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JG52_Manteo
07-23-2005, 10:18 PM
I had an idea about an airline pilot and I came up with this one. Its an attempt to see memories of a very old airline pilot. I can't seem to get good quality but I am trying. It took me a long time to make this movie but the quality is still crappy but please feel free to give me a good smackin. I can take any critique. Its less than 3 min.
http://rockwolfe.com/images/Flashback1.mpg

JG52_Manteo
07-23-2005, 10:18 PM
I had an idea about an airline pilot and I came up with this one. Its an attempt to see memories of a very old airline pilot. I can't seem to get good quality but I am trying. It took me a long time to make this movie but the quality is still crappy but please feel free to give me a good smackin. I can take any critique. Its less than 3 min.
http://rockwolfe.com/images/Flashback1.mpg

AerialTarget
07-23-2005, 10:34 PM
Good idea, but I think you should start with a real airliner and not that atrocity which I am guessing is from Macrocruft "Flight Simulator."

The music absolutely needs to go, or at least be replaced by something less upbeat. That's not exactly the sort of mood I'd be in if I were recollecting my wartime experiences, unless I were a really, really self-assured, arrogant jerk.

The fight itself wasn't too good, either. Also, don't ever use wide shots - they look very unnatural due to the warping which no human will see without wearing glasses. In fact, if you can, use only zoomed shots, except for in the cockpit.

JG52_Manteo
07-23-2005, 10:57 PM
Umm, ok. I'll just toss it.

Monty-Dan
07-24-2005, 05:10 AM
Hi Manteo,

Liked the idea of the "flash back" and i think in general the only thing that killed it as Aerial said was the music. IMO you should have used something a little more serious for the dog fight scene to keep in with the mood of the airline pilots face shot which was very serious.

The pase of the movie is also very difficult to get right, but i feel if you are making a short movie as this one the dogfight scene should have had many more shots, in general a good rule is 3-4 seconds per shot with as much camera angle and camera distance from object variations as possible.

If i were you i would not bin it but remake it even if it is for your eyes only, with a new muisc track and camera angles etc, then compare the two, after all its only a short movie.

All the best
Monty-Dan

Joe-90
07-24-2005, 07:32 AM
Not bad, Manteo, for starting out. You had a good idea there. I assume you realise the music was a bad choice by now, lol!

The dogfight was a bit slow, and it's not really clear how the fight was developing.

But I like your attempt at using real sounds, spot on for some shots, a bit quiet in others (hey, I have still to try this, and am not looking forward to the extra effort, so nice one!)

Finally, you will get better quality if you use some Antiliasing in your 3D setup.

Stick in there Manteo!

JG52_Manteo
07-24-2005, 09:01 AM
I am trying to delete this movie link but my FTP is down right now so my atrocious film will have to be exposed to the public until it is back up.

Joe-90
07-24-2005, 10:09 AM
lol, hey manteo, a lot of us would like to expunge our first attempts (now what's my danmed ftp password!)

Vike
07-24-2005, 10:09 AM
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AerialTarget
07-26-2005, 12:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JG52_Manteo:
Umm, ok. I'll just toss it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, no! I'm sorry; I seem to have only mentioned the negatives, since I assumed that the positives were obvious (in short, everything but what I pointed out).

What I would suggest is doing a remake, possibly with a more decisive soundtrack. I recommend something relatively quiet and not very dramatic sounding, as it is a flashback and the action is long over. The problem with your music selection is that, while period appropriate, it gives off a "jaunty" feel. The mood is one of, "I'm a hot shot!" And that does not coincide with the general feeling of the film. I don't know what you wanted the mood to be, but if you want to change the film to match the music instead of the other way around, then you should put a smirk on the face of the old pilot instead of a serious, intense look.

As for the dogfight, my problem with it was that there were continuity problems. In one scene, an airplane is doing something, and when the camera changes, it is doing something completely different, with a large, inexplicable gap in the fight. Also, it seems to me that the movie was made using the old flight model. Lastly, the stall behavior of the Mustang seems to be off - not at all your fault, rather the game, but something you don't want to record if you can help it.

Your shots were, with the exception of the warping effect due to the wide shots, quite good. These, and the concept and story, is what gives this film much potential. In fact, barring the music, it is very decent as it is. Remade with our points in mind, it should be beautiful.

Tooz_69GIAP
07-26-2005, 12:50 AM
I didn't get this one. Anyone care to share?

JG52_Manteo
07-26-2005, 06:20 PM
Thats ok Aerial, Thanks for the advice and critique, but I think I will have to hang-up the movie making for a while anyway. It is too adicting and time consuming. I almost got hung for working on it the morning of my anniversary and I am retiring from the army soon and I am in transition mode and way too busy. So,
Take care.

GvSAP_Dart
07-27-2005, 09:03 PM
Bah, making bad movies never stopped me!

The secret is to make MORE bad movies!

After you make 25 or so of them, people will think you're serious about it, and embrace you into the Community of Virtual Filmmakers.

Really. It's true.

Well, at least it worked for me!

96th_Nightshifter
07-28-2005, 06:06 AM
lol Dart