Welcome to Myst V End of Ages

[Randomos]

Welcome to the new chapter in the Myst saga- spanning many years, and with wonders, challenges, and drama along the way. Join in the speculation and the discussion, the jokes and friendships and respect that makes this community exceptional. What do you imagine Myst V to be?

[maztec]

My vision and dream?

8 huge worlds with a game design that allows true multiple endings. Beautiful landscapes, a myriad of creatures and new life and inventions to explore. Everything touchable.

Ok, that's the dream.

Vision? Plasma Engine, First Person Perspective, all in-game humanoid characters that you interact with are filmed three dimensionally so you can move around them as they act and are imbedded into the environment. Allowing a unique touch of the real within the fantasy.

Plot?

Atrus dies, Katherine dies, natural deaths hopefully. Yeesha goes nuts, we explore her growing up, get to be a bit closer with the Bahro. Kind of a pre-story to Uru but the end-story for Myst.

Oh, and lots of chocolate!

[JeUhl]

So is this the end of all things Myst from Cyan? No more Novels or anything at all? Myst ends here?

[maztec]

Who knows. It could just be a title. It could be the end of Myst. It could be a precursor for greater things to come.

What do you want it to be?

[Tweek]

I for one would really like to see the Book of Marrim before it turns into the Holy Grail of the D'niverse.

Tweek

[GallifreyLady]

All I want right now is an answer. A conclusive, definitive, yes or no answer from either Cyan or Ubisoft, if Myst 5 is the end of the Myst storyline (meaning Atrus and his family), or the end of everything--Myst, Uru, the D'niverse, the whole shebang.

[Tocirpa]

Ahhh http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif Myst V: End of Ages

With a name like that there is no doubt in my mind that this will be another really really cool game!

My first question is:
Where's a screenshot? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

yeah!!!

[Eat_My_Shortz]

OMG!! This is incredible!
My first question is, is this Something Else or not???

Its Cyan and Ubisoft, so it sounds like it could be. But we've heard that Cyan didn't want to return to Myst, only D'ni. So who knows.
But if you check the release date (Fall 2005, one year after Myst IV) it sounds like it must be SE, otherwise how would they have the time to develop it.

"Come back! I need closure on that anecdote!"

[Deg__]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>What do you imagine Myst V to be? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I imagine...
a return to D'ni,
a conversation with Yeesha,
and a look at a bahro.

I would love to pilot a boat in D'ni,
visit K'veer, see Phil, Sharper, and RAWA.

Cheers,
- Deg -

[Mysti Sage]

Whether this is or is not the End of all Ages, or the end of Cyan Worlds, remains to be seen.

As for what I'd like EOA to be...

I'd like to have an avatar again, and the 3rd person camera. I'd like to see Negilahn and Noloben, Kahlo and Todelmer. I'd like to see a Bahro, learn more about Yeesha's life, and know what happens to Atrus and Katran. I'd like for it to not be a rushed game. I'd like for it to have as many hours of gameplay as Riven did for me, or more. I'd like to find out what killed Anna, and I'd like to see at least some part of Releeshahn in some form. I'd like for the visuals to be on par with Riven and Uru, and for Tim Larkin, Jack Wall, or Robyn Miller to do the soundtrack. I'd like for so many things that it would be impossible to fit it into one game.


I'd like... I'd like... I would love for this to not be the the End.

[Korora]

I want Ages with a lot of birds.

Eudyptula albosignata

[dr.sputnik]

Mysti Sage said most of what I wanted to!

But I'll add - real time 3D with 3rd person view (with an option for 1st) would be great! If not that, then utterly stunning pre-renders like the latest Myst game...

I really hope it's in Plasma though - for me that's the ability to really be there!

Oh what am I on about - just make sure it's as good as or better than the previous ones and I'll be happy!!!

[Eat_My_Shortz]

Lol - theres been a bit of an edit frenzy over at Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myst_franchise

I jumped on there and added a Myst V entry on that page. No sooner had I finished, than Myst V had been added to the list on the side (somehow?) and someone had created a Myst V page for my link to link to.

Ain't Wikipedia great?

[mszv]

Testing

[Eat_My_Shortz]

Ohh didn't see this one.
http://www.mystobsession.com/?module=news

Translation of the german one!
Looks like this *is* the last Myst game. But hopefully not the last from D'ni or from Cyan.

Oh and, rebuilding D'ni? Wait is this a Myst game or an Uru game? And will it involve Releeshahn.
(Come on, there is NO WAY they will leave Releeshahn out now, not after making us wait four years to see it).

[mszv]

Yes, Myst V is, as far as I know "Something Else".

[UbiqriDNIculous]

It sure as heck is!!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[RaPhil]

wow - they sure started a MystV forum quick. But now it needs colours (Aussie Spelling) etc.

What do I imagine for MystV? Releeshan at the end, where we look through that imager we use in MystIV to see the D'ni civilisation alive and well in their new land - and hints that they know we are there!!

[mszv]

The colors and all that are coming!

[brilers]

My biggest wish for a Myst game (or any game for that matter) is a truly dynamic storyline. Creating the game so that each time you play, you may follow the same chain of events, but you may learn different things from different characters - i.e. the first time I play the game I may get some information from character Y, but the next time I play it I may get that same information from character Z in place N and perhaps with character Z's own personal interpretation... hard as heck I'm sure to implement and/or write guides for, but a great way to extend playability - you don't necessarily get the WHOLE of the storyline your first time through...

[RaPhil]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mszv:
Yes, Myst V is, as far as I know "Something Else". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well forgive me for saying so, but that is not fair!! *tantrum and stomping of feet*

How can they tell us they are working on Something Else, then tell us it is MystV when that isnt anyting else at all??http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/joann99/cussing.gif

/end rant

(But I love the idea of another Myst game) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/joann99/colourjumping.gif

[mszv]

It's the classic problem with adventure games - it's always the same, so the replayability is akin to rereading a good book. Some RPGs are better at that - when you replay the game, depending on your choices, it is a different experience.

You know, on the "Something Else" - I thought about it, and I'm really not sure it's the same, might just be an assumption of mine!

[Prof.Olphart]

All I can say is, NO TIMED PUZZLES!!! I have had to give up on Myst 4 because of that furshlugginer crystal locked door on Spire. And, naturally, behind that door is the secret to unlocking the brothers workshop door on Serenia. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
(sigh) Does anyone have the 'backdoor' keystroke code for fooling the computer into opening that door for me so I can finish the game?

[Mystical Explorer]

oooooooooooooh! This is so exciting! I can't wait to see what sort of places we're gonna visit! Can we have a screenshot? Pleeeeease? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BTW: I dont think this is Something ElseTM See This Thread (http://www.uruobsession.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=86&t=17268&s=4bd714e96d9924e575c6b1d2818bc7a1) at Uru Obsession.

[Coronagold]

News Flash.

There are (2) Something Elses. One is Ubi....Myst V. The other is Cyan....a continuation of the D'ni civilization, & sooner or later, (most likely sooner), Releeshan, etc.

So fear not. the magic is still there.

[mszv]

Myst V is being developed by Cyan. Ubisoft is the publisher.

[Coronagold]

News Flash.

How could Cyan create Myst V & the 2nd Something Else (D'ni, Releeshan) at the same time? Myst V involves quite a few earlier underdeveloped Uru Ages. Cyan is not up to that task. Ubi is. This gives Cyan the room & time to further develop the concepts of the D'ni & Releeshan.

[RaPhil]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/joann99/happyOT1.gif

Sorry to go off-topic here, Corona: Where has your picture gone? here piccie, picccie.....here piccie, piccie!!

[Coronagold]

RaPhil, that is a question for the ages, no pun intended. I tried to fix it but I couldn't. I tried to erase it, but I couldn't. Nothing works. I'm not surprised. But......here we are. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Eat_My_Shortz]

Corona, where did you get this idea that there are 2 something elses(tm) and that Cyan is not working on Myst V.

It says clearly in both articles that Cyan is working on Myst V. See Rand's interview, where he says that V will be the final Myst game.

I was reading the MystObs forum:
http://www.uruobsession.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=86&t=17251&hl=
Where they are all extremely depressed that a) this is the last one, and b) its called "End of Ages".

Well, I think its better to go out with a bang than to release "just another game" which happens to be the last one, and then we are left with an uncomplete series. I mean, lets face it, Myst is no longer as popular as it was twelve years ago or eight years ago (Riven). Its good that Cyan have the guts to stand up and say, "The ending will be written, and it shall be good!"

On the name, wow, it is such a magnificent name. It provokes the grandeur of the end of it all.

But, wow, this really is quite a turning point. The end of Myst. After twelve years and seven games (if you include realMyst).
I don't have any sadness though. As long as this is the best game.. Now...

There is a lot of talk about "when is it set" and "are we the stranger from Myst/Riven/Exile/Revelation" (wow isnt it funny to talk about Revelation in past tense so soon) "or are we ourselves/avatars from Uru".
And then theres all sorts of theories, are we both, and Yeesha sent the avatar back in time to Myst 1 to help Atrus, etc.

I'm kinda hoping its set after Myst IV, and we are the stranger, and we dont have an avatar. Why? Well Uru was a great game. The sense that it was 2003 and it was "now" was great, this exploration of the long-lost civilisation from the modern point of view.
It was the start of a good story. But it was not the conclusion to Myst. If Myst is to be concluded properly, it should be from the point of view of the characters and time in which it began. I would not like all of Myst to end with "a bunch of explorers in 2005 came and found out this information" I would like to play it.

OBVIOUSLY it will have Releeshahn. It simply must. I am hoping Rel will be a full age, possibly the centre of the game. Since its called "End of Ages" I'm thinking something bad might happen to Releesahn, like it gets destroyed. And thats why you don't hear about it in Uru.

Thats the great thing about single player games (and we saw this in Riven). You can have a tremendous terrible thing happen like the destruction of a whole age, yet if it happens at the end of the game, still keep all the memories and be able to revisit them over and over again. So I think that would be a wonderful ending or storyline.

Anyway, thats what I'm hoping for, besides more SCREENSHOTS (plz!). Can't wait.

[RaPhil]

EMS - you will have to resurrect your GoG log-on to see the post that Tijara put up. She has her sources that say there is MystV and Something Else (TM) and Tweek has now said the same.

Edit: if you read This thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=cfrm&s=400102&f=7071093262) you will see that Kha'tie has posted something RAWA has said too. And This thread (http://www.uruobsession.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=86&t=17268&s=9422fea856c71af3af8384eb256e9314) on UO has info as well.

[KitsuneNoYuki]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by brilers:
My biggest wish for a Myst game (or any game for that matter) is a truly dynamic storyline. Creating the game so that each time you play, you may follow the same chain of events, but you may learn different things from different characters - i.e. the first time I play the game I may get some information from character Y, but the next time I play it I may get that same information from character Z in place N and perhaps with character Z's own personal interpretation... hard as heck I'm sure to implement and/or write guides for, but a great way to extend playability - you don't necessarily get the WHOLE of the storyline your first time through... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That sounds like a cool idea. Another thing I was thinking about...thought about it when I was playing Revelation, and I opened the hatch on Yeesha's beetle cage...What if the ending also is based on your actions during the game? I don't mean the decisions you make in the end, I mean the decisions you make during the game itself.

I basically got this idea from Pandora Directive - which has many endings, based on dialogue and actions. If this were to be implemented into Myst V, I think it would just be actions.

Just a thought. I think it would be nice if the entire game had some moral decisions in it besides just the endgame ones like we had before.

[oh-foon]

just a question EMS. you said

"Anyway, thats what I'm hoping for, besides more SCREENSHOTS (plz!)."

have there been screenshots already?

Or was that just a mistype?

[RaPhil]

We have seen one screenshot

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/joann99/Joann%20personal/thumbnail_mystv.jpg

[Tweek]

You know that was dismissed as being a screenie over at UO apparently it was left over art from Uru.

Tweek

[RaPhil]

That would be right, throw us a bone, then don't put meat on it!!

[mszv]

Corona, I don't know what else Cyan is working on (if anything!), but I do know that Myst V is a Cyan developed game.

[DebbieDec2003]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Can finally post. The silly forum software wasn't letting me in. Well, I'm happy, of course, but sad too. I'm a tad worried at the Title "End of Ages". But yes, I agree, go out with a bang, not a whimper.

I'd love to see what Atrus has to say, how Catherine does, what Yeesha is like. And to see that far away place of Releeshahn. I'd love to have the 3D world and all it's coolness. I'd love to have Tim Larkin music in there. I'd love a game that's easy to install. I'd love to have a game that became as loved in my heart as Riven is. I hope that they do great work and that all the game reviewers give it high marks. I hope they don't let the D'ni language and culture die with the release of this game.

Maybe this is the end? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[Anidor]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by maztec:
Atrus dies, Katherine dies, natural deaths hopefully. Yeesha goes nuts, we explore her growing up, get to be a bit closer with the Bahro. Kind of a pre-story to Uru but the end-story for Myst.

Oh, and lots of chocolate! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't want to Atrus to die.... (neither Katherine..) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[Eat_My_Shortz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Corona, where did you get this idea that there are 2 something elses(tm) and that Cyan is not working on Myst V.

It says clearly in both articles that Cyan is working on Myst V. See Rand's interview, where he says that V will be the final Myst game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sorry if that sounded a bit accusatory. We're just all a bit confused. I really don't know *if* there are 2 games or one, which is why Im asking...

The more the merrier I say. It seems wierd though that SE was scheduled for release late 2005, and so is this.

OT, whats with these forums? Sometimes you cant get in, it says you dont have permission to view.

[veralun]

I am looking forward to this!
And I believe this is not the end. Also not that this is Something Else. That will be the follow up. Something different!

[Deg__]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eat_My_Shortz:
OT, whats with these forums? Sometimes you cant get in, it says you dont have permission to view. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We're currently working on getting a skin set up. We're also aware that many users are experiencing problems logging into and posting in the forum (I was one of these users). The forum was launched rather quickly because we wanted to provide a place for fans to share their hopes and fears and hopefully clarify concerns. Keep in mind the game hasn't been officially announced yet to the mass public (via press release). We're working on the forums and appreciate your patience as we get things set up.

Cheers,
- Deg -

[DebbieDec2003]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Yeah, kinda got that idea when even Khatie couldn't get in http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Oh well, it's all speculation now. You know what this reminds me of? The day before the huge announcement at the beginning of February. We all knew there was something coming but nobody had a clue. And then utter sadness, tears, the feeling like the world made less sense suddenly. Then as the news works its way through the brain and you take the time to think about it, it all starts to make sense somehow. We'll survive afterwards. Even if this is the End, this community will live on. I'm sure of that fact. From the look of the different posts about: Tweek saying it's the Plasma engine, reading into the German translation of the interview: I think we're getting a D'ni wrap-up. This is just my specualation - nothing known for sure, at all. Whatever the news, it can't be sadder than hearing URU Live was closing. That was brutal news. So bring it on. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

[Deg__]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ToriaUru:
You know what this reminds me of? The day before the huge announcement at the beginning of February. ... And then utter sadness, tears, the feeling like the world made less sense suddenly. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

When I first heard the news, I was worried about how the fan community was going to react. I was afraid it would turn into a lot of angry posts, and was quite happy to see that 98% of fans reacted kindly to the news. There was sadness and joy, and it was all expressed politely. THAT's why I love this community so much. After spending most of the day going back between five different Myst forums, helping clear up questions and helping where I could, I realized yet again that we've got a lot of great, caring Myst fans.

Cheers,
- Deg -

[bootzatpitt]

I"m so glad I don't have to wait several years for MYST 5 to be released. Hooray!! I loved the whole series. Maybe afeter this last game I'll just play the series over and over again

[JadesDream]

Originally posted by Randomos:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>What do you imagine Myst V to be? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A MMORPG on par with Final Fantasy XI, with spectacular graphics and puzzles that require actual problem-solving skills, not chance. The story would reveal that Atrus is the reason his family is so dysfunctional and everyone would have turned out ok if he had somehow been lost in one of his Ages. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

To be perfectly honest, no matter the storyline or engine that is used...no matter if it's 1st person or 3rd...point and click or 3D...I don't care who does the music or which actor stars in or does voice-overs...no matter if it's the end of the Ages or the beginning...I will be the first in line to buy Myst V...and I'm sure I'll see all of you there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[alanvg]

I want 3D Plasma engine with the opportunity to play LAN connected with other players so we can share the experience. Not necessarily MMORPG, but the ability to explore in a group if you want by connecting in LAN mode would be cool.

I also want this "Final" Myst game to be just that, the last of the Myst games, not the last game set in the D'niverse.

And while I am wishing, I think it would be great if this "Final" Myst game bridged the gap between the "stranger" we are in the Myst series and ourselves in the modern D'niverse from Uru.

[Katreena]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JadesDream:
Originally posted by Randomos:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>What do you imagine Myst V to be? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A MMORPG on par with Final Fantasy XI, with spectacular graphics and puzzles that require actual problem-solving skills, not chance. ...and I'm sure I'll see all of you there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, that!

A place where we can go together and solve the puzzles of Myst as a group. We have developed such wonderful friendships over the past year, that it would be fantastic to explore with them, and to make new friends.

Maybe the online experience was more special because we were bonded together with Uru being put to bed, but I have never finished PoTS or Myst IV because I find it too lonely now. (And I was one of the devoted Myst players who were just going to play Uru without going online!)

But, whatever Myst V is, I will buy it and enjoy it!

[noah_berry]

Personally, I'd like Myst V to return more towards the feel and atmosphere of the original Myst and Riven.

I've always enjoyed the settings that were completely isolated - no other people, no animals etc. The same goes for music. I much prefer the in-game music that doesn't have any lyrics, or vocal arrangements, choral harmonies etc. Somehow, the instrumental pieces just have more integrity and sincerity and sound more beautiful, relaxing, timeless and wistful.

I'd like to play in a world where I can really breathe and escape from reality and all other beings. No time constraints, no jumping sequences...just relaxed, detailed cerebral puzzles, adventures and exploration in richly detailed, fantastical settings.

The avatar was an interesting concept for URU, but it did not feel like a true Myst gameplay element - largely because of the shift in focus from the world to the player. Additionally, the 3rd person perspective made for very clunky controls and hindered, awkward gameplay movement and interaction. A 1st person, cursor driven interface is preferable IMHO. If this can be done in 3D, all the better.

Technically, it would be nice if Myst V was not limited to 800x600 and could support higher and widescreen resolutions. 3D sound and 3rd party effects like EAX would be most welcome. I'd love to see locations in the game have true day--night cycles that progressed slowly while in the game world. Perhaps even weather effects. Seeing the locations change in relation to time and weather would be amazing.

[Khatie_]

Yay! I can get on the Myst V forums!!

Thanks to Deg for answering the questions while we've been putting the pieces together. I can't skin the forum until I'm allowed to use official screenshots of the game... so until the official announcement I need to hold off.

In the meantime, enjoy the speculation and excitement about a new chapter in the series... I know I am!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

[Ja_de]

I had a lot of questions at the end of Myst 4. And so on. I think Myst V should answer all these questions and thus put an end to the Myst saga. But when 1 door closes, another opens. We know from tpots, that Yeesha can time travel. Think of the possibilities this opens. We as Yeesha or Kadish (who she apparently saved) travel in time and what we do there, effects the outcome of our game. This is what I think somethingelse is about. That makes the game replayable many times and is different than anything else I've played.
Edit: Removed my questions as it was never my intent to spoil things for others.

Official Announcement here (http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050112/125292_1.html)
Hint of what's to come here (http://www.delmas75.com/blog.html)

[Lotto49]

As this game is called Myst V, and not Uru II, I want it to be about Atrus, Catherine and family, about the Ages which they have inhabited and created. Although to me Myst will always mean gorgeous pre-rendered environments, I would be happy for Myst V to be realtime 3D, but only in first person. As someone else said, to play a Myst game in third person would be too different.

My other hopes:
1. That we will see Releeshan. Only Cyan are allowed to use it, and if we don't see it in this, the (probably) final Myst game, we never will.

2. That Myst V won't really include stuff from Uru. The Uru storyline and premise is to some extent separate from Myst, and it would be strange to have it included in the wrap-up of Myst. I think that there may be another Something Else (though this has all got pretty confusing), and that this will include the leftovers from Uru Live, or something.

[dalboz]

I have an idea in terms of the story. In Myst IV, we discovered that the books that the two brothers were trapped in were not merely prison books but were Ages without linking books out until Atrus created the visitation cells. In Myst V, Gehn will escape from his prison (I don't know how, but remember that he was able to create his own linking books while on Riven), will steal the Releeshan book and attempt to rewrite it in his own image. This would explain why Releeshan was never mentioned in Uru, if it gets destroyed or the real Age is "lost". It makes Gehn a much more threatening villain with his intellect and extreme megalomaniacal tendencies. This, IMO, would tie all the games together very nicely.

As far as what I would like to see, I would like one of the Ages to be Myst island. I would like to go back there one last time before the story ends. I would also like to visit at least one Age that Katherine wrote as mentioned in "Myst: The Book of Atrus". Something very surreal, like the dreamscape in Myst IV, but also more tangible. Swimming among the stars, as it were. And, of course, to finally visit Releeshan, before and possibly after the destruction that may occur.

[stellaflora]

I've been reading around some of the other forums and it is definetly in Realtime 3D (much to my disappointment). I feel that this is a bad moove. The high quality of Pre rendered is part of what made Myst so magical. Uru is nice but in it's own way, it wasn't a myst game and wouldn't have been advertised as such if Cyan had had their way from what i've heard.

[Mysthints]

oops...double post. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

[stellaflora]

This is the only offical screenshot that I can find.

Very Big Picture (http://mms.businesswire.com/bwapps/mediaserver/ViewMedia?mgid=37078&vid=5)

The graphics don't look any better than in URU.
Not up to Myst series standeds in my opinion.

I'm hoping that Myst 5 will take place in the past, with us as the stranger. After all, Uru was intended to be an offshoot of the main Myst series wasn't it? And if it is part of the series, how come the Mac port was canceled? All other offical Myst titles were for both, so it would be unfair to exclude all Mac users from part of the story.

And I hope that this will be Mac compatible, even though I don't have one, it would still be unfair to those who only have them.

[Mysthints]

What do I imagine Myst V to be?

I'm actually pretty excited that it will be realtime 3D--it makes the worlds feel so alive and real. If Cyan can take Uru's graphics and improve them just a bit (my biggest wish is more realistic avatars...I have a feeling we'll be seeing a 3rd person option again), I'll be really happy. I have a feeling we'll be seeing Yeesha again, too...probably filling in some details about her parents and the past Myst stories, as well as more about herself and the D'ni. I'm actually hoping we don't hear more about the Bahro or the DRC (call me crazy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif)--I doubt we'll see Releeshahn, but that's ok with me. I'm hoping to visit Noloben and Negilahn especially, if they're included. Of course, I want to see more of D'ni, and be able to not just walk the streets but go inside many of the buildings and interact with as much as possible. It would be cool to meet a D'ni survivor (or two...or more...), too...

Thank you for everything, Cyan! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[Update] Yes, it will be Mac compatible, on a hybrid disk. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[RaPhil]

Oh nohttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/joann99/worried.gif - please don't post spoilers about the previous games....I haven't finished MystIV yet!!

[stellaflora]

I havn't even started it. Did you have to post that? Revelation hasn't been out long enought for everyone even to have bought it, at lest with the other myst games it's unlikly that many people havn't finised them all yet, having been out for several years.
I'm not having a go at you, I'm sure you didn't mean to let that slip.

[Tora_Neko]

What would I like to see? Most of it has been said already. I'd like a wrap up of the Myst storyarch, but not touching Uru (the time gap is too large for that unless Yeesha time warps us). I'd like to be the stranger in first person, like all the other Myst games (except Uru). I want to see how Yeesha changed from the girl in Revelation to the adult in Uru. I'd like to see Myst island, the D'ni cavern, Releeshan, and other Ages. I'd also like a glimse into Katran's dreamlike Age from BoA.

One question I'd like answered... if End of Ages is Something Else, what is Ages of Ilathid? http://ilathid.losing-ground.net/

[the_fibber]

Hey everyone, long time no see. NEW FORUM! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Now it's natural for everyone to think that this will be the last myst game ever (the title End of Ages does sound final) but I've been reading over the announcement on Myst Worlds:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Cyan Worlds and Ubisoft are proud to announce the next chapter of the Myst saga <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Key words there are "next chapter" it doesn't say final chapter, but rather the next chapter in the series. It could also be the last game ever, but they havn't specifically said that.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> which will be the culmination of all of the previous storylines. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This just says to me that they'll tie up all loose ends and bring everything to a satisfying conclusion. They culminated all previous storylines at the end of Series 2 of the West Wing, but that didn't stop them making series 3.

On the other hand, though, look at what has happened to other long running adventure/rpg games:

Kings Quest eventually moulded into an action combat game that almost nobody played.

Police Quest turned from adventure to interactive movie, to real time squad strategy and finally a SWAT game with no reference to police quest.

Lesiure Suit Larry is now a puzzle game with sex.

Ultima 9 was loathed by all, but mostly by its fans for being just far too bug ridden. Ultima X was going to be a MMORPG, but that got cancelled.

Myst is one of the few game series that has maintained its charm, quality, and dare I say it, dignity over the years of its incarnation. But there's got to be a point when it ends. We could have a great story in the myst universe, with new characters, ages and stories.

But Atrus and Katherine can't live forever. Yeesha may have managed it (I'm not too sure) but we know Atrus and Katherine don't. All things must pass.

(I consider it quite quite ironic that I'm listening to Queen's "The Show Must Go On" while I type this. Go figure. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif)

[Takua-Kaita-600]

Yes, see, this game ends the MYST saga. And, a coupla things:

1) Nobody said URU wa finished. Some said POTS was "the last expansion pack" But no one said URU was finished.

2) People are debating whether this is SE or not. From my understanding, the general idea is that it is not, adn there is indeed "Something else" awaiting us.


Add two and two, folks. I see a new URU game in the works.

[Coronagold]

SE1=MV
SE2=?

[Khatie_]

MV = MV
SE = SE.
SE2 = SE2.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[Coronagold]

SE3 =?

[rw.]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JadesDream:
Originally posted by Randomos:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>What do you imagine Myst V to be? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

CLIP

To be perfectly honest, no matter the storyline or engine that is used...no matter if it's 1st person or 3rd...point and click or 3D...I don't care who does the music or which actor stars in or does voice-overs...no matter if it's the end of the Ages or the beginning...I will be the first in line to buy Myst V...and I'm sure I'll see all of you there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not if I beat you in line first Jades http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[Eat_My_Shortz]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Not if I beat you in line first Jades <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah I was about to say!

OK firstly I'd like to repost this link StellaFlora found. Its by far the highest res copy of this shot I've seen:
http://mms.businesswire.com/bwapps/mediaserver/ViewMedia?mgid=37078&vid=5
That'll go nice on my wallpaper.

OK now there are LOTS of sources floating around now. A new press announcement: (the official one)
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050112/125292_1.html

And MystObsession just found this new interview with Cyan:
http://www.mystobsession.com/?module=news

So its pretty much confirmed:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI> Myst V is the final Myst game
<LI> Cyan are working on another SE which has nothing to do with Myst! It is not a First-person Shooter http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
<LI> Actually, its not a game! "Brandkamp declined to give more details about the new project, other than to say it should not be called a game."
<LI> There will soon be a website HERE: myst5.ubi.com (http://myst5.ubi.com)
[/list]
Very excited!
However as I've often said, it wouldnt be good to have Gehn escape from his trap book so soon after Sirrus and Achenar escaped from their trap books. But I have faith in Cyan. Heres to MYST FIVE!!!

[Fissure_Walker]

Don't forget, at the time, Cyan had wanted Riven to be the final Myst game.

But, with that said, I'd like to revisit Myst, visit Releeshan, and have Gehn escape.

I'd like to learn that Riven isn't completely destroyed and we face of with Gehn there.

And if Atrus should die, I would wish for him to die on K'veer.

[Eat_My_Shortz]

If Atrus were to die, it would have to be after he sent Yeesha to the Cleft, and before Uru because remember the note.

On another note, I like the new colour scheme.

But whats with the logo? It doesnt have a "V" in it, just the D'ni 5. That could get really confusing for non-Myst-avids. Also wouldn't it look really nice with a huge "V" in the background, in the same style as the big "V" in the middle of "riVen"?

[Mysthints]

The new forum looks awesome http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif ! Nice logo!

[NGW1031982]

This is what I would like to see in Myst V. :
1. Same graphic layout. IE: 360 degree pan view in a single place.
This will allow a real feeling of the Myst series and games sequels. I know that a 3rd person view and other enhancements would be really cool, but I also believe that the more "classic" interface will allow a true Myst sequel feel. After all, URU is not a true sequel, but simply a jump in time with ONE familiar character, who never shows up except as a hologram. (URU is a GREAT game as well.)

2. Improved graphics and sound.

3. Time consuming! All the Myst games are, if this one isn't, then it's NOT Myst.

4. As others have said, have the story jump a few years and show Yeesha either at the point of insanity or already insane. Also, learn what killed Anna and what happens/happened to Atrus and Katherine.

[Deg__]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mysthints:
The new forum looks awesome http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif ! Nice logo! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks! I had a lot of fun making it.

Cheers,
- Deg -

[RaPhil]

Great look for the forum - that will teach me for not refreshing often.

[Grizz65]

At last I can get in here. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Unlike some others, I'm not particularly concerned about whether Myst 5 is the end of the Myst saga entirely, because I believe that Cyan will not simply end with the end of the saga. Why not give these wonderful folks scope for something 'completely different'?

Oh yes, I'll be standing in line waiting when Myst 5 comes out, but that would be true of anything from this group of devs.

Now, my two cents worth on content. I come to adventure/role-playing games for the sheer mental exercise of it. It seems pointless to me to have any puzzles dependent on mouse skills, or time, rather than on intellect. And in the same way, some of those frellin' jumps in Uru were enough to drive me into fits. I knew what to do, but so much of the success of the thing depended on the connection more than anything else. I don't know how many times I was ready for a jump in Gahreesen, when lag reared its ugly head, and the jump went down the tubes for that reason alone. That is not a puzzle. That is pure aggravation!

One more thing I would like to see, whatever the engine, is a good, reliable Zip mode of some kind. One that is more like the beautiful Zip mode on that ancient Myst game. hehehe
Just a point and a click, and you're there.

I have to thank Cyan, and Ubi, for the endless hours of enjoyment, whatever the game. It's an imperfect world, but Cyan's games, in my humble opinion, are closer to perfect all around than any other set on the market. Kudos!!

[Eat_My_Shortz]

Thanks for the nice words Grizz. Too true.

By the way did you guys see my link above - Cyan is making SE after MV.

Also, heres a link to my new Myst V page on EMS Relto:
EMS Relto - Myst V (http://www.geocities.com/emsrelto/games/myst5.html)

[DebbieDec2003]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eat_My_Shortz:
Also, heres a link to my new Myst V page on EMS Relto:
http://www.geocities.com/emsrelto/games/myst5.html <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I saw that wonderful new page. Good work EMS! I loved the way you put the speculation water-mark (is that the right word?) behind the speculation stuff.

Deg - Wonderful job on the colours. Great work and lovely new, fresh feel for our new Myst V forum.

Yes, that Spokane WA paper article quoted at Uru Obsession sounds interesting. Makes you wonder what the new trademark they applied for will be used for? NOT a video game???? Huh?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

*scratches head in puzzlement*

[Alahmnat]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Deg__:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mysthints:
The new forum looks awesome http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif ! Nice logo! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks! I had a lot of fun making it.

Cheers,
- Deg - <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
How do the colors look, Deg? Should I go for more pink? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

*runs from Katie*

[RaPhil]

ooooh - light blue now!! Nice!

[DaDungeon]

In DaDungeon Tink has the most "loose cannon" of imaginations.

It struck again while reading this thread.

"What if," she suddenly said, voice cutting echoes all over left field. "What if The End of Ages meant that ALLLLLLLL the descriptive books somewhere in one Age suddenly developed a bad case of bahro flu."

She grinned as mischief grabbed the steering mechanism of the cannon.

"Then, when somebody used the descriptive book's linking books, the bahro book flu got into the linking book. And from the linking book into anyone that used it.

And from anyone who used an infected linking book into the next linking book that was used.

And from the next linking book that was used into that linking book's descriptive book.

Each one infected: dead in the water.

End of Ages.

Hafta figure out the bahro's way of linking . . .
or spaceships and warp speed.

Get tight with Piccard . . .
or SG-1 . . .
or the Borg . . .
or The Bearded One.

Yeah, that's the ticket!"

The rest of The Mental Mob in DaDungeon made Tink go sit in a corner of DahLahboahdahtoahdy of D'niet Cola and Arby's Chicken Salad Sandwiches.

The corner farthest away from that little machine she's gotten to working. The one that transports her into many places via waaaay ancient T'nk System technology. Way waaaaay far away from that little machine.

Yep.

[Eat_My_Shortz]

Oh yeah, the colours *are* changing. Nice, I like this one. Gj Deg and Alahmnat and anyone else.
(Is this why the forums are going down periodically for permission denied).

Guess we ran out of things to talk about... lol, Cyan we need more information!!

The trademark "Latus" - I believe that was Rand's website, so the trademark apparently is nothing to do with Cyan, its just Rand's site needing updating legally.

OR it could be this other SE. By now we all know there IS another SE and its NOT a game and its NOTHING to do with MREDURE.

(MREDURE being the acronym we've been adding to every time a game comes out. It now stands for Myst-Riven-Exile-D'ni-Uru-Revelation-EndO***es)
EDIT: Acronym, not Algorithm. Sheesh! I been doing too much coding.

[GTJon]

Wasn't it a little bit to do with the D'ni universe? At least, RAWA's been about as clear as he ever is. (http://www.uruobsession.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=86&t=17268&s=4cc1fdea930d94bb7b6c954bb366f843)

[AnnikaWaern]

A couple of loose threads:

Releeshahn - you have to show us this age!

I'd love to get to know both Anna and Katran better, too. What happened to Anna?

Concerning technology, I think that the 3D engine used for Uru needs improvement but potentially, it could be really good. The problem as I see it is that in a pre-rendered game, you can afford to have lots of detail in all closeups that you choose to include. In a 3D game, if you walk up to something you were not intended to view at close range, you see a texture. That breaks immersion.

The Uru avatars are great - I think it adds to immersion that you can create a really personal avatar (mine is thinner than I look in reality though ;-), even if the game is single-user. Quite frankly, I have had enough of the stranger!

I suspect that with a 3D-based game, the NPCs will be avatars and not actors. That IS a bit of a shame, especially with the Atrus character. If there was any way to get around this, I'd love to see it done.


Finally, if there was some technology I'd love to see added, it would be dialogue. The ability to talk to the NPCs (even if the input alternatives are text and pre-scripted). I'd also love to see it play a role in the game --- which brings me to the last point:

UNOBVIOUS ALTERNATIVES! Make it seriously possible to the WRONG thing sometimes and end up with a sad or somehow 'wrong' ending! Include early endings that are realistic alternatives to the player, if he or she have been playing too quickly and missed clues. I think that most Myst players are highly intelligent and would enjoy this challenge (it's like a higher level puzzle).

[Eat_My_Shortz]

Hi Annika, welcome to the Forums!

Also, good job guys on the brown links. I was getting sick of the links being the same colour as the text! (As on Myst IV forum).

If you have a look at the one only Myst V shot, it actually looks really really detailed. Edging towards Myst IV and awaay from Uru. This is GOOD.

Now there is a way around 3D characters, which was done in realMyst. Its a bit restrictive, but basically, you just film the actors from a certain perspective. Whenever the player has to talk to them, you just lock them in place, and only let them pan around instead of being able to move freely.

But I think they will go for 3D avatars. Firstly its very expensive and time-consuming to film live actors. Secondly, Rand keeps stating that he doesnt like being Atrus. I guess he finally gets his way.

(But, OH BOY atrus had BETTER be in the last Myst game!!! If its actually set after Uru this could be difficult, unless theres time travel.)

But I really agree on the endings. If you played Myst IV, I bet you have a hankering for some more endings!

[DebbieDec2003]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Releeshahn - you have to show us this age!

Concerning technology, I think that the 3D engine used for Uru needs improvement but potentially, it could be really good.
UNOBVIOUS ALTERNATIVES! Make it seriously possible to the WRONG thing sometimes and end up with a sad or somehow 'wrong' ending! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Welcome to the forums Annika! And yes, very good points about the 3D engine.

I love your idea also about Unobvious alternatives. That would be cool for sure.

[Almlys]

Well I think that:

* Well, based on the Uru Plasma 2 engine, The entire netcore has been removed, and the physics engine replaced with a better one. They are using another higher encryption to secure the game data files against cheating...
There will be easter eggs, that will show something about Cyan's next project http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

and, we will be able to see some of the ages, that were planned to be released on Uru Live. And we are going to see Releeshahn http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (I hope).

And it will be translated to several languages, and will sell more copyes than "put here a name of another game that has sold a considerable number of copyes".

Also, Cyan will fascinate us about mixing actors on a completely 3d realtime world. Also, they have found a way to display animated linking-books on the next version of the Plasma engine.

And the game has exactly 5 different endings.

I only was dreamming... I sure that is going to be completely different...

[RaPhil]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/joann99/yeahthat.gif

That all sounds like great wishes Almlys!! I will second those.

And, welcome to the forums Annika!!

[shadowcats]

YAY for me I made it in. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Anyway whatever it is I don't want to play alone.
*goes to check out other posts*

[albezuno]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> What do you imagine Myst V to be? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My hopes is :visit toldemer and the unknow ages, and to see my friend Doug for the last time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[stellaflora]

Myst Obsession has put up a page with all released screenshot Here (http://www.mystobsession.com/?module=Gallery&galleryid=2)

I have my doubts about having the last myst game in 3D, looking at the Desert and Tunnles pics the textures look rather unconvincing for my liking (theyve put cobblinging on the walls!) and rather re-used (even on the screenshots meantioned I can recodnise some textures used in URU)

However:
look at Noloben and Todelmer, now those look far nicer. Just look at the sky and the sea from that beach! I'm hoping that most of the game will be in that sort of quality, even if it takes ages for the age to load.

Now it looks like we will be making our way to D'ni (or back) though the route that Aitrus found after the main tunnles were blocked by the earthquakes. I imagine it will take less time for us then it did for them, (several days seams a little extreme don't you think? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

<span class="ev_code_BROWN">(Moderator note: After eating all of the ice cream that all new Moderators get, I got a bit carried away and accidentally edited the wrong post. Please disregard the "edited by" line at the bottom of the post. Sorry!)</span>

[Eat_My_Shortz]

OK we have NOLOBEN and the TUNNELS and most likely Todelmer (although I don't recognise it).

In fact, you know what guys, I don't think I've ever seen a Todelmer shot from Mudpie. Did I miss something? Anyone care to fill me in on Todelmer, or provide any links to old Mudpie Todelmer shots?

[RaPhil]

Interesting - that 'Tunnels' pic (if we are talking about the same one)- and earlier version of the same pic is in the Complete Chronicles Prima Guide: as "one of Cyan's very first real-time 3D experiments - this round room was created in 1998"

Tweek also has it on the D'ni Jazz Club site and has titled it 'Node'

[Eat_My_Shortz]

I cant believe you got the CC guide Joann. And in AUSTRALIA too! Well you must have bought the only one in this lousy country.

I have seen that tunnel pic before though. In Huevo I think.
Here is Huevo:
http://math.berkeley.edu/~schepler/huevo/

Ahhh yep, there it is. 2nd from the left, 4th from top.
I can also see: Rolep, Ae'gura, Teledahn, Riven (of course) and I believe all the ones in Vika are from Negilahn. Hopefully thats next on Myst V's hitlist.

[RaPhil]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eat_My_Shortz:
I cant believe you got the CC guide Joann. And in AUSTRALIA too! Well you must have bought the only one in this lousy country.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

[Babylon2005]

Hi everyone, I havent been in here before but thought I would pop in and have a look around. Excuse the name but Babylon doesnt work in the system. Most people just call me Babs.
Any ideas on when in autumn the game will be out?

[RaPhil]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/joann99/welcome.gif Hi Babs!! Welcome to the forums.

I have no idea exactly when it is due out, but someone 'in-the-know' may!

Hope you have fun here. Check out the other Myst forums too - there are enough of them!!

[JennyH]

Welcome Annika.

Hey Babs. Long time no see. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Good to see you Cats!!

Babs I'll check into your name and see if I can change it for you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[mszv]

I'm usually happy with whatever ages Cyan and/or Ubisoft creates. But, before it all ends, I would really like to see those tunnels and that beach.

[Jnathus]

Just a thought on my part about the potential for seeing Releeshan.

I don't think they can show it to us. Releeshan is full of (*gasp*) people. It'd just be BRIMMING with humanoids walking everywhere, doing things, carrying on their lives / activities. How unlike all the previous Myst games!!! Assuming Myst V uses the Plasma Engine (I believe it does, but I'm not going to claim facts I'm unsure of), I see SUPER low framerates in any future that contains Releeshan.

[Boshettee]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>A little inside info, since I was the one who started "Something
Elseâ"ž¢" back in May...

Bill is right on the money.

If you want to look back in the archives at the end of May, you'll see
that folks were trying to figure out if we were going to be doing more
Uru expansion packs after TPotS. I answered that we were working on
"Something Else" as way to say, "No, our next project will not be
another Uru X-pack" without giving any specific information about any
of the projects that we had in development. I wasn't just talking
about "Sasquatch" (Myst V's codename which you discovered a few months
later).

Now that Myst V has been officially announced, you can see how
"Something Else" was accurate for that project in the context of not
being another expansion for Uru, and with the other information in the
announcement you can probably also see that "Something Else" was even
more appropriate for the other projects we have in development (which
will remain mysteries a while longer).

You'll have to stay tuned for news of "Something Else Entirely" and
"Something Completely Different".



RAWA

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can't wait to find out what Something Completely Different and Something Else Entirely are!

Edit: Sorry Jenny, I just saw where you had already posted this quote.

[Babylon2005]

so let me see if I have this right. Somethig else is not Myst 5 so there is something in the works to do with the world of Myst even if its not involving Atrus and Catherine?
(I'm confused!)

[sbarber]

I hope we start the game in the D'ni cavern (in a prerendered, PROPER Myst game, i.e. not the cheap looking abomination that is URU). It would be cool if it ended in Releeshaan...so we see where it all started, and where it all ends. There's no need to kill anyone off, but some kind of cataclysmic threat, perhaps to the use of the Art, would be a great story. Imagine if Atrus was writing a Book that he knew would be the last link...an 'unless you can stop whatever's happened, the links between Ages will be lost forever' kind of thing!!! Ha ha ha sorry getting a bit caught up in the excitement!!!!

'All good things...'

[riven2000]

Um...check out http://myst5.ubi.com/us/

I'm afraid it won't be prerendered.

[sbarber]

oh, no.

IS IT THE SAME GRAPHICS ENGINE AS URU?????
i.e. NO MAC VERSION?!!!!???!?!?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[DebbieDec2003]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sbarber:
oh, no.

IS IT THE SAME GRAPHICS ENGINE AS URU?????
i.e. NO MAC VERSION?!!!!???!?!?! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It is a dual Mac/PC platform game.

You are making the same mistake I *used* to make. The Plasma engine, that is used for URU and Myst 5 is dual platform. *ONLY* the physics engine i.e. the movement of objects in the game, called the Havok engine, was not ported to the Mac.

Please see here http://www.insidemacgames.com/news/story.php?ID=10717 and read the announcement and you will see it's a dual platform game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[iofthemourning]

(previously sbarber)

Ah yes, so i see...good stuff. Does anyone know if Rand plays Atrus again? he must!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Eat_My_Shortz]

No nobody knows.
I assume at least he will do a voiceover for the opening. Now thats just basic DUH... if that doesn't happen, it clearly isnt a myst game. Even Uru had that.

Next, I hope that Atrus will at least be a character, (even if prerendered) and that Rand will do the voice for that character.

Finally, I hold onto a thread of hope (which basically you probably shouldnt hang onto with me folks or it will snap) that it will feature live-action video and Rand will play Atrus for the last time, in character.

Nobody knows past #1.

[Zoonishii]

I think this game is just going to be keen without fail.

I just think it'd be cool if they could tinker with an online component again, but, I'm not sure how likely that will be (If it's coming out this year and all... ...unless they've learned from their mistakes or something). I missed out on Uru Live... and I'm not sure if I should try out Until Uru.

...whatever they do, it'll be as good as gravy.

Maybe, like, Gehn will come back as a zombie.


~Zoonshwalla-walla

[Babylon2005]

Good as gravy? never heard that saying before

I'm pondering the until URU idea as well. I've been warned that its not the same as URU live as its missing the atmosphere.

[lmiller510]

I'd like Catherine to be a major character (I really missed her in Myst IV), I'd like to discover Releeshahn, I'd like to find out how the Moiety are doing, and I really want to hear more music of Robyn Miller. Regarding gameplay, I'd like worlds I can enjoy wandering through after the game is over.

Also, am I the only person who was really disappointed to find out that, after all of the beauty and wonder of the games, these guys just lived in New Mexico?

[lmiller510]

The screen shots at http://myst5.ubi.com/us/ look a lot like URU.

[Coronagold]

Those are Ages they meant to introduce in Uru Live later on, had Live succeeded.

[Zoonishii]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Babylon2005:
Good as gravy? never heard that saying before

I'm pondering the until URU idea as well. I've been warned that its not the same as URU live as its missing the atmosphere. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I say "good as gravy" so often, I tend to forget it probably makes no sense.

I'm just not sure it'd be worth the effort in Until Uru if something goes wrong or doesn't work.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Also, am I the only person who was really disappointed to find out that, after all of the beauty and wonder of the games, these guys just lived in New Mexico? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought it was brilliant, really. Cyan always wants to take you and immerse you in these worlds. In Uru's story, they took these worlds and brought them to reality. You made a character that was supposed to be YOU, and you were playing with other people who were supposed to be themselves. It was all supposed to be real people, and reality was bent around the story.

They went as far as to make an "In Character" site for the DRC, and say that Catherine's journals were given to Robyn and Rand Miller as the basis for the stories of the actual MYST games.

In perspective of what Cyan has always tried to do with their games, I just thought this was a pretty amazing idea. To take this immersion so far as to have their players seeing themselves on the screen drawn out to the middle of nowhere in New Mexico.

I'm probably overthinking this, but, this is really why I would have liked to have been able to play Uru Live... Their underlying idea was just excellent.


~Zoonrambleonii

[Zoonishii]

Man... I hope I didn't totally kill this thread...

WHOOPS!


~Zoondingus

[Dougy2040]

I am mixed with equal parts exitment and sorrow at this, the final MYST game. Excitement because I can't wait to see how it ends and something as big as MYST will surelly go out with a HUGE bang! Sorroy because I discovered MYST oh so late. It wasn't untill late 2003 that I discovered this amazing series. My first inro was the books and then I bought the first three games. Sorrow also as I have not yet played Uru or M4 on account of having a computer which is less powerful than my wrist watch. I feel I will not get as much appriciation out of this series and it will be over for me as soon as it had begun.

But then, this is terrable exiting and I AM looking forward to it! I hope it is everything we expect it to be. If I was to have one thing, it would be to see Reeleshahn! That, and for it to end with one of those moments where you sink back into your chair with a tear in your eye and a HUGE feeling of satisfaction!

Oh, and RaPhil, its beaut to see a fellow Aussie around the boards! G'day!

[utrinqueparatus]

What about the bonus of having the facility (and a few aids) to enable the 'stranger' to write an Age? Perhaps as a necessity for refuge from some unexplained phenomenon that cataclysmically destroys all the previous Ages - including Relto?

Or inclusion of a puzzle to test our ability in D'ni translation - we wander from series to series and are bombarded with the D'ni language but never had a chance to do some real interpretation (save a little morsel in Revelation and the numbers for the pressure plates in Uru). What a waste of the D'ni tongue if this is - as many pessimists suspect the demise of it all.

My dream is like most others - third person option - new Ages to Explore - a range of easy to hard puzzles - interaction with others, whether it is online or offline characters. I'd be happy with a mixture of all the Ages we have ever been to - think what it would be like to be able to travel forwards and backwards in time to the many Ages we have experienced. Perhaps a test to see how much we remember about past puzzles - setting up the viewers to deflect the ray of light etc. Perhaps some of the ambiguity of the location of the desert cleft may be cleared up.

A lot of sour notes spawned from the evolution of the series - the brothers turning bad etc. What if the Myst V turns back the clock - a chance to rewrite history on a different timeline? It would give a happy ending if things turned out for the better - a nice note to go out on.

More importantly - what are we all going to do - if it is the last one in the series? We all want escapism after a hard days work, perhaps I'll probably spend more time on my metal-detecting hobby - at least I got more excersize.

[Coronagold]

The Interruption Of Ages...


...given Yeeshas' powers, I see no end to this. For example, an employee of a glass manufacturer from Akron, Ohio reaches a Bahro token from Yeesha in the mid 1930s during the Depression Era.

Given the Barons from the 1860's through the 1920's. you can't lose, plotwise. You'd be a numbnut if you think that Myst / Uru has reached a dead-end. I mean "thick". Come on. Really. The baron-minded visionieres of the Guilded Age certainly wouldn't stop at a conscious-driven decision. They want their 11 pound burger. They want their luxury cars.

[Feliskitty]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GallifreyLady:
All I want right now is an answer. A _conclusive_, _definitive_, yes or no answer from either Cyan or Ubisoft, if Myst 5 is the end of the Myst storyline (meaning Atrus and his family), or the end of _everything_--Myst, Uru, the D'niverse, the whole shebang. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cyan itself doesn't even know if it will be the last D'ni game. They said Riven would be the last; they obviously changed their minds.

[Zeus12345]

Wow!
I leave for a week and when I get back I find all this!!!
I can't wait, I am a bit sad that this will be the last one but I hope it ends on a truly epic note, like LOTR except without the orcs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif
Hope we get to see Releeshaan *crosses fingers*

[Alahmnat]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Feliskitty:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GallifreyLady:
All I want right now is an answer. A _conclusive_, _definitive_, yes or no answer from either Cyan or Ubisoft, if Myst 5 is the end of the Myst storyline (meaning Atrus and his family), or the end of _everything_--Myst, Uru, the D'niverse, the whole shebang. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cyan itself doesn't even know if it will be the last D'ni game. They said Riven would be the last; they obviously changed their minds. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually they said Riven was the last Myst game, because at the time they were saying that they were already full-on in development of what would become Uru (amusingly enough, it was supposed to be a project of much narrower scope than it ended up becoming). However, you are correct, Cyan has no intention of making any claims as to finality. As RAWA has noted several times in the past few weeks, their company slogan is "you never know..." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

That said, I wouldn't immediately be expecting another D'ni story out of Cyan after this... they're pretty well burned out after spending 6 years on Uru and the remaining time up to now working insanely hard to get things out the door for us to play, so it wouldn't surprise me if they wanted to take a break from their 13-year stint in D'ni and move on to try something else for a change. That doesn't mean they'll never come back to D'ni, it just means there'll be an appreciable time delay between now and whenever/if-ever the next D'ni-related project comes out.

[eclectica]

What I would like in Myst 5:

- Riven-like puzzles (one BIG Age with clues eveywhere, a lot of logical puzzles)
- Releeshahn could be this "big Age"
- Maybe one or two "small Ages"
- The return of Gehn
- Rand Miller playing Atrus again

Somebody suggested it would be cool if you could go back in the past (with a time-machine or a special book) and change some events. For example, you could affect the way Atrus treated (ignored) his sons, then go back to the present and see that Sirrus and Achenar haven't turned mad (and are still alive)! You could also worsen those events as well, and have to fix your errors.

[Kerath1987]

Does anybody know why they ever stop the Myst serie? I thought it was sold very well, so what are their reasons to do so?

[Coronagold]

What is the meaning of life?

[Deledrius]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alahmnat:
As RAWA has noted several times in the past few weeks, their company slogan is "you never know..." http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd love to see that on their company website.

Cyan - You never know...

People would really be scratching their heads over that one.

[NGW1031982]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kerath1987:
Does anybody know why they ever stop the Myst serie? I thought it was sold very well, so what are their reasons to do so? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
They may not want to or not be able to continue the story with the same characters. If I remember correctly, we could still see games relating back to Myst (Like URU), as they are just ending the Myst name, not the game. There were rumors that Myst 4 was going to be the final Myst game, hence URU.

[GadrenURU]

yeah, and also the Myst games have not been selling well...although the first MYst sold 10 million copies, Riven sold less, and Exile even less...i don't think that Uru even got more than a million. MYst IV sold OK, but not the big numbers anymore.

[Deirdre_1]

As good as something can be and continue to be, such as the Myst series, people do move on. Plain and simple that is probably the main reason for the decline in sales. There are die-hard Myst fans and there always will be, but people move on. The main reason for a software company to be in business, is to make money.(as much as they can). When a title starts to become less profitable then the times comes to consider it's demise. Uru online was a good concept but in my opinion, it wasn't Myst. Maybe that is part of the reason of why it failed. Now there is Until Uru, again it is not Myst. It is too bad that the Myst series is not online in some way. Maybe that would have fared better than Uru. Also Uru Live was, IMHO, released too early (before it was completed). That in itself did not help pave a road to success. At times I feel myself, after 4 chapters of Myst, wanting some kind of closure to the series. After all there is only so much you can do at this point to keep it fresh. I will always love the Myst games and I know I will revisit all of them from time to time, but perhaps it is indeed time to move on. Who knows, maybe there is in the planning stages, some kind of new evolution to these games. Something new and fresh, and yet related to Myst and Uru. One can only wait and see, and hope, and wonder, and .......dream!!!!

[uecasm]

What would I like to see in Myst V?

- Realtime 3D, preferably with an avatar. It's way too frickin' easy to get lost with node-based movement, and the world just isn't as interesting, even if you can rotate your view in a full sphere.

- No dumb basket-pushing puzzles. The pushing-rocks-around puzzles were ok, but those baskets were just dumb. And besides, if I really wanted to move things around, I'd pick them up!

- Sparse to no jumping puzzles. While the ones in Uru were for the most part ok, frequently the lag (even in single-player) would get you killed.

- Fast turnaround for panic links. Relto (or wherever you go following a panic link) should be kept always in memory (or something), and so should where you just linked out of (at least until you link somewhere different). There should be no "loading time" loss from falling, linking out, and going straight back in to try it again.

- More of Yeesha. It'd be interesting to see how she went from the happy child at the start of M4 to the (occasionally crazy-sounding) mystic in Uru. Though I suppose the events at the end of M4 (which I won't mention, it'd be a spoiler) might have had something to do with it.

- Cameras and Journals that can be used everywhere. The Uru stuff didn't really work for this; there were places you wanted to use them but couldn't. The M4 journal was better in this regard.

- Write your own Age. Ok, I know this isn't going to happen (at least not in M5). But I can dream.

- A stupendously oversized world. Kind of like Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Where it would actually take you hours of realtime to cross the whole place on foot (though you could use Nexus-type links as a shortcut). In other words, keep the DVD capacity but fill it with world geometry rather than prerendered shots. That would be awesome, in both senses of the word.

[uecasm]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention: cinematic ride sequences are great too. Though hopefully they can be done like the beautiful sequences in M3 and M4, and not like the buggy mess that was Ahnonay. (Edit: by 'buggy mess' I'm referring solely to the ride sequence, not the rest of Ahnonay, which was brilliant in ideas, modelling, and execution. Just to clarify. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

And yes, I know that a lot of the above couldn't really happen in the M5 timeframe (unless they've already done it). That doesn't stop me wishing for it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[JadesDream]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by uecasm:
That doesn't stop me wishing for it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Keep wishing...that's what we all do. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/PicturePooling/smileys/backtotopic.gif

I still think Atrus is the root of all evil. I'd like to go back in time, send him to Parenting Class 101...no wait...I need to go back even further! Send Gehn to Parenting Class 101, teach him about honor, loyalty and love...he then passes that to Atrus...who passes it down to Sirrus and Achenar. Bingo...one big happy family. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

If that doesn't work, go back in time and take away all their ink. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v177/PicturePooling/smileys/icon_bolt.gif

[g00d3d3s1gn]

ok ok, it's a great set of games... let's not act like star trek nuts and have conventions where we dress up like the characters! i mean really... who could ever play the wormtongue guy from lord of the rings... you know... the guy who played savedro in exile...

well remember. don't be Trekky type nerts.

ok, that's it for me.. of to the Darth Vader look alike contest...

LOL

[GadrenURU]

uh, dude...
it's already been done.

we have an annual Myst convention, called Mysterium (it's in Chicago this year)...

in past Mysteriums, people have come dressed up as characters from the games...no need to insult them.

[Tozzifan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Randomos:
Welcome to the new chapter in the Myst saga- spanning many years, and with wonders, challenges, and drama along the way. Join in the speculation and the discussion, the jokes and friendships and respect that makes this community exceptional. What do you imagine Myst V to be? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"wherever you go, there you are" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[EverettL]

What do you imagine Myst V to be?

Like it's previous successors, an immersive adventure journey for you to explore. Captivating visuals is just one of the many benefits of this game, intriguing storyline and an all-around unique cast of characters, sporting different yet friendly personalities. But most importantly, I'm hoping for Myst V to show everyone that the Adventure genre in PC gaming has not been squashed and still can provide excitement to players.

[bumfish]

Oh man!
I really hope this isn't the End, I was so disappointed when I saw the title of the game. I'd like to see a bahro, and a member of the Least.
One thing puzzles me though, why can't we write our own ages? I've got some really cool ideas...
" To live in the past is to die in the present!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[ivanxuereb]

Originally posted by bumfish:
Oh man!
I really hope this isn't the End, I was so disappointed when I saw the title of the game. I'd like to see a bahro, and a member of the Least.
One thing puzzles me though, why can't we write our own ages? I've got some really cool ideas...
" To live in the past is to die in the present!" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Here's news: it is and there will be Bahro. Under which rock has your head been all this time?

[craiglerock]

Originally posted by bumfish:
One thing puzzles me though, why can't we write our own ages? I've got some really cool ideas... I have the same question. Many games include the capacity for user to add content. Age of Empires II comes to mind. You could create environments to your hearts content and even modify characters and objects if you were skilled enough.

Since this is the last in the series, it would be nice to let the users continue to contribute content for as long as they want.

[Alahmnat]

Cyan is actually working hard to get editor tools for Plasma released... there's just licensing issues for other peoples' technology they have to make sure they're honoring in the process. And at the moment they kind of have a game to finish, so patience http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

I'm not sure if they're going to be for the Uru version of their engine, the EoA version, or both... having tools for Uru would be awesome because then we could expand the world of Until Uru ourselves... but at the same time, tools for EoA would be better, I think, because the results would be available to both Mac and PC people.

[craiglerock]

Alahmnat,

Sounds great. Seeing as how they had things streamlined for creating fresh content, it probably wouldn't take that much work to convert whatever they had to a user tool.

I have patience. I want to see what the folks at Cyan have made first.

Hopefully tools will be available for both as the capacity to share online in Uru would take full advantage of creating mods.

Thanks for the info. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[lanzfan]

Originally posted by maztec:
My vision and dream?

8 huge worlds with a game design that allows true multiple endings. Beautiful landscapes, a myriad of creatures and new life and inventions to explore. Everything touchable.

Ok, that's the dream.

Vision? Plasma Engine, First Person Perspective, all in-game humanoid characters that you interact with are filmed three dimensionally so you can move around them as they act and are imbedded into the environment. Allowing a unique touch of the real within the fantasy.

Plot?

Atrus dies, Katherine dies, natural deaths hopefully. Yeesha goes nuts, we explore her growing up, get to be a bit closer with the Bahro. Kind of a pre-story to Uru but the end-story for Myst.

Oh, and lots of chocolate!
OK........ so Atrus and Katherine die? Now how can that happen in a game in a natural way??

What, was Atrus riding his bike on Myst Island when he hit the pool with the model boat in it and he.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif *ahem*.. or what?

I actually would sue if they got rid of Atrus http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Now for real:

I would like to see some answers. Some definitive answers. Because there are quite a few out there, most to never be solved no doubt (e.g. Where does THE Player really come from? And who was Gehn's wife?)

[Alahmnat]

Uru answers your first question, and Riven answers your second as far as her name and where she's from... you just kind of have to go digging through journals to find it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

[lanzfan]

Originally posted by Alahmnat:
Uru answers your first question, and Riven answers your second as far as her name and where she's from... you just kind of have to go digging through journals to find it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

I need to go back and play Riven. As for URU, I beat it, but not the expansions...yet.

[talonist]

I just tried the demo and I'm elated to find that the game supports Window's Accessibilty Features (Sticky Keys and Mouse Keys). As Maztec knows, Myst 4 was the only game in the series that did not support these features and being paralyzed, this left me unable to play Myst 4.
Kudos to the Myst developement team for letting me back into the world of Myst http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

[Katreena]

Originally posted by Randomos:
Welcome to the new chapter in the Myst saga- spanning many years, and with wonders, challenges, and drama along the way. Join in the speculation and the discussion, the jokes and friendships and respect that makes this community exceptional. What do you imagine Myst V to be?

A place my friends can join me to explore and solve...

Oh, and lots of chocolate!

[eTheo]

I tried the demo too recently and I hope to see more puzzles like them in the full Myst V. The puzzles seem interesting enough to me. And in some places the graphics of the full 3D option have made improvements over past 3D games. Not everywhere but I'll say I hope to see more of that nice waving grass in the full game.

The water looks very nice like the high quality water in some blockbuster 3D action games. But as some here have complained the water has an unnatural grid pattern at certain angles of view. Well the water in all the other 3D games have the same problem, even in Virtual Skipper 3 when you view from up higher. But the Myst 5 demo has controlled the criss crossing pattern to look better on the water than some other games IMO. Still not natural looking in some places but all games in 3d are stil working on that problem.

[lanzfan]

I definetely will try and play it tomorrow. Then I should have enough motivation to go out and beat what's left in Myst IV http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And it's about time that I do!

[Darcphaze]

Originally posted by eTheo:
I tried the demo too recently and I hope to see more puzzles like them in the full Myst V. The puzzles seem interesting enough to me. And in some places the graphics of the full 3D option have made improvements over past 3D games.

Yes! Thank you for saying it! I posted elsewhere about the technical end of what I noticed, but I liked the whole thing. I won't go into details here since this is a non spoiler forum, but that sky was to die for, and I was glad I played the demo. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif I can't say that about all demos I play.

[ashlyncat]

Speaking of dreams, I had one very strange dream. I dream was in a world filled with planets rotating in a circle. Another strange thing about it is that some space craft rotating along with the planet. The dream looked so real and I felt like I was really in it.

~AshlynCat