Heroes of Might and Magic Community Sites Launch SaveHeroes.org [Archive]

Vision_ToL

01-26-2006, 08:38 AM

Dedicated Fans and Players Want to Delay Game for Higher Quality Release

Worldwide, Jan. 26, 2006. A group of Heroes of Might and Magic community Websites today launched a collaborative effort to persuade Ubisoft executives to delay the launch of their highly anticipated title Heroes of Might and Magic 5. SaveHeroes.Org is a concerted community effort to further that cause.

This effort, and the reasons behind it, started largely because of the open beta test, which started on GameSpy on Monday, January 23rd. With Heroes of Might and Magic 4 having received poor sales in comparison to its predecessor, Heroes 5 is seen by most as a make or break game. If it fails, so will the entire Might and Magic franchise. If it succeeds, then the product line would gain the support it needs for a long term at Ubisoft.

With these facts in mind, community websites, including Celestial Heavens, The Oracle League, Age of Heroes, Heroes Community, The Genies Lamp, Guardians Grove, and many others started posting petitions and banners to "Save Heroes 5". Not long after, these same leaders gathered to try and organize a collaborative effort to attempt to show Ubisoft that releasing an unfinished game would not go over well at all.

After the rough start and continued issues of the Open Beta, and some investigation, these leaders realized that there was little time to act. Ubisoft's fiscal year ends on March 31, coinciding with the release date. Ubisoft was also the target of a takeover bid in December of 2004, something they are not likely to forget easily. Wanting to hit or exceed their yearly targets could be a reason for the March 31 release date.

However, such short-term plans are exactly what doomed Heroes 4, New World Computing and The 3DO Company. SaveHeroes.Org is now open to try and prevent such a thing from happening.

http://www.saveheroes.org

znork

01-26-2006, 08:39 AM

SAVE HEROS!!

Pitsu

01-26-2006, 08:43 AM

Interesting. And I do not know if such site was absolutely necessary, but nevertheless it is true that the Heroes 4 rushed release should NOT reoccur. The game is ready when it is ready, whatever time it takes.

Justice

01-26-2006, 08:43 AM

YES SAVE HEROES!

I've waited for 40 seconds now.. still no email http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Arcona74

01-26-2006, 08:45 AM

hope you have more luck than

http://saveenterprise.com

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

socketboy

01-26-2006, 08:46 AM

Signed!
Spread the word! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

RWolf

01-26-2006, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Justice:
YES SAVE HEROES!

I've waited for 40 seconds now.. still no email http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Save heroes

Is there a problem, I dont have a email, and i registered 5 min ago.

socketboy

01-26-2006, 08:51 AM

strange, I got mine almost instantly

Justice

01-26-2006, 08:58 AM

I'll try again... still not got it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Justice

01-26-2006, 08:59 AM

They say I'm allredy registered... what is wronge?

ah saw the message now...

arturchix

01-26-2006, 09:00 AM

People, if you care to receive a full Heroes V game, please sign there and hope that for the game development will be given more time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

znork

01-26-2006, 09:01 AM

Be patiant the mail will come he is sending it out manualy!

RainWind

01-26-2006, 09:07 AM

Sounds good to me. I want a finished game, not another half done release like most games these days.

blood-bound

01-26-2006, 09:19 AM

signed now.... save heroes of might and magic V

S.a.S-SnakeBit

01-26-2006, 09:42 AM

/signed

Read this topic please.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1851065692/m/6901057304

Its a topic to help you guys help homm5 get better [ Blex i love homm5 and sc ] So just read and i hope it will help .

Citadel_Sealt

01-26-2006, 09:58 AM

Maybe I just missed it,... but what are the reasons why you think HoMM5 is in need of saving? What makes it so bad right now and how do you know these problems aren't being worked on right now/ or won't be fixed in time? All I saw on the page were some general guidelines like "singelplayer campaign has to be very polished/good,etc..." but nothing specific. Care to make me care about it?

arturchix

01-26-2006, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Citadel_Sealt:
Maybe I just missed it,... but what are the reasons why you think HoMM5 is in need of saving? What makes it so bad right now and how do you know these problems aren't being worked on right now/ or won't be fixed in time? All I saw on the page were some general guidelines like "singelplayer campaign has to be very polished/good,etc..." but nothing specific. Care to make me care about it?
As a matter of fact, you've missed a lot - I'd suggest to read this (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1851065692/m/8791000304) thread. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

unreal_az

01-26-2006, 10:21 AM

Great news hope everyone hears!

Lord_Crusader

01-26-2006, 10:23 AM

SAVE HEROES!!

znork

01-26-2006, 10:33 AM

We need you help to save the game plz sign!

Citadel_Sealt

01-26-2006, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by arturchix:
As a matter of fact, you've missed a lot - I'd suggest to read this (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1851065692/m/8791000304) thread. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Nope, there's no way that I'll read through ten pages of the common blabering of this forum to get some straight answers. 'Tis too painfull...

Romanov77

01-26-2006, 10:41 AM

This is going to piss off fabrice....A LOT! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Seriously...is just a beta...I still have trust in the developers...

Vision_ToL

01-26-2006, 10:56 AM

I dont think it will piss off Fabrice.

He is a heroes fan just like the rest of us, and he wants a good game just like the rest of us.

Just because he works for Ubi doesnt mean he is brain dead.

Citadel: The ones organizing this are people who played in the closed beta, most of us since day 1 of push 1. We know the development cycle they go through, how long it takes to fix bugs, and what they focus on. It is our collective opinions and facts found on the Ubi site (their actual reports) that leads us to believe that, while the game will be good, it will not be what everyone wants to have. IE: Good AI, MP and RMG/Map Editor for starters.

Quenlar7

01-26-2006, 11:04 AM

The only way to see if a game needs 'saving' or not is to see how it is when released. I haven't played the beta yet, but even if it isn't any good I'm not going to bother signing a petition. I'm defently not going to buy the game until after I play it, so if they decide to release a crappy game I could care less. I haven't ever preorder games because you aren't buying previous expetations of a game, you are buying whatever they decide to make. Basicly don't tell them not to rush the game, when you rush yourself and preorder without playing a demo or whatever.

Trotyr

01-26-2006, 11:06 AM

less bugs = more fun.. Ill hope ubi realise it!

for exampel battlefield 2 is so bugged you still can call it a beta, even after several patches. Not fun!

Infiltrator-SF

01-26-2006, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Quenlar7:
if they decide to release a crappy game I could care less.

Well guess what - a lot of people care, because HoMM isn't exactly your typical Barbie Makeup Adventures. Thats why people who care will do anything in their power to prevent another Heroes 4 deja-vu.

UruramTururam

01-26-2006, 11:12 AM

Save Heroes!
Don't let it live unfinished!

arturchix

01-26-2006, 12:13 PM

In this chaos of missing beta announcement, don't forget to sign in the petition!

krzyz

01-26-2006, 12:15 PM

first ill see - then i may sign

Justice

01-26-2006, 12:18 PM

You won't see since they haven't given the worst parts of the beta to the public, only multiplayer...

178 signings allready... and I bet there would be more if you didn't have to register... But then it wouldn't be as impressive to see all those signed comments...

znork

01-26-2006, 12:46 PM

What to will waiting for the dl to start?
Save homm v click my sign!

Justice

01-26-2006, 12:53 PM

Yes click on Znorks sig and help saving the game.- It needs you.

forMsProudmore

01-26-2006, 01:23 PM

Y thought ubi/nival know what they were doing but maybe y was wrong.
This game has huge potential,it should be released later Just make it perfect if possible anyway we(hom&m fans)will survive.
Just see "world of warcraft" :delayed with MORE than 1 year.
y do not what h5 2 become a second h4(refering to unfinished,bugged etc.)
They should make it"perfect" even if it takes 6 months

Justice

01-26-2006, 05:11 PM

302 people have signed now... if you aren't one of them then sign now. the world of Might and magic needs you once more, this time it isn't just about saving Enroth or Antagarich. You must save the entire universe from the very possibly oncoming doom.

Vitirr

01-26-2006, 05:31 PM

Everybody go and sign now. It's worth the small effort.

C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s

01-26-2006, 08:03 PM

*walks in with his head lowered in shame*

You know, after how busy I was today helping people with the beta and updating the site and helping to orchestrate the petition...I forgot one little thing.

To sign the darned thing. Sheesh!

*signed* http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

unreal_az

01-26-2006, 09:06 PM

You just didnt want to http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif just j/k http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
Number of signers reached 359 and still rising.
Spread the word. Save heroes.

socketboy

01-26-2006, 09:11 PM

looking at the steam this thing is moving with, it will be a blow to end the series (at least while owned by ubisoft) if they release a bugggy/unfinished game...

Stornker

01-26-2006, 09:14 PM

If nothing changes, we may have a potential victory:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1851065692/m/3391050404

orbvius

01-27-2006, 02:31 AM

Yes this deserved to be signed.
We WANT a more complete heroes. Not some beautiful game with half-boiled game mechanism.

znork

01-27-2006, 02:31 AM

The action is ganing mumentum plz sign WE CAN DO THIS! You know what to do!

orbvius

01-27-2006, 03:01 AM

Yes. I support this. Please save heroes V or at least give it a good patch to save it.

ruXxar

01-27-2006, 04:31 AM

I freeze on my back and get tears in my eyes when i read this.. I also want a finished HoMM 5 game.. forever live heroes of might and magic..

znork

01-27-2006, 05:41 AM

We are making an impact plz continu to sign!

Justice

01-27-2006, 05:47 AM

Holy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif 602 people have signed now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Go out there and sign, if you do you'll hopefully be one of those who can go out and tell ihs grandchildre "I were one of those who saved heroes, if it wasn't for me and my friends the series would have died with Heroes V. But now you can enjoy and play Heroes XXV while I don't use your e PC".

Go now, make difference.

Justice

01-27-2006, 06:02 AM

627 now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

UruramTururam

01-27-2006, 06:06 AM

How about www.shaveheroes.com (http://www.shaveheroes.com) now? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif http://www.sulinet.hu/ikep/2004/06/fiu.jpg

Zamolxis108

01-27-2006, 06:35 AM

/Signed - wholehartly and full of hope.

*another one walking behind the genie with his head bound on shame* http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

After being maybe the first asking for game delay (when nobody believed me such thing is really needed) and proposing petitions, I can't believe that I'm not one of the first 10 on that list. Even worse - not only one of the first 100. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

But never mind. Better be the 160th on a list that gathered 700 (!!!) signatures in less than 24 hours, than one of the first on a list that takes one month to gather 100. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

skortzy

01-27-2006, 06:37 AM

According to this (http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/resources/binary/upload//Ubisoft_CA_Q3_05-06_ENG_012606.pdf) Heroes V is no longer scheduled for a Q1 2006 release http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

UruramTururam

01-27-2006, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by skortzy:
According to this (http://www.ubisoftgroup.com/resources/binary/upload//Ubisoft_CA_Q3_05-06_ENG_012606.pdf) Heroes V is no longer scheduled for a Q1 2006 release http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You are right, but note that a game may be taken in and out of such lists.

skortzy

01-27-2006, 06:51 AM

Yes but, in theory, a game should get back on such lists only if it is considerred to be finished.

Of course, it is also possible that list not to be complete http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Anyway, I guess we should wait for an official announcement before rejoycing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Justice

01-27-2006, 08:38 AM

700 people have signed now... common and sign. You might be in the top 1000 if you do it now.- Remember all the good moments this game has given you. use 5 minutes of youre time in return to save Heroes and the Might and Magic universe...

snadar

01-27-2006, 08:58 AM

Just wanted to mention - http://www.saveheroes.org/ was also reported in the leading Israely gaming site "Vgames":
http://www.vgames.co.il/website/vgames_news_page.asp?pl...main&seqNewsID=11639 (http://www.vgames.co.il/website/vgames_news_page.asp?platform=main&seqNewsID=11639)
some more good exposure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

znork

01-27-2006, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by snadar:
Just wanted to mention - http://www.saveheroes.org/ was also reported in the leading Israely gaming site "Vgames":
http://www.vgames.co.il/website/vgames_news_page.asp?pl...main&seqNewsID=11639 (http://www.vgames.co.il/website/vgames_news_page.asp?platform=main&seqNewsID=11639)
some more good exposure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

We are getting this done! But plz people sign we are so many now that we are geting the attatation of the world! PLZ sign it realy makes a huge differance!

Justice

01-27-2006, 09:46 AM

Sign now, the world needs heroes.

745 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Justice

01-27-2006, 10:45 AM

785... come sign now... the game needs you

Labyrinth

01-27-2006, 10:48 AM

788 now.

Justice, you could make the banner link to the http://www.saveheroes.org site!

znork

01-27-2006, 11:09 AM

800 no only 200 left to a 1000 plz help the game

Kareeah_Indaga

01-27-2006, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by C_h_u_c_k_l_e_s:
*walks in with his head lowered in shame*

You know, after how busy I was today helping people with the beta and updating the site and helping to orchestrate the petition...I forgot one little thing.

To sign the darned thing. Sheesh!

*signed* http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Donââ‚¬™t feel bad Chuckles, at least youââ‚¬™re helping the community. I had to sit through classes for hours before I got a chance to sign it (and if I had waited for two more signatures I would have been #333ââ‚¬Â¦ah well, no loss http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif). And every time I go to answer someoneââ‚¬™s question it either has already been answered or I donââ‚¬™t know what they could do to fix the problem. ;_;

805 signatures as I type this. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

groovy_guy171

01-27-2006, 11:54 AM

i complete agree with this petition, have signed for it, and i will try to persuade polish fans to sign there as well.

let the serie of homm live for ever

znork

01-27-2006, 12:33 PM

we are geting 5000 hits a day! From around the world!

we are not jocking help us!

Justice

01-27-2006, 12:53 PM

Don't you mean 500?

Else...

He's right peple... come now hurry we can't lose it. We have waited all these years for the resurection. Don't let the dark force of finance destroy it!

arturchix

01-27-2006, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Justice:
Don't you mean 500?

Else...

He's right peple... come now hurry we can't lose it. We have waited all these years for the resurection. Don't let the dark force of finance destroy it!
Check out the most recent news at the website! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Justice

01-27-2006, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by arturchix:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Justice:
Don't you mean 500?

Else...

He's right peple... come now hurry we can't lose it. We have waited all these years for the resurection. Don't let the dark force of finance destroy it!
Check out the most recent news at the website! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wow, and i don't mean WoW http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I've only looked at the sign thread... been on the page all day... that are great news http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif together with all those unconfirmed or banished rumors of a delay http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Campaigner_1st

01-27-2006, 01:26 PM

Signed it now as nr.897

Justice

01-27-2006, 01:45 PM

907 now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif comon and sign, we will hit 1000 today with youre help.

loonyjoe

01-27-2006, 01:51 PM

signed and even edited my sig...
the page was suspended for a moment, because of the rush there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

El_Diablo999

01-27-2006, 02:08 PM

Maybe I'll sign it

Justice

01-27-2006, 03:06 PM

Only 56 minutes left to gater the last 50 signings before we reach 1000, if we want to get to 1000 now... But ofcourse you can wait with signing to tomorrow and let a buggy game be released.- Of course there is no way you can sign tomorrow.

Zamolxis108

01-27-2006, 06:18 PM

The petition has topped 1000 !!! http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/69.gif

All-Devourer

01-27-2006, 06:36 PM

I really hope H5 wont become like another H4 flopp...like they said Heroes series cant afforde it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

socketboy

01-27-2006, 07:10 PM

yay 1000!

ANd all-d, that is exactly what we are pushing for. We really can't afford this one to not be polished and flop

Vision_ToL

01-27-2006, 08:08 PM

No, he didnt mean 500, he mant 5000.

Take a look at the most recent news post over at SaveHeroes.Org or, optionally, you can take a look at the image directly Here (http://www.saveheroes.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/sitehits.jpg)

Our message is being heard loudly, and that says something.

veerus

01-27-2006, 08:14 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/heroesofmightandmag...ews.html?sid=6143245 (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/heroesofmightandmagicv/news.html?sid=6143245)

The game has been delayed. Not sure how much of an impact the petition had, but it was enough.

socketboy

01-27-2006, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by veerus:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/heroesofmightandmag...ews.html?sid=6143245 (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/heroesofmightandmagicv/news.html?sid=6143245)

The game has been delayed. Not sure how much of an impact the petition had, but it was enough.
WEll, we are not really taking Gamespots word for it. There is that little update on the bottom, plus, no official word yet.

I think we should wait for an update from FC or maybe a press release from ubisoft before we call it a "win"

znork

01-28-2006, 01:59 AM

we are over 1000 nowhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Newman1986

01-28-2006, 03:07 AM

I think that Nival will have finished the game in time. It is one of the best Russian developers, and their games usually donââ‚¬™t need any patches.

P. S. Sorry for my language.

znork

01-28-2006, 03:11 AM

Originally posted by Newman1986:
I think that Nival will have finished the game in time. It is one of the best Russian developers, and their games usually donââ‚¬™t need any patches.

P. S. Sorry for my language.

Well trust me this will! If its released om 31 march

Newman1986

01-28-2006, 03:37 AM

I think that this beta could be made about 4 months ago? They just want to make you feel nervous.

Justice

01-28-2006, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by Newman1986:
I think that this beta could be made about 4 months ago? They just want to make you feel nervous.

I'm afraid that is not possible, since a great deal of people here have played for the last 4 months and I guess that they had pretty good bonds with the producers, the only sad thing with this is that it can't be confirmed because of the NDA http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

else we have 1148, hurry and sign. Do it before we reach 2000 and you may get a special reward... yes it is a finished and good Heroes game.- Ofcourse you still have to pay.

KingAlamar

01-28-2006, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by Justice:
else we have 1148, hurry and sign. Do it before we reach 2000 and you may get a special reward... yes it is a finished and good Heroes game.- Ofcourse you still have to pay.

I think that would be reward enough.

Justice

01-28-2006, 02:37 PM

1380 now... hurry go sign.

znork

01-28-2006, 03:37 PM

Wow justice you should start in sals!

Plz sign!

alexiskool123

01-28-2006, 04:12 PM

just signed

havn't tried the beta yet but from what it sounds like, this series needs lots of work and i don't want the heroes series to go down in flames.

Zalmolxe

01-29-2006, 04:48 AM

I have been playing the Heroes series for 9 years now and i have seen it's good sides and it's bad sides...Yes, i liked more homm III than IV, but as a true fan i can't say i disliked Homm IV; and for sure i can say i'll buy Homm V the momment it's on the market! Even if you all are so desperate in pointing out some polishing and surface bugs.

You say that is not optimized for slower computers, but what beta is???? Tell me one producer that would release a beta version with everything in place...a beta is supposed to be with bugs and everything else so that the fans would correct them; if everything would be ok, then it wouldn't be a beta, would it?

Not to mention that on another thread Fabrice posted a comment that the final release would run on settings closer to the minimum ones; what else do u want?
+It does not even have such high requirements, all the recent FPS games have higher game specs.

So in my opinion, instead of trying to "sabotage" the release with petitions and stuff, you'd better give a hand in beta testing, report as many bugs as posible so the programmes would correct them. I believe this would be the right attitude of a true fan.
With requests like yours you do something like this: the producer works to build the game for several years, it brings it to the test phase and you look at it and say...no , we don't like it, take it back, change the engine, change the graphics , change everything, bring it back in one year and maybe then we'll like it.
And i am sure it's not going to happen, just as i am sure that ubi is not going to delay a single day with it's release, and i'll buy the game, and if i find a single bug i'll flood their e-mail until they'll put out a patch to fix it.

You say you don't want patches...it is impossible, every major game had dozens of patches...why, because lots of people played that game, and let's face it, the game will crash on our computers and we'll be the ones who will say if in campaign x when taking over castle y the game crashes with eror z. And they will put out a patch to fix that...that's the way things work, i don't know why things should be different now...

And one more thing ...we now what heroes is...but what about the newcommers? what if you would hear from your friend that there was a great game , heores ,and now there is a sequel on the market? Before buying it you would try to find out everything and if he or she stumbles on his/her search on a thread like this, he wil say...i am not going to buy this..if the fans are so against it, it must really be a piece of **** (sorry for the language); and this will ruin the game for sure.

Now, don't get me wrong, i am a true fan of this game, an i want it to be THE GREATEST GAME EVER, but this kind of attitude won't bring this to us...Save Heores V...Heroes doesn't need to be saved, it only needs players to crush themselves in epic battles in multiplayer lan or hot-seat, and a great saga to continue the legends of the might and magic universe...

I am sorry if i upset anyone here, and i respect your opinions, but i don't think your aproach will help in getting ourselves a better game.

Justice

01-29-2006, 04:55 AM

1548 now.

Zamolx... for the a lot time those who started this have played the closed beta for several months! Don't you think the know what they are talking abot? We haven't talked about slower computers and all of us have pointed out that this is only a beta... We don't say we don't want patches, we say we want a playable game which diesn't scare all the customers away... for more detatils dig a bit in the old posts, I don't want to repeat what people like Sir Charles (CHUCKLES), Znork, Zamolxis all the forum leaders... have stated before.

Now Znork... what on earth is a sals? a new Znorkish word for sails?

Labyrinth

01-29-2006, 05:16 AM

a new Znorkish word for sails?
More like "sales", eh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

NailagCiad

01-29-2006, 05:21 AM

Zalm- we're not asking for a redesign. We're asking that Nival is given enough time to get the game to a stage were major game modes are usable- things like Ghost mode or simultaneous turns. We might or might not like all the design decisions, but we'd dislike a halffinished game a lot more than one were every desig decision is made following our wishes. Bugs can be amended. The lost confidence in the series brought by a product that's missing major features can't.

Justice

01-29-2006, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by Labyrinth:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">a new Znorkish word for sails?
More like "sales", eh? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thgat sounds more probable than sails yes... to manny ships on my mind http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Else... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

http://www.castlegobs.nl/forums/index.php?s=708972ad2f8...1158&st=0&#entry9942 (http://www.castlegobs.nl/forums/index.php?s=708972ad2f8b374764e0cd7e370b337c&showtopic=1158&st=0&#entry9942)

This will get ubis attention but... did I read it right? Additionally, Heroes of Might and Magic 5 information will be removed from our web sites http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif or is it onlt the part about boycoting any new information i got right?

Labyrinth

01-29-2006, 05:57 AM

As of 2pm GMT today (Sunday 29th) administrators of the major Heroes of Might and Magic fan sites around the world have signed a News Suppression Pact in protest to a premature release of Heroes of Might and Magic 5.

The pact was signed by Age of Heroes (http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com) (International), Archangel Castle (http://www.archangelcastle.com) (France), Behemoth's Lair (http://mib.site.9o.pl/jb_h5/) (Poland), Castle Gobs (http://www.castlegobs.nl) (International), Celestial Heavens (http://www.celestialheavens.com) (International), Drachenwald (http://www.drachenwald.net) (Germany), The Genie's Lamp (http://www.the-genies-lamp.com/) (International), Guardian's Grove (http://www.guardiansgrove.com) (International), Heroic Corner (http://heroes.ag.ru) (Russia), La Torre de Marfil (http://www.torredemarfil.org) (Spain) and The Oracle League (http://www.oracleleague.com) (International). All other HOMM websites are also invited to join this pact.

As representatives of the online HOMM Community, we, the pact members, strongly believe that Heroes of Might and Magic 5 will not be of sufficient standard and quality if the release is rushed for March 2006. As admirers of HOMM series and supporters of the current Heroes 5 potential, we will not tolerate a blow delivered by the release of an incomplete and unbalanced game.

As an action of protest, following this announcement, no news or updates will be posted on our web sites. Additionally, Heroes of Might and Magic 5 information will be removed from our web sites. We request that Ubisoft officially confirms that the release date of Heroes of Might and Magic 5 will be delayed past March 2006, for a period of time sufficient to develop a balanced and fully functional game. We do not regard the announcement made on Gamespot as true until Ubisoft issues official confirmation.

As an indication of support for our protest, the SaveHeroes.org Petition (http://www.saveheroes.org/petition/) has been signed by over 1500 people in less than three days and received 30000 unique visitors. During the last week our web sites received more than 150000 visits.

We encourage all Heroes of Might and Magic fans to join our cause by signing the SaveHeroes.Org Petition (http://www.saveheroes.org/petition/) and to stop posting on the official Ubisoft forums and to use our forums instead.

Additionally, you can help our cause by inviting your friends to sign the petition, by e-mailing Ubisoft and by notifying the media and game retailers about this situation. For more ways to help, see SaveHeroes.Org (http://www.saveheroes.org).

Justice

01-29-2006, 06:01 AM

apparantly I got it right...just hope this will get the same result as when we in my school went against the government, surrounding theire headquarters, skipping school, blockades in the school, walking protest march in a blizzard... 3 weeks later we got what we wanted http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

However i can't help but feel sorry for al those who want Heroes V information and all has dissapeared...

KingAlamar

01-29-2006, 06:02 AM

Wow the ante has certainly been upped!!!!

Good luck you guys.

FYI: I hope that IF UBI announces that the game will ship ONLY when ready that the protest doesn't hurt sales. Of course you have to do what you have to do because if the game blows because it was rushed then HoMM is dead anyway.

Justice

01-29-2006, 06:06 AM

Will they really remove ALL info about heroes V?

Zalmolxe

01-29-2006, 06:08 AM

Well, let's consider it from this point of view:

Heroes 3 was and is a great game. What if in the building process the manufacturers would have said: we will give you a game with a mode that will permit simultaneous turns, and the , one month before the release you would have realized that there wasn't any mode....you reaction...unfinished game...not worthy....and you would have missed one of the best games ever.

On the other side, what would have happened, if after a year of playing homm III you got a patch containing an update that allowed you to play simultaneous turns...yur reaction: wow, great, excelent work programmers for thinking of this, it was a great game and now it's greater...

What i am trying to say is that maybe we'll all be in for a major surprise. Maybe what the guys at nival did was to take the backbone of Homm 3, and continuing it , giving it new life...New gameplay, new graphics, perhaps a very good story, and all these mixed with some good mutliplayer maps to keep you awake playing via lan or hot seat, the way we played heroes years ago.And maybe, just maybe, they'll release a patch containing all the new modes and original things promised.

If they try to release a game that has all the modes but some things are little crappy here, others are a little crappy there, hell, i'll subscribe ten times your petition to prevent that from happening. But if they'll give me a great Heroes game , in the style of Homm3, working great, optimized, and with a good campaign story and good multiplayer maps i won't mind if i have to wait another month until they get a patch with simultaneous mode working perfectly, and another 6 months with another original adition, this too working perfectly. Isn't this an acceptable solution, rather than taking the whole game back to manufacturers?

KingAlamar

01-29-2006, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by Zalmolxe:
I am sorry if i upset anyone here, and i respect your opinions, but i don't think your aproach will help in getting ourselves a better game.

I respect and mostly agree with your opinion. I HOPE that this could have been handled in another way.

However [playing devil's advocate] the only way that you will EVER get "the suits" to listen to you is by threatening them in the 1 place that they understand ... sales. If blackmail is what it takes then you just hope you get away with it without crippling what you're fighting for.

Eternor

01-29-2006, 06:09 AM

Well, for now the info is still up.

Justice

01-29-2006, 06:15 AM

Originally posted by Eternor:
Well, for now the info is still up.

Yes for now...

Else Zamolx... it isn't something as small as simultaneous truns, then I would never sign since I don't like that idea, since i am afraid that the NDA binds me from saying anything, I can only repeat what has been said. The AI is mildly said horrible, we had it in the closed. The rest I don't remembe i fthe helpers said so wait for one of theire answers or go searching for the old threads...

I would really like to know if they are serious about removing all the info about heroes V http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

znork

01-29-2006, 06:17 AM

Justice

01-29-2006, 06:17 AM

Celestial Heavens has posted the news too now... Genies Lamp too... haven't checked the others...

And thuss darkness crept over the land, and all living things awaited the inevitable doom...

Justice

01-29-2006, 06:19 AM

Znork... first i posted a link, then Lab posted the same as you and now you.- Don't you think people here have read it now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

NailagCiad

01-29-2006, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by Zalmolxe:
Heroes 3 was and is a great game. What if in the building process the manufacturers would have said: we will give you a game with a mode that will permit simultaneous turns, and the , one month before the release you would have realized that there wasn't any mode....you reaction...unfinished game...not worthy....and you would have missed one of the best games ever.

Yes. This is what happens when games ship without major features (case in point: Heroes 4). Maybe they could release it at end of march, but it would most likely be a game which barely has the game options that H3 had- and that's not what we've been led to expect.