your opinion of "the roadmap" for Israel and Palestinians?

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i dont like it. the primary reason that i dont like it is that it rewards terrorism. look at the consession that Israel has to make (paraphrasing what i remember):
-pulling out of territories
-dismantling settlements
-freeing travel for Palestinians
-freeing Arafat

and what kind of "consessions" do the Palestinians make? they agree to stop murdering civilians? this means that the terrorists have got pretty much what they wanted, and this will encourage them more, maybe next theyll want Jerusalem and will just start bombing more... i dont think that the roadmap will lead to peace, and this "cease-fire" and the freeing of restrictions will simply allow the terrorist groups to regroup and come back stronger. but thats just my opinion.


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[XyZspineZyX]

i dont like it. the primary reason that i dont like it is that it rewards terrorism. look at the consession that Israel has to make (paraphrasing what i remember):
-pulling out of territories
-dismantling settlements
-freeing travel for Palestinians
-freeing Arafat

and what kind of "consessions" do the Palestinians make? they agree to stop murdering civilians? this means that the terrorists have got pretty much what they wanted, and this will encourage them more, maybe next theyll want Jerusalem and will just start bombing more... i dont think that the roadmap will lead to peace, and this "cease-fire" and the freeing of restrictions will simply allow the terrorist groups to regroup and come back stronger. but thats just my opinion.


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"Generals dont run; during peace this prompts laughter, during war this prompts panic."

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Olegious wrote:

- i dont think that the roadmap will
- lead to peace, and this "cease-fire" and the freeing
- of restrictions will simply allow the terrorist
- groups to regroup and come back stronger. but thats
- just my opinion.

I agree with what you say but if this don't work Israel should have every right to go full force against the terrorists and dont stop until they are dead. That would be the only way to end it once and for all.
I take my hat off to Israel for giving them what they ask for in order to have peace. Now is the Palestenians turn.


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i agree Hornet. im surprised this hasnt gotten more replies.


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I think this article sums it all up.....
http://www.desert-voice.net/isreal_&_palestine.htm




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[XyZspineZyX]

When Geist comes back I'm sure he'll throw his ha'penneth into the ring.

I'm with Oleg on this. The Palestinians make no concessions at all. Just like bringing up children, the first time you let them have their way to stop a tantrum, you will never be able to shift that reasoning from their head.

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I think it's better compromising the solution, but i really consider the ones backing out of this conflict the real heroes. They swallow their pride to end the bloodfeud.

It's a good thing someone is pulling out though since this has become more of a vendetta than a war on terrorism.

Soldiers killing innocent people in suicidebombings are not real martyrs. They didn't die for their sake, they died as massmurderers. The fear they strike into their victims is great, and the effect aswell. The methods are horrible and doesn't get anyone anywhere, except all over the street.

I recognize these so called martyrs as my tangos in this conflict.



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[XyZspineZyX]

The roadmap for Israel and Palestine is a bit like the Yellow Brick Road in the Wizard of Oz. Leads you everywhere except home. And Bush is the Wizard.

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[XyZspineZyX]

If Bush is the Wizard then **** Cheney must be the Tin Man considering his awful heart condition. At any rate, I agree with you MNG. This "Road Map" is just one more futile attempt on behalf of yet another administration to end a conflict where neither side truly wants to cease their hostilities. I don't ever think the US can be an honest broker, and I don't believe for a minute that the Israeli government or Palestinian Authority will ever take the necessary steps which could eventually lead to two states coexisting side-by-side peacefully. In fact, I think certain Arabs and Jews who are in positions of power are actually terrified of what future developments may occur as a result of the "Road Map" being implemented, hence they will do whatever they can to undermine it.

Message Edited on 07/10/0311:29PM by V3-Dev

[XyZspineZyX]

One of the most interseting things from all this is: Bush says to all that he is a Christian-perhaps he is, I don't know the man's heart. But-he certainly doesn't know his Scripture-or is just ignoring it.
God proclaimed a Lonnngggggg time ago that the Jews were his chosen people and that this land is set aside for them and no others. Bush even has Christian organizations like the 700 club and a few others questioning just what the hell he is doing.

I am confident that there are some very interesting developments awaiting us in the near future. I, for one, will be watching the proceedings with careful interest.
Can you do that?

Just a thought, almost an aside: Could Bush unwittingly be moving us and civilization closer to the End Times? I always liked that phrase- The End Times: Kinda just rolls off your tongue-eh ?

Never in history have events been unfolding at a more rapid rate than in recent times. While I have never been a doomsayer, as many in the Religious community have been since time began-or at least since the calendar was invented-probably by an alien. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I have always been of the opinion that I will cheerfully share my beliefs with anyone who cares to hear them, but I have a strict limit-self imposed. I know I cannot save the wrold- hell there are times when I question whether I am truly saved. if such a condition truly exists and I have been a recipient of it- I certainly never did anything to deserve it and, quite frankly- there are times when I am drenched in the certainty that I am not.

Thankfully, thes periods are shortlived and I come away from another conversation with my Maker once again assured that he does find me worthy- Although I must be judged on a sliding scale. Lol

I know we will and are all watching world events closely- Perhaps we will see more than we bargained for-perhaps we already have.


Oh, Slack, my young friend: Would you have any interest in perhaps resurrecting my old Sig- or -more realistically- could you and do you have the wherewithall to either design or find another one for me that is similar in taste and content?
Over on the Ghost recon Site there was an attempt made for me-but =although they were very nice-I was looking for something a little more understated:
If this is something you would rather not attempt- I understand perfectly- It is a rather bewildering trek when viewed from my perspective. Rather like attempting to teach your dog to paint your house:
I wonder??? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Leep Out:

I do feel rather naked without that old familiar figure at the end of my lackluster posts: rather gave me something to live and look up to- Darn that Rawluk- he spoiled me:




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MisterNiceGuy wrote:
- The roadmap for Israel and Palestine is a bit like
- the Yellow Brick Road in the Wizard of Oz. Leads
- you everywhere except home. And Bush is the Wizard.
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I guess that makes you the scacrrow, because you need a brain /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

sorry but you set yourself up for that one.


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V3-Dev wrote:
- If Bush is the Wizard then **** Cheney must be the
- Tin Man considering his awful heart condition. At
- any rate, I agree with you MNG. This "Road Map" is
- just one more futile attempt on behalf of yet
- another administration to end a conflict where
- neither side truly wants to cease their hostilities.
- I don't ever think the US can be an honest broker,
- and I don't believe for a minute that the Israeli
- government or Palestinian Authority will ever take
- the necessary steps which could eventually lead to
- two states coexisting side-by-side peacefully. In
- fact, I think certain Arabs and Jews who are in
- positions of power are actually terrified of what
- future developments may occur as a result of the
- "Road Map" being implemented, hence they will do
- whatever they can to undermine it.
-
- At least the US is trying to broker a peace deal, do you see any of the Arab countries, doing anything other then lip service?


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Hornet57 wrote:
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- MisterNiceGuy wrote:
-- The roadmap for Israel and Palestine is a bit like
-- the Yellow Brick Road in the Wizard of Oz. Leads
-- you everywhere except home. And Bush is the Wizard.
--
- I guess that makes you the scacrrow, because you
- need a brain

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[XyZspineZyX]

Like I said Hornet, the "Road Map" is just one more futile attempt on behalf of yet another administration to end a conflict where neither side truly wants to cease their hostilities. Furthermore, even if Arab countries were involved anymore then they actually are right now (i.e. Egypt helping convince Palestinian militants to declare a shaky cease-fire) in arbitrating the peace process, they too like the United States would not be able to do so as an honest broker. Ultimately, the "Road Map" was fundamentally flawed to begin with, hence its implementation is doomed to fail for a variety of reasons.