A message to Mr Yves Guillemot re GRAW for PC delay

[JFSebastian]

No matter how much Bill Gates pays you to try to drag us all over to the Xbox platform, by pulling stunts like this one and GR2, I for one will not be going.

SO EITHER RELEASE PC GAMES OR FORGET MY MONEY.


JFSebastian

[D.i.C.e]

your not the only one thinking this way
JFSebastian

and if this is the case that SUCKS!

[deosl]

Are you aware that grin asked for more time? What if ubi soft said no and we would get an un-finnished game? Raven Shield anyone?

[D.i.C.e]

GRIN asked for more time? yeah i think NOT
UBI needs more time to release the PC and Xbox360 games all togther and you never know...
Bill gates has More $$$ to buy out UBI EAgames and yahoo all at the same time and not even dent the bank account. lol so you never know what bill gates and uBi are trying these days
from what i remember... a while back bill gates said he wanted to take the PC gamers to his new toy the So called Xbox... wich is just a little box that sucks... i will never play with a **** joy stick.

[deosl]

I'm just repeating what ubi_razz said... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

[sneaky_sniper79]

UBI_razz was referring to the xbox360 team requesting more development time, not Grin.

[deosl]

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3291043913...361008563#8361008563 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3291043913/m/3731030563/r/8361008563#8361008563)

quote:
- No GR2 for PC. How can GR:AW not be ready for PC….?

GR2 PC was not developed by GRIN and they have requested more time, so it's not ready.
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I read it as he is refering to GRIN.

[UbiRazz]

All development teams have requested more time, GRIN included.

[Prozac360]

If its not out in feburary ... forget it im done.


I wont be purchasing another ubi game ever.

Their whole line up has taken a turn down hill IMO and not one of their other games intreast me other then GRAW

[AlphaDelta219]

that extra time better be used to make the game better. not more idiot friendly

[BSR_RuGGBuTT]

Originally posted by AlphaDelta219:
that extra time better be used to make the game better. not more idiot friendly
Yep, and I'm counting the extra time for a GR/PC release from the last GR release. I figure that's about 4 years.

[Fury23]

It seems to me it has been like 10 years since GR1 came out. I haven't enjoyed any other multiplayer game (considering all game genres) like i did enjoy playing GR1. I'm done with the whole FPS genre if GR:AW doesn't deliver the GR1 gameplay, seriously.

[mrnygiants]

I'm with FURY on this one. I'm still mad as He!! that they lied to us about GR2, and now are lying again. I would rather release the game, and then come out with a patch 2 months later.

[UbiRazz]

I would rather release the game, and then come out with a patch 2 months later.
You'd prefer Ubisoft to rush out something that's buggy, unfinished, and a pain to play, then send out a patch a full two months later to try and get the game into a state worth playing?

Nope, don't believe you.

[D.i.C.e]

it would help to know why this time was asked for and what area is it that Grin is working on in the game that realy needs the tweeking i meen as White knight said b4 the game was finshed and so did UBI staff lets get some details please. thanks

[MiRaGe..]

the past lot of games UBI have released that have been first set for a xmas release have been pushed back to feb or march release. So i wouldnt take that feb release as the final, unless gheybox mess's up.

[mrnygiants]

Originally posted by UbiRazz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I would rather release the game, and then come out with a patch 2 months later.
You'd prefer Ubisoft to rush out something that's buggy, unfinished, and a pain to play, then send out a patch a full two months later to try and get the game into a state worth playing?

Nope, don't believe you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well believe it. I would welcome a patch every month if possible, atleast that way, if there are cheats, i know they will fix them every month. When GR came out, a patch came out almost right away, hell, I remember 1.4, so patches are ok, just bring the dam game out.

[BSR_RuGGBuTT]

Everything UBI has released since GR was buggy anyhow. What's the diff?

[buddhiraja]

Sorry to ask this question but what is VBS1 and how is it ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif

[crtChunk72]

Originally posted by mrnygiants:
Well believe it. I would welcome a patch every month if possible, atleast that way, if there are cheats, i know they will fix them every month. When GR came out, a patch came out almost right away, hell, I remember 1.4, so patches are ok, just bring the dam game out.

I have to agree with Razz on this one... the majority of gamers would receive a buggy game as well as they receive news of a delay... with sworn devotion never to buy another UBI product again. At least with the delay, if they finally do release a great game, chances are people will lift their bans and buy the game. But, if they release carp, personal bans will be fortified...

[Delta_Hoot]

Originally posted by buddhiraja:
Sorry to ask this question but what is VBS1 and how is it ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif


VSB1 is serious professional military sim (software) used by many military forces, including the USMC. It makes any tactical game out there look like Gameboy.

There are many add-ons and Mods as well. You can purchase a copy and play online, there's a decent community of tactical players playing VSB-1 Mods. GR.net has a dedicated forum discussing this military sim.

The VSB1 official website:

VSB1 Military sim (http://www.virtualbattlespace.com/)

[mrnygiants]

Originally posted by crtChunk72:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mrnygiants:
Well believe it. I would welcome a patch every month if possible, atleast that way, if there are cheats, i know they will fix them every month. When GR came out, a patch came out almost right away, hell, I remember 1.4, so patches are ok, just bring the dam game out.

I have to agree with Razz on this one... the majority of gamers would receive a buggy game as well as they receive news of a delay... with sworn devotion never to buy another UBI product again. At least with the delay, if they finally do release a great game, chances are people will lift their bans and buy the game. But, if they release carp, personal bans will be fortified... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Again, I disagree here. People like my self would be happy, and only happy if there were bugs, and then they fixed it. So would I like to be playing GR3 right now, even though it's buggy, YES IF THEY WERE TO COME OUT WITH PATCHES.

The difference is, they dont feel like making any patches, or putting any more money into a game you already bought, so they can be hard at work on the next game to get more of your money. That is why they are waiting 2 months.

So Razz, release it now, aslong as they promise to come out with fixes/patches, but you and I both know, that will not happen.

[redmonster85]

Originally posted by deosl:
Are you aware that grin asked for more time? What if ubi soft said no and we would get an un-finnished game? Raven Shield anyone?

have you read PC GAMERS mag a couple,of months agop? bill gates and microsoft are trying to do with PC gameing what they did with the console games. although right off the top of my head i cant rember what it is they ar eplaning on pumping alot of money in PC gameing deloment with the release of there next windows package. (sometime in late 06-early07 if i rember right)



off to find the mag to be 100 % sure on my info

found the mahPC gamers NOV 2005
micrsof is gonna start truley mareting the PC as a gimeing rig ,paying to get premium self space that ahs been reserved for console games only,haveing com markting programws with publishers to get on micrsoft self space and useing the build up of the launch of micrsoftr vist to really poump the pc as a gameing rig

[buddhiraja]

Originally posted by Delta_Hoot:
VSB1 is serious professional military sim (software) used by many military forces, including the USMC. It makes any tactical game out there look like Gameboy.

There are many add-ons and Mods as well. You can purchase a copy and play online, there's a decent community of tactical players playing VSB-1 Mods. GR.net has a dedicated forum discussing this military sim.

The VSB1 official website:

VSB1 Military sim (http://www.virtualbattlespace.com/)

Thanks for the reply. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[D.i.C.e]

ohh my i think geting VSB1 for 50 bucks,
thanks for the link fellas,,...

[D.i.C.e]

im sorry the addons are 50 bucks.. the program/sim is $150.. but looking at the Screen shots and other addons this looks like one wicked sim thats worth the 150.

[Delta_Hoot]

You don't need the add-ons, the Mods are way better and it's free.

And BTW, you can get the full-retail version VSB1 for under 80 bucks at E-Bay (ive even seen it for $50), not a bad deal...

[digger69]

Febuary 06!

That's 4 years and 4 months since the origonal PC release... A raw deal in anyones language http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

[DNL_OceanHippie]

Originally posted by UbiRazz:

You'd prefer Ubisoft to rush out something that's buggy, unfinished, and a pain to play, then send out a patch a full two months later to try and get the game into a state worth playing?

Nope, don't believe you.

Well, I DID buy RVS...so..um...yeah.

[Yen Lo]

Frankly I think hes looking at his organization and thinking not even Gawd can fix this mess, Ill bail at 100 million!!! LOL.

[AEG_GHOSTDRAGON]

So where do you get this VSB1? Explain what you should get from it. Is it realistic?

[WhiteKnight77]

VBS1 (http://www.virtualbattlefieldsystems.com/) is a military simulator actually used by armed forces around the world including the US Marines.

If you want it, get ready to pay a pretty penny for it though, it is not cheap.

[AEG_GHOSTDRAGON]

Yes but on the site there are a whole bunch of CDs, which one would you recommend buying? Say that is, which one is like Ghost Recon, cause it looks like they have other forms of simulation, like air, artil, etc.

[WhiteKnight77]

Without the core VBS1 CD at $150, the rest will not work. The mission packs are $50 each.

[Delta_Hoot]

You can get them cheap at E-Bay, though.

I've seen the original VSB-1 Cd with the USB key for under 70 bucks.

[p0rN-X-]

Originally posted by UbiRazz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I would rather release the game, and then come out with a patch 2 months later.
You'd prefer Ubisoft to rush out something that's buggy, unfinished, and a pain to play, then send out a patch a full two months later to try and get the game into a state worth playing?

Nope, don't believe you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah actually I would like to play a buggy game like BF2 to actually have something to play... Cause with UBI/RSE and there ****ty track record i dont believe a **** thing they say until there is something loaded on my computer to play. They did a pretty good job patching the first GR1 and no matter how much time they take to produce GR:AW it will need to be patched. The best way to create a product that everyone wants to play is for them to give the public a chance to test it. We "the true gamers" will be the only ones that can show UBI there mistakes and help with what needs to be fixed.

Let EA be a lesson to you guys, cause it took 3 patches in 5 months and they still dont have BF2 playing the way it should. Yet they have Thousands and thousands of people online day in and day out.

So give me a buggy game, least then ill know that they still know how to at least make **** for PC.

[AlphaDelta219]

Isn't Bohemia working on OFP2?

[spm1138]

They no longer own the name "Operation Flashpoint", but yes they're working on "Game2".

[AlphaDelta219]

who owns the name OFP now?

[spm1138]

Codemasters who have said they will produce their own "Operation Flashpoint 2" (just to really confuse you).