No Future Solider for PC, Ubisoft cite Piracy.

[R0CKY]

PC Gamer interview Ghost Recon Online producer Sébastien Arnoult and the upshot is

"While Ghost Recon Online is exclusive to PC, Ubisoft’s other Ghost Recon game, Future Soldier, uses a traditional payment model and will only be available on console."

Important to note that the quote is from PC Gamer, and not a quote from Sébastien Arnoult.

Have PC Gamer got it wrong?!

[ecma4]

Thanks for sharing Rocky, it doesn't sound good, it'd great if we could get an official comment on this.

[bdr41]

Not going to buy on 360/PS3.

One lost sale.

[svenap835]

Why did they decide to do so? Due to the fact that the PC is often used pirated versions? They also enjoyed on consoles, and I saw no less. I honestly bought the products of interest to me and never used pirated versions of uninteresting. But it turns me on the fact accused of piracy just because I'm a PC user? Look's like it...
Prior to that more than a stupid statement I truly loved Ubisoft and playing their games. From now I don't trust to this company. Assassins Creed: Revelation will be the last game that I have bought from this studio. And judging by the reviews that I saw on the internet, I'm not the only one PC user who thinks so. Good luck Ubisoft. Make the game only on the console... After so stupid statements you PC sales will fall... For sure!

[noobasik2010]

do not destroy the long-awaited game for me because for a lot of PC piracy. many conscientious people. otherwise would, while not produced games such as battlefield 3 and modern warfare 3. I think you need to trust people and finish the PC version.
or to give the buyer an interesting gift

[DanHibikiFanXM]

This'll probably be the nail that seals the coffin on your PC fanbase if this is true Ubisoft. Not a criticism, just an observation.

[ecma4]

UBI seems to have confirmed it with Eurogamer now... http://www.eurogamer.net/artic...future-soldier-on-pc (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-11-24-no-ghost-recon-future-soldier-on-pc)

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[Improvizor]

It's really not everyday you see a company as stupid as Ubisoft. It amazes me how they still don't realize that they are responsible for piracy. If their games weren't shoddy ports people wouldn't have to pirate them to see if they'll actually work. And if they don't work, why the **** would they buy them? Give PC gamers a demo, or at least make games that work properly. And stop with the insane DRM. Look at Valve. They have more money then you and they make more money on PC than on consoles. Think about that for a second and ask yourself is there a possibility that you're doing something wrong.

One more thing. Do you really think it's a smart idea to alienate PC gamers now when this generation of consoles is near the end?

[jjknap]

While I do owne a WII and PS3, shooters I buy exclusively on PC. I probably own 100 ubisoft cames on console and PC. I never cared about drm as I always purchase my games; they could use what they wanted--I understood.

However, I am insulted by the "excuse" of piracy they use to justify not bringing this game to PC. I will not be playing the free online game, and I am done with Ubisoft games, console and PC.

[DanHibikiFanXM]

Hahaaaaa...man. So it's been confirmed by two sources. I've never seen a company do this kind of thing before. Ignoring the straight up lie that FS was "never announced for PC" it's something else to insult the fanbase that made the Tom Clancy games a success in the first place.

Incredible. Have fun convincing gamers to play GRO!

[Soulid_Snake]

Just to be dead certain, if in any doubt:

http://www.cinemablend.com/gam...oldier-PC-37270.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Ubisoft-Says-Ghost-Recon-Future-Soldier-PC-37270.html)

[ecma4]

Antoine said this on twitter:


Don't believe all rumours you can read on the Internet. Official information is always better. #GRFS

[daniel_gervide]

Ghost Recon Online senior producer Sebastien Arnoult, to PC Gamer, explained:

"When we started Ghost Recon Online we were thinking about Ghost Recon: Future Solider; having something ported in the classical way without any deep development, because we know that 95 per cent of our consumers will pirate the game.

Are you ****ing kidding me? If it's higher then 30% then slap my face dude -.-'' Ubisoft is death for me, i'm going to pirate AcR and Ac3...

And just read this carefully ubisoft, i pirated assassin's creed 1 just to see how the game was, when i finished it my first time i BOUGHT it, that's what pc gamers do when they like a game so much.

Keep doing things like this and in 2 years u will have no sales. PC Gaming is reborning since Ps3 and Xbox360 are getting old, we will lead the market again and you will sell nothing in PC. Valve and EA Games will have profit and u will close!

WE ARE THE PAST, THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE...
WE ARE PC GAMERS.
WE ARE THE WINNERS!

[svenap835]

Originally posted by daniel_gervide:

WE ARE THE PAST, THE PRESENT AND THE FUTURE...
WE ARE PC GAMERS.
WE ARE THE WINNERS!

Amen!

[Yukoney]

Maybe if they cared about making a decent game instead of releasing half-finished crap like H.A.W.X. 2 and punishing legit buyers, then they wouldn't complain about piracy.

[buzzcocks]

Meh, at least it saves us the cost of buying it and the disappointment of playing it.

[THS-RAMPAGE]

I just don't give a fck about this series anymore.
Ghost recon online looks like the gayest 3rd person bs I have ever seen. Gl with that LOL

[ecma4]

IGN is saying its cancelled now too. http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1213362p1.html

[Meridian113]

Battlefield 3 and Modern Warfare 3 are the most pirated games and still they are sold in over 10 millions togather besides piracy
So UBISOFT stop blame piracy for everything.
Please say that you hate PC and go make game for consoles only.
I love Ghost Recon alot and this thing with Future Soldier makes me sad and turned me away from you guys

[spm1138]

Well.

No great surprise here.

This has basically been how things have been going since Ghost Recon 2, isn't it?

Crying piracy at this point is hilariously unconvincing though.

Now, no complaint about you guys wanting a piece of the F2P pie.

You've let EA take the risks and they've made a success of it with BF:H and BF:P2W (Pay-2-Win).

What you need to understand though is that you're dealing with two different demographics for P2W and traditional games.

I play Battlefield games religiously but I am not gonna touch the P2W games with a ten foot bargepole because I find the very concept of "Gold Ammo" or wtfever aggravating. It just rubs my competitive side the wrong way.

I am far, far, far from alone in this.

Your P2W product is just not catering to a lot of the PC shooter demographic.

I actually suspect Ubi's diminishing sales on PC have a lot more to do with the diminishing quality of product they're putting out than with piracy.

I'm actually glad that Ubisoft have decided not to release another B title on PC. It was just getting embarrassing watching a once publishing powerhouse on my platform ****ting themselves in public month after month.

[dexfx69]

Ubisoft....what a major PR blunder. You're alienating what small faithful PC buyers/fanbase you still have. The stupidity of man sometimes if unbelievable!

[THS-RAMPAGE]

I thought they had control of piracy with Rainbow six 3 MULTIPLAYER with HAVING A CD KEY. IN ORDER TO PLAY THE GAME ONLINE. FORGET LAN, HAVE SERVICE THAT LOCKS IN YOUR CODE, and ONLY YOUR ACCOUNT CAN PLAY.
EA and STEAM do this very well. Multiplayer is usually the reason for people even buying the games anyway.

THIS GAME LOOKS STUPID FOR PC VERSION ANYWAY
I DON'T WANT STUPID UAV DRONES AND CHEATING OVERLOOKING 3RD PERSON VIEWS, NO THNX NEVER WAS MY STYLE ANYWAY.

Ghost recon was dead after the 2nd wasn't released for PC.

GHOST RECON ONLINE IS JUSS PLAIN RETAAARTEEEEEED
NO THNX NO THNX NO THNX UBI I NO LONGER EVEN WANT THE GAME THAT MADE THE COMPANY (UBISOFT)

[COMMANDOBLACK]

This is what I think had happened.

1. Ubissoft could not compete with the COD's and BF's of those years. They have held this game down for years now, and have lost huge, if not a bunch of money on this game. They are now trying to get paid off of this project that they've put money into, but could not find a decent window or time to drop it in.

Everytime they got ready to drop it, they had to move thier game back once more. I think that they were afraid of getting a little piece of the pie from the consumers in a saturated gaming market, but that is when good games shine, and if the game is garbage, than it deserves to be lost in the crowd.

I think this was bad luck, bad timing or just bad planning from UBISOFT. They were trying to get clear window but every game publisher was moving out of the way of MW2, and then BLACK OPS. I do not think that UBISOFT was ready to deal with the CODs every year. You can tell that the company had no strategy for it atcept sit back and weather the storm of it for 2 years.

You have a clear window now, look at the time they are releasing GRFS in, there is not a competing title in that month. But how much money did you loose to get to that window, and how much do you expect to recoup from those 2 years of loss revenue on that investment. They are really looking forward to that nice open window, so that they can get as much money as they posibly can off of this sevearly late title. Not to mention you lied to me about a beta that I would get, only if I bought your game.

I guess shame on me for being the sucker of Ubisoft. Ubisoft to me, it shows that you try to be slick and cunning, but are weak and dumb founded as a company to compete in the days of COD's and BF's. I'm wondering if the new RB6 is just really alot of hot air for publicity to try and get your companies name back out there into the gaming scene again.

I do still feel that your company KNEW, that your game could not compete with the COD's and the BF's of the past 2 years. That to me alone shows me that you KNEW right off the back, that your product was inferior to the rest of the triple a titles being released those past few years. Which brings up a good point of how your company budets for the development of games. Is your company being way too cheap in development process? Or is it just that your developing studios truly have nothing on the market that is really worth buying at this time in the NEW FPS MARKET of today?

This would be the other reason why you scaled back the future soldier to be more line with the modern shooters of today. Intead of going ahead with a bit inovation you folded, thinking lets just try to focus on recouping something back from this lost revenue. And I bet you will try to charge out the nose for DLC. Why would I think your company would do anything less!?!

You use to be one of my favorite companies, but sice you do not serve the PC community any more with decent games, just wastfull ports I had to endure. Oh yeah you called me a thief or a PIRATE too. So you have shown me that you do not need me as a customer.

I would like to say this, I feel upset that I spent my hard earned money on your GARBAGE PORT of a game. And YES I PAID FOR ALL OF MY PC COPIES, THEY WERE OF THE LOWEST QUALITY OF GAMES, BUT I PAID FULL PRICE FOR Endwar, Rainbow 6 vegas 1/2 and FARCRY 2. That is well over 200 dollars, 54 dollars to 64 dollars a pop, including tax.

I do not care to buy anymore games from you as I see you do not take care of your customers. So I will always look at your games as too cheap to do it right and as being non worthy crap to me. But just to let you know, other companies are making a killing off of the pc crowd.

BF3 made a sh1t ton of money off of PC. Even MW3 made some good money off of the PC players. What I believe is you can't AFORD TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO THIS LOST GAME. This is why the PC game was taken off. It is because you lost too much money on it and could not afford the server cost to run it. But you blamed it on Piratecy while trying to feed us some FREE TO PLAY BULLSH1T. Yeah I get it. But keep a look out for those new unsuspecting customer, because your going to need a whole bunch of NEW SUCKERS to buy your half az, games. Good luck with that.

Not a customer of yours ANY MORE
AKA COMMANDO BLACK

[ecma4]

Things get more and more ridiculous each day, head over to GhostRecon.net (http://ghostrecon.net/) for a picture of PC box art in-store at EBGames for pre-order.

[spm1138]

I would like to say this, I feel upset that I spent my hard earned money on your GARBAGE PORT of a game. And YES I PAID FOR ALL OF MY PC COPIES, THEY WERE OF THE LOWEST QUALITY OF GAMES, BUT I PAID FULL PRICE FOR Endwar, Rainbow 6 vegas 1/2 and FARCRY 2. That is well over 200 dollars, 54 dollars to 64 dollars a pop, including tax.

Seconding this.

I have been a Ubi customer for years.

I've been buying Ubi games since plain old R6 on PC.

I even paid for Lockdown.

[Ubi-Mush]

Please be aware no official announcements have been made regarding the PC version.

[AlHudsonFX]

I was expecting GRFS since their announcement and now this...

[ecma4]

Originally posted by Ubi-Mush:
Please be aware no official announcements have been made regarding the PC version.

Hi Mush, thanks for addressing that much, but really that's the whole issue here.

[Chottan]

ubisoft do not make parciality with pc and other consoles if u do not release it for pc then the pc users will be angry and do not play ur games http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

[cybersidd]

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Meekx]

Don't care about the game, would probably just be another bad port by Ubi - So nothings lost.

But! I've been a player since the late eighties. Never downloaded a game before, hundreds of titles, payed in cash (not including Steam games) Only used cracks to bypass lousy machine wrecking drm, like starforce.

To be perfectly honest, after paying for games the last years - wich where nothing but shoddy ports (And aye, I allso payed for Lockdown)I'm done, cba with beeing urinated up and down the back, by "people" like that - And none the less, beeig called a Thief by default.

I'll vote with my wallet, and ignore Ubisoft from this day forward - Handing my money to the people who deserves it.

Gl, hope the ground's consumed below your feet, for slapping PC gamers in their faces with such words and innuendoes

[R0CKY]

Originally posted by ecma4:
Antoine said this on twitter:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Don't believe all rumours you can read on the Internet. Official information is always better. #GRFS </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All this hoohaa is because of an official interview with PC Gamer, not rumour.... unless the PC Gamer interview is bogus.

[ElitesamuraI26]

UBI****S

[kalenath]

Well, we know the game is dead.

We know that Ubisoft couldn't care less about it's customers in general and PC players in particular.

We know that they will NOT answer our questions.

Why do we hang around here?

Me? I am hoping for a miracle and actually enjoy pounding the idiots and fanboys who keep saying that Ubisoft gives a rat's ***.

[BSR_RuGGBuTT]

UBI did the same with GR2. Produced only for console. It's easier. The PC gamers that made UBI rich became the red headed step children of the gaming world, and UBI is ignoring the PC like it has the HIV. Fact of the matter is UBI couldn't make a good FPS if it's life depended on it. They don't listen to the PC gamers and have clue what we want. And even if they did they don't care. I've been done with UBI for years, but it's nice to stop in and see the outrage that is happening. More and more PC gamers are coming to the realization that UBI is only interested in producing console games. Time to get over it. Ghost Recon is dead. Has been for years.

[ImperialDane]

Originally posted by Ubi-Mush:
Please be aware no official announcements have been made regarding the PC version.

Perhaps not. But hey, if you look at the official ubisoft store's Ghost recon site.. Guess what you DO NOT see : A A PC version (http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/da_DK/pd/ThemeID.8605700/productID.225361100/Tom-Clancys-Ghost-Recon-Future-Soldier.html)

[ecma4]

Originally posted by ImperialDane:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ubi-Mush:
Please be aware no official announcements have been made regarding the PC version.

Perhaps not. But hey, if you look at the official ubisoft store's Ghost recon site.. Guess what you DO NOT see : A A PC version (http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/da_DK/pd/ThemeID.8605700/productID.225361100/Tom-Clancys-Ghost-Recon-Future-Soldier.html) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Worse yet it use to be there and they removed it, while at the same time scrubing all record of the PC version from marketing. This is about the same time they not so subtly said "We've never announced a PC version" when they had clearly been mentioning it for years.

[kalenath]

Yep, its a retcon.

They cancelled the PC version and are now trying to say it never existed despite TELLING many people to expect it on PC. For most of the development of the game, it was listed as available for PC as well as console. Now? They are cutting their losses I guess.

I really don't get Ubisoft. How hard is it to SAY 'We cancelled the PC version'?

Oh, wait... That would be polite and require that they give a flying **** what their customers think or want. This is Ubisoft we are talking about, not a REPUTABLE game publishing company.

Bets on how long until they cancel the CONSOLE version? If they keep screwing things up, no one is going to buy it.

[BLaZiNgSPEED]

Not good to hear. I wasn't really looking forward to this game, tbh. But I hate the fact that Ubisoft changed their mind. I might've bought it, if it turned out to be good.

I hope this game isn't very good when it releases on consoles. Then at least I won't regret that it was canceled on PC.

I hope Ubisoft won't make the same decision with Far Cry 3 next year!
I am very disappointed. Hence why I so rarely come on these forums too...Ubisoft have no games to really offer, little to discuss..

[joshholloway18]

tbh,i trusted ubisoft games n i luve them so much bt nw it disgust me to see this forum grfs not on pc!!!?? you n your racism towards pcs!! that is jus n excuse cuz ubi tinks that pc cnt handle a straight up game like grfs lol...erm actually scc is a perfect bloody example.

<span class="ev_code_RED">Language Please</span>

[joshholloway18]

hey guys bt why is it that the official site still has that pc logo?? im puzzled by it too...pls reply anyone???

[Aj6627]

I love the quick denial by the people here to insulate us from the dev team.

As far as I know, PC Gamer isn't in the habit of fabricating interviews with devs. It could kind of lead to them being sued and shut down.

So, this leaves us with two options: the dev is lying, or the community insulators are lying. I'm inclined to believe the latter.

As to the piracy, I think this is just a cheap way out of making a lazy, bug ridden port for the PC.

If they put proper time into a PC version of the game, I'm sure it would do quite well with SALES. Look at ArmA for example. They just, as usual, want a quick buck without having to support the game longer than 6 months. (that's been their MO for the past few Clancy games on console)

This is a sign that either their draconian DRM on PC failed, or they just don't care about PC gamers. Or both.

They obviously forget who made the GR and R6 games popular. (Hint: it wasn't consoles)

[sandtheman]

well well they did have it for pc i did payed for a pc Pre-Order and i have a bill saying i have payed for it on there own site hope they well give my mony back and i well never play or buy a ubi-soft game again if they done honerate my pre-order

i have all GR and RB6 too but well trash them
so ubi you get what you ask for only console player will buy your games form now on and us PC player well buy from good companies that listen too its fans

[Black_Widow9]

Originally posted by joshholloway18:
tbh,i trusted ubisoft games n i luve them so much bt nw it disgust me to see this forum grfs not on pc!!!?? you n your racism towards pcs!! that is jus n excuse cuz ubi tinks that pc cnt handle a straight up game like grfs lol...erm actually scc is a perfect bloody example.

<span class="ev_code_RED">Language Please</span>
Hello and welcome to the Forums http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Txt Speak is not allowed so please post so others can read it.
Thanks

[kalenath]

Originally posted by sandtheman:
well well they did have it for pc i did payed for a pc Pre-Order and i have a bill saying i have payed for it on there own site hope they well give my mony back and i well never play or buy a ubi-soft game again if they done honerate my pre-order

i have all GR and RB6 too but well trash them
so ubi you get what you ask for only console player will buy your games form now on and us PC player well buy from good companies that listen too its fans

And they should care...WHY?

It's not their problem that people are stupid enough to trust them.

If it is a preorder that was with credit card, then the sale likely has not gone through. If it was cash? You are probably screwed.

That IS the Ubi way after all. Lie, cheat and steal. They are a game publisher, they can do things like that and get away with it.

Thing like ethics, customer relations, and other such quaint notions used to be important to Ubisoft. Now? Take the money and run!

[Mr-J]

Personally, I can't believe the 95% piracy rate.

I'm an old man, I don't use PS3, X-Box, or Wii. I don't do online games, DRM, OSP, or Uplay. I buy my Ghost Recon games for the PC and I play them again and again and have for years. I have purchased other games, including games from Ubi, but the only one I really like is the Ghost Recon franchise.

I did see something to the effect that Ubi would remove the OSP requirement at a later date. So I guess I'll have to wait until GRFS is old and unwanted by you younger guys, or until Ubi removes their heads from their collective arses, before I can buy a game that I can play, installed on my computer without requiring the disc in the drive, by myself, connected or not.

Obviously, they don't make a ton of money from the likes of me, but we old geezers do buy products rather than stealing them.

[mossco]

I came across this news a few days ago. I'm all for a PC release of Future Soldier. I think the online version as it stands is not the way forward in this regard. MMO's are not the future of PC gaming as of two reasons. 1) you need to CONSTANTLY update content to keep people interested in the game. 2) You exclude the sole single player gamer, which makes up 50% of the PC market.

MMO's like Eve and WoW only work because their worlds are vast, persistent digital realms that gamers can travel around freely and explore. The developers have to keep on their toes and invest alot of money to keep that level of interest fresh and up to date. They are different to online shooters with monthly micro transactions. Alot of these type of games don't do too well unless its something fully contained. Take for example: Counter Strike: Source, where all the game data is there AND it has the option to be completely modifiable by gamers in the modding community. Not only that, there is a solid single player component with decent AI Bots that give other gamers who have bad or no internet connection the ability to play offline.

What you do in this regard is say to the PC gamer "Here is the key to this world and all the tools to make it better, go and show me what you can do with it." You sell the game as a skeleton, just the essentials. And to keep down piracy you do it for an affordable price, say $30 US per game with all the tools included, not just through UBI.com but also through Steam and other digital download providers. The Counter Strike: Source model would be the model to follow with GR:O. You go that one step further to give gamers a persistently enriching experience by allowing them to create worlds that equal the original in every way possible. All Ubisoft needs to do is make sure the game as a whole is up to date and bug free rather than provide new 'content', which is time consuming. You let the gamers create that for other players. As proof of Counter Strikes resilience and popularity, here's the URL for player stats on Steam. That's not bad for a series of Games that were made in 2000 for Original Counter Strike and 2004 for CS:S. Team Fortress 2 is another of similar type.

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

That said, Counter Strike is another type of game to Ghost Recon, not the same. The run and gun style is completely different to the slower paced tactical shooter style of Ghost Recon. The closest any 'game' came to Ghost Recon was a MOD for the Source Engine called NeoTokyo.

http://www.neotokyohq.com/

Neotokyo seemed to take on both elements of Counter Strike and Ghost Recon. It was, though, plagued by a limited amount of interest in it that lasted for a solid 6 months before gamers started to fall away. It was shortly after this time that the developers released the tools to create new maps but by then, the interest had waned to where it is now - Dead.

As for the topic of Future Soldier, the future of gaming does lay with Digital download services like Origin and Steam for example. With their proprietary DRM in place, I doubt that piracy is an issue with these systems as the penalty for piracy is a lifetime ban for the few who are silly enough to do as such. There is no legitimate reason for piracy, people do it because they can fullstop. That is the only excuse. It occurs on every type of system, consoles included. And yes, it is prolific. But I doubt the 95% figures are true. That is preposterous and a genuine 'kick in the teeth' insult towards PC gamers. Where is the empirical evidence to back up this claim?

But the irony of the comments in PC Gamer magazine is this. If the rate of piracy is supposedly so high, why have the new Rainbow Six and Far Cry 3 been slated for a PC release still? And lets face it, these games are as close to Ghost Recon as you can get. You slate these games for PC release but there is no "official news", (according to UBI Mush) of a PC release of Future Soldier?!? By your logic, in terms of the view of PC gamers being pirates, shouldn't that mean that from now on you will release a limited library of online only games for PC gamers loosely based around your original franchises to "Meet the demands" and counter this widespread threat of online piracy that lurks in the shadows, waiting to bring your company to its knees at a moments notice?

Somehow I don't think so, it's all hot-air baloney. The issue over piracy for a game that hasn't been released yet is moot and nobody likes an organisation or people who play the victim card when its unwarranted. Let's be honest for a moment and call a spade a spade - your company made losses this year because the games released weren't 'that' good. The Clancy franchise are the money makers for you here. You have no legitimate reason to not release Future Soldier on the PC, or any console exclusive title for that matter.

Issues like these are interconnected and it feels like a game of "So Long, Sucker" being played out with your customers. In a nutshell, your actions to the consumers determine the consumers reactions and behaviour to you. And in turn, their reactions counter your initial responses to them if the actions from the source (ie you) is a betrayal of trusting them in the first place (the issue with implementing Uplay is a perfect example) which results in some consumers acting out rebelliously (ie piracy, though lets be clear, piracy existed before but the initial behaviour from the source exacerbates it). This negative energy moves back and forth which snowballs and ergo 'justifies' a feeling of distrust, pessimism and rivalry for each party. A feeling that should never exist between the two in the first place. Anyone with an economics/business degree will tell you that that is NOT how you speak about and treat your loyal customers and supporters! They are not your enemies.

As the ones who made the first move, it is your responsibility and duty to go into damage control and reverse your actions to win that trust over with your customers and supporters. No, you can't stop piracy. It's a futile cause to fight with DRM. It's here, it happens on the PC aswell as Xbox360 and PS3, and it wont go away. But you can reduce it if you give the public your trust and a healthy respect for their opinions. Make the public WANT your game, support them and it and they will reciprocate as you would like them to in turn.

[Nism100]

They did it because they cant be arsed to make a simple bloody game, focusing on new Kinect features instead of the game itself. For a company who started with PC games this is poor and 95% certainly dont illegally use and if that is Ubis excuse, i dont wanna buy another one of their games and I certainly wont waste time on ghost recon online which aint a touch on future soldier. Ubi can go ***** themselfs for this

[BLaZiNgSPEED]

It is coming to PC.
Every company will cite piracy as a problem. Ubisoft are no exception. I am glad that that it is finally coming on PC. Cos if you think about it, other companies like let's say EA Sports don't want to make the sports games for PC, only FIFA and FIFA Manager. They have their point.

Imo, it would've been a mistake if GRFS was cancelled for PC. Because FPS games are best on PC. Look at Battlefield 3 for example it's been designed for the PC with 64 players exclusive support.
A game that's more suitable for keyboard and mouse compared to gamepad will sell!! Even console gamers will buy it for the PC instead, if their PC can run it of-course.

[Mr_Shade]

As the game is coming to pc - I think this thread has run it's course.

locking thread - for a good reason for a change :)