I like that idea a lot, however I think that it should probably be a special for only certain units of the same town. Like mounting a pikemen on a griffen to make a griffen lancer, or something to that effect.

[Randart1951]

Yes, yes I love this idea and euro_cup has hit on a novel one... Also in Rampart the centaurs and elvish archers could form centaur archers! etc etc etc... Too much fun!

[Marelt]

It's a pretty old idea, actually. I've seen it several times over the years.

Problem is that it will only really work if your 1st and 2nd level creatures are:

1) A creature that can serve as a steed.
2) A creature that is capable of riding that steed.

The only viable suggestions that I've heard so far are goblin+boar and griffin+pikeman (in which case you'd have to scale down the griffin). Elf+centaur already looks a bit weird to me.

[Omega_Destroyer]

Halfing-Dwarves! Half the height of the parent units with twice the fury! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[st14z]

Good idea!

Pikeman+Imp=Spiky flying (small) monster Smimp http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Dragon=Griffon+Hydra?

Bowman+Rose=Waspwort

[phoenixzs]

He surely meant "some creatures",how can people understand something so wrong?
Also dragons and minatours are not low level creatures.
I like wolf riders,ıt would be great if it made wolves and goblins together to form a second 3rd level unit from 1st and 2nd level unit at later stages of the game.
Bu the problem is their growths are different and ı suggest they should be in match with the growth like:if there is 20 goblin and 10 wolf growth it should use up all the available of 20 and 10 and make 10 wolfraider out of it.

[Arzang]

Originally posted by st14z:
Pikeman+Imp=Spiky flying (small) monster Smimp http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Dragon=Griffon+Hydra?

Bowman+Rose=Waspwort

I can see that Smimp being a joke but I truly hope you meant Dragoon and not Dragon. and what's a rose?

[st14z]

it was also a joke, Rose is a flower.

[Ellderon]

Insted of combining them intop a new creature, why not give them special abilities or bonuses that only work when a unit is linked with another unit.

EXAMPLE:
You link your swordsman with the archers (so they form a shield wall to protect the archers) so now archers get a bonus to their defense...

or something similar

[khabal]

Originally posted by Ellderon:
Insted of combining them intop a new creature, why not give them special abilities or bonuses that only work when a unit is linked with another unit.

EXAMPLE:
You link your swordsman with the archers (so they form a shield wall to protect the archers) so now archers get a bonus to their defense...

or something similar

So archers improve a lot their defense while those swordsmen linked CANâ´T attack? (they act like one single troop, so just one should be used) Jeez! I like that idea; you can improve a lot one unit, while donâ´t overpower your faction and still making sense not merging them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I like that idea a lot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Ellderon]

The thing is, the swordmsan are defending the archers now...while they can't move or attack, the archers are far better defended.
in order to get to them (melee) you'd have to fight trough the swordsman first

[Crazy_Maniak]

I like the idea... Like some people said, pikemen and crossbowmen... The pikemen can protect the archers, thus giving them a better defense, they can also recharge their crossbow, thus giving them more speed or a second shot... or simply, because the archers don't worry about defense, they can fire faster.

Goblins and wolves, very much like HoMM3(for the goblin and wolf rider) and HoMM4(for the wolves).

Archers on centaurs, giving them better defense, more health... You know stuff like that.

Also, the idea of pikemen on a griffin seems interesting. Or something similar...

For undeads... well basicly it always existed, skeleton transformer... Or you could merge them in stronger skeletons.

Some little very small creature, and another melee creature, could act to disturb the ennemy thus enabling the other one to deal more damage... or giving it a special ability, maybe no retaliation.

Those are just possible ideas... If someone really thought about it, some more could come out.

[Ellderon]

I wans't thinking changing anything graphicly.

Creating a new unit of pikeman on griffins raises mulitple problmes. first the cost and time top make more units...Second problem wiht merging differnt sized stacks.

In my proposla, on the screen, nothing would change - the swordsman would only stand in a defensive stance infront of hte archers and move with them.

With ranged weapons you could attack the archers, but they would have increased defense.
In melee, you couldn't attack the archers untill you take care of hte swordsman.
simple.