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weequayx
01-31-2010, 08:28 PM
Thought I'd share these here, I thought they were good, I am sure a couple have seen them already.

Some graphic footage of killing Japanese sailors in this first one, so beware. The beginning is aboard US subs in the pacific and later just general pacific war footage.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d55_1256868572


This second one is some war footage shot by German soldiers, some of its stuff I havn't seen before and I thought I saw it all. Also about midway through is some good uboat footage around the 2:30 mark.

Enjoy

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fc9_1264624578


and ONE more, this appears to be a Uboat propaganda film, another batch of good footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...uSMc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYWTt1HuSMc&feature=related)

Ducimus_Rapax
01-31-2010, 10:06 PM
Ok, that first movie keeps coming up.

It's fake.


It's a bunch of raw footage, spliced together to make it look like something its not. I seriously wonder if this film was made by someone who thoguht it was cool to make another crappy youtube video with gawdaweful music, or some dillweed with an agenda.

The raw footage is well known, and can be found here:
http://www.realmilitaryflix.com/public/794.cfm

weequayx
01-31-2010, 10:16 PM
Its beyond obvious that its spliced. I do believe a good portion of its quite real. Its clear the person who did it was trying awful hard to make it appear to be a little more than what it really was though.

The music is atrocious aswell

I figured there has to be some here who haven't seen it though

S31-Langsdorf
02-01-2010, 02:04 AM
Just thankful I only play at war, the real thing makes even the most barbaric act seem normal. I know of only one actual incidence of an American Submarine shooting survivors in the water, the debate to this day on the actions of the Wahoo still rages.

No one knows who fired first, the soldiers from the torpedoed transport in the water, or the Wahoo. It's easy for history to be judgmental, but the combatants don't get the luxury of time to debate right and wrong. Regardless of who fired first, the mission of the Wahoo was to interdict supplies, equipment and personnel from reaching the enemies intended destination. The soldiers on that ship she torpedoed were within easy reach of making land on a contested battlefront.

Add to that the Bushido Code, many Japanese would refuse aid at the price of surrender. Such dishonor would cast a very long shadow back home, so much so that returning home would be a fate worse than death to them.

*climbs off soap box*

Ducimus_Rapax
02-01-2010, 02:43 PM
I know of only one actual incidence of an American Submarine shooting survivors in the water, the debate to this day on the actions of the Wahoo still rages.

Correct. Some people like to portray that machine gunning survivors was commonplace in either theater. It was not.

Only two incidents i'm aware of:

U-852 and the Pelius affair:
http://uboat.net/articles/inde...ml?article=18&page=2 (http://uboat.net/articles/index.html?article=18&page=2)

USS Wahoo and it's 3rd war patrol:
http://www.mackinnon.org/wahoo...ion-controversy.html (http://www.mackinnon.org/wahoo-3rdmission-controversy.html)

That's it.