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KingSilvaback90
09-14-2007, 01:28 PM
As you all may or may not know. I'm a small time fan of Halo and a PS3 fanboy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif crazy aint I. Any way if Haze does become an epic series and they make a video or a mini game that had the Haze's Nectar high Troopers and Halos Spartian soldier cyborgs who do you think would win and why? I'm pulling for the Troopers.

Kida409
09-25-2007, 01:37 PM
depleated uranium rounds...need i say more? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif spartans lose http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Toad17
09-25-2007, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by KingSilvaback90:
As you all may or may not know. I'm a small time fan of Halo and a PS3 fanboy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif crazy aint I. Any way if Haze does become an epic series and they make a video or a mini game that had the Haze's Nectar high Troopers and Halos Spartian soldier cyborgs who do you think would win and why? I'm pulling for the Troopers.

Nobody can deny that you're enthusiastic ^_^;; but I'm guessing that zgubilici is going to be a bit upset with you starting another new thread like this. Tone it down? Just a little

deded999
09-25-2007, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Kida409:
depleated uranium rounds...need i say more? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif spartans lose http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

First the depleted uranium rounds, then they'd call them pu**ies. Spartans lose.

Then the apparently dead Promise Hand rebels frag the troopers. troopers lose, rebels win. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Wii4Mii
09-26-2007, 07:33 PM
It could be because I don't know much about the Troopers, but I think the SPARTANS would win. They've been trained far longer than troopers, they've had augmentations that give them abilities better than Nectar could ever give, and these abilities are permanent, whereas the boost Nectar gives you is only temporary. Plus SPARTANS' shielding has become stronger wiht the MJOLNIR Mark VI upgrade. They can wield very powerful weapons like the Missile Pod and SPARTAN Laser. In the end, I think the SPARTAN's would win. Granted Nectar gives you enhanced accuracy, speed, strength, sight, and reflexes, but the augmentations SPARTANs have gotten is overall better.

deded999
09-27-2007, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by Wii4Mii:
SPARTANS' shielding has become stronger wiht the MJOLNIR Mark VI upgrade.

See, that's one reason I don't like Halo - it sounds like B-grade fan-fiction... hey-ho.

Wii4Mii
09-27-2007, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by deded999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wii4Mii:
SPARTANS' shielding has become stronger wiht the MJOLNIR Mark VI upgrade.

See, that's one reason I don't like Halo - it sounds like B-grade fan-fiction... hey-ho. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Lol. So, is there anything wrong with my post that you'd like to point out? I'm not afraid to be proven wrong.

Rasomaso
09-27-2007, 06:13 AM
LOL spartans would lose, 'cause they don't know how to use guns.

Mutton-Chops
09-27-2007, 06:14 AM
I'm all for Haze, but if a bunch of regular human Rebels could beat the Mantel Troopers then Spartans would mop the floor with them.
I was the first one to vote Spartan. But who knows, once I've actually played as a Mantel Trooper I might revise that theory.

deded999
09-27-2007, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by Wii4Mii:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by deded999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wii4Mii:
SPARTANS' shielding has become stronger wiht the MJOLNIR Mark VI upgrade.

See, that's one reason I don't like Halo - it sounds like B-grade fan-fiction... hey-ho. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Lol. So, is there anything wrong with my post that you'd like to point out? I'm not afraid to be proven wrong. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, no criticism of your post at all.

Wii4Mii
09-27-2007, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by deded999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wii4Mii:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by deded999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wii4Mii:
SPARTANS' shielding has become stronger wiht the MJOLNIR Mark VI upgrade.

See, that's one reason I don't like Halo - it sounds like B-grade fan-fiction... hey-ho. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Lol. So, is there anything wrong with my post that you'd like to point out? I'm not afraid to be proven wrong. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, no criticism of your post at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Anyway, how do you get a signature and avatar? I can't figure it out, I'm such a n00b. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

EDITE: I found out how to make a signature.

Wii4Mii
09-27-2007, 02:17 PM
I found something interesting while watching Developer Diary 2. The Troopers' Melee Blast is much stronger than Master Chief's melee attack. When Master Chief strikes humans the hit sends them forward about two feet. The Melee Blast sent them about twenty feet or more, and fast.

So that means that while Nectar is administered, the Troopers are stronger. While not administered it's probably equal.

Plus they'll be able to find them no matter what, they can evade grenades, and the melee blast will send them flying. It seems that the advantages SPARTANS have are defeated by Troopers.

Also while watching gameplay I found out that the BSW-72 Assault Rifle holds more rounds as compared to the MA5C assault rifle holding only 32, and the BSW-72 has a higher rate of fire as compared to the MA5C. So in terms of the basic weapon the Haze troopers win.

deded999
09-27-2007, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Wii4Mii:
Anyway, how do you get a signature and avatar? I can't figure it out, I'm such a n00b. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

EDITE: I found out how to make a signature.

Same thing for an avatar - Go>Personal Zone> Profile>View/Edit Complete Profile, scroll down to Avatar/Picture URL, then click Edit. Then enter the URL for your hosted 64x64 avatar.

Wii4Mii
09-27-2007, 07:32 PM
Thanks, deded.

After doing further research, I have to say that Halo 3 has a lot of new weapons. For example, the gravity hammer, which is this huge-*** hammer. They have the SPARTAN Laser, which is a very strong laser. They can pull off turrets from their mounts on vehicles, allowing them to use missiles, large machine guns, and plasma turrets. They have spike grenades, which launch powerful spikes. They have flame grenades as well.

I think the most effective of these weapons is the spike grenades, because if the Trooper is stupid enough the spikes can be daggers. The trooper sees the grenade falls through the ripples, and try to evade. When it launches they turn their back to run like hell, and the spike hits their Nectar supply, causing the helmets to overflow with Nectar, drowning them.

I actually think that it's kind of a tough battle. When it comes down to abilities, the Troopers pwn the SPARTANS in every aspect. But weaponry...that's a whole nother story. I guess when we play the game and more weapons are revealed we'll get a better idea.

deded999
09-28-2007, 03:26 AM
To quote Apocalypse Now!:

"A spear."

lol. What I'm trying to say is that if you get hit by a shotgun, burned by a megawatt laser or hit with a primitive spear, you're just as dead.

mornelithe
09-28-2007, 06:33 AM
Yeah...but do the Spartans have a skin coat? I think not.

Wii4Mii
09-28-2007, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by mornelithe:
Yeah...but do the Spartans have a skin coat? I think not. Do you mean the coat the dictator of the Promise Hand wears? Yeah...that's the Promise Hand, not the troopers.

They can kill SPARTANS too anyway.

Wii4Mii
09-28-2007, 01:36 PM
Okay, here's my input. I think it would be a very close match. The SPARTANS and Mantel Troopers seem to share the same amount of muscle prowess, speed, sight, etc when fighting under normal conditions. SPARTANS have these abilities and these abilities only. Mantel Troopers can use Nectar to increase their strength. They can use these abilities to see grenades and dodge them, move much faster, see their enemies no matter where they are, and hit them hard enough to send them flying. FLYING. So in terms of abilities, the Troopers win.

However, then it comes to weapons. They both have grenades, assault rifles, pistols, shotguns, rocket launchers, sniper rifles, and vehicle mounted MG's. It's possible the Haze troopers are gonna have flamethrowers and miniguns. If they were, the minigun would equal the machine gun, plus it wouldn't slow down the Mantel troopers as much as the machine gun support weapon would. However, the UNSC also feature Missile Pod (basically an improved rocket launcher), Battle Rifle (has a scope and fires short bursts of three shots), SMG's (dual-wieldable one-hand submachineguns), and SPARTAN laser (fires a stream of red, destructive energy. Must be charged.) Thing is, the wide variety of weaponry the UNSC has is only useful if you select your weapons wisely, seeing as they can only wield two weapons.

EDIT: I just found out about the depleted uranium rounds. So once the shields are gone, one shot will give radiation poisoning.

In the end, I think the Troopers would win. Their combat capabilities and weapons are all-around better in any situation.

Kida409
10-01-2007, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Wii4Mii:
I found something interesting while watching Developer Diary 2. The Troopers' Melee Blast is much stronger than Master Chief's melee attack. When Master Chief strikes humans the hit sends them forward about two feet. The Melee Blast sent them about twenty feet or more, and fast.

So that means that while Nectar is administered, the Troopers are stronger. While not administered it's probably equal.

Plus they'll be able to find them no matter what, they can evade grenades, and the melee blast will send them flying. It seems that the advantages SPARTANS have are defeated by Troopers.

Also while watching gameplay I found out that the BSW-72 Assault Rifle holds more rounds as compared to the MA5C assault rifle holding only 32, and the BSW-72 has a higher rate of fire as compared to the MA5C. So in terms of the basic weapon the Haze troopers win.
Nectar effectivly makes master chief and his fellow spartans redundent. lol, better let him down gentely.

KingSilvaback90
10-02-2007, 01:25 PM
DDDDDUUUUDDDDEEEE I did not expect feed back like this well in a land slide finish Troopers win.... of course were on thier fourum i bet if I put this in a Halo fourm the Troopers would not only lose but I would get flamed more than if I feel into a volcano. I agree it would be a close match but I still think the Troopers would win. When on nacter they could probly out run the sparten laser or missle pod. Plus the graphics engine make the spartains look like they came straight out od a Mickey D's box the Troopers look a lot cooler. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

MauserMilitary
10-02-2007, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by KingSilvaback90:
Plus the graphics engine make the spartains look like they came straight out od a Mickey D's box the Troopers look a lot cooler. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif
I always thought that Master Chief looked like a cross between Robocop, a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle, and some dude wearing a motocross helmet. I actually like those things to a degree separately, but not so much combined.

The Mantel Troopers definitely win the beauty contest. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ladon68
10-02-2007, 05:38 PM
...motocross helmet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

anyways yea i argee...with everyone lol no use explaining anything