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Budweiser_Bubba

10-25-2004, 03:41 PM

I feel like Ralphie Parker on Christmas morning. We asked over and over for a red rider BB gun but we kept getting the same reply "You'll shoot your eye out without fraglock" So now we sit on Christmas morning in a bunny suit with no BB gun in sight. As long as this patch took I expected some decent changes,not eye candy. My copy as been retired after trying this new patch. I have giving up all up of RVS being a decent game. Oh well...so whats the next game I'm going to buy,well,it wont be from UBI thats for sure.

XyZspineZyX

10-25-2004, 03:43 PM

http://www.punksbusted.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15951

you will find a list of new pb configs.

wacokid29

10-25-2004, 03:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by freakishly:
http://www.punksbusted.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15951

you will find a list of new pb configs. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
really does that fix the set and exec cheats..no it dont...screw ubi ... **this type of behavior will not be tolerated***

Ofcr_Lawless

10-25-2004, 03:58 PM

My God people!
It was just released today and YES there is a **** load of problems. Give them a chance to work on it. They said there would be hotfixes if needed.

I guess I need to just keep this in my clipboard for a while...lol

WTE-LEGO

10-25-2004, 03:59 PM

So when is 1.61 out? July 2005?

Just asking btw http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Glock-A-Roo

10-25-2004, 04:02 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Budweiser_Bubba:
I feel like Ralphie Parker on Christmas morning. We asked over and over for a red rider BB gun but we kept getting the same reply "You'll shoot your eye out without fraglock" So now we sit on Christmas morning in a bunny suit with no BB gun in sight.. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OMG Bubba, that made me laugh! I love that movie! And the look on Ralphie's face is one we've probably all had dealing with RvS at one time or another.

Remember the spare tire scene? Where Ralphie dropped the lugnuts? Imagine a RvS player seeing his favorite game mucked up yet again, moaning "oh, fuuuuuuuudge...."!!! LOL!

aodlord

10-25-2004, 04:03 PM

im happy to know that you look foward to more quality patches from ubi, ***THIS IS YOUR FINAL WARNING ON FLAMING OTHERS***

Ofcr_Lawless

10-25-2004, 04:05 PM

Real nice aodlord...real nice.

wacokid29

10-25-2004, 04:18 PM

banned for flaming and name-calling. People please stop acting like children.
DayGlow/moderator

wacokid29

10-25-2004, 04:20 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ofcr_Lawless:
My God people!
It was just released today and YES there is a **** load of problems. Give them a chance to work on it. They said there would be hotfixes if needed.

I guess I need to just keep this in my clipboard for a while...lol <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
how god dam long do they need to test a patch so there isnt a ****load of problems..there should be very few problems...Ill NEVER BUY ANOTHER UBI PRODUCT

XyZspineZyX

10-25-2004, 04:26 PM

well maybe if people didn't go ape- and start spamming and flaming the boards we would get an answer from someone who actually works for the company.

http://www.punksbusted.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15951

Bigdog7700

10-25-2004, 04:56 PM

Well Freak while there behaviour is wrong the feeling is correct.

UBI released this product in an unsecured fashion.

The set & exec should have been locked since the begining.

The community has waited a long time only to be let down again!

while the other fixes may have made the game run smoother they do not change the fact that if the set & exec commands can still be run then PB is then not as effective as it could be and those little black hearted tards can create cheats that PB can not detect.

One thing is to have a cheat that only a few can use with their tech knowlege and be able to beat PB it is quite another that any script kiddie that can google it and run it can be able to beat PB.

This is not the first time UBI has dropped the ball.

I am thankful for everything they do that works but when the fail it never seems to be something little.

XyZspineZyX

10-25-2004, 05:00 PM

I agree the the commands not being locked is a big deal, but flaming and spamming is not going to change that. BT has brought it to the attention of the devs, and has also stated that there will be hotfixes. yes the commands are a huge deal, but freaking out on the forums is not going to get it fixed.

by the way, I thank you for discussing this in a mature manner.

Bigdog7700

10-25-2004, 05:08 PM

I don't disagree with you Freak.

Your right of course anyone violating the rules you guys have to deal with.

I guess all I am saying is of all the issues this was the one that was parramount ( forgive the spelling) If they new this was not going to solve this problem maybe it would have been better not to release it.

I know you have not played this game from the beginng dont let my reg date fool ya I have played since the demo. This is not the first time they have taken a great deal of time said they were going to resolve something only to let us down.

rickertsnaak

10-25-2004, 05:13 PM

"BT has brought it to the attention of the devs."

Do they devs live in a cave or something then

dranoel_awc

10-25-2004, 05:17 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by rickertsnaak:
"BT has brought it to the attention of the devs."

Do they devs live in a cave or something then <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, but I'm willing to bet they are not reading this forum right now so someone has to tell them about it.
And no, the Dev's should not be required to read any forums, that's not their job. The person who's job it is has brought it to their attention.

rickertsnaak

10-25-2004, 05:19 PM

"No, but I'm willing to bet they are not reading this forum right now so someone has to tell them about it.
And no, the Dev's should not be required to read any forums, that's not their job. The person who's job it is has brought it to their attention."

Jeez.. don't you get it?

dranoel_awc

10-25-2004, 05:38 PM

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by rickertsnaak:
Jeez.. don't you get it? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What? That you and others seem to be more interested in bashing UBI in the name of 'jest' rather than trying to be considerate and giving them a chance to fix things? I got that just fine. The statement you made of " .. do they live in caves .." implies that they are neanderthals who can not tell the difference between their *** and a hole in the ground, let alone be able to handle reading a forum full of flamming posts. That is hardly constructive.

Believe me, I am extremely frustrated over this patch, but I'm not going to go off half cocked and start being rude over it. It won't do any good, and in my experience it can have negative effects on the desires of those doing it. Like this hypothetical example - the devs saying "That's the way they are going to be? Then they can wait another 3 months for me to look at it."

* /em gets off his soap box *

aest_achilles

10-25-2004, 07:45 PM

thye new they were not patched from the beginning

ljelenko

10-25-2004, 10:45 PM

Well excuse me all pro-ubi speakers, but this is seriously going way to far. You need to realize, that you gave good money for that game, and you want something for it. Now I don't care that much about those minor bugs, aslong as those are minor and fixed relatvely fast. But they haven't been fixed since the release of Raven Shield, thats 2-3 years ago. But ok I could live with those bugs, if there weren't more bugs with every new patch. Now people can't join servers, their game crashes and stuff like that. Sorry to say it, but this isn't normal. I think it can't be hard to fix at least some of the problems the game has, and pre test the release.

On a side note, every new feature the game is offering and will offer in the future, should be added, and not replacing another one, so please give us the options to choose what do we want = I don't want new crosshairs after 3 years of playing, without privileges to change them to the old ones if I don't like them.

Traider_AFD

10-25-2004, 11:39 PM

Well, I do like the uni menu but would like to be able to do this with a SA too.Thats all I am going to say at this point!

Deficite

10-26-2004, 01:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by freakishly:
well maybe if people didn't go ape- and start spamming and flaming the boards we would get an answer from someone who actually works for the company. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh yes, like we have always gotten right? All those juicy and friendly comments that UBI is always willing to give us. In fact UBI is the most customer oriented company yet, always in such a hurry to satisfy their customers.

Btw freakisly where should we complain about these issues that have been here for AGES now? Nothing ever happens, these commands and other issues have been discussed and debated on these forums for god knows how long. Yet when a patch arrives after a long long time, it still doesnâÂ´t fix the things ppl ask for.

That really makes me wonder whatâÂ´s wrong. Either the communication from the customers to the devs ainâÂ´t working or the devs just donâÂ´t do their stuff. Eitherway itâÂ´s disturbing that not a single effort is made to satisfy the customers. ItâÂ´s also disturbing that you and the other moderators continously lock and delete threads that complain about these issues.

What other channels do we have for communication with UBI? Tell me and IâÂ´ll try one of those instead. ItâÂ´s obvious you donâÂ´t care, but I care and I demand a properly working product! Guess what(!) the first thing that happened to me was when I started playing 1.6? Zoom-bug, in the very first round i couldnâÂ´t scope back and i couldnâÂ´t shoot. No big deal, but annoying and even more annyoyng that itâÂ´s been here since the game got released.

Bet this post will be deleted anyway...

XyZspineZyX

10-26-2004, 01:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Deficite:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by freakishly:
well maybe if people didn't go ape- and start spamming and flaming the boards we would get an answer from someone who actually works for the company. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh yes, like we have always gotten right? All those juicy and friendly comments that UBI is always willing to give us. In fact UBI is the most customer oriented company yet, always in such a hurry to satisfy their customers.

Btw freakisly where should we complain about these issues that have been here for AGES now? Nothing ever happens, these commands and other issues have been discussed and debated on these forums for god knows how long. Yet when a patch arrives after a long long time, it still doesnâÂ´t fix the things ppl ask for.

That really makes me wonder whatâÂ´s wrong. Either the communication from the customers to the devs ainâÂ´t working or the devs just donâÂ´t do their stuff. Eitherway itâÂ´s disturbing that not a single effort is made to satisfy the customers. ItâÂ´s also disturbing that you and the other moderators continously lock and delete threads that complain about these issues.

What other channels do we have for communication with UBI? Tell me and IâÂ´ll try one of those instead. ItâÂ´s obvious you donâÂ´t care, but I care and I demand a properly working product! Guess what(!) the first thing that happened to me was when I started playing 1.6? Zoom-bug, in the very first round i couldnâÂ´t scope back and i couldnâÂ´t shoot. No big deal, but annoying and even more annyoyng that itâÂ´s been here since the game got released.

Bet this post will be deleted anyway... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

do you feel better now??

first of all i don't just randomly lock and or delete threads and posts. I will not tolerate flaming and arguing on these forums, and if this takes place then they are locked and or deleted. secondly I love this game, but people flaming and spamming the boards and acting like a bunch of preschoolers is not going to get anyone what they want. Do I want the game to be perfect....yes.... am i going to flame and abuse people over it?? no

if this is the worse thing going on in your life right now, i would say you have a pretty sweet life.

Deficite

10-26-2004, 02:04 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by freakishly:
do you feel better now??

first of all i don't just randomly lock and or delete threads and posts. I will not tolerate flaming and arguing on these forums, and if this takes place then they are locked and or deleted. secondly I love this game, but people flaming and spamming the boards and acting like a bunch of preschoolers is not going to get anyone what they want. Do I want the game to be perfect....yes.... am i going to flame and abuse people over it?? no

if this is the worse thing going on in your life right now, i would say you have a pretty sweet life. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

First of all, what does my life have to do with anything? Well one parallell from life...I buy a thing downtown and come home and find it broken. What do I do? I complain untill I get it replaced and fixed. If I find the software I purchased broken, what do I do? Complain at the official forum. Besides, where did I flame the new patch or ubi? IâÂ´ve merely asked whatâÂ´s going on and expressed my oppinions.

If you want to know anything more from my life, gimme a PM! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

votekick

10-26-2004, 02:13 AM

yes

RangerX3X

10-26-2004, 02:30 AM

Wow is about all I can say.

I am in wonder at all of you who are asking to give UBI a chance. They had over seven months to fix this inferior product and this is what we are given?

These are sad times for Rainbow Six.

P0RN_inDapantz

10-26-2004, 02:45 AM

As i sit here getting ready to put this pos game in a package and send it back to ubi as a form of protest,I just wanted to be added to the list of ppl that tell ubi to kiss my money and support goodbye.imho not fixing the dev commands is a major slap in the face and this patch is such a piece of **** they could not have spent the time they claim they did on it i truly believe it was just smoke and mirrors and at this point.

ITAF_MacGyver

10-26-2004, 02:50 AM

From the facts at hand, it appears that UBI rushed the patch out quite fast in the last week or two for whatever reason.

First of all from BT's update I got the impression that we shouldn't expect the patch for a few months. But all of a sudden it was here with no warning. In fact, it was here so quickly in a blink that lots of people didn't even believe that it was the real patch.

Next, we see that this patch didn't fix the things it was mainly supposed to (ie. dev commands locked), and on top of it, it ended up "breaking" at least one thing (ie. PunkBuster).

I personally cannot understand how this patch could have been released in its current state. Forget the rets or the likes and dislikes and things like the ESRB notice, or even N4admin not being workable due to a patch change, although that is the 3rd most important thing imo about this patch. It's the dev commands that is the main issue. They were supposed to be locked. It was so basic everyone was waiting for this patch just for those commands to be locked so everyone could play in ultra-secure tournaments and such. But not only has this patch not helped in the fight vs set and exec cheaters, but it's messed up the normal operations of PB.

In order, I think the following should be addressed:

1) PB CVAR's working properly, and anything else that is PB related that needs to be fixed.

2) set and exec LOCKED AND KILLED. STRIP IT OUT OF THE GAME. DON'T LEAVE IT FOR SINGLE PLAYER UNLESS YOU CAN MAKE ALL CHANGES VOID IN A MULTIPLAYER GAME. This was the reason for patch 1.6 from my understanding. Please address this.

3) Have some sort of SDK or at least give us some ability to mod so we can use programs like N4admin... and even N4Icon.

P0RN_inDapantz

10-26-2004, 03:03 AM

am i the only one that feels like a couple of ubi execs went drinking last weekend and said watch this this will really piss em off!

XyZspineZyX

10-26-2004, 04:20 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Deficite:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by freakishly:
do you feel better now??

first of all i don't just randomly lock and or delete threads and posts. I will not tolerate flaming and arguing on these forums, and if this takes place then they are locked and or deleted. secondly I love this game, but people flaming and spamming the boards and acting like a bunch of preschoolers is not going to get anyone what they want. Do I want the game to be perfect....yes.... am i going to flame and abuse people over it?? no

if this is the worse thing going on in your life right now, i would say you have a pretty sweet life. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

First of all, what does my life have to do with anything? Well one parallell from life...I buy a thing downtown and come home and find it broken. What do I do? I complain untill I get it replaced and fixed. If I find the software I purchased broken, what do I do? Complain at the official forum. Besides, where did I flame the new patch or ubi? IâÂ´ve merely asked whatâÂ´s going on and expressed my oppinions.

If you want to know anything more from my life, gimme a PM! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I did not say you were the one doing the above, only explaining to you why threads that I dealt with were locked, and or deleted. I am upset too about the patch. Not only because I love this game, but do you honestly think I like having to ban people, lock threads, and take abuse??

Deficite

10-26-2004, 04:38 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by freakishly:
I did not say you were the one doing the above, only explaining to you why threads that I dealt with were locked, and or deleted. I am upset too about the patch. Not only because I love this game, but do you honestly think I like having to ban people, lock threads, and take abuse?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok, then weâÂ´re on the same side I guess. LetâÂ´s just call out to BT then and _politely_ ask him to answer us.

RmS_Bingo

10-26-2004, 04:54 AM

<quote>What other channels do we have for communication with UBI? Tell me and IâÂ´ll try one of those instead.</quote>

Acctuallt, thats what i wonder to, cuz all the threads about the issues of this game seems like they are never rad by the devs ( or someone informs the devs of the tthreads content, like a moderator for example ) so is there any way to contact them by any forum or such...

I also got a sugestion that the devs should make it in to a IRC Network and have a live chat with the community like many other dev teams got.

SR-Castro

10-26-2004, 05:44 AM

What realy puzzels me is for the last half year players on this site has done nothing but complain about cheaters and the fact that it so simple to just execute simple txt file that PB could not detect. Even tournaments have been stoped due to this. And what do i find in this thread??? OOOOh nothing has been done about it and it has "now" been brought to the attetion of the developers!!!
OMFG!!!
Was not this the biggest issu of them all???? -That everybody have been complaining about?
Something that to a deree of 80% was the biggest issu to get solved has been disregarded!

I fully understand that the players online on this forum react as the do. right or not I understand.

"BT has brought it to the attention of the devs."

Hmmmpf

I don't think its you BT but something is realy ****ed up in your organisation....When the main issue player expects to be solve is ignored and the the lame coment of it has been brought to there attention... jesus

yes cave is a god word for it.

aodlord

10-26-2004, 06:06 AM

well ... lets see 7 months of extreme beta testing, recomiling , uncompiling, ****tepiling. UBI worked tehir butts of countless sleepless nights, no sex, no fresh air. Blood and tears were flying screams of horror could be heard from the developer's chambers. Ok now lets see what these fine smart canadian gentleman got us. A BRAND NEW RATICULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love ubisoft.... we all dreamed of a new raticule....

LT.INSTG8R

10-26-2004, 06:17 AM

Now the Problem with that is the "New" "Reticule" looks like someone stole it from the Original Rainbow 6 and dropped is Half-Assed over top of the Real Rets(and missed I might add cuz its off center to the left)they look like they ARE from Rogue Spear(as was their explanation) and look terribly dated and Low Tech
Does this mean I can blow the Dust off my Pentium 166? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

||DiStUrBeD||

10-26-2004, 06:27 AM

Let's have hope people... They didn't fix the automated patchsystem for nothing. (it was broke remember) I think the devs did a hell of a job on optimizing RVS. It runs way more smoother now. (at least for me) Let's be happy with that for now. If they want people to buy iron wrath they will have to close the devcommands....

lol i will probally buying anyway, cause despite the fact we are totaly ignored here, i still am very much in love with this game.

Positive vibrations !!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Bigdog7700

10-26-2004, 09:42 AM

Sorry Disco it runs better because they nuked Punkbuster.

The game runs like it did before PB.

Oh well maybe SWAT 4 will solve our problems.

Ofcr_Lawless

10-26-2004, 10:01 AM

According to m00se at PsB.

The chances of the game running faster because PB isn't working the same is "slim to none"

Bigdog7700

10-26-2004, 12:41 PM

If Moose said that then I must admit he is likely right.

I thought without the md5 tool & cvars that would affect game play.

All this means is they may have gotten some of it right but that does not change the fact they blew it on the set & exec's and no one is going to convince me they did not know it they killed the beta team on purpose to do this not to mention it should have been better coordinated with EB.

I also saw Moose trying to contact everybody at EB & UBI they brushed him off.

You must have seen those post's as well.

In the final analsys they blew it big time.

Would you not agree Lawless?

Yalrunlikegirls

10-26-2004, 12:57 PM

I see both side, yeah lets have hope! But patch after patch after patch of bugs and little fixes, I can see how peps would be frustrated and pissed!

Yallrun!

Ofcr_Lawless

10-26-2004, 01:26 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bigdog7700:
If Moose said that then I must admit he is likely right.

I thought without the md5 tool & cvars that would affect game play.

All this means is they may have gotten some of it right but that does not change the fact they blew it on the set & exec's and no one is going to convince me they did not know it they killed the beta team on purpose to do this not to mention it should have been better coordinated with EB.

I also saw Moose trying to contact everybody at EB & UBI they brushed him off.

You must have seen those post's as well.

In the final analsys they blew it big time.

Would you not agree Lawless? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Sure, there are alot of mistakes and I don't think it was tested nearly enough if at all.
Apparently an attempt was made a locking out the dev commands because at first they didn't work but then later a hole was found in which it could be made to work. The rets were something that wasn't asked for and the map change thing although it may have a usefullness, it overrides admin's authority and does not seem to have a option to turn off...yet. PB's intergration needs to be worked on...and is. I was hoping just like everyone else that we would downlaod the patch and *poof* like magic, all of our problems would be solved.

Ok dream scene over.
We were told there would be hotfixes for issues that stem from 1.6.

ITAF_MacGyver

10-26-2004, 01:42 PM

Lawless...

Some set and exec commands could be run during online gameplay before 1.6.

Most others to my knowledge had to be run the way they can be run now.

It's not really true that "at first they didn't work but then later a hole was found", since the popular way of doing things was the 2nd method I mentioned.

But even online after 1.6 I could reset my reload | teamsay bind with a set command, so who knows? That's the only one I tested.

I honestly don't know how it can be so hard to kill off two console commands. Six or seven months to kill them?

WDA_Skip

10-26-2004, 02:23 PM

1.6=****

Now we can wait on a patch for the patch or an "official withdrawl" of 1.6

16mb of ubi intro
1mb of vote map

**** I say!

dranoel_awc

10-26-2004, 03:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by ||DiStUrBeD||:
Positive vibrations !!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hehe

Hey Disturbed, do you see as many Moriarty's around here as I do? WOOF WOOF http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

KaosxNotor

10-26-2004, 04:24 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by freakishly:
well maybe if people didn't go ape- and start spamming and flaming the boards we would get an answer from someone who actually works for the company.

http://www.punksbusted.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15951 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif this is the worst come back line u could have chosen m8

Silfverfox

10-27-2004, 01:18 AM

Well, since this patch dont exklude cheaters. I find myself going back to Call of Duty and UBI will lose at least one player who wont buy my next game from them.

Woosy

10-27-2004, 03:09 AM

I'll keep playing this game till a new tatical shooter comes out like alot of people have mentioned swat4.

I'm just disapointed the way the game has been handled if it was done right i think it would be such an awesome game, and the fan base who left because of the hiccups before great people like kungfu_cia might still be here.

I do agree with alot of the posts you have said but i have to disagree about buying future products, this game was made on a beta engine i'm told and i don't think the designers where competent enough to code it properly future games maybe different though it would need me playing a demo or playing the game in a lan cafe before buying.

All in all i still like this game and it still my favorite the community is loverly far superior to the one of counter-strike and thats all i want just a shame the patches didn't do what they where intended to do.

vivalafranc

10-27-2004, 03:58 AM

**If you don't know how to behave in a proper manner don't post at all. This will be you only warning, removed your other thread with same content.**

instant

10-27-2004, 05:33 AM

comment:
PB is the ruin of any online game.

question:
Do you still need cd-in-drive and remove all your cd-burning software as well as have "compatible" hardware to play this game with 1.6, or have they finally come to their senses and removed this ridiculous requirement?

Gunny Highway

10-27-2004, 06:09 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by instant:
comment:
PB is the ruin of any online game.

question:
Do you still need cd-in-drive and remove all your cd-burning software as well as have "compatible" hardware to play this game with 1.6, or have they finally come to their senses and removed this ridiculous requirement? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

FYI it isn't a problem on all systems with virtaul drivers and emulation software, just some, and I suspect it is the chipset drivers as they contain the drivers etc usage of drives, e.g for nforce chipset mother boards the newest drivers from nvidia solve the problem. It could be the firmware of the CD drive it can often be updated.

instant

10-27-2004, 06:27 AM

@Gunny:

Well, actually it is a problem with the archaic methods used by UBISoft and other antiquated publishers who insist on infecting their published software with copywrong viruses that only cause problems to those who *do* purchase their products.

I stopped playing RS at around v1.3 because I got so tired of having to find the dang CD. But I do want to play the game again (if only to finish the singleplayer portion - PB ruined the online mode a long time ago) but only if the Cd-in-drive requirement is removed, so I asked if they had remove it. [UT2004 got its cd-check removed in the second patch for the game, so obviously some publishers have gotten "the message(tm)".]

MrCoffe

10-27-2004, 07:40 AM

OOOOk, my turn! Nope, not gonna thrash UBI (too much) nor the moderators.

I too am upset about the dev commands to the point of using my RVS CD's as coffee coasters. However, I am waiting for a response from BT as to whether there is a plan from the Devs. The reticule is super ugly and HUGE but a fix for that has been posted and guess what, People are whinning the high heaven over the fix. Is there anything in this online world that some of you (not mentioning names) won't complain about??

In regards to all the cheating and the problems at TWL. You folks need to read the reasons again. Not only was it because of the cheating but also because of the "WHINNING and CRYING" all the time about cheating. Truth is that most of the time when screams of cheating go off like a siren your wrong. I have seen more people accused of cheating who were actually just skilled players simply because some folks believe they can't be killed.

Also, if you ever checked the forums on Punksbusted you would have read that most cheats are stopped on servers with the latest and greatest CVAR updates, however, I have learned that a majority of servers don't update and open themselves up to cheats. So, we can't blame it all on the dev commands. Be an adult and accept some responsibility.

With that said, I do agree, UBI has left us no other place to respond and I think the moderators should (mostly do) take that into consideration.

Enough said!

Ofcr_Lawless

10-27-2004, 08:00 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by instant:
comment:
PB is the ruin of any online game.

question:
Do you still need cd-in-drive and remove all your cd-burning software as well as have "compatible" hardware to play this game with 1.6, or have they finally come to their senses and removed this ridiculous requirement? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
What is your issue with Punkbuster?
It is doing alot for this game. We all wish it could do more and maybe someday it will.
I'm just curious.

TheSaint006

10-27-2004, 12:23 PM

I don't know if you american friends are gettin the same problems as us brits but there is mixed reports over here that the new patch has inproved or ruined performance in MP. I am 1 of those who constantly have serious jerky movements since the patch and now i can't play the game with the new patch. On the other hand peeps are sayin it's made gameplay more smooth http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif. So if anyone is gettin that problem and knows a way to fix it please tell..

I would prefere that ubi recall the patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Budweiser_Bubba

10-27-2004, 12:41 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by instant:
@Gunny:

I stopped playing RS at around v1.3 because I got so tired of having to find the dang CD. .] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

****!!! And I thought I was lazy!

MH_DoMiNaTrIx

10-27-2004, 01:19 PM

Well i have to say that i am not impressed with them patching some of the Unreal editor. Maps that have been made by our group, have been totally wiped out when they added this patch. These guys spent several hours and months on these maps, can you not tell ppl that this could happen in the patch info. And don't blame it on there graphics as it has nothing to do with it when it is several ppl affected by this.
Very disappointed.

dranoel_awc

10-27-2004, 05:19 PM

Ok, I think it is nice to be able to load a CD image onto your hard drive so you don't have to rely on having a disk in your drive. Now with that said ...
So many games, at least at the start, have the requirement to put a real disk in a drive that you really should expect it. And from what I have seen, MOST of the game that eventually don't require a CD in a drive are due to someone cracking the code enough to allow this. Not officially from the producer.
Personally, I have about 5 games right now I like to play. I keep one in the CD-drive, and the other 4 are kept in 2 double-CD jewel cases right on the corner of my desk. Want to play another game? It's right there in easy reach. Both cases are clear plastic so I can quickly glance and see which one I need to grab for the CD I need and switch it out in no time. No, I did not go buy any jewel cases to do this either, enough games come with 2 disks now that I simply took out the cardboard from two of them.

MaDAmunRa

10-28-2004, 10:02 AM

Bump her up to the top

BL4444444444t

10-28-2004, 10:21 AM

If u delete or moderate ppls opinions, its the same as hanging up the phone @ customercare or telling your customer he's a tard and he passed his bedtime etc. etc.

Ubisoft hides behind their forum moderators who get payed to tell ppl to shut up.

They don't take our opinions and arguements with them. We all know what they did with it, look at the BETA team that got kicked.

There are alot of questions from our sides, and in the end we all end up to the same conclusion:

'UBI just can't create a patch that actually fixes the game, but it more damages the game.'

I swear i will never buy a Ubisoft game again.
Good job Ubisoft by destroying the game we all loved untill the latest 3 patches.

If u want to end up with ZERO players or maybe a few (those who are stupid enough to buy the game, not knowing that the latest patches are absolutly a nightmare). Thats one way to fix the 'complaining' community so u don't have to make more patches. Why don't u just add more build-in cheats and more bugs and more weird things?? Or DO u CARE?

If there is a way to sue Ubisoft, i think the end is near. We ain't done yet!!!!!!!

ps. Patch 1.6 will never be accepted by any Ravenshield Ladder. On some ladders ESL (really big German ladder) they even delete(d) the entire Ravenshield game. More will follow.

DayGlow

10-28-2004, 10:30 AM

It's a $40 game. Get over it. There are some people that waste way too much energy about something so trivial. Think Ubi is wrong? Fine, move on, but geez.

BTW, we don't get paid. We are volunteers from the community that would like to see something beyond a kiddy flame forum. People's posts are aren't deleteed or censored because of their opinions, only if they can't present them in a mature fashion. Act like a tard and flame, get your post deleted and eventually banned. Post in a mature fashion and explain your disapointment, no skin off anyones nose.

BL4444444444t

10-28-2004, 10:44 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DayGlow:
It's a $40 game. Get over it. There are some people that waste way too much energy about something so trivial. Think Ubi is wrong? Fine, move on, but geez.

BTW, we don't get paid. We are volunteers from the community that would like to see something beyond a kiddy flame forum. People's posts are aren't deleteed or censored because of their opinions, only if they can't present them in a mature fashion. Act like a tard and flame, get your post deleted and eventually banned. Post in a mature fashion and explain your disapointment, no skin off anyones nose. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And again u (they) are trying to get away with it.

First of all, $40 is alot of money for CHILDREN.

As your banner says:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>I am not an employee of Eagle Dynamics nor Ubisoft and I do not speak for them.
All my comments are IMHO <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

'We don't get payed'.

What are you doing here then? Beeing a nanny and/or beeing a dictator?

People write here because they 'think' their voice is beeing heard and they get answers from Ubisoft and not from someone with a OWN OPINION.

U should she all negative posts as a Complain-letter. Treath it that way and do not just read it and check it for 'bad' language so u can disable their forum rights.

Forums are too much beeing used to get away with it.

DayGlow

10-28-2004, 10:52 AM

are you talking about the German forum? I have no idea what happenned there, but for the admin to lock the whole thing because of the behaviour of people should be a wake up call. The fact that the internet is annoymous does not give anyone the right to act like a *******. You complain of customer rights? Try going into any store and use the language and rants and insults people post on a forum and see how long before you are removed. You want to be heard? Them post in a mature civil fashion. It's that simple

As for what I am doing here, I am a moderator. I help run the forum and make sure people follow the rules. The rules are set out so that everyone has an enjoyable experience here. That means things such as language and content of posts are monitored. I am a member of this community and I would like to see it thrive, not overrun by people that think flaming and fighting is fun. They are not welcome here.

This is not kindergarden and there is little tolerance for immature people. Go post on gamespy if that's the type of forum you want to be part of.

Kastlefeer

10-28-2004, 11:14 AM

'Drop the snow globe kiddo!'

'Rosebud!' ...

*clunk*

It was nice while it lasted ... mp demo v.1.0 had me going ...

Philipz

10-28-2004, 11:25 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by jaminblack:
- Fix Nade Bug <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

UBI has already publicly stated that will never be fixed due to the fact that they could not reproduce it. This goes for all packet-loss releated bugs.

Ofcr_Lawless

10-28-2004, 11:30 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by BL4444444444t:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DayGlow:
It's a $40 game. Get over it. There are some people that waste way too much energy about something so trivial. Think Ubi is wrong? Fine, move on, but geez.

BTW, we don't get paid. We are volunteers from the community that would like to see something beyond a kiddy flame forum. People's posts are aren't deleteed or censored because of their opinions, only if they can't present them in a mature fashion. Act like a tard and flame, get your post deleted and eventually banned. Post in a mature fashion and explain your disapointment, no skin off anyones nose. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And again u (they) are trying to get away with it.

First of all, $40 is alot of money for CHILDREN.

As your banner says:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>I am not an employee of Eagle Dynamics nor Ubisoft and I do not speak for them.
All my comments are IMHO <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

'We don't get payed'.

What are you doing here then? Beeing a nanny and/or beeing a dictator?

People write here because they 'think' their voice is beeing heard and they get answers from Ubisoft and not from someone with a OWN OPINION.

U should she all negative posts as a Complain-letter. Treath it that way and do not just read it and check it for 'bad' language so u can disable their forum rights.

Forums are too much beeing used to get away with it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dayglow-Kimmi-Gunny-and Freak do a great job keeping these forums moderated. They have a job that very few would take. As Dayglow told you, and I've seen it happen soo much lately, they let you tell your side of the story as long as you tell it maturely. If you come in with a childish attitude swearing and flamming, you get the boot. And if that happens you deserve it. If you want to contact UBI directly, it has been posted several times.

Play by the rules or leave.

dranoel_awc

10-28-2004, 12:18 PM

Hear hear Ofcr_Lawless. Well said.

Cain_

10-28-2004, 03:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DayGlow:
are you talking about the German forum? I have no idea what happenned there, but for the admin to lock the whole thing because of the behaviour of people should be a wake up call. The fact that the internet is annoymous does not give anyone the right to act like a *******. You complain of customer rights? Try going into any store and use the language and rants and insults people post on a forum and see how long before you are removed. You want to be heard? Them post in a mature civil fashion. It's that simple

As for what I am doing here, I am a moderator. I help run the forum and make sure people follow the rules. The rules are set out so that everyone has an enjoyable experience here. That means things such as language and content of posts are monitored. I am a member of this community and I would like to see it thrive, not overrun by people that think flaming and fighting is fun. They are not welcome here.

This is not kindergarden and there is little tolerance for immature people. Go post on gamespy if that's the type of forum you want to be part of. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I went into a store for the 6th or 7th time and they blew me of like I didnt even exist I would probably contact some people that could help me with the problem (or bring a shotgun...), but with games what option do we have? Its way to easy to blow people of cause the have no real responsibilities to fix anything, they can discontinue when THEY will even though we payed full price for a product that dosent live up to its expectations.

When I buy a consumer product like a phone and its broken I will return the product for repair, if the after descent time cant fix it I would get e new working product or a refund, why should games and software be any different?

Now its rvs 1.6 so you can se that in a normal product I would have gotten a working product or a refund a long time ago, so when people loose their cool and start flaming keep in mind that they might have tried to be calm many times before, but WHERE has this gotten them?

Ofcr_Lawless

10-28-2004, 03:47 PM

dranoel_awc

10-28-2004, 03:51 PM

Listen to him, he's the 'Information Traffic Cop'. He knows what he's talking about.

heheh J/K'ing with ya Lawless about your title. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
But you are correct. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ofcr_Lawless

10-28-2004, 03:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Dranoel_AWC:
Listen to him, he's the 'Information Traffic Cop'. He knows what he's talking about.

heheh J/K'ing with ya Lawless about your title. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
But you are correct. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Careful Dranoel_AWC, you don't want me to break out the cuffs do ya?

Don't answer, I don't want to know.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

DayGlow

10-28-2004, 03:55 PM

doesn't make an excuse to act like a child. If you are not satified with the level of support, then as a consumer I would advise you to take your business elsewhere. Be it a software company or a mom and pop store down the street.

Understand that I am not making excuses for Ubisoft. There is not a lot of communication in this forum. At the same time in the LOMAC forum the devs are there and do talk with the community. It's really left up to the individual dev teams and their personality.

As far as tech support I'd say Ubi is right on par with the whole industry, right around crappy. I don't think they are any worse than EA, Activision, Microsoft, etc. What a lot of people make the mistake of, is that they believe this board is an official conduit to Ubisoft. It isn't, it's a community forum run by community members. Ubi creates these boards and that's about it. There are links in the help forum on how to contact Ubi and it's 'official' support.

If you truelly believe you have been let down by the product contact them through those official channels and speak to the company, or go through the store that sold you the software. These forums, right or wrong, are not going to get you heard.

Cain_

10-28-2004, 04:05 PM

And again, if UBI did they job you wouldnââ‚¬™t have to delete that many posts, its in peoples nature to get angry and blow of steam and posting on a forum is a harmless way of doing so.

People feel that UBI is not listening, we all know that mistakes can be done, but how about using the official rvs page to acknowledge to the community that an error has been made or that a new patch is arriving shortly, just a bit of info accessible for the common rvs player who donââ‚¬™t want to use a day looking up info that should be where it belongs.

If UBI cant do their job right maybe they should start writing childrenââ‚¬™s books instead.

NESCLARK

10-28-2004, 04:09 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Cain_:
Now its rvs 1.6 so you can se that in a normal product I would have gotten a working product or a refund a long time ago, so when people loose their cool and start flaming keep in mind that they might have tried to be calm many times before, but WHERE has this gotten them? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not inside the corporate doors of UBI for sure. They delivered a poor result this year despite their one hit wonder in Farcry, where the designers realized the error of sitting in the same boat as UBI and jumped ship.

RedStormEntertainment should realize the same by now and go looking for a publisher that can represent their usually flawless products in a more worthy manner. The laughable excuse for a publisher that is UBI will soon be swimming with the rest of the wannabes in the gaming industry that failed to realize that they're here for the customers and not the other way around.

This forum is regulated by standard forum rules. Stay on topic, don't swear and don't post flames aimed at individuals. My post has not broken theese rules, but will UBI like to read it? Most likely not. But it's my personal experience in dealing with them, one honest voice among their consumers. If it's repeated enough we might cause a policy change. That's why posts like theese must be allowed to remain and not be deleted or moderated in any way.

dranoel_awc

10-28-2004, 04:17 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ofcr_Lawless:

Careful Dranoel_AWC, you don't want me to break out the cuffs do ya?

Don't answer, I don't want to know.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

sls1aw

10-28-2004, 04:25 PM

wow.. alot of jerks are coming in to the servers.. It's amazing.. I had 5 guin banned guys trying to come in. I have newbies that are callin every one cheaters, and a slew of tkers!!

My ban list is getting huge!!!

FireStorm2KO

10-28-2004, 06:18 PM

they should just shrink the size of the new rets

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mbc123

10-28-2004, 09:30 PM

Dayglow do you have a problem with the community members ?all i have seen you do is threaten to ban people nothing you say is constructive in reply why do you bother being a mod ffs

posted Thu October 28 2004 10:30
It's a $40 game. Get over it. There are some people that waste way too much energy about something so trivial. Think Ubi is wrong? Fine, move on, but geez.

$40 $200 is irrelevent you expect something to work when you purchase it don,t YOU or am i wrong.Don,t you understand that people are going to voice there opinions over 1.6 and me like others are pissed with ubi!!!We have waited 8 months with baited breath for what vote map change and a poxy ret not the important issues like dev commands and game crashes so go on then derglow ban me aswell put me in your trophy cabinet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

DayGlow

10-28-2004, 09:40 PM

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I tire of people who feel that temper tantrums are the way to solve their problems. Yes I have made some comments to people for what I feel is over-reacting to the patch and the issues they have.

There are a lot of people who post that have issues that I do not comment on. Why is that? Could it be that they actually post in a mature fashion?

Yes, it's a $40 dollar game, meaning that comments demeaning to the devs, other community members, etc are not warrented or tolerated. If the wait for the patch makes you that angery that you cannot control yourself and act like a child, then you need to re-think your priorities.

I apologize if I have insulted you, that is not my intention. I hope everyone enjoys the game and have no problems if you don't and feel the need to post it on the forum. All I ask is that you follow the rules and act civilly

mbc123

10-28-2004, 09:57 PM

Dayglow you have got to understand people are annoyed with this patch it is,nt solving the real issues in the game CHEATING for 1 so your telling me that after months of beta testing 1.6 they overlooked dev commands or is it ubi devs just don,t know how to correct this!!And i am sorry for ranting @ you i just want answers from ubi i have played this game from the demo it was the best game i ever played and still could be with the correct fixes don,t u agree

Gunny Highway

10-28-2004, 10:03 PM

DayGlow

10-28-2004, 10:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by mbc123:
Dayglow you have got to understand people are annoyed with this patch it is,nt solving the real issues in the game CHEATING for 1 so your telling me that after months of beta testing 1.6 they overlooked dev commands or is it ubi devs just don,t know how to correct this!!And i am sorry for ranting @ you i just want answers from ubi i have played this game from the demo it was the best game i ever played and still could be with the correct fixes don,t u agree <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I fully understand the frustration. As Gunny said, the dev commands have been locked within the MP evironment, there are just ways around it.

I don't fully understand it, but from what I have gathered there is no on/off switch for the commands and that they are part of the backbone of the whole engine. To simply shut them off isn't possible. Everything in the engine is configured through 'set' commands, etc. In the GUI when you change the rez of the game, it probably uses 'set' commands to change the rez, etc.

Like I said I don't fully understand why, but I do know that no one is trying to purposely sabotage the game.

LT.INSTG8R

10-28-2004, 10:20 PM

Now heres something I did notice
there is nothing on the Official Ubi.com website about this patch being posted/released and they have updated it since its release(the site)hmmm.....

instant

10-29-2004, 05:30 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Budweiser_Bubba:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by instant:
@Gunny:

I stopped playing RS at around v1.3 because I got so tired of having to find the dang CD. .] <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

****!!! And I thought I was lazy! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I should rephrased it.

I was so tired of having to open my DVD+/-RW drive to insert the Raven SHield CD after removing the Flashpoint CD and putting it away for secure storage only to find out that the server i was joining was not accepting more connections due to some bug or finding the Ubi soft game lobby unavaialble for connections, thus having to reopen the DVD+/-RW drive and removing the raven shield cd, putting it in its 'box' and re-inserting another game cd that ALSO requires cd-in-drive.

Sometimes I wonder why I even pay for this software, especially when I dont have to go through all that hassle with the downloaded versions of games.

instant

10-29-2004, 05:33 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ofcr_Lawless:
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
What is your issue with Punkbuster?
It is doing alot for this game. We all wish it could do more and maybe someday it will.
I'm just curious.[/QUOTE]

When punkbuster messes up you are either unable to connect to the game or might even end up banned for some bug.

When punkbuster is implemented the game usually suffers a lot of bad side effects - such as added lag and being unable to play the game at all.

Punkbuster gives players a false sense of security when those that cheat "professionally" are not caught and only the no-skill whiners are caught with their 1 year old bots or whatever.

Anticheat starts and ends with the Administrators of the servers doing their job and not relying on some two-bit third party software that fouls up half of the time its running.

ITAF_MacGyver

10-29-2004, 06:23 AM

instant.... Try harder, man. You gotta do better than that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I love having PB on. While I wish it was more effective than it is now, there's no way it's a "two-bit third party software that fouls up half of the time its running." Usually only cheaters or people ignorant about PB and the way it works attack it in such an ignorant fashion.

If ya were banned "for some bug", why don't ya tell us about it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

instant

10-29-2004, 07:06 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by ITAF_MacGyver:
instant.... Try harder, man. You gotta do better than that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I love having PB on. While I wish it was more effective than it is now, there's no way it's a "two-bit third party software that fouls up half of the time its running." Usually only cheaters or people ignorant about PB and the way it works attack it in such an ignorant fashion.

If ya were banned "for some bug", why don't ya tell us about it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I did not say I was banned did I?

I've read the Punkbuster Changelogs and they specifically stated that "admins should check their logs to see if anyone were kicked/banned for violations of ... <whatever>" since they were caused by bugs in Punkbuster [this is a while ago, as I do not have the habit of checking punkbuster changelogs every day, or year for that matter - but I doubt they have improved their behaviour much, especially when judging how many problems there have been with AA due to PB and now the PB problems in RS]

"Attack in Ignorant Fashion".

I'm not going to spend time to dig up information about how PB is a detrimental factor to online gameplaying due to it adding bugs and lagg in online games. Just ask around and you'll surely hear it from more people [that excludes the fanboys who hang around]. Take my word for it. :-)

FF=ON and no penalty to teamkill is a good way to get rid of the worst cheaters.

Ofcr_Lawless

10-29-2004, 07:50 AM

PB catches a hell-o-lot of cheaters everyday. I am a PB admin for our servers and without PB this game would have been a gonner a long time ago. You think ppl are sick and tired of cheaters now? I can't imagine how bad it would be without PB. I do my job looking through thousands of screenshots every week but PB still catches more than we admins can looking at SS's.
What more do you expect us admins to do? Do you want us to kick ppl we "suspect" of cheating? I say no, that is why we have PB. PB verifies files and things that we cannot see.

You don't seem to have alot of experience with PB but rather listening to hear-say and rumors.
I don't blame you for that, I'm sure you don't work as closely with it as we do.

PB has had very few "bugs" and those that have come up have been taken care of very quickly.

Possibally you might want to spend even more time on www.punksbusted.com (http://www.punksbusted.com) and see just how much we DO care about not banning the innocent and strive to rid these games of the cheaters.

dranoel_awc

10-29-2004, 10:54 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DayGlow:
... As Gunny said, the dev commands have been locked within the MP evironment, there are just ways around it.

I don't fully understand it ... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't get it either. What's really frustrating is the fact that prior to the 1.56 patch(? not completely sure but it was around this patch) these commands were TOTALLY locked out for MP. No way to get around it that I ever heard of. So what happened that they can't figure out how to lock them out again?

DayGlow

10-29-2004, 10:59 AM

where the file hacks undoable, or has this hole always been there, just not public knowladge until people tried breaking it?

dranoel_awc

10-29-2004, 11:16 AM

It's possible they may have always been available to access, I can't deny the possibility. But the probability of that being there for that long and it NOT being brought to the forums??? That seems a bit far fetched to me. But still not impossible.

BL4444444444t

10-31-2004, 07:48 AM

fix the **** things we want. I dont care about the ****ty netcode, we just want console commands to be locked and to get rid of the HUGE crosshairs.

kmac13

10-31-2004, 10:21 AM

Quick question - has anyone noticed sound consequences to patch 1.6? I'm occasionally seeing shots taken, fuel barrels exploding, and frags going off with no sound attached to the event - only a visual cue ... Am I the only one?

masiro666

10-31-2004, 01:07 PM

An over 8000 download Pistol Mod goes to hell with this wonderfull patch.
I could make bunch of reticules in time of a few hours, bah and I can do it better.
What the hell of game company is this, fooling everyone hyjacking the original RainbowSix brilliant concept?
The MASP pistols where balanced with the rest of the pistol fully respecting the game. They look better and are similar or even lower on polygon counts. I worked for months on it to make some perfect animated models. I think UBI you created a terrorist called Masiro http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

instant

10-31-2004, 03:30 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ofcr_Lawless:
You don't seem to have alot of experience with PB but rather listening to hear-say and rumors.
I don't blame you for that, I'm sure you don't work as closely with it as we do.
. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Playing the game is all the experience with PB I need. It lags the game.

I'd rather have cheaters than lag.

ITAF_MacGyver

11-01-2004, 03:52 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by instant:
I'd rather have cheaters than lag. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

For this statement, I can't help thinking... nevermind. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

For those wondering about the way to exploit the set and exec commands, yes this current exploit was there and was even sometimes necessary to run certain cheats online for 1.56. So basically, perhaps UBI stopped a few things, but you can still run a heck of a lot of stuff now.

Ofcr_Lawless

11-01-2004, 06:44 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by instant:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Ofcr_Lawless:
You don't seem to have alot of experience with PB but rather listening to hear-say and rumors.
I don't blame you for that, I'm sure you don't work as closely with it as we do.
. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Playing the game is all the experience with PB I need. It lags the game.

I'd rather have cheaters than lag. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here is your perfect solution....don't play on PB servers.