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i-am-very-bored
11-08-2006, 07:05 PM
NO LOVE INTEREST? I just beat the game, there was absolutely NO love interest between sam and enrika AT ALL ( and i played mostly in favor of the jba, most of the time it was jba confident, nsa suspicious)
It only showed the cutscene where enrica gets killed, but it didnt show the part where sam and enrica make out.
Do i have to play in favor of the NSA for this to happen?
Thats really cheap, I thought it was in the current gen version. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
oh well at least the cutscene were sam pops out of the snow and kills the guy who killed enrica is there.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

98% of the teenage population will try, does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your signature.

Emile:this is where it all pays off, and we couldnt have done it without you,fisher!
Samhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifont thank me yet (jumps out of plane)
(5 seconds later)
emile: (listening to something about sam)
it seems sikes was right, our MR. FISHER is a traitor and a spy, kill fisher on sight!

i-am-very-bored
11-08-2006, 07:05 PM
NO LOVE INTEREST? I just beat the game, there was absolutely NO love interest between sam and enrika AT ALL ( and i played mostly in favor of the jba, most of the time it was jba confident, nsa suspicious)
It only showed the cutscene where enrica gets killed, but it didnt show the part where sam and enrica make out.
Do i have to play in favor of the NSA for this to happen?
Thats really cheap, I thought it was in the current gen version. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
oh well at least the cutscene were sam pops out of the snow and kills the guy who killed enrica is there.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

98% of the teenage population will try, does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your signature.

Emile:this is where it all pays off, and we couldnt have done it without you,fisher!
Samhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifont thank me yet (jumps out of plane)
(5 seconds later)
emile: (listening to something about sam)
it seems sikes was right, our MR. FISHER is a traitor and a spy, kill fisher on sight!

XyonicS
11-08-2006, 10:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by i-am-very-bored:
NO LOVE INTEREST? I just beat the game, there was absolutely NO love interest between sam and enrika AT ALL ( and i played mostly in favor of the jba, most of the time it was jba confident, nsa suspicious)
It only showed the cutscene where enrica gets killed, but it didnt show the part where sam and enrica make out.
Do i have to play in favor of the NSA for this to happen?
Thats really cheap, I thought it was in the current gen version. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
oh well at least the cutscene were sam pops out of the snow and kills the guy who killed enrica is there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I get the feeling that after the comment at the start of the game about her being around Sarah's age that he would be more protective like a father figure, rather than ravishing a girl he looks upon as a stand in for his daughter.

I would think a love scene would be just, well, bad taste.

For the 360 mob, they don't get any of this story so Shanghai desided thats how they wanted it to go.

Thankfully the XBox version is better at telling the story.

I recon that <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] just handed a list of stuff to Shangai and said this has to be in the game and on that list was a girls name, so they jumped to the conclusion that it was a romantic intrest. While The team that did the other versions were closer to the center of control so they got it how it was should to be.

Once again it shows that Shanghai should not be left in control of a title in this series, unless you want a game that <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] should be ashamed to lable Splinter Cell.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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i-am-very-bored
11-09-2006, 10:50 AM
So there isnt one?
hmm, i had like 5 people on SVS tell me there was....and i think i read somewhere that <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">ubi[/b] confirmed there would be on the current gens.
oh yeah,forgot to mention and the first DA trailer shows like 5 seconds of it.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

98% of the teenage population will try, does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your signature.

Emile:this is where it all pays off, and we couldnt have done it without you,fisher!
Samhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifont thank me yet (jumps out of plane)
(5 seconds later)
emile: (listening to something about sam)
it seems sikes was right, our MR. FISHER is a traitor and a spy, kill fisher on sight!

LoneInTheDark
11-09-2006, 12:57 PM
I didn't get a "love scene" on xbox 1 either. But throughout the game the 2 of them would make these puppy love comments to each other, like the one where she tells him to say something nice to her or something like that and he says you have nice earlobes. So teenager, but sweet. In the 360 there is a 10 second cutscene where he puts her to the wall and kisses her, it was done well.

insanity76
11-09-2006, 01:03 PM
The incentive to triggering that scene on the 360 is you can bypass the 2 JBA objectives with no trust loss.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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LoneInTheDark
11-09-2006, 06:05 PM
But they are talking about on the xbox 1 version. Just like I haven't seen the clip where she says something like, "Sam, you are a bad boy." He says back, "You have no idea.". I haven't seen that one in either version. Also the one of her closing her curtains in her underwear.

stealthmaster736
11-09-2006, 09:01 PM
...an old guy and a young chick making out...were you seriously eager to see that. I'm sorry, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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LoneInTheDark
11-09-2006, 09:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stealthmaster736:
...an old guy and a young chick making out...were you seriously eager to see that. I'm sorry, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
J/k http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I haven't seen a human male yet, regardless of age who could even come close to Sam. He is the ultimate male. Let me put it to you this way, I am around "college boys" all day long, and I wouldn't even go to the grocery store with them, but show me a man like Sam, even at his incredible age total perfection. Oh by the way most of the heart throbs in the movie industry, are over 40, well...enough said.

stealthmaster736
11-09-2006, 10:07 PM
...please tell me that your a girl. If your a guy, then okay, that's fine. We all have our own opinions...so...good for you.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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LoneInTheDark
11-10-2006, 05:38 AM
Yes, I am a gal, feel better? Historically men dump their wives in their 40's and go latch onto a young gal. You know the ones with perky boobs, and the IQ of a dead trout.

During the dialogue between Sam and Williams, Sam says Enrica was just a few years older than his daughter. So whoever implied that he had a connection to her in lieu of his daughter may have the right idea. Because no physical contact is made in xbox1, that I have seen. Which would explain his reaction to her death at the end. There's a lot of guilt there. Sam's job took him away from Sarah, basically he wasn't there for her. He didn't really protect her, just like Enrica. Gosh, his heart is so tattered.

Jackie Fiest
11-10-2006, 09:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LoneInTheDark:
So whoever implied that he had a connection to her in lieu of his daughter may have the right idea. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
That was me actually and I will tell you what...I see Enrica #2 happening with this Elena woman!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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pretty_ugly
11-10-2006, 10:32 AM
I was kinda disappointed that you didn't get the option to kill Enrica yourself. She never showed any remorse for her part in the JBA, and I was personally a bit mad at her about the whole nuclear bomb test on the cruise ship thing. I was kinda looking forward to shooting her really, maybe I have problems, haha.

Anyways, I thought Sam's thing at the end was a bit over the top. It looks like he's losing it.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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GIANTS3D
11-10-2006, 03:43 PM
NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DEFUSE ALL OF THEM

GIANTS3D
11-10-2006, 03:43 PM
NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DEFUSE ALL OF THEM

XyonicS
11-10-2006, 03:54 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pretty_ugly:
I was kinda disappointed that you didn't get the option to kill Enrica yourself. She never showed any remorse for her part in the JBA, and I was personally a bit mad at her about the whole nuclear bomb test on the cruise ship thing. I was kinda looking forward to shooting her really, maybe I have problems, haha.

Anyways, I thought Sam's thing at the end was a bit over the top. It looks like he's losing it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I got the impression from the start of the game that he has lost it. The guy is a total wreck. He blames himself for not being more of a father and feels that if he had been there more for Sarah things may have been different.

He took the most dangerous assignment he could to punnish himself even more and then found a girl that is very lost (in his eyes).

So he forms a bond and even it isn't fully reciprocated by Enrica (in the same way), to Sam that doesn't really matter.

Then she dies, so once again he in plunged into all the guilt and remorse so he snaps.

Just look at his life. Always trying to do the right thing by his country, no matter how tough someone is there is a limit to how much they can carry and his load just became too much.

Regardless of the training and conditioning Sam Fisher is only human. Any human under constant torture will break.

The ending is inline with his tattered life and he displays the soul ripped human well.

Williams is, I very much hope, a target in the next game, along with any other members of Third Echelon or NSA that gets in Sams way. Although the only one who may be able to help Sam get back under control is Lambert, if he is even in the next game. I guess we will have to wait and see http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Oh yeah this is all from a guy in his 40's that is very happily married to a woman that is older and has been for over 20 years, HEHE, some of us are normal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Jackie Fiest
11-10-2006, 04:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by XyonicS:
HEHE, some of us are normal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif Boy that must suck...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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XyonicS
11-10-2006, 04:07 PM
Here try this.

You get 10 minutes at the start so make your way quickly to the first bomb (down the vent is the quickest way directly from the captains level to the room in less than 2 minutes), then after you defuse that your time (even if you had 8 minutes left) is cut to 3 minutes for the remaining 3 bombs.

You only get 30 seconds to defuse each bomb when you start the process. Simply move to each wire and wait a second or 2 and you will feel it vibrate if it's the one you have to cut.

If the wire your on doesn't vibrate then go to the next and count to 2 (slowly), if it doesn't vibrate move to the next, count to 2. If it vibrates hit A, move to the next if it doesn't vibrate after the 2 count, move to the next and so on.

You should be able to on average get through each bomb within 20 seconds and then move onto the next one. All up you should have them all done with a fair amount of time to spare.

The key here to eliminate the cameras before this sequence so they will not be a bother when you come to do the defuse. Steam will eliminate 2 of them and the other can be done without even going near the camera. The 3 guys are just zap fodder.
Easy and quick. Just hit this room before you go to the red box that is the captain. Will save you time later and also lets you scout out the room and eliminate the cameras. Also the access from the ladder via the vent is dark so no problems being spotted by either camera or guard<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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MadamTampini
11-10-2006, 04:08 PM
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XyonicS
11-10-2006, 04:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TFS_Jackie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by XyonicS:
HEHE, some of us are normal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif Boy that must suck... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

HAHAHAHAH! I should have said Gamer normal not human normal http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Jackie Fiest
11-10-2006, 04:34 PM
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pretty_ugly
11-10-2006, 08:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by XyonicS:
Williams is, I very much hope, a target in the next game, along with any other members of Third Echelon or NSA that gets in Sams way. Although the only one who may be able to help Sam get back under control is Lambert, if he is even in the next game. I guess we will have to wait and see http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be so cool if you got to go after the NSA! You could take out the new splinter cells as they tried to go on missions, and snipe Williams in his office like that scene in the Bourne Supremacy. Except, giving the choise, I'd would probably blow William's head off instead of tell him to back off.

Jackie, I just noticed your sig. I'm glad you made it.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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joelblanchette
11-10-2006, 08:38 PM
Honestly, I thought Sam's "attachment" to Enrica in the last level somewhat bizarre. Unless there are additional cut-scenes not included in the Gamecube version, there is no logical progression in their relationship. There's no reason for his vehement retort to Williams to "leave her out of this." Or for Williams to single her out as a target, for that matter. There certainly isn't anything in the story that would cause the player to be sympathetic towards her. Come to think of it, if you let the cruise ship get blown up, her and Sam are the most murderous members of the JBA!

Jackie Fiest
11-10-2006, 08:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pretty_ugly:
Jackie, I just noticed your sig. I'm glad you made it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks.

BTW If you play Essentials you do go into the actual NSA building. It's a zero fatality mission, like the CIA.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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