Should I get the collector's edition?

[Nick1021]

Should I get the collector's edition with the jack in the box? I don't really care for the preview for comics and the trailers. The music cd and the strategy guide are fine, but I REALLY want a jack in the box(I love jack in the boxes because I never had one as a kid).

And if you think it's worth it, which one? The doctor? The harlequin?

And one more question. Can I pre-order from gamestop and get the doctor jack in the box AND the harlequin play for multiplayer.

[deathgrim666]

I got the collectors edition , because i want all the stuff so for me its ok.

[FrankieSatt]

NO. It's a waste of money. Not worth the price considering what's in it.

[Nick1021]

Originally posted by FrankieSatt:
NO. It's a waste of money. Not worth the price considering what's in it.
Actually it seems it's worth it. But only a few people would find the items useful or something they would want.
If it only had the jack in the box and it was like 10-15 dollars(maybe 20) I would buy it in a hearbeat.

[DeafAtheist]

I've pre-ordered the Harlequin Collector's Edition myself. I wouldn't mind getting the Doctor too but can't afford both.

@FrankieSatt Really? It's only $40 more than the price of the standard edition. I think it's worth it. I guess it comes down to how much of an AC fan you are and how much sentimental value you'd get from it... not just economical value.

[DorkDorkerson]

You can only get the Doctor Jack-in-the-Box if you order from any retailer other than Gamestop. But dude... A HARLEQUIN JACK-IN-THE-BOX! You can't miss an opportunity like that!

[deathgrim666]

Originally posted by DorkDorkerson:
You can only get the Doctor Jack-in-the-Box if you order from any retailer other than Gamestop. But dude... A HARLEQUIN JACK-IN-THE-BOX! You can't miss an opportunity like that!

I would get the doctor, but i really want a the harlequin skin for mp.

[ninjasownu]

I have to disagree about the true fan part. I cant afford this Special Edition but I am still a huge fan.

[Nick1021]

Originally posted by DorkDorkerson:
You can only get the Doctor Jack-in-the-Box if you order from any retailer other than Gamestop. But dude... A HARLEQUIN JACK-IN-THE-BOX! You can't miss an opportunity like that!
The harlequin SOUNDS better but sadly he doesn't look better. His hat isn't perfectly round(has some sharp edges)and his pose is pathetic compared to the doctor, and the doctors mask is more detailed, but I do like the harlequins key.

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by ninjasownu:
I have to disagree about the true fan part. I cant afford this Special Edition but I am still a huge fan.

Not being able to afford the Collector's Edition doesn't mean someone isn't a true fan. That's not the same as saying it's not worth the money to buy it if you could afford it.

I'm an unemployed single dad with full custody of my kid. I'm not made of money myself, but I only buy fewer than 5 games a year brand new and this is only the 2nd Collector's Edition of a game I've bought this year. Most games I rent from Gamefly and if I like it enough I buy them from Gamefly at membership discounted prices.

If I could afford to buy more games there's plenty more I'd love to get. I just have to prioritize with my budget.

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by Nick1021:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DorkDorkerson:
You can only get the Doctor Jack-in-the-Box if you order from any retailer other than Gamestop. But dude... A HARLEQUIN JACK-IN-THE-BOX! You can't miss an opportunity like that!
The harlequin SOUNDS better but sadly he doesn't look better. His hat isn't perfectly round(has some sharp edges)and his pose is pathetic compared to the doctor, and the doctors mask is more detailed, but I do like the harlequins key. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just re-watched the Harlequin's promo trailer and he looks fine to me. No better or worse animation than any other character. His hat looks fine to me. I don't see any design flaws.

[Nick1021]

Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick1021:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DorkDorkerson:
You can only get the Doctor Jack-in-the-Box if you order from any retailer other than Gamestop. But dude... A HARLEQUIN JACK-IN-THE-BOX! You can't miss an opportunity like that!
The harlequin SOUNDS better but sadly he doesn't look better. His hat isn't perfectly round(has some sharp edges)and his pose is pathetic compared to the doctor, and the doctors mask is more detailed, but I do like the harlequins key. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just re-watched the Harlequin's promo trailer and he looks fine to me. No better or worse animation than any other character. His hat looks fine to me. I don't see any design flaws. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I meant the jack in the box harlequin. His pose is worse then the doctors and his hat is jagged unlike his mp avatar that has a round hat.

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by Nick1021:
I meant the jack in the box harlequin. His pose is worse then the doctors and his hat is jagged unlike his mp avatar that has a round hat.

I don't think the Jack-in-the-box Harlequin looks bad either. He's raising 2 daggers with a sadistic grin on his face. Jack-in-the-boxes are traditionally clowns/jesters/harlequins albeit with more friendly features. That's what makes the unique features of the Harlequin jack-in-the-box so unique in my opinion. The Doctor for me is no more than just another desirable AC collectible... it doesn't really fit as a jack-in-the-box character. If I could afford both I'd get both, but since I can only afford one I think the Harlequin is the better choice.

But it's your money dude, and your opinion that matters. If you like the Doctor better then get the Doctor. Gamestop pre-orders for the Collector's Edition online are sold out. I'm not sure about your local Gamestop tho but chances are they could be sold out. There's going to be a lot more available Doctors since they are being sold by every other retailer.

[Nick1021]

Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick1021:
I meant the jack in the box harlequin. His pose is worse then the doctors and his hat is jagged unlike his mp avatar that has a round hat.

I don't think the Jack-in-the-box Harlequin looks bad either. He's raising 2 daggers with a sadistic grin on his face. Jack-in-the-boxes are traditionally clowns/jesters/harlequins albeit with more friendly features. That's what makes the unique features of the Harlequin jack-in-the-box so unique in my opinion. The Doctor for me is no more than just another desirable AC collectible... it doesn't really fit as a jack-in-the-box character. If I could afford both I'd get both, but since I can only afford one I think the Harlequin is the better choice.

But it's your money dude, and your opinion that matters. If you like the Doctor better then get the Doctor. Gamestop pre-orders for the Collector's Edition online are sold out. I'm not sure about your local Gamestop tho but chances are they could be sold out. There's going to be a lot more available Doctors since they are being sold by every other retailer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't pre-order from online, so I hope they have it locally =P

But don't you see the jagged lines on the hat of the harlequin jack in the box?

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by Nick1021:
I don't pre-order from online, so I hope they have it locally =P

But don't you see the jagged lines on the hat of the harlequin jack in the box?

Well it doesn't matter if Gamestop is sold out or not if you decide you want the Doctor. It only matters if you want the Harlequin.

Yes I see the lines you speak of on the Harlequin jack-in-the-box but they are barely noticeable and don't really detract from the quality of it in my opinion. Besides it's a photo... a low-quality photo. I'm sure it hardly does the actual product justice.

[Nick1021]

I would just like to know if you can have the doctor jack in the box when pre-ordering from gamestop so I could get the harlequin for mp.

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by Nick1021:
I would just like to know if you can have the doctor jack in the box when pre-ordering from gamestop so I could get the harlequin for mp.

Nope. Doctor is only available at other retailers. Gamestop only sells the Harlequin JITB. But if you want the Harlequin MP character & the Doctor JITB you can do what I did. I ordered from 2 different retailers so I could get both MP characters. I plan to re-sell or return the 2nd copy to get my money back. I bought the Collector's Edition from Gamestop and a regular copy from Best Buy.

[FrankieSatt]

Originally posted by DeafAtheist:@FrankieSatt Really? It's only $40 more than the price of the standard edition. I think it's worth it. I guess it comes down to how much of an AC fan you are and how much sentimental value you'd get from it... not just economical value.

A Jack In The Box? Really? That is worth almost DOUBLE the price?

The standard game is $60.00. You are paying almost double the price for a Jack In The Box, and a few other useless things. I love the series and will buy the game the day it comes out, but there is NO WAY I'm paying $40.00 for a Jack In The Box.

If they had added a collectable figure, or something collectable from the game that would be different but still would have to be pretty damn impressive to be worth paying almost double.

A reasonable price for a Collectors Edition, giving what's in it, would be $10 - $15 more not $40.

I don't care how much you love the series, it's a waste of money given what's in it. I stand by my post.

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by FrankieSatt:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DeafAtheist:@FrankieSatt Really? It's only $40 more than the price of the standard edition. I think it's worth it. I guess it comes down to how much of an AC fan you are and how much sentimental value you'd get from it... not just economical value.

A Jack In The Box? Really? That is worth almost DOUBLE the price?

The standard game is $60.00. You are paying almost double the price for a Jack In The Box, and a few other useless things. I love the series and will buy the game the day it comes out, but there is NO WAY I'm paying $40.00 for a Jack In The Box.

If they had added a collectable figure, or something collectable from the game that would be different but still would have to be pretty damn impressive to be worth paying almost double.

A reasonable price for a Collectors Edition, giving what's in it, would be $10 - $15 more not $40.

I don't care how much you love the series, it's a waste of money given what's in it. I stand by my post. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The JITB isn't a toy like child's toy. It IS a collectible figure. The so-called other "useless things" include 2 bonus maps which if they were DLC would probably have cost 800 microsoft points and probably will cost that for those who don't have it when it does come out as DLC. There's also a soundtrack disc easily worth another $10 at least if sold separately and a making-of video which along with the map could be considered free swag. So $20 for the JITB and $20 for the rest of the other content hardly seems like a rip-off to me but I guess you have a different opinion.

[Nick1021]

I just have a thing for JITB. I have always found them interesting and mysterious when I was a kid, but I never had one =P.

And I have a few questions about it.
-How will it open?(A key?)
-Will their be music?
-Will jump around like a spring?

[bkb34]

I'd rather a bird beaked man with a syringe pop out of a box any day of the week over an overly happy, loud clothes wearing, pale face freak staring at me...

[Nick1021]

Originally posted by bkb34:
I'd rather a bird beaked man with a syringe pop out of a box any day of the week over an overly happy, loud clothes wearing, pale face freak staring at me...
Ye, but I want the harlequin mp character D=

[FrankieSatt]

Originally posted by DeafAtheist:The JITB isn't a toy like child's toy. It IS a collectible figure. The so-called other "useless things" include 2 bonus maps which if they were DLC would probably have cost 800 microsoft points and probably will cost that for those who don't have it when it does come out as DLC. There's also a soundtrack disc easily worth another $10 at least if sold separately and a making-of video which along with the map could be considered free swag. So $20 for the JITB and $20 for the rest of the other content hardly seems like a rip-off to me but I guess you have a different opinion.

I don't play MP so bonus maps do me no good. If I want to listen to the sound track, I'll play the game. Doesn't do much for me. Making-of-video is something you watch maybe once, not worth it for me. The map, yeah that might be worth something.

So the only thing left is the Jack-In-The-Box. A collectable figure would be MUCH BETTER than that.

It's not worth it, in my opinion.

[MT4K]

i'm pretty sure i read the bonus levels were singleplayer levels (perhaps tombs?)

but anyway, many people usually get all the extra stuff out of sentimental value i suspect, and sometimes years later this stuff can be worth a good bit of money if you ever decide to one day sell it all

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by FrankieSatt:
I don't play MP so bonus maps do me no good. If I want to listen to the sound track, I'll play the game. Doesn't do much for me. Making-of-video is something you watch maybe once, not worth it for me. The map, yeah that might be worth something.

So the only thing left is the Jack-In-The-Box. A collectable figure would be MUCH BETTER than that.

It's not worth it, in my opinion.

The maps are single-player maps. See link from official Ubisoft website: http://assassinscreed.us.ubi.c...hood/news/11443.html (http://assassinscreed.us.ubi.com/brotherhood/news/11443.html)

I'm assuming the maps are like the Templar Lairs and Assassin Tombs in AC2.

But as for everything else. I get your opinion. I was speaking strictly from a monetary value. It costs money to make all the stuff being put in the box that you consider to be useless.

Personally I see the JITB as a collectible figure. There's already been a collectible Ezio figure in AC2's Collector's Edition so what would be the point in doing the same thing again?

I'd likely watch the film but being deaf I doubt it would have subtitles for me so I wouldn't really get much benefit out of it. Same idea with the soundtrack CD. Some people enjoy game music so much that they'd want to play it outside of the game. Me being deaf that doesn't appeal to me at all.

There's also a digital sneak peek of the comic and an art book, both of which I'd be interested to see. The map interests me as well.

So even I'm not interested in every item in the box but to me it's worth the price for the collectible JITB and the exclusive maps, art book, comic peek, and the making-of video.

I'm not arguing with you here. Point is simply that different people have different opinions and if it's not worth the buy for you that's up to you. Like I said before buying a Collector's Edition is about one's opinion about the value both economical and sentimental that they would get from the extra items and content. Some like you will think it's not worth the money and some like me think it is.

I never got an AC2 Collector's Edition but if I can scrape up the money to get one of the few new ones still available to buy (will set me back about $200) I'll get one. If not I'll probably just get both the white and black Ezio action figures that came out recently. So that would satisfy my fanboy interest in a collectible figure.

[Nick1021]

Why would you not play mp? I loved AC2 but once you beat it, there is nothing to do.

[MT4K]

Originally posted by Nick1021:
Why would you not play mp? I loved AC2 but once you beat it, there is nothing to do.

you could always beat the game again? collect any treasure chests or feathers you aint gotten yet ect ect to get 100%

but admittedly you're right, but i think that's why they are introducing those vr training thingies into brotherhood which will have leaderboards and stuff, so he could always do those instead of the actual mp mode http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Nick1021]

Originally posted by MT4K:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick1021:
Why would you not play mp? I loved AC2 but once you beat it, there is nothing to do.

you could always beat the game again? collect any treasure chests or feathers you aint gotten yet ect ect to get 100%

but admittedly you're right, but i think that's why they are introducing those vr training thingies into brotherhood which will have leaderboards and stuff, so he could always do those instead of the actual mp mode http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
True, but hackers or no lifers kind of ruin it(I'm not really complaining, just saying those kind of things never interest me). And I will be trying to get 100% for ac:b and I think playing multiplayer would be more fun then repeating some race to prove to players you are the best.

[MT4K]

that's a fair point Nick, anything that involves leaderboards cannot be trusted half the time because of said hackers ect lol, but he could always compete against himself and try to beat his own times, but i imagine that would get rather boring pretty quickly....

i am hopefull even those people not interested in the mp side of the game would still at least try it once or twice. they may even find themselves enjoying it, especially considering how different it appears to be from mainstream multiplayer games, besides, the devs put the time and effort to include the feature, everybody should at least TRY it imo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Nick1021]

Originally posted by MT4K:
that's a fair point Nick, anything that involves leaderboards cannot be trusted half the time because of said hackers ect lol, but he could always compete against himself and try to beat his own times, but i imagine that would get rather boring pretty quickly....

i am hopefull even those people not interested in the mp side of the game would still at least try it once or twice. they may even find themselves enjoying it, especially considering how different it appears to be from mainstream multiplayer games, besides, the devs put the time and effort to include the feature, everybody should at least TRY it imo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
I think the reason they decided to make an mp was because they weren't making any money since the games are always rented or returned.

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by Nick1021:
I think the reason they decided to make an mp was because they weren't making any money since the games are always rented or returned.

Actually the multiplayer wasn't originally planned for Assassin's Creed. It was originally put into the original build of Splinter Conviction but ultimately the didn't feel it fit with the game but they liked the idea of it so they decided to put it in a different game which ended up being ACB. Creative Director of Conviction Maxime Behland discussed it in the May 2010 issue of Gamepro in an interview about Conviction.

[FrankieSatt]

Originally posted by Nick1021:
Why would you not play mp? I loved AC2 but once you beat it, there is nothing to do.

To really enjoy Multiplayer you have to play it quite often and I don't have the time to play it quite often. I like playing the game and then if it's really enjoyable I'll play it again to finish up things I missed the first time or to do things differently.

While some people can finish a single player game in a couple of days it takes me a couple of weeks, because I do have a life outside of my gaming hobby.

Another reason I don't play Multiplayer is that I'm not very good most of the times compared to the competition. Again, you have to play it quite often to get up to that competition and I just don't have the time for that.

Multiplayer is for those who really can play the same game for months on end and play it 4-5 hours a day.

[MT4K]

i suppose a work around for those who do not really play mulltiplayer that much (me for one tbh i've been and done the whole clan thing in the past, cba anymore with that stuff lol)

but a good workaround to still enjoy multiplayer is by getting a group of friends together if you're fortunate enough to know enough people for the said game it could still be great fun even if you wont play it that often, since friends would understand and most likely go easier on you or help you learn tactics ect that they found out while you wasnt around and so on

[Nick1021]

Originally posted by FrankieSatt:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick1021:
Why would you not play mp? I loved AC2 but once you beat it, there is nothing to do.

To really enjoy Multiplayer you have to play it quite often and I don't have the time to play it quite often. I like playing the game and then if it's really enjoyable I'll play it again to finish up things I missed the first time or to do things differently.

While some people can finish a single player game in a couple of days it takes me a couple of weeks, because I do have a life outside of my gaming hobby.

Another reason I don't play Multiplayer is that I'm not very good most of the times compared to the competition. Again, you have to play it quite often to get up to that competition and I just don't have the time for that.

Multiplayer is for those who really can play the same game for months on end and play it 4-5 hours a day. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well you may be bad at fps because their are so many and they have been around for like decades. But this is a new style and we are all going to be new to it. But yes, if you don't play much I can understand. But it still could be fun if you play it for like 30 minutes just for fun.

[Nick1021]

*ZAP*
I just revived this thread.

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by Nick1021:
*ZAP*
I just revived this thread.

Bumping threads is frowned upon. Post in it if you have something substantial to say but just bumping it to put it back at the top is against policy.

[lokie56]

If I had money I'd go for the Limited Codex Ed From Europe. TO me Jack in the box does not constitute an extra 40$
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/06/15571172-large.jpg
You can if you want pre-order from play.com and get it shipped to the US (about the same price just extra for shipping), my friend did that or you could wait till it goes up on ebay. I thinks its of more value goes you get ALL of the extra content, characters (plus the officer Eu ONLY), and you get the soundtrack, lineage, the map, card, and of course the EPIC box and codex book which are exclusive to Europe. You have to be a PS3 owner though, 360 games from Eu won't work on USA 360's but PS3 games work anywhere. I bought AC 1 from England and it worked perfectly on my USA ps3.
ALSO if you just want the Jack in the Box you will probably be able to find someone after the release who will put it up on ebay for a reasonable price.

[Nick1021]

You can get the officer in the U.S. by pre-ordering the game at best-buy.

And sorry I bumped but I didn't have anything to say and I wanted more opinions on my question.

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by Nick1021:
You can get the officer in the U.S. by pre-ordering the game at best-buy.

Yep. That's why I ordered 2 copies of the game... Collector's Edition from Gamestop for the Harlequin MP character and a standard copy from Best Buy for the Officer MP character.

[Nick1021]

Originally posted by DeafAtheist:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick1021:
You can get the officer in the U.S. by pre-ordering the game at best-buy.

Yep. That's why I ordered 2 copies of the game... Collector's Edition from Gamestop for the Harlequin MP character and a standard copy from Best Buy for the Officer MP character. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't care that much for the officer. He looks bland and his weapon is lame =P

[DeafAtheist]

Originally posted by Nick1021:
I don't care that much for the officer. He looks bland and his weapon is lame =P

He's not among my favorite characters either but I figured it would be nice to have every character possible to give more choices.

[lokie56]

Still you have to admit the codex edition has a lot more value even for a creed fan.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7894/brom.jpg
Add up to : $109.89 + 10$(shipping/tax) = $120

Compared to what you paid: 100$ (plus tax) + 60(plus tax) = $160+ didn't even account for the fact that you might buy it online in which case you would also have to pay for shipping as well.

[Nick1021]

Ye but I'm not gonna go that far. I need to get the game as soon it comes out so I can be one of the best on mp on xbox. I watched all beta gameplays, I've read tactics on forums and I'm going to be one of the first people to play it.

[DeafAtheist]

Compared to what you paid: 100$ (plus tax) + 60(plus tax) = $160+ didn't even account for the fact that you might buy it online in which case you would also have to pay for shipping as well.

Not always. Often you can get free shipping from some retailers online as well as avoiding sales taxes which is why I like buying online verses from a local retailer because if I buy locally I'll definitely have to pay sales taxes on the item. But for games if I'm pre-ordering I buy based on what bonus interests me the most regardless of taxes & shipping costs. For Brotherhood I am ordering 2 copies 1 from Gamestop and 1 from Best Buy and both I bought online to be shipped because even tho I could physically go to Gamestop or Best Buy for them the nearest locations for both stores are at least an hour drive from me so it's impractical.