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Epicurus_13
05-25-2005, 05:47 PM
Here's a link to the amazing but highly commercialized site HowStuffWorks.com with a nice movie demonstrating the principles of a standard lock, as well as a number of short articles on such relevant topics as LOCKPICKING!

http://home.howstuffworks.com/lock.htm

I found that reading the article on lockpicking helped me undertsand what exactly I'm seeing when I pick a lock in SC, so that's nice - plus., it gives you the theory needed to pick one yoruself, with a little practice and a tension wrench.

Also, there's a brief but useful article on how motion sensors work, included here. I have always wondered how motions sensors detect motion, and I was surprised to learn that they actually detect infrared light, like the kind used by your remote control. Details at the site:

http://home.howstuffworks.com/burglar-alarm2.htm

All right, that's it. If you read one of the articles, check out the further links and look for something interesting - the site covers everything.

Annnd, just to make sure that this thread is not off-topic, anyone care to speculate on the rumour of an easter egg in Rivermall? sounds phony to me, but then again, I can't check for it right now (no xbox in my current apartment!) so I'll have to rely on the kindness of strangers...

Epicurus_13
05-25-2005, 05:47 PM
Here's a link to the amazing but highly commercialized site HowStuffWorks.com with a nice movie demonstrating the principles of a standard lock, as well as a number of short articles on such relevant topics as LOCKPICKING!

http://home.howstuffworks.com/lock.htm

I found that reading the article on lockpicking helped me undertsand what exactly I'm seeing when I pick a lock in SC, so that's nice - plus., it gives you the theory needed to pick one yoruself, with a little practice and a tension wrench.

Also, there's a brief but useful article on how motion sensors work, included here. I have always wondered how motions sensors detect motion, and I was surprised to learn that they actually detect infrared light, like the kind used by your remote control. Details at the site:

http://home.howstuffworks.com/burglar-alarm2.htm

All right, that's it. If you read one of the articles, check out the further links and look for something interesting - the site covers everything.

Annnd, just to make sure that this thread is not off-topic, anyone care to speculate on the rumour of an easter egg in Rivermall? sounds phony to me, but then again, I can't check for it right now (no xbox in my current apartment!) so I'll have to rely on the kindness of strangers...

jchung
05-25-2005, 05:59 PM
I had a pair of lock picks once, but they didn't look anything like the picks you see in SC. I used to scare everyone in this one company I used to work for by opening all of the locks.

With the new multilocks that are out now, I don't see how anyone could pick those.

Interesting bit on the motion sensors. Never really knew how those worked.

r3be1
05-25-2005, 10:07 PM
well then there is no way past motion sensors? since they rember the normal patern and if something changes it will sound the alarm...

walk slowly infront of those garadge lights...soo much fun to see how close you can get ...usually not very, but fun anyway :-P

rikakiah
05-25-2005, 10:32 PM
Shining a light source at the common household motion sensor (ie those for the lights in front of your garage) will keep them from going off. A laser pointer works great--trouble is, you've still got to walk REALLY slowly just to keep the beam focused on the sensor... However, I guess if you've got a buddy or mount the laser somewhere, it'd work great.

jchung
05-26-2005, 07:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rikakiah:
Shining a light source at the common household motion sensor (ie those for the lights in front of your garage) will keep them from going off. A laser pointer works great--trouble is, you've still got to walk REALLY slowly just to keep the beam focused on the sensor... However, I guess if you've got a buddy or mount the laser somewhere, it'd work great. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice to know, just in case I ever need to sneek up on a friend's house. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BiG_FaT_SpErM
05-26-2005, 10:02 AM
LOL nice stuff, not that i need to know how to pick a lock, just find whos got a key and steal it from them

rikakiah
05-26-2005, 09:16 PM
Yeah. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I have a green laser and it's pretty stinking bright, so I don't know if it'll work with a normal red one. Don't see why not--it may have to keep the beam more exact on the sensor, though...

jchung
05-27-2005, 07:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rikakiah:
Yeah. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I have a green laser and it's pretty stinking bright, so I don't know if it'll work with a normal red one. Don't see why not--it may have to keep the beam more exact on the sensor, though... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What is the difference from the green and the read laser? Are you just talking about the brightness, or do the colors indicate a difference in the spectrum?

rikakiah
05-27-2005, 12:33 PM
The power is the same (&lt;5mW), but it's based on a different wavelength (my green one is 532nm...red ones are around 630-650nm). I think smaller wavelengths equate to a brighter light. Not sure on the concept behind this, but the 635nm red ones claim to be brighter than a 645nm one. I'd guess this is due to more efficient crystals. I just know my green one is CONSIDERABLY brighter than my brother's red one, under any condition. The human eye is more perceptive to green as well, so that helps its visibility, I'm sure. During daylight, I can get a visible dot on our neighbors house across our back yard (20-30yds). Early evening I can see the dot on the house across the street from them (about 80yds). But, the coolest thing is, in darkness, you can literally see the entire beam. I use the thing in place of a flashlight all the time.

Incidently, the place I ordered mine from has green ones with much higher power outputs (up to 80-90mW, I believe). Of course, you need some sort of permit or something to get these, but their highest power one has a visible beam in broad daylight and a range of 40 miles. Based on the performance of my little one, I'd believe any claims this website made about their higher powered ones. I believe the site is http://www.wickedlasers.com, if you'd like to check them out.

jchung
05-27-2005, 04:25 PM
40 miles eh? How did you get into this stuff? Just curiosity, or a hobby? Either way, thanks for the info.

I can't seem to get onto the site. It just says page cannot be displayed. Maybe I'll try it later.

Have a good Memorial day weekend.

r3be1
05-27-2005, 06:39 PM
what does it mean 'Profetional use only' anyone can order one by the looks of it


wait i looked at it closer and I guess you can buy any laser you want, after you recieve it, its your responsibilty to use it legaly, and wicked lasers isnt responsible for anything

Omega_224
05-27-2005, 07:03 PM
Wow! That's interesting. Although people are kinda scared about what I could do now that I know how lock-picking works....

rikakiah
05-27-2005, 10:46 PM
True, r3, it doesn't look like they do their own check before you purchase. However, based on how bright my &lt;5mW one is, you're probably going to be noticed if you use a higher power one. Of course, you could probably switch a label to try and pass it off as a &lt;5mW, but is it worth the risk? Besides, the higher power ones can burn holes through things--you can't hide that and people KNOW that can't be legal...

jchung, more curiosity than hobby, due mainly to finances. They're just very fascinating to me. It's just a shame I got interested in this stuff AFTER college. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

r3be1
05-27-2005, 10:57 PM
well thats the reason i want the more powerful ones :-P I like to make holes, and I don't get in trouble with the law so i doubt I will get in to trouble


Thank you for showing me this awsome site, Im going to purchase one of these pretty soon

rikakiah
05-27-2005, 11:11 PM
Great...I've created a monster. Good thing you don't know my real name. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif