View Full Version : Petition to get lag fix.
MendesSoze
05-05-2006, 01:07 AM
Firstly, PLEASE DO NOT post a comment if you do not agree, there are other threads for that, or open a new one yourself disagreeing with this thread, this is a petition and only to be signed or commented on by people who AGREE. Thank you for your cooperation.
OK, if you too feel that the problems with the game go far beyond your connection speed or lack of it, (come on lets face it, if in one game you can support 16 players and more with no lag, but this one has problems with four, then there's a problem that needs addressing), and agree there are other problems that need looking at, such as voice breakup (again a lag problem I'm told), the strange aiming control that I have read about and experienced then PLEASE SIGN and / or comment.
Let me say this, I loved this game enough to go and buy it a second time, even though the original Xbox one was not without its problems, but the problems have escalated to a point where I feel I've been conned.
The game has the potential to be THE BEST online shooter, I firmly believe this, the variety of gameplay puts other online FPS to shame.
It has the potential but falls so short and is an overwhelming disappointment, literally NOBODY plays ranked because we all know host wins, the number of people playing online is rapidly falling because why bother if every game lags? I don't need to details the problems, my personal favourite where you get on a handglider, but don't so you try to get on a second time only to realise you did the first time, only to find the second time meant you get off to fall to you death. Brilliant.
Bottom line : Ubisoft should fix it because its broke, or at least faulty or poorly produced, at the very least they should release a statement telling us all to get faster connections, LOL!!
MendesSoze
05-05-2006, 01:07 AM
Firstly, PLEASE DO NOT post a comment if you do not agree, there are other threads for that, or open a new one yourself disagreeing with this thread, this is a petition and only to be signed or commented on by people who AGREE. Thank you for your cooperation.
OK, if you too feel that the problems with the game go far beyond your connection speed or lack of it, (come on lets face it, if in one game you can support 16 players and more with no lag, but this one has problems with four, then there's a problem that needs addressing), and agree there are other problems that need looking at, such as voice breakup (again a lag problem I'm told), the strange aiming control that I have read about and experienced then PLEASE SIGN and / or comment.
Let me say this, I loved this game enough to go and buy it a second time, even though the original Xbox one was not without its problems, but the problems have escalated to a point where I feel I've been conned.
The game has the potential to be THE BEST online shooter, I firmly believe this, the variety of gameplay puts other online FPS to shame.
It has the potential but falls so short and is an overwhelming disappointment, literally NOBODY plays ranked because we all know host wins, the number of people playing online is rapidly falling because why bother if every game lags? I don't need to details the problems, my personal favourite where you get on a handglider, but don't so you try to get on a second time only to realise you did the first time, only to find the second time meant you get off to fall to you death. Brilliant.
Bottom line : Ubisoft should fix it because its broke, or at least faulty or poorly produced, at the very least they should release a statement telling us all to get faster connections, LOL!!
phidave
05-05-2006, 07:45 AM
Darn tootin I'll sign!
Please Ubi...FIX this (BTW? Nice to see Monkeyhat again "saying" they're working on it...now how about some actual results of said work?)
Talon1986
05-05-2006, 08:06 AM
GT: I 7alon I
GreatWight
05-05-2006, 08:14 AM
UBISOFT - Please fix the lag and overtake COD2 as the best Multiplayer 360 title. You are currently ranked near the bottom due to this issue.
zeeEVIL1
05-05-2006, 08:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ToyAnvil:
UBISOFT - Please fix the lag and overtake COD2 as the best Multiplayer 360 title. You are currently ranked near the bottom due to this issue. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif Please fix this UBI. I also just read an interview about the Game CRYSIS on IGN and is you know its from the same folks who created FAR CRY. in the article they stated that the online component was **** and buggy from the start in all versions and this new game is going to fix it.(CRYSIS) So see Even the developers of the game admit to this fault. Why can't you?
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gifi mEVIL so you don't have to be. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif
Brimtown
05-05-2006, 09:39 AM
While I'm sure they're already working on it, I'll go ahead and lend my support. Most of the games I've been in have been relatively lag-free, but I still run into it far too often.
mambonuts
05-05-2006, 12:54 PM
Even though I don't have 'Predator'...I'm behind you guys 100%... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Ender.W
05-05-2006, 02:49 PM
A patch that fixes the lag would be great, and some of the other bugs in the game too.
I agree wholeheartedly! I REALLY want the lag to be fixed, some of my friends won't even THINK about buying Predator because of the online! I'm pretty sure you guys know about the problems and are "looking into it", but please say publicly that you are either making a patch or not so that the entire community can have some peace.
SurrealPanic
05-05-2006, 06:44 PM
Very well written petition. I agree on all points. In particular:
1. this could be the best online FPS for the variety of gameplay and overall balance between weapons/vehicles etc.
2. gameplay lag (and voice lag) kill the experience. Every game lags in a frustrating way. Some games are just broken and unplayable. In the best case, the game is sloppy with an enormous host advantage. And this is for hosts which are all "green". Other games (especially PDZ) do not exhibit this degree of lag.
Talon1986
05-05-2006, 08:22 PM
Oh please perfect dark zero couldn't lag if you payed the developers to make it lag lol
MendesSoze
05-06-2006, 05:22 AM
Thanks for all the replies so far, especially Mambonuts who doesn't even have Predator, thanks for the support. Some great comments / points being made, please urge any like-minded friends to sign also.
Lets hope Ubi takes note.
On a half positive note I did pay a couple of quick games last night, six players and was pretty good fun, a bit of lag of course, most notibly voice. But I can honestly say it reminded me why this game could be great, truly great, its in Ubi's interest, if only for securing future business, they look at sorting the problems.
Half positive I wrote though, you may have noticed, this is because the host left the party and max players open, and people started to join, which in theory would be welcome, but seven, the lag rears its ugly head, eight, inability to quickly pick up weapons, nine, ten, the inability to aim or kill without luck, eleven, the crazy dancing enemy, twelve, my 360 whimpers, so do I, the electricity supply of the 14 neighbouring counties disappears into a black hole! Well you get the idea!
Thanks again all who have signed so far.
LinuxINSID3
05-06-2006, 03:40 PM
Count me in.
Talon1986
05-06-2006, 07:35 PM
Well they reckon they are going to fix those problems in crysis... but there are some things they need to remember:
1. its only coming to pc.
2. who the !@#$ can afford a pc that can run something that good.
3. its not coming out for ages.
WretchedDrake
05-07-2006, 01:10 PM
At least Evo doesn't have lag like you guys that sux http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif
We on Evo hardly get lag unless some moron tries to host a 16 man room with wireless DSL or somethin.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
SpartanGrunt
05-07-2006, 03:34 PM
i'll sign, used to play evolution and true theres mostly no lag. im getting predator for my 360 so I don't want any lag when i get it.
i wish evolution was bc
KENNYSPC
05-07-2006, 04:11 PM
any fixes are welcomed.
SlySuperfly
05-07-2006, 04:20 PM
This would be my favorite 360 game if it was fixed.
GT: SlySUPE R FLY
BMAN1220
05-13-2006, 01:18 PM
I definitely agree. The game has lots of potential, but due to the lag issues its just too frustrating to play.
Robacidgreen
05-18-2006, 03:59 AM
Come on Ubi, you know this game lags like a *****. Sort it, you should have learnt how bad it was on the xbox, to not have fixed it for the 360 is criminal
Frienzied_Beast
05-22-2006, 05:48 AM
How can anyone not want the lag fixed? sign me up, as well as these tags (They also play it)
Deadwatch
Phantomtastic
Noble Proundfoot
Giga Phil
PaulC2K
smok3nxbl
05-23-2006, 01:29 AM
Agrees 100%
This has been my favourite MP game since instincts came out last year. It has great gameplay depth/openess,weapon balance, and level design like no other shooter out there and it does it without comprimising the games fun. It is also highly accessible for casuals and the community is really laid back, yet it has to be one of the least played games on the 360 due to the lag. Ubisoft is a great company but the lack of support for this game is a real spit in the face of the fans who bought this game. No dedicated servers what so ever from Ubisot to at least comprimise for the lag.
jaded4sure
05-23-2006, 09:58 AM
I could not agree more!
It is impressive how effective UBI was at adding new vehicles, new brush sets and NEW BUGS.
Not only are many of the same bugs still present, but there are new ones that just baffle the mind. Does UBI even bother with testing?
havard114
05-23-2006, 07:44 PM
I bought this game yesterday, and one of my main reasons for doing so was the Live support - which, I have come to find out, is absolutely horrendous. Ubisoft, I spent 60 of my hard-earned dollars on your software, make it worth it.
*signs*
FALLEN CHAMP
05-26-2006, 03:12 AM
I love the game and used to play it all the time on xlink kai, which didn't suffer as bad with the lag problems i'm now experiencing on live. UBI fix the lag (im sure your looking into it) sort the problems with ammount of maps we can select, if i have over 70 maps, others are there but cant be selected without deleting maps. And do a map pack like halo and cod have done, This will get the interest going again.
There will always be diehards playing this but with the present problems even they will turn their backs if things dont change.
x-Winters-x
05-26-2006, 08:00 AM
Predator lag = bad .. fixing the problem = good
GT: x Winters x
http://xwintersx.photosite.com/
GreatWight
05-26-2006, 09:11 AM
Due to UBIsofts lack of action/response to the issues with this game the only fix to having a lag free FarCry on the 360 now lies in the hands of Microsoft in my opinion. They need to get their backward compatibility emulator to run Instincts and/or Evolution.
MendesSoze
05-30-2006, 03:08 AM
Come on people, need more sigs, they've got to take note, if only to fix the dreadful voice lag.
Ubi what are you playing at? No offical statement, no fix, you've got my money again I want the value.
GreatWight
05-31-2006, 07:56 AM
I agree that we as consumers should research products before we purchase them. That being said that should not be used as an excuse for giving UBISoft a free pass for releasing a lackluster product. I get the feeling that some here are trying to shift the blame to the consumer for being upset with a subpar product when it should be on UBI. Also maybe lag isnt universal but I believe other issues mentioned in the feedback thread are universal.
phidave
05-31-2006, 09:33 AM
Dark...
No issue whatsoever with your pointing out the obvious about researching games (or at least renting) prior to purchase. In fact, had the poster actually done any research on this...they probably would (should?) have turned and ran...as far away from FCI:P...as possible.
As for the petition...whether it was posted on the 5th, the 10th, the 15th or even on the "same day" (the 3rd)...it's a valid post and petition for Ubi to do the right thing by the MAJORITY of this community...or what's left of it.
It has now been over 2 months since the game's release. There have been exactly 2 small tidbits of communication...2...that's it. Their lack of any meaningful or substantial communication or action is ridiculous in MOST people's minds.
The unaddressed and unresolved issue's scenario with this game is treading precariously close to that of the fiasco that Infinity Ward went through with COD2....and it's painfully obvious that like that one, the issues here have driven away MANY, MANY, MANY gamers from Predator. That is a shame. (myself included for the most part...not much fun making maps for 10-16 that can only be hosted by or even played by a handful of players)
I guess all we can continue to hope for is that like Inifnity Ward...Ubi gets it's collective head out of it's A**...and gets it's "schtuff" together and does the right thing...eventually?
Maybe then gamers can see what originally had us eagerly anticipating this game...
Ubi...
PLEASE..
Fix what ails this game...
IgniterRC
05-31-2006, 05:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkReyule:
You have no one to blame but YOURSELF for making an UNEDUCATED purchase. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by phidave:
Dark...
No issue whatsoever with your pointing out the obvious about researching games (or at least renting) prior to purchase. In fact, had the poster actually done any research on this...they probably would (should?) have turned and ran...as far away from FCI:P...as possible.
It has now been over 2 months since the game's release. There have been exactly 2 small tidbits of communication...2...that's it. Their lack of any meaningful or substantial communication or action is ridiculous in MOST people's minds.
Ubi...
PLEASE..
Fix what ails this game... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't think the "UNEDUCATED purchase" comments are fair in this case. Lets face it, a lot of people played Instincts and bought Predator so they could play the game on thier 360. NO researching needed. We had played the game. We just didn't know Ubi was going to charge us $60 for a slightly upgraded game that truly took 1 or more steps backwards and dosen't work like a next-gen game should. (can we even call this game Next-Gen?)
And the lack of communication. Sorry Ubi but Bungie has spoiled us. Heck, thier weekly update has given us more info on a game that ain't being release for over a year than you have on your game we are playing now!(or at least trying to play).
phidave
05-31-2006, 07:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by IgniterRC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DarkReyule:
You have no one to blame but YOURSELF for making an UNEDUCATED purchase. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by phidave:
Dark...
No issue whatsoever with your pointing out the obvious about researching games (or at least renting) prior to purchase. In fact, had the poster actually done any research on this...they probably would (should?) have turned and ran...as far away from FCI:P...as possible.
It has now been over 2 months since the game's release. There have been exactly 2 small tidbits of communication...2...that's it. Their lack of any meaningful or substantial communication or action is ridiculous in MOST people's minds.
Ubi...
PLEASE..
Fix what ails this game... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't think the "UNEDUCATED purchase" comments are fair in this case. Lets face it, a lot of people played Instincts and bought Predator so they could play the game on thier 360. NO researching needed. We had played the game. We just didn't know Ubi was going to charge us $60 for a slightly upgraded game that truly took 1 or more steps backwards and dosen't work like a next-gen game should. (can we even call this game Next-Gen?)
And the lack of communication. Sorry Ubi but Bungie has spoiled us. Heck, thier weekly update has given us more info on a game that ain't being release for over a year than you have on your game we are playing now!(or at least trying to play). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Igniter, I agree to a point. The example you give is correct for the assumptions many of us made 2 months ago. I don't think the same can be said for Havard114's post above...he bought the game a week ago. 10 minutes of research on the web would have EASILY told him to save his money or at least rent before buying...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
WOW...I think I've been seeing things? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
I'll swear that 5 minutes ago there were about 5 other posts in this thread that I wanted to respond to...and now they're gone?
WOW...i thinks I'm losing me marbles? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
CuZtds_Lst_Stnd
06-01-2006, 10:01 AM
Inappropriate, poor taste and off topic posts removed.
Please respect the wishes of the originator and only post here if you support this petition.
CuZ
friendly_skater
06-02-2006, 04:26 PM
i would be very discontent if they did not release a patch
at this point i think it's only a matter of time
so that is my only concern, i just wanna see a patch SOON
i agree with the original poster
despite the lacking graphics, this game provides very dynamic multiplayer play and with FIXED aiming and online performance, this will easily be my favorite game from the worst
so i sign
360 gamertag : Unfathomed ONE
BritsStink
06-05-2006, 07:36 AM
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Nath105
06-08-2006, 08:55 AM
I agree, the lag needs to get fixed
sign me and my friends:
Nath105
Nixon the Heed
PSCH0109
look forward to the update!!
phidave
06-10-2006, 05:55 AM
Wow...another week goes by and still nothing from Ubi.
At this point, I think I'm finally convinced that they're happy that they have our money and have NO intention of fixing what ails this game...
Too bad...a game that could have been easily in the top 10 on LIVE if it worked...has now fallen totally off of the chart and driven MANY fans of the original away.
Nice job, Ubi!
Now...THAT's what I call great strategic business planning and customer care!
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friendly_skater
06-12-2006, 03:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by phidave:
Wow...another week goes by and still nothing from Ubi.
At this point, I think I'm finally convinced that they're happy that they have our money and have NO intention of fixing what ails this game...
Too bad...a game that could have been easily in the top 10 on LIVE if it worked...has now fallen totally off of the chart and driven MANY fans of the original away.
Nice job, Ubi!
Now...THAT's what I call great strategic business planning and customer care!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
i mean i still can't believe this
i've yet to see a company that denies any complaints from the players and refuses to release ANY update on what they are doing to fix the problems
i keep telling myself that they will release it sooner or later
but that's only because i can't believe a company would actually refuse to patch up a funked up game
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phidave
06-13-2006, 10:07 AM
I don't know...seems like we have everything bass-ackwards Mendesoze? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif
Maybe we should have started with a petition to get them to talk with their concerned fans? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Since it doesn't seem as if there's going to be an actual fix to the problems...maybe we should have a petition for them to just tell us why they aren't...
1) communicating with us (and before the serious homers begin flamin...2 quick blurbs saying they were "looking into" the issues in almost 3 months is NOT communicating...at least nothing of importance)
2) Why they've chose to ignore the obvious issues and have decided to NOT fix this game's MP?
This is just such a travesty...
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JayFlipz489
06-13-2006, 02:59 PM
I stopped into these forums today and just now saw this petition to fix an issue..an issue that partially lead me to the decision of leaving the community as well as map making. Though I no longer play FCIP, I will include myself in this petition because I personally support the quality of Ubisoft in general...but to see issues like this, I would expect better.
WretchedDrake
06-13-2006, 03:17 PM
Well it sucks for you FCIP guys because FCIE doesn't have problems like you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif
I wouldn't stop playing it though, the graphics make almost any map look good at least to me. At least you guys got some good pre made maps like Mercy Creek. Evolution Premies suck.
EDIT: Jay, if you think Predator has problems, Evo has its own as well recently. An update last week made the map editor as useless as the old one in Instincts where brush pieces follow the same elevation over any terrain elevation change...
GreatWight
06-14-2006, 07:00 AM
WretchedDrake you mention an update for Evolution. Are you saying ubi made a patch last week for evolution? Come on UBI! From what i have read Evolution works fine. Patch the game that needs it!
WretchedDrake
06-14-2006, 08:36 AM
Yeah and the sad thing is the patch made the game worse... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
x-Winters-x
06-14-2006, 09:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WretchedDrake:
Yeah and the sad thing is the patch made the game worse... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
When was said patch? Is this reason for hope or just reason to be more annoyed?
GT: x Winters x
http://xwintersx.photosite.com/
jayce75
06-14-2006, 03:45 PM
I'm officially signing. Some of my regular buddies on Xbox Live used to play Far Cry Instincts every Friday night and we were excited as heck for Predator! Everyone went out and picked it up! Long story short here we are a few months after release and guess what - no "Far Cry Friday" in almost two months now due to the lag and voice issues. Fix the game so that people can play. You know it's not just a few people having the problems just from these forums. Imagine how many other people out there just have the same problems but don't bother to post or were so frustrated by the game they just traded it or sold it. Fix - The - Game...
phidave
06-26-2006, 07:33 AM
Obviously they are not listening to their onetime fans of this series...really too bad, too.
At this point, since it's now VERY obvious that they DO NOT plan on fixing anything in the game...it sure would be nice to at least hear the rationale for a few things...
1. Why did they decide to NOT address the issues brought up by their community since the first week after release? (Lag, Voice lag and dissappearing guns to name just 3)
2. I really would like someone to explain their rationale for taking away 3 things in the lobby system from Instincts... (A) Ability to change gametypes within the lobby, (B) ability to "Kick" players and (C) Ability to join a Friend's game without an invite...
x-Winters-x
06-26-2006, 08:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> (C) Ability to join a Friend's game without an invite... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
FYI - you can join a friends' game without an invite if the following things are true:
1) they're not playing a ranked game
2) the game they're in is not full
I agree with all of your points though.. just wanted to throw that out there.
Also, what would the logic be behind not allowing someone who sets up a DEDICATED SERVER to send out invites?
GT: x Winters x
http://xwintersx.photosite.com/
phidave
06-26-2006, 08:31 AM
Didn't think it worked (or at least it didn't a month or so ago) when you set up a dedicated, FL-only server for trading maps etc...the only way friends could get into that type of room was with a direct invite (wasn't like that in Instincts). And of course, I could be VERY wrong as it's been awhile since I even put this in...
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Darn Ubi...their lack of communication and response to the issues has not only killed this game online for most of what was once a thriving community...it's also killed my creative spirit...
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MendesSoze
06-27-2006, 01:15 AM
Well I despair....
Haven't played the game for a while, haven't even bothered to look to see a fix has been sorted, I know the answer to that one...
My breath is no longer baited.
burkieboy1
06-29-2006, 10:23 AM
ill sign im sick of lag howu supposts too understand what people are sayign if there voice breaks up
masterch13f
06-29-2006, 11:00 AM
or if they don't take the time to type correctly...
Take the time to fix your typos. It really helps.
Gawaiamon
07-01-2006, 02:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WretchedDrake:
Yeah and the sad thing is the patch made the game worse... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The patch did fix a few things, like invisi guns, infi reload, and I heard something about pipe bombs in car wrecks not being in there when they respawn any more. But yeah, why fook with the editor? Oh...that's right, you hate us...
OOOPS! Almost forgot to sign...aaaand...there we go.
Razecewic
07-04-2006, 07:58 AM
Agreed and approved.
The lag is pretty bad indeed, but I want the spotlight broad as well over the construction-crane thumbstick aiming. Halo 2 has the near-on perfect thumbstick system, take a peek over at Bungie, will ya Ubisoft?
*Razecewic signs petition*
masterch13f
07-04-2006, 08:03 AM
The 'infinite reload' thing for Evo is still there.
Jedimasterone1
07-11-2006, 01:03 PM
I'll put myself here as well hoping that a fix may come. Anything will help at this point. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif
Hey JayFlipz489, nice maps!