so sad...

[JulietHotel13]

from what im seeing so far from bewaresamefisher.com and other sites im pretty disappointed...sam has been navy seal plus part of a secret of the government for years...seeing death all around him and he goes bad after his daughters death?...come on...its like 007...have you ever seen 007 go bad?people die around him 24/7 and he still hasnt gone bad...plz ubisoft if you guys are planning to make sam even slightly bad think about it one more time...

[JulietHotel13]

from what im seeing so far from bewaresamefisher.com and other sites im pretty disappointed...sam has been navy seal plus part of a secret of the government for years...seeing death all around him and he goes bad after his daughters death?...come on...its like 007...have you ever seen 007 go bad?people die around him 24/7 and he still hasnt gone bad...plz ubisoft if you guys are planning to make sam even slightly bad think about it one more time...

[illumni.]

Wasn't there a game called '007 rogue agent'...

[Iceman314]

Yeah, but the movies are the main basis of that franchise. Bond is the man, and never went bad. The games are the main point of this franchise and apparently he is going bad. I don't want to pass judgement, but I'm nervous. If he goes bad like it looks like he is, I'll be disappointed. I'll still buy it though, but I'll be disappointed.

[shady-guy]

If all stories were the same, it'd be a very boring world.
I'm all good with Sam going on the bad, as long as I don't have to kill him in the end.

[illumni.]

If Sam goes bad then i want him dead even if i have to shoot myself/Sam

[JulietHotel13]

well shady-guy...how do you think bond is still so popular after years and years of basically the same thing?

[scworld]

Hot girls attract crowds. The Bond stories arent that great.

[switch-spy.CF]

the poor guy's lost it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

[Chimera87]

omfg not another of these topics. Darn u people get a grip and keep your faith in Ubi.....

The site says, "YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S COMING" so we dont know ****. So stop the guessing all the time, stop the whine. its getting annoying now.

I also dont like the way it seems to go atm, but i trust ubi for not screwing up a franchise....

get a grip of yourself, stop the useless endless discussion about what noone knows and just WAIT.

[pretend3r]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JulietHotel13:
from what im seeing so far from bewaresamefisher.com and other sites im pretty disappointed...sam has been navy seal plus part of a secret of the government for years...seeing death all around him and he goes bad after his daughters death?...come on...its like 007...have you ever seen 007 go bad?people die around him 24/7 and he still hasnt gone bad...plz ubisoft if you guys are planning to make sam even slightly bad think about it one more time... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Let me make a smith post about this:

what if you just wait for the game and see for yourself http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[CAINE-SC]

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/images/smilies/lock.gif Read the forums before you post this subject over and over again. http://forums.beyondunreal.com/images/smilies/lock.gif

[chisam24]

i wouldn't care if he goes bad or not just if he has his gaget and the stealth

[FN57]

How do you know Sam goes bad? How do you know he still isnt a good person trying to get revenge.

[Xan-99]

There aren't enough games where you play the bad guy.

I love hitman http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Knot3D]

On the other hand ;

Threads which state how good the game will be don't get looked at like this http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

If a person states his opinion as to why he believes the game will not be great, in a civilized manner ; i guess he's got the right to speak his mind.

[wasupi355]

On the Third Echelon Discharge sheet, somewhere it describes the character of Sam's service as Dishonerable.

[chisam24]

i dont think sam is bad... i think he undercover

[ShannosChaotic]

Hmm... Man I thought I was lazy about reading threads. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Iceman314]

Hey Chimera87, if this thread is annoying to you, then don't read it. Personally, I don't like the idea of Sam going bad, but as for now, that's all it is to us. An idea.

[Chimera87]

yea but do you really think that all the guessing is leading to a conclusion.....

the site says "you dont know whats coming" so we should all just stop the guessing and wait till we get some clear clues....

jeesh

P.S. its not only THIS thread that is about the same thing. we have seen about 100 topics about this already.... when are you guys gonna learn that 1 topic could also do the trick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

[Dreakon1313]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JulietHotel13:
seeing death all around him and he goes bad after his daughters death?...come on... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
There's a difference between seeing terrorists dieing for plotting to kill innocent lives and having his own daughter, his only child, die.

And once again, "you have no idea whats coming". http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[psyichic]

Not to mention YOu would have to think that somewhere along the lines of this constant Black Ops warfare he is going through is just wearing on him. And finally Shetland was probably the straw that broke the camels back. He killed one of his own best friends as his friend was telling him how the goverment he worked for was just corrupt. Then yes seeing his daughter die drove him over the edge. Not to mention there are theories that his daughter was killed by a goverment faction or something like that.

But like Chimera says we really dont know whatsoever. I personally think though the Sam goes bad role is what is needed because if all of Sam's games are just save the world from this and that the games would loose popularity. This makes him more dynamic.

[JulietHotel13]

psyichic...have u tried putting down your gun before you kill shetland?...Shetland tries to kill him so sam goes ahead and finishes his job.

[MKCC14]

we dont know the whole story for this one so you cant really say those things.

[Ghost512005]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">quote:
Originally posted by JulietHotel13:
seeing death all around him and he goes bad after his daughters death?...come on...

There's a difference between seeing terrorists dieing for plotting to kill innocent lives and having his own daughter, his only child, die.

And once again, "you have no idea whats coming". </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
sam is taught how to handle this situation. as of what we know she was not murdered so there is no need for revenge. o and stop saying well put yourself in sams shoes and that stuff it is ******ed sam is not like that

[JulietHotel13]

Thank you ghost512005 I appreciate it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Ghost512005]

no problem, some of this people don't know anything about splinter cell