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Thisgamecouldbe
10-10-2006, 09:38 AM
We know of one (I forget his name) who gets assassined but, who are the others?
we also knows he kills some muslims.

"Bad guys in both sides of the fence"

Please post your speculations. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thisgamecouldbe
10-10-2006, 09:38 AM
We know of one (I forget his name) who gets assassined but, who are the others?
we also knows he kills some muslims.

"Bad guys in both sides of the fence"

Please post your speculations. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

N1NJAC3RB__-
10-10-2006, 09:44 AM
how the hell can we know??.... we dont have the game either http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Thisgamecouldbe
10-10-2006, 09:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">how the hell can we know??.... we dont have the game either </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can't.... That is why it is called speculation

spyda_444
10-10-2006, 11:13 AM
gosh i dont have a clue though i do know that the guy that gets assassinated is called william

AlexCrimson
10-10-2006, 11:23 AM
"They are The Nine, Nazgul, Ringwraiths, neither living nor dead."

Oh, you mean in the game? Okay... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I think if you look around that timeline's history you'll find some people of notable historical importance that you can assume reasonably are the targets. Of coarse this will create a whole new slew of threads based around historical figures of the time that died and if they will appear in the game or not. This will eventually piss off the mods who will start enforcing laws against making threads about "Is *name* one of your targets?!".

I will than start a thread about Alta¯r's love life and the vicious cycle will continue.

Sorry, I havent posted in a while. Had to make up for lost time. XD

Thisgamecouldbe
10-10-2006, 12:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">They are The Nine, Nazgul, Ringwraiths, neither living nor dead."

Oh, you mean in the game? Okay...

I think if you look around that timeline's history you'll find some people of notable historical importance that you can assume reasonably are the targets. Of coarse this will create a whole new slew of threads based around historical figures of the time that died and if they will appear in the game or not. This will eventually piss off the mods who will start enforcing laws against making threads about "Is *name* one of your targets?!". </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am almost surprised that no one said anything about the Nazgul before....

Someone do some research! On the people who got killed in 1191 A.D.

I will as soon as I am done...

spyda_444
10-10-2006, 01:12 PM
er...i am not sure but i have done a bit of research
this is what i have come up with ( dont really know anything about it )

Richard the Lionheart 1191 A.D.
In 1191 Isaakios Komnenos was the ruler of Cyprus. Richard the Lionheart organizes the First Crusade. He and his fleet were on the way to the Holy Land when one of his ships put into Limassol and his fiance Verengaria of Navarre was taken prisoner by Isaac Comnenos. Richard landed his army on the island and having looted whatever he found on his way, laid siege to Nicosia . He finally met and defeated Isaac at Tremetousia. Richard the Lionheart became ruler of the island but sold the island to the Templars.

The Templars ruled the island having bought it from Richard the Lionheart for 100.000 gold byzantiums. Their seat was the castle of Nicosia. On Easter day on the 11th of April 1192 the people of Nicosia revolted and drove the Teplars off the city. Having driven the Templars away, fearing their return the Nicosians demolished the castle of the city almost to its foundations.

The new fortifications by Julio Savorgnano
In 1567 the Venetians decided to fortify the city of Nicosia. This time Julio Savorgnano, brother of Ascanio arrives on the island. Savorgnano is an architect and engineer and he design new fortifications for the city according to contemporary defense methods.

€œ Savorgnano, who was a man of a lively and understanding spirit, took shipping as soon as ever he had his dispatches. Scarcely was he arrived on the island, but began to surround it, and view those places which most needed to fortified, with such an exact diligence as answered the good opinion the Senate had of him€.

€œHe thought at first to built new walls and raise new forts to the city of Nicosia, being the capital of the Kingdom, situated in the midst of the island, and was then about four miles in compass. The Nobility made their usual residence there, the Richest of the inhabitants rendered her the most wealthy and important place of all the country and had she been put in a capacity to sustain a siege, might have proved, by reason of its greatness most commodious for a retreat to the country-people in a time of war. Neither did the change, nor difficulty of the enterprise, which had always deterred the preceding governors, discourage Savorgnano€.

D. B. Lorrini, Delle Fortificationi, Venetia, 1597 AD.

The new walls have the shape of a star with eleven bastions. The heart shape design of the bastion is more suitable for the new artillery and a better control for the defenders. The walls have only three gates, to the North Kyrenia Gate, to the west Paphos Gate and to the east Famagusta Gate that is the larger and was also named Porta Julia in honor of the architect.

The new walls of Nicosia are considered as the prototype of the renaissance military architecture.

also Richard the Lionheart 1191 A.D.

if this is wrong i am gonna look like a BIG!!N00B!!

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Maximus1170
10-10-2006, 02:39 PM
Killing Muslims in this game wouldnt make any sense. The Hashashin worshiped a branch of the Muslim faith, so that almost rules all of the muslim rulers out (unless someone is spying for the christians). Christian Nobility makes way more sense, especially religious leaders, the Hashashin cultivated their terrifying reputation by killing in public and churches or mosques.
Hey, and if there are going to be more Assassins Creed games, why arent they calling this one "Assassins Creed, The New Doctrine" (the Hashashin called their cult al-da'wa al-jadida, which is arabic for the new doctrine)

Thisgamecouldbe
10-10-2006, 04:44 PM
The producer said that we will be killing bad guy on both sides of the fence, and if I remember correctly, Saladino (spelling?) was in control of Jerusalem in 1191 and made a pact with Richard Lion Heart, so it seems that the muslims had the upper hand at that time period, since the goal of the assassins (in the game) Is to end the war they would very likely kill muslims.

terminalShock09
10-10-2006, 05:23 PM
The Assassins did kill other muslims, and quite frequently. All you have to do is look at some parts of the world and you'll see people doing the same today.

Thisgamecouldbe
10-10-2006, 05:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The Assassins did kill other muslims, and quite frequently. All you have to do is look at some parts of the world and you'll see people doing the same today. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought so, can you please give me some historical reference? Thx.

The_Smo_Show
10-10-2006, 08:49 PM
I personaly belive this is at least one of them

Conrad of Montferrat, King of Jerusalem
Latin king of Jerusalem , marquis of Montferrat, a leading figure in the Third Crusade (see Crusades). He saved Tyre from the Saracens and became (1187) its lord. In 1189 he joined Guy of Lusignan at the siege of Akko, but a year later he sought to displace Guy as king of Jerusalem. To establish a claim to the crown he married Isabella, daughter of Amalric I. A compromise (1191) between the two men was short lived. Conrad was acknowledged as king, but a few days later he was assassinated

AlexCrimson
10-11-2006, 09:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The_Smo_Show:
I personaly belive this is at least one of them

Conrad of Montferrat, King of Jerusalem
Latin king of Jerusalem , marquis of Montferrat, a leading figure in the Third Crusade (see Crusades). He saved Tyre from the Saracens and became (1187) its lord. In 1189 he joined Guy of Lusignan at the siege of Akko, but a year later he sought to displace Guy as king of Jerusalem. To establish a claim to the crown he married Isabella, daughter of Amalric I. A compromise (1191) between the two men was short lived. Conrad was acknowledged as king, but a few days later he was assassinated </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cool, nice research.

It could be fun if you got to kill off Richard the Lionheart. Now there is a target I would rush to wipe out. ^^

Maximus1170
10-11-2006, 10:57 AM
Killing richard the Loinheart would be incredibly satisfying, but its a pleasure that probably won't be in this game. After Conrad of Montferrat was assassinated, Richards nephew married his widowed wife and soon retreated from Jerusalem realizing he had no chance of holding Jerusalem if he took it. He then tried and failed to invade Egypt (one of Saladins main supply bases). In September 1192, a settlement including a three year tuce with Saladin was agreed on by Richard. On his way back to England, his ship wrecked near Aquileia. He then tried to take a route through central Europe but was captured by his cousin, Henry of Saxony, before Christmas 1192 and wasn't released until 1194. After his release he went back to England and was killed in 1199 by Pierre Basile.

Thisgamecouldbe
10-11-2006, 01:23 PM
How did Saladino die?

I doubt we will kill Richard Lion Heart, but who knows...

Maximus1170
10-11-2006, 02:11 PM
I couldn't find "Saladino" but Saladin died 1193 in Damascus(the exact date is conflicted)and he was very ill for some time before his death, so he probably wont be a assassination victim. Unless Jade and her crew cooked up some amazing story about he really fell ill.
However, Hugh III of Burgundy helped Richard the Lionheart in the crusades and at one time was his most trusted ally. He played a major role in the capture of Acre in 1191. He died in Acre in 1192 (born in 1142)with no specific date or cause of death.
I think that Hugh is very possibly a leader that we kill. He fits the time and place. He has a reason to be killed, he is very close to Richard the Lionheart and he played a key role in conquering a port city. And he has no set way of death (that I have found so far).

Thisgamecouldbe
10-11-2006, 02:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I couldn't find "Saladino" but Saladin died 1193 in Damascus(the exact date is conflicted)and he was very ill for some time before his death, so he probably wont be a assassination victim. Unless Jade and her crew cooked up some amazing story about he really fell ill. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, thx, maybe an assassin poisoned him.....

Nah I doubt that but thx again for the info.

Maximus1170
10-11-2006, 03:10 PM
I think that I have found almost complete confirmation that Conrad of Montferrat will be a victim in this game.

Direct from wikipedia:

On 28 April 1192, only days after his kingship was confirmed by election, Conrad was assassinated in Tyre. It is said that one of the two Hashshashin responsible had entered Balian's household in Tyre some months previously, pretending to be a servant, in order to stalk his victim; the other may have similarly infiltrated Reginald of Sidon's or Conrad's own household.

This might also be an outline of a mission.

Heres a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balian_of_Ibelin (last paragraph of "Balian as king-maker, and the Third Crusade)

terminalShock09
10-12-2006, 12:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I thought so, can you please give me some historical reference? Thx. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, pretty much any Assassins book under the sun. Or do you mean an instance in which they killed muslims? The most famous attempt would be Saladin (tried once and they were thwarted, the second time they left a note)

"Conrad de Montferrat is also an interesting case. He gained the title King of Jerusalem after the city was taken, only through his wife Isabel, who was the half-sister of Baldwin IV. It was only a few days after his official crowning that Isabel was late from the bath house, prompting him to visit a close friend for a meal instead. As it happened, there were no leftovers to be had and Conrad headed back home. Two Assassins ambushed and stabbed him to death en route. The murder occured in 1192... Awfully close to 1191, isn't it?"
Not to blow my own horn or anything, but that's a bit of information I cooked up on July 4th (The 4th of July was actually when the decisive Battle of Hattin was fought, leading to the capture of Jerusalem later in the same year of 1187 by Saladin.... hm!)

kew414
10-12-2006, 02:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Theobald of Blois and Stephen of Sancerre died, and Frederick of Swabia also died on January 20, 1191. Henry of Champagne struggled with sickness for many weeks before recovering. Patriarch Eraclius also died some time during the siege, but the date is unknown. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Acre

You might have to kill some of these people... Jade did say somewhere that the people you assassinate did die in 1191, whether it was actually by assassination or not.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Maximus1170
10-12-2006, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kew414:
You might have to kill some of these people... Jade did say somewhere that the people you assassinate did die in 1191, whether it was actually by assassination or not. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The game is featured after the siege of Acre. Who was the leader of the Knights Templar in 1191?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

There are exceptions to everything, nothing is absolute.

AlexCrimson
10-13-2006, 11:32 AM
The leader of the Knights Templar between 1191 and 1193 was Robert de Sabl. He was also the Lord of Cyprus from 1191 to 1192, as well as being the Lord of La Suze and Briollay in Anjou, France prior to joining the order in 1191.

He may not be a target considering that the game is based in 1911. Which means the game would have to span 2 years or so for you to be the one to kill Robert.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Tobbe777
10-13-2006, 11:51 AM
1911? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Maximus1170
10-13-2006, 02:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AlexCrimson:
The leader of the Knights Templar between 1191 and 1193 was Robert de Sabl. He was also the Lord of Cyprus from 1191 to 1192, as well as being the Lord of La Suze and Briollay in Anjou, France prior to joining the order in 1191.

He may not be a target considering that the game is based in 1911. Which means the game would have to span 2 years or so for you to be the one to kill Robert. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Im acctually expecting this game to span across a few years so that there are more targets to eliminate. I know that Jade said that the key targets were all killed in 1191, but what happened before that. It would make sense not to just jump into killing major figures of the time and spend at least some time warming up to the big missions.

Who was the leader of the Hospitallers in 1191?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

There are exceptions to everything, nothing is absolute.

tisfortunesfall
10-13-2006, 03:19 PM
Remember in Oblivion when the guards see you attacking someone or when you attack the guards unprovoked they can sometimes be heard to say "by the nines divine", and what with both Oblivion and AC being set in the same sort of time period there might be a link.

terminalShock09
10-13-2006, 03:43 PM
By the same time period, you mean because they have chainmail and swords? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

tisfortunesfall
10-13-2006, 03:55 PM
Yeah castles, poor public sanitation and what not.

simulacra
10-13-2006, 05:32 PM
Actually, I dont think you get to kill conrad de montferrat, but in the demo we've all seen you kill his father, willian de montferrat, which supposedly died of disease in 1191.

From what jade said in one interview you'll only be active in 1191 (sic) and persons that died in that year might be "eligible" as in game targets, the creative license at work...

Yog1243
10-13-2006, 06:43 PM
Still Altair will be rewriting history in an effect. That menas he could make people that were going to die after 1191 go sooner.

I think another canidate could be KIng PhilipII of France.:

On March 30, 1191 the French set sail for the Holy Land, where they launched several assaults on Acre before King Richard I arrived (see Siege of Acre). By the time Acre surrendered on July 12, Philip was severely ill with dysentery and had little more interest in further crusading. He decided to return to France, a decision that displeased King Richard I, who said, "It is a shame and a disgrace on my lord if he goes away without having finished the business that brought him hither. But still, if he finds himself in bad health, or is afraid lest he should die here, his will be done." So on July 31, 1191 the French army remained in Outremer under the command of Hugues III, duke of Burgundy. Philip and his cousin Peter of Courtenay, count of Nevers, made their way to Genoa and from there returned to France.


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Maximus1170
10-18-2006, 02:11 PM
If he retreated, he wasnt engineering the crusades like the unknown targets that we do get to kill. In my mind, becuase of that, he's out.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

There are exceptions to everything, nothing is absolute.

suomursu
01-21-2007, 05:55 AM
Deaths on 1191 B.C...
March 20 - Frederick VI, Duke of Swabia (born 1167)
March 27 - Pope Clement III
William III of Montferrat, Burgundian crusader
all found in wikipedia -&gt; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1191
You might find some interesting events from that link too..

MDS_Geist
01-21-2007, 08:24 AM
The Nine are the group that is slightly larger than The Eight and slightly smaller than The Ten. However, they can field a regulation baseball team, an advantage they have over The Eight and The Ten are often torn apart by their internal pick-up basketball dynamics. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

As a historical note, if you're going to use the B.C./A.D. system of dating you should be aware that while B.C. comes after the date the A.D. comes before the date. So while it would 586 B.C. (referring to 586 years before the birth of Jesus) it would be A.D. 70 (referring to the year of our Lord 70).

Maximus, Islam is not monolithic and has a very violent history rife with internecine conflict. Bear in mind that Arab culture is a tribal culture and remains so to this day. If you wish to see an example of Muslims killing Muslims I would suggest you simply listen to the news. The Assassins were one sect, and while they generally stuck to killing Western kafir they often considered other Muslims to be just as bad. Again, history is being repeated.

Maximus1170
01-22-2007, 02:09 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> If you wish to see an example of Muslims killing Muslims I would suggest you simply listen to the news. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In modern times this is obvoiusly a common occurance as there is many wars between muslim nations. I acknowledge that. However, during the holy roman crusades, the muslims were more united on one enemy, the infidels, and had little time and/or soldiers to do war with people of the same faith. Now im not saying that a muslim never killed another muslim during this time period, but rather that there werent all out wars and there were not that many accounts of murder within the faith during the crusades.

Hyllus1980
01-23-2007, 03:09 AM
Didn't Nur ad-Din's son hired the hashashin to kill saladin twice and himself died under "misterios circumstances"

qoted form wikipedia:

"While he (saladin) was occupied in besieging Aleppo, on May 22, 1176 the elite shadowy assassin group "Hashshashins" attempted to murder him."

I doubt saladin is on the nine list but other muslims might olthough i can't come up with any name atm.

MDS_Geist
01-24-2007, 05:27 AM
Maximus, there were doctrinal and other intra-Muslims fights during the crusades just as there are today. It isn't a question of warring nations but more one of tribal culture. Islam is a synthesis of Arab tribalism with monotheism, and tribal cultures often have a great deal of ingroup/outgroup violence - this is certainly true among Arab tribes. Very rarely were there all out wars, but regular tribal conflicts haven't changed in the last few thousand years. Islam's rules on apostasy are quite clear, and some sects followed them quite rigidly just as people do today - being the "wrong kind" of Muslim is worse than being a kafir.

Maximus1170
01-24-2007, 11:47 AM
By "during the crusades", i meant when christians were attacking muslim held cities and estates (during war), like when this game is featured.

MDS_Geist
01-25-2007, 07:02 AM
The Crusades were over a period of several hundred years, and it wasn't one-sided. Nevertheless, it did very little to stop Muslims from killing other Muslims. The only time when Muslims were actually united was in the creation of the faith by Muhammad and shortly thereafter.

snatches
01-25-2007, 07:15 PM
Pope Urban III dies during the Third Crusade I think...

tailstriker
02-19-2007, 03:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hyllus1980:
Didn't Nur ad-Din's son hired the hashashin to kill saladin twice and himself died under "misterios circumstances"

qoted form wikipedia:

"While he (saladin) was occupied in besieging Aleppo, on May 22, 1176 the elite shadowy assassin group "Hashshashins" attempted to murder him."

I doubt saladin is on the nine list but other muslims might olthough i can't come up with any name atm. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

on the other hand, you get demoted from master assassin for failing to kill a target right?
so he could be a perfect "tutorial" sort of target.

DeAdLy2323
02-19-2007, 04:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Yog1243:
Still Altair will be rewriting history in an effect. That menas he could make people that were going to die after 1191 go sooner.

I think another canidate could be KIng PhilipII of France.:

On March 30, 1191 the French set sail for the Holy Land, where they launched several assaults on Acre before King Richard I arrived (see Siege of Acre). By the time Acre surrendered on July 12, Philip was severely ill with dysentery and had little more interest in further crusading. He decided to return to France, a decision that displeased King Richard I, who said, "It is a shame and a disgrace on my lord if he goes away without having finished the business that brought him hither. But still, if he finds himself in bad health, or is afraid lest he should die here, his will be done." So on July 31, 1191 the French army remained in Outremer under the command of Hugues III, duke of Burgundy. Philip and his cousin Peter of Courtenay, count of Nevers, made their way to Genoa and from there returned to France.


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you dont get it. he wont change history other then the way the people died. he wont make them go early because you will be assassinating them in the year they really did die. noone yoou kill will die after 1. because you just killed them and 2.you kill people that died the same day you kill them

tailstriker
02-19-2007, 08:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kew414:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Theobald of Blois and Stephen of Sancerre died, and Frederick of Swabia also died on January 20, 1191. Henry of Champagne struggled with sickness for many weeks before recovering. Patriarch Eraclius also died some time during the siege, but the date is unknown. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Acre

You might have to kill some of these people... Jade did say somewhere that the people you assassinate did die in 1191, whether it was actually by assassination or not.&lt;div class="ev_tpc_signature"&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.azupload.com/displayImage.php/setid7358.png
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stephen died in 1190 according to his page.
the others look like good choices though.

i might also add Philip of Alsace, who died on july 1st 1191 since he was a major player for the french. (although he died of an illness).

rahul911
02-19-2007, 11:36 PM
people, are we even sure that the nine will have the same names as their counter-parts. The looks may be same, but they will kost probably change the name, otherwise expect all priests n others to Go after UBI just lyk catholic church people did with Da Vinci Code.

noobfun
02-20-2007, 04:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rahul911:
people, are we even sure that the nine will have the same names as their counter-parts. The looks may be same, but they will kost probably change the name, otherwise expect all priests n others to Go after UBI just lyk catholic church people did with Da Vinci Code. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

yepp jade has stated they are all historical figures just the method of death has been changed

MDS_Geist
02-26-2007, 01:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rahul911:
people, are we even sure that the nine will have the same names as their counter-parts. The looks may be same, but they will kost probably change the name, otherwise expect all priests n others to Go after UBI just lyk catholic church people did with Da Vinci Code. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course, Dan Brown is a conspiracy nut who seems to have some serious issues with the Church. Hopefully not quite the same thing here! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

noobfun
03-02-2007, 05:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MDS_Geist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rahul911:
people, are we even sure that the nine will have the same names as their counter-parts. The looks may be same, but they will kost probably change the name, otherwise expect all priests n others to Go after UBI just lyk catholic church people did with Da Vinci Code. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Of course, Dan Brown is a conspiracy nut who seems to have some serious issues with the Church. Hopefully not quite the same thing here! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

well video games turn us all into mindless savage zombies with violent tendancies *cough lol cough* if you read the slightly flawed research carried out by certain US groups[please note a lack of sarcasm tags available for the word slightly], so why not add a little heresy to the mix lol

dan brown just wrote a good story, based on some wildly linked thoerys by the authors of 'holy blood, holy grail'

he didnt hate the church just liked the free publicity that made him more money

MDS_Geist
03-05-2007, 12:13 PM
Have you seen Dan Brown interviewed and asked about the Church? he tends to rant for a bit and seems to believe in some conspiracies. So I would again submit that he seems to have some serious issues with the Catholic Church.

He also wrote the same story - twice, with the same protagonist. It was better the first time, but didn't sell as well until the 2nd became popular.

XBfreak_101
03-21-2007, 09:31 PM
bump

zgubilici
03-21-2007, 09:42 PM
XBfreak_101, please do not bump threads (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5991081444#II).
Thanks.

Illuminatus_85
03-21-2007, 09:51 PM
^ brrrr! brrrr! It's cold in here there must be some zgubilici's in the atmosphere.

just kidding, you know you love me

AjaxSinclair
03-23-2007, 12:40 PM
spyda_444, liked the fact you put alot of work into what you wrote so I'm not knocking anything.
However in 1191 A.D. it was actuqally already the Third Crusade. But I appreciate the work done. THANKS

Ajax Sinclair

evasion438
03-25-2007, 03:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maximus1170:
Killing Muslims in this game wouldnt make any sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Developers Diary video one states that your missions include killing people on BOTH sides of the fence... correct me if i have specified the wrong fence.

ryukoken69
03-26-2007, 10:45 AM
There the ones who came before the tenth!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif
HA I kill me sometimes!!!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Randarkmaan
03-27-2007, 07:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Killing Muslims in this game wouldnt make any sense </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually it makes quite a lot of sense, especially seeing as the majority of their victims were muslims, sunni muslims mind you. The Assassins belonged to the Ismaili or Nizari sect of shi'ite Islam. Well to put it short, they terrorized most Sunni Muslims, also the Shi'ite Fatimids who ruled Egypt, as the namesake of their order was a son of a Fatimid caliph who did not become caliph, I think he was disposed of. Their main targets seem to have been the elite in Bagdhad, who obviously were muslim, but they also people other were, but mostly Muslims, though they did kill Latins (Crusaders) for an example Raymond of Tripoli's father. They supposedly "allied" themselves with the Templars at times.

Anyway the Muslims were about as united as the catholics in Europe, which means not very united at all. Saladin fought Muslims as much or more than he fought the crusaders and some cities and small emirates attempted to ally themselves with the Crusaders to have allies against Saladin.