View Full Version : Progress on the Higgs Boson?
Airmail109
06-14-2010, 08:00 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci...ronment/10313875.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_environment/10313875.stm)
Airmail109
06-14-2010, 08:00 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci...ronment/10313875.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/science_and_environment/10313875.stm)
AndyJWest
06-14-2010, 09:07 PM
Ok, where have we got to now:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Finding the Higgs is the primary aim of the £6bn ($10bn) Large Hadron Collider (LHC) experiment near Geneva.
But recent results from the LHC's US rival suggest physicists could be hunting five particles, not one.
The data may point to new laws of physics beyond the current accepted theory - known as the Standard Model. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
So there isn't 'a Higgs Boson' but five different ones. Fair enough - we'll need to look into this more deeply. This will need another collider no doubt. But this will tell us what the Higgs is (are?) made of, and explain everything.
Or maybe not. Perhaps the universe doesn't consist of 'fundamental particles' at all. The closer you look, the more complex it gets. This isn't a reason to stop looking, but it is probably a reason to stop claiming 'the answer' is just around the corner. And a good reason to discourage journalists writing about 'the God Particle' - unless of course you accept the Hindu perspective that denies that God/Gods are susceptible to earthly things like counting...
WTE_Galway
06-14-2010, 10:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AndyJWest:
Ok, where have we got to now:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Finding the Higgs is the primary aim of the £6bn ($10bn) Large Hadron Collider (LHC) experiment near Geneva.
But recent results from the LHC's US rival suggest physicists could be hunting five particles, not one.
The data may point to new laws of physics beyond the current accepted theory - known as the Standard Model. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
So there isn't 'a Higgs Boson' but five different ones. Fair enough - we'll need to look into this more deeply. This will need another collider no doubt. But this will tell us what the Higgs is (are?) made of, and explain everything.
Or maybe not. Perhaps the universe doesn't consist of 'fundamental particles' at all. The closer you look, the more complex it gets. This isn't a reason to stop looking, but it is probably a reason to stop claiming 'the answer' is just around the corner. And a good reason to discourage journalists writing about 'the God Particle' - unless of course you accept the Hindu perspective that denies that God/Gods are susceptible to earthly things like counting... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
As Stephen Hawking said in Brief History of Time .. it is Turtles all the way down http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
ploughman
06-15-2010, 01:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AndyJWest:
unless of course you accept the Hindu perspective </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Good God man, are you suggesting there may not be one single particle but a pantheon of them?
I'm off to drink some milk.