View Full Version : do you think my behavoiour will get me banned from here
03-18-2009, 07:58 AM
i just got permabanned from a physics forums for posting gravity could be matter inflation
and i was thinking this could happen here any time
for example my view on yavhe being the bad guy and lucifer the good guy might offend others to the extend of get me banned
and i dont follow most people here who post on avitation or games, i use this as a kind of blog to socialice
i would get very upset if i got banned from here
do you think freedom of speech is granted here as long as you dont go on personal attack? so i can stay here for at least another 7 years
i ask this because ive been banned from most forums i joined,including this one for posting ot(before the ot section), i think some people gets mad at me just for my being odd, i really dont know why i get banned from forums so easily
03-18-2009, 08:25 AM
Personally Raiid, I wouldnt ban you from here, however, no offence, there is a reason why you are getting banned from other places, unique as your ideas are.
03-18-2009, 08:48 AM
Well...this song just crossed my mind after reading your post.
03-18-2009, 09:13 AM
No way raaid. We are too totally amazed and amused by your posts to do what those science Nazi's did to you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
attack the science Nazi's! Defend raaid! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
03-18-2009, 09:23 AM
wel uflake you maybe right, people look down on crazy people
but for myself i see insanity as a blessing
as someone said once in this forum with better words im amazed by the worlds i create
and im quite convinced if i get completely sane it will be my end like don quijote
i see madness as a way to transform a world you dont like(for better or worse i always try for better), you cant change the world but you can change the way you see it
but i see this as discrimination, what would you think if you got discriminated for being short, in amsterdam they did this:
im 6 feet tall and in many places in amsterdam i had to pee making an arc becuase the toilet was so high, if i were 5 feet tall i just couldnt pee there
this is obviously a disguised discrimination against short people,(racism) just as they discriminate crazy people like me in most forums(more racism towards the unfitted like me)
03-18-2009, 09:51 AM
While riding in a car as a kid, I imagined that instead of the car traveling over the ground, the car was stationary and that the Earth spun beneath the wheels, changing direction as the car turned or undulating up and down as hills and valleys conformed themselves to the vehicle.
Now, while I could temporarily change my perspective, I would not presume that this perspective was valid, nor try to convince others that it was true.
You have a great imagination raaaid, but just because you can wrap your brain around these different views doesn't mean they are valid or you've discovered some truth hidden by nefarious forces.
Simplistic example: If I were to imagine that the Sun revolves around the Earth and I entered a physics forum to convince others of my "understanding", I would expect to get banned, or at least dismissed.
Especially if I thought lizard cats were exerting mind control on hamsters to influence my personal journey of enlightenment.
This paranoia and "thinking out loud" when typing would severely test any serious forum or discussion, more so on the internet where it's much easier to dismiss someone by banning.
IMHO, you were right to be banned since the discussion in the other thread showed how quickly the inflation idea broke down as unworkable. To take that to a serious panel is just asking for trouble.
I don't think you'll get banned from here, I hope you stick around. However, you ought to buckle down and study if you really want to learn about physics.
03-18-2009, 09:51 AM
Raaaid, you (like many of us who have been here a long time) bring something to this forum that makes it a part of what it is. You do have many unique ideas that I am entertained by, to say the least. Unless you come in here specifically to make trouble, then I wouldn't worry so much.
03-18-2009, 10:17 AM
actually i have two different explanations for gravity, its like a mental exercise i have done since a kid , explaining why of things myself
one is inflation, the other is that the electron makes an ellipse and the opening half of the ellipse pulls less than the inwards half of the elipse
i just hypothesize and i should be free to discuss that, the proplem is that in all forums i know of( of physics) its forbidden to make new theories, had einstein benn born today and he made a new theory he would be banned from every physics forum he went to
that points to our occidental values which i withhold strongly(as an example believing in rehabilitation of crimianls not vengeance or freedom of speech) being corrupted
03-18-2009, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by raaaid:
i just hypothesize and i should be free to discuss that...
There is no law preventing you from discussing that. There is a law, however, preventing you from breaking into someone's house and forcing them to listen to you. The same concept extends to a forum. IF YOU DON'T OWN/RUN THE FORUM YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT.
I'll say it again, if you want to say anything you want on a forum, start your own. If no one joins you it's because no one wants to listen to you. It's a win-win for everyone.
03-18-2009, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by raaaid:
actually i have two different explanations for gravity, its...
NOOOO now look, you`ve encouraged him! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
03-18-2009, 10:53 AM
Just keep sticking to the policies and TOU of the board and you'll have no problems. Trust us, we will let you know if you step over the line...
03-18-2009, 11:09 AM
You assume that Einstein was embraced with open arms, he was not.
However, he backed up his ideas with hard math and provable results.
If you get the History channel, there's a special called "Einstein" that I recommend.
You yourself admitted that the inflation idea mathematically breaks down very quickly, yet you get defensive because others won't accept it. It's not a "new" theory if it doesn't work.
Einstein published papers for review by his peers, leaving his butt hanging in the wind for years before being accepted. This is far different from someone presenting ideas that they themselves can't make work.
It's similar to a passenger on an aircraft with no mechanical background telling me how to fix a T-56 turboprop engine. They may be convinced they are right, drawn pictures of engines, imagined it had 4 fuel nozzles (it has six) and other things, but there's no reason I should give them any consideration during my diagnosis or repair.
With your inflation and electron ellipse ideas, it's clear your trying to use Newtonian physics to reverse engineer relativistic theories.
You're trying to explain why rockets work by explaining how to pedal a bicycle.
Einstein provides a different perspective than what we usually experience, yet it doesn't seem to invalidate that normal experience, sort of like basic math and basic algebra.
You can "explain" things to yourself all you want. But gibberish is gibberish. While you have freedom of speech, no one is required to listen.
03-18-2009, 11:38 AM
Well, you haven't yet, so...
Anyway these forums are not better or more free than others. It really depends on the topic you choose. The real good thing about bans here is that no one -no matter if he's right or wrong- is banned without advice. When a mod wants you to stop doing something -I won't enter to judge if he's really entitled by the TOU to do so- he normally tells you some way, which at least won't have you kicked out without knowing why.
03-18-2009, 01:21 PM
The future of discovery has always been from those who dared go against the grain. None of the breakthrough theories that we now accept as fact/law came from people who were well liked or received at the time.
03-18-2009, 02:30 PM
raaaid, I'm fan of your topics. sadly that my English is very poor and I can't share my opinions with you.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif but I don't know nothing about physic.
I beat that you are the only physic in the world who can create a real Heinkel Lerch featuring performance far better then Oleg's IL2 one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif