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gamebro
04-01-2005, 10:27 AM

Kareeah_Indaga
04-01-2005, 11:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gamebro:
The quality of the graphics are not the issue, the issue is how the models\graphics look too exotic and different. This game looks almost like GUILD WARS, and nothing like heroes. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The difference in graphics between Heroes 5 and the previous editions doesn’t seem to be any bigger than the difference between H2’s and H3’s. I wouldn’t be too concerned if I were you. Graphics have never been the heart and soul of the series.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gamebro:
And, WHAT happened to the original team members who are responsible for making heroes (new world computing)?
Is Rob King still making the fantastic music?
How about the other great developers? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Christian Vanover (sp?) went to Microsoft last I heard, and JVC went to NCSoft. I’m not sure where everyone else went, but I believe they’ve all found employment elsewhere. After the whole fiasco with 3DO I don’t blame them for not holding out for Ubi and Heroes V, even if it does mean we won’t be seeing their influence in the series. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Morannon1
04-01-2005, 11:01 AM
haha you hardcore fans crack me up all the time. Ofcourse I love it, it looks great.

loonyjoe
04-01-2005, 11:47 AM
have you seen the game? have you played it?
so how is it you're dissapointed with it?
i suggest waiting...
...and i belive the graphics isn't that importaint...
...and i don't care, who makes the game...

gamebro
04-01-2005, 11:55 AM
The graphics are not important, but this overly colorfull\exotic world style has been done OVER AND OVER AND OVER. I am sick of it.

I loved heroes 1.
Then heroes 2 blew me away!
Heroes 3 was disspointing at first, because it was very different.
Heroes 4 really dissapointed me as it was even further changed.

I still enjoyed 3 and 4 very much!

Heroes 5 is so radically changed in the looks alone, that I can't help but voice my opinion. I would rather see HOMM 5 in 2d then this.

Ok, fans of H5, honestly tell me that you think the angel model is cool... COME ON! I prefere the powerfully muscled angel of old, to this er, zealot looking thing.

The only model I like is the nightmare, everything else is recycled guild wars garbage.

loonyjoe
04-01-2005, 12:17 PM
ok, i admit i can't say i like this angel or whatever this bluish thing is...but the hero(if that's a hero) didn't look so bad...i'll tell you more when i'll see an elven archer and a vampire...

Quinea_Pig_King
04-01-2005, 12:18 PM
Hell yes! I completely disagree with the woesayers, those who claim to represent the whole community of Heroes-fans. I say this to all of you: Why do you babble about 3d being bad? Why do you claim, just on these screenshots, that Heroes 5 sucks? And why, for the love of Pete, do you continue making useless topics about it?

gamebro
04-01-2005, 12:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by loonyjoe:
ok, i admit i can't say i like this angel or whatever this bluish thing is...but the hero(if that's a hero) didn't look so bad...i'll tell you more when i'll see an elven archer and a vampire... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL! yeah, I am really worried, if the team thinks the angel is an awesome model, just what the hell are they going to do to other past favorite models.

I am affraid to see the archer, or vampire after seeing what I have seen.

Lord_EB
04-01-2005, 12:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gamebro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by loonyjoe:
ok, i admit i can't say i like this angel or whatever this bluish thing is...but the hero(if that's a hero) didn't look so bad...i'll tell you more when i'll see an elven archer and a vampire... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL! yeah, I am really worried, if the team thinks the angel is an awesome model, just what the hell are they going to do to other past favorite models.

I am affraid to see the archer, or vampire after seeing what I have seen. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Any changes on the Heroes series will depend on Ubisoft and their group of developers. Whatever hapens will be welcomed by me. As far as the game is concerned, if the game does what it did for me since 1995, then I'm okay with the exotic looks.

El Boricua

Lord_EB
04-01-2005, 12:41 PM
Does anyone know how I can get an avatar with my handle? I checked onthe preferences and nothing was there.

El Boricua

Aseved
04-01-2005, 01:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Ok, fans of H5, honestly tell me that you think the angel model is cool... COME ON! I prefere the powerfully muscled angel of old, to this er, zealot looking thing.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm no ashamed at all to say this (H5) Angel model (besides perhaps the sword) is the best so far. It is much more mystical than warrior (and it still keeps a powerful look), wich is IMHO, much more adequate for a creature such as the Angel.

Happy?

Dragon Angel Aseved

Mike447a
04-01-2005, 03:27 PM
Do you like the heroes 5 look?


MY answer is :


yes ! yes ! yessssssssssss ! yessssssssssssssss!
your opinion regards ONLY you http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif so far from us !

MT_Silver
04-01-2005, 03:44 PM
So far I think it looks really good Graphics-wise. I especially like the new look of the Angels http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

The Wise Man says:
"What goes up, must come down."

Medusa-
04-02-2005, 12:19 AM
It's silly to say that the game sucks when you've only seen few screenies.
And the old team is shattered all over the world now, I guess. So you shouldn't judge the game already.

Personally I like what I've seen and heard already, but my final decision will be after I play the game.

Lith_Maethor
04-02-2005, 09:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aseved:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Ok, fans of H5, honestly tell me that you think the angel model is cool... COME ON! I prefere the powerfully muscled angel of old, to this er, zealot looking thing.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm no ashamed at all to say this (H5) Angel model (besides perhaps the sword) is the best so far. It is much more mystical than warrior (and it still keeps a powerful look), wich is IMHO, much more adequate for a creature such as the Angel.

Happy?

_Dragon Angel Aseved_ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

what he said... the whole hood thing working too... and i like the sword ...that thing passes as an angel more than the guy from the toga frat party that set the drinks on fire on his sword

(on that note, for its time, HoMM3 had good graphics)

ShPhoenix
04-02-2005, 10:06 AM
I for one like the new graphics of HOMM5. Like other I was disapointed from the change from Heroes 2 to Heroes 3. While I didn't mind the more realistic style of graphics, I far prefer the more fantasy style look that the original games had.

And the Angel has looked great since I first saw the concept art for it, along with most of the other creatures. Now as long as they don't mess up the Phoenix I'll probably be pretty happy with it graphically. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Salventus
04-02-2005, 01:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gamebro:
I loved heroes 1.
Then heroes 2 blew me away!
Heroes 3 was disspointing at first, because it was very different.
Heroes 4 really dissapointed me as it was even further changed.

I still enjoyed 3 and 4 very much!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well it seems that you have been in a downworl spiral of hating each consecutive game that came out!? It also mean that your a person that resists change. But then you say you still enjoy 3 and 4 very much? that's because you got use to playing them and it will probably be the same when you start palying Heroes 5!!

KingImp
04-02-2005, 11:32 PM
It's too early to tell being as we don't know what any of these screenshots are. Sure, many believe the 3rd screenshot of Balor and the Archangel to be an actual battle picture, but if it is, where are the rest of the armies and where are the numbers above the creatures to indicate how many.

Until we hear what each screenshot ACTUALLY are, there is no way to say if we like them or not. My gut tells me what we see in those 4 shots are not what we are going to be seeing during gameplay.

Enthendra
04-03-2005, 07:17 AM
I'm not bothered myself by the character models. I think the angel looks quite good, actually.

What unnerves me is the appearance of the map. To me it looks more like an adventure game than a strategy game. I also have a bad association with these graphics after playing Might and Magic IX. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif I know the screenshots aren't actual in-game pics, but they still worry me.

UndeadDontDie
04-03-2005, 10:45 AM
As long as those "screenshots" don't represent actual gameplay, they seem tolerable.
Its just the massive zoom and angle that scream "Terrible Interface" and which I can't ignore, I mean, how can you control anything looking at the game like that?
The screenies really disappointed me, I hope that new screenshots will refute this theory of encumberance that my mind is working on...

alohaman636
04-03-2005, 11:09 AM
once again undeaddontdie- i totally agree.

Svarog_HC
04-04-2005, 05:41 PM
Its very negative for the developers while in the process of still working on the game to hear such demotivating comments, such as "this game sucks totally" or "what have u done to heros". It may reflect bad for the game in the end. My appeal to all of you is to be more constructive when giving criticism, for the common good of a better-quality heroes game.

Voted: I like it.

REMA_BK
04-04-2005, 05:55 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif U said it.Enough of that bull....!Start thinking constructive.I like the shots and i think it will be a great game!!!

NECRO95
04-04-2005, 09:17 PM
I like the graphics, and I love the creature shots! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

gamebro
04-04-2005, 11:03 PM
At the risk of being an outcast, I once again cry out in disproval for this game's looks. THE ANGLE LOOKS FREAKING STUPID! If I am about the only person who thinks this then so be it. I prefer the realistic\cartoon\fantasy look of heroes 1\2 to this new game.
Too many games are taking on this hip, exotic look for thier games, and it sucks.

Before you know it, we will have monsters that are just piles of exotic colorful laundry that moves around!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif OH LOOK! A BIG SCARY BLOB OF FANCY CLOTHING ART IS ATTACKING ME! OH NO!!!!!!
Mystical nothing, the angel has lost is personality now. I don't want to swing my sword at robes.....

Nope, I'd take the look of heroes 2's creatures over this game any freaking day. I don't recognize this game anymore. The beauty of the past heroes was always a great part of the game, and now this game has just become another exotic art game like WoW. (only I'd prefer WoW art to this) How is that for demoralization to the team? CARE TO HEAR IT AGAIN?

I'd prefer WoW art to this.

Heroes V will be fun I think. UBI soft knows what they are doing giving this game to the developers they chose, so the gameplay should be fine. I personally, and I know this is just my opinion, but I personally don't like the art style of heroes V. If you people do, fine, I don't think less of you for liking it. I accept the fact, that I may indeed stand alone in my ideals.

So..... I will retract my comment earlier(from another thread) about not playing it ever and promise to give this game a chance when it releases. !BUT! You won't see me hanging around the fan forums, because I am setting my expectations to low.

Eldar Scrolls IV OBLIVION, now that is what heroes V should\could look like..... Even the minotuar is done right. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

(DISCLAIMER-- The opinions expressed by gamebro do not nessecarily represent those of UBI Soft, or it's affiliates.)

Menathor
04-04-2005, 11:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Eldar Scrolls IV OBLIVION, now that is what heroes V should\could look like..... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hey have you really been playing Heroes lately? Heroes IV is very much like the art and screenshot style of Heroes V. Even Heroes III was nowhere close to the serious look of Western type RPGs (like say Diablo). If it indeed had Elder Scrolls graphics it would be a radical change to the type of graphics you want. So you see it's becoming clear that you don't care if Heroes stays to it's roots but how you like the game to look like. Every opinion is indeed welcome but don't flame about it. I was also disappointed at first, because the screens didn't have the Heroes feel, and not for other reasons like you (I love anime), and only thing I did was one post about it. I didn't post it in every god**** thread I found.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>DISCLAIMER-- The opinions expressed by gamebro do not nessecarily represent those of UBI Soft, or it's affiliates. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Rofl of course they don't. They don't even represent a big part of the forum... And that's cause: YOU ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT ITS LOOKS!!! For the love of god! It's a STRATEGY game. Stop whining. I hope this will end
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and the next post will be constructive.

Tetsumonkai
04-05-2005, 03:07 AM
I dont have a problem with the 3d engine itself or the creatures. however they use to much colors in the world. should keep it more mystical. like foggy mountains, mist among the trees, lights from caves and so on.
its just to much candy colors.

lostn
04-05-2005, 03:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And, WHAT happened to the original team members who are responsible for making heroes (new world computing)?
Is Rob King still making the fantastic music?
How about the other great developers?
I DON'T CARE WHO OWNS WHAT RIGHTS, this is morally wrong to have another team lay their hands apon the developement of anothers great work. YOU GUYS did not make heroes, but it looks as if you sure can DESTROY it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They could just as well make it better than the original team did. Or at least better than Heroes 4 was, which doesn't sound too difficult.

You know it isn't realistic to get the original team back... and they might botch it further, further than they did Heroes4. Having the original team is no guarantee that it will be good, or better than previous installments.

Besides, I like what the new team has done with it. Dare I say it, the look is better than any Heroes game I've seen before, in both design, style, and technical detail.

If I had the choice of a new team making the next Heroes game, or no one ever makes it, I'd take the former easily. They might even do a better job, is shaping up to happen, if these screenshots are any indication.

As for "exotic graphics being done over and over", so has everything, including realistic graphics. So what's your point? One can argue that Heroes 2, 3, 4's style has been done to death, so how about something different? I prefer this style over the old. I don't want the graphics to look realistic. It should look outlandish. Realism in a fantasy game? I rest my case.

sakredfire
04-05-2005, 06:27 AM
I think the screenshots look great. IMO, exotic is better. The new archangel looks a lot more "supernatural" than the H3 one. The H3 model, though kind of cool at first, looks more like a roman legionary with wings than a celestial being. The exoticness of the heroes and creatures is what gives them personality. H3 looked much more exotic than h2, but was still in the spirit of the predecessors. Just compare the wizard's tower, and u'll see what I mean.

On a side note, wouldn't it be cool if instead of angels siding with humans, there was an entire city of angelic beings? i.e. Thrones, Seraphim, Cherubim, Watchers, etc.

Elor_Once_Dark
04-05-2005, 07:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lostn:
Besides, I like what the new team has done with it. Dare I say it, the look is better than any Heroes game I've seen before, in both design, style, and technical detail.
...
As for "exotic graphics being done over and over", so has everything, including realistic graphics. So what's your point? One can argue that Heroes 2, 3, 4's style has been done to death, so how about something different? I prefer this style over the old. I don't want the graphics to look realistic. It should look outlandish. Realism in a fantasy game? I rest my case. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's your personal opinion, but dare I say it, if you rest your case so quickly, you need not be surprised not to convince anyone.

Do you have some familiarity with pen&paper RPGs? Harnmaster is a rather long-running series. Once of its hallmarks: Historically credible societies and technology.

Why does fantasy have to be outlandish? Fantasy also depends on a suspension of disbelief, and sorry to say, pauldrons greater than chestplates and swords larger than lances don't cut it for me.

You claim the style of 2, 3 and 4 had been done to death, but I can't see how that can be the case when there was a remarkable change between 2 and 3?

The problem with your argument is that it stands on premises which are valid only for yourself.

Yes, there's no problem with cartoonish graphics in my eyes. The early games also had a rather cartoonish look. But this isn't just cartoonish graphics, it is a very specific style that deliberately attempts a "completely over the top"-ness that may or may not appeal to people. Some parts of the look appeal to me, but they're mostly what's seen in the background.

Vavutsikarios
04-05-2005, 08:05 AM
As I said before, i like the aesthetics of Heroes 3 the most. All those clear and bright colors of heroes 4 make a realy kitsch result. And, sadly, Heroes5 looks like keeping this style.

Quinea_Pig_King
04-05-2005, 08:18 AM
I must say that I liked Heroes 4. Does this make me a bad boy?

Elor_Once_Dark
04-05-2005, 08:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vavutsikarios:
As I said before, i like the aesthetics of Heroes 3 the most. All those clear and bright colors of heroes 4 make a realy kitsch result. And, sadly, Heroes5 looks like keeping this style. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree that in parts, Heroes 4 was overloaded in colors and ornamentations. Why do we need a jeweled frame around everything?

Heroes 3 had its drawbacks, too. The somewhat less cartoony creatures on the battle screen didn't fit well into the battlefield graphics, in my opinion, and lacked sharpness in some of the human characters sometimes.

Salventus
04-05-2005, 09:24 AM
Yes I do like the H5 look.

MacSoftish
04-05-2005, 10:08 AM
I really dig the H5 look! It feels somewhat like Heroes 2 in 3D!

gamebro
04-05-2005, 01:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MacSoftish:
I really dig the H5 look! It feels somewhat like Heroes 2 in 3D! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Er, not really. It looks more like ALICE IN WONDERLAND.

Heroes 2 in 3d is exactly what I want!

meh, it does not matter really. The game is sooooo far away, and I am sure the gameplay will be intact. I appologize for some of my comments, I was just so shocked when I saw the new character models, I did not know what to think. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/354.gif

Kareeah_Indaga
04-05-2005, 05:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MacSoftish:
I really dig the H5 look! It feels somewhat like Heroes 2 in 3D! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lostn:
You know it isn't realistic to get the original team back... and they might botch it further, further than they did Heroes4. Having the original team is no guarantee that it will be good, or better than previous installments.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They only “botched” it because 3DO didn’t give them the time and resources they had for previous editionsâ€"ťand not nearly as much as Nival and Ubi have at their disposal.

Elor_Once_Dark
04-06-2005, 05:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MacSoftish:
I really dig the H5 look! It feels somewhat like Heroes 2 in 3D! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I disagree. While H2 was cartoonish, it was more of a classical style cartoon, as opposed to the over-the-top style that we see here.

Alais_Servius
04-06-2005, 07:05 AM
As a matter of fact, I do like the new Heroes look. Sure, the game won't look anything like Heroes 2 or 3 or 4 but if Ubisoft do this right, no one will even care about the graphics. As someone posted here earlier:
Heroes has always been a game with quality gameplay, not graphics. Sure, Ubi will go new ways, try new things, and many of you here clearly don't like those new things, BUT if the game ends up good, that's all that matters isen't it?

And BTW, remember that the Heroes series proberly woulden't have even continued if it weren't for Ubisoft. At least they try.

lostn
04-21-2005, 03:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Why does fantasy have to be outlandish? Fantasy also depends on a suspension of disbelief, and sorry to say, pauldrons greater than chestplates and swords larger than lances don't cut it for me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

When did I say it HAS to be outlandish? However, why CAN'T it be? And why DOES it have to be realistic?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>You claim the style of 2, 3 and 4 had been done to death, but I can't see how that can be the case when there was a remarkable change between 2 and 3? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

EVERYTHING has been done to death, no matter what you pick. Both 2 and 3's style are not unique.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The problem with your argument is that it stands on premises which are valid only for yourself. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same as you.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Do you have some familiarity with pen&paper RPGs? Harnmaster is a rather long-running series. Once of its hallmarks: Historically credible societies and technology. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So should every game copy that?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>The early games also had a rather cartoonish look. But this isn't just cartoonish graphics, it is a very specific style that deliberately attempts a "completely over the top"-ness that may or may not appeal to people. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nothing appeals to everyone, not even your vision. Some people still can't accept it's 3D, others believe 2D is ancient history.

I say let the developers have discretion to build the world how they want it to look.

Elor_Once_Dark
04-21-2005, 04:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lostn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Why does fantasy have to be outlandish? Fantasy also depends on a suspension of disbelief, and sorry to say, pauldrons greater than chestplates and swords larger than lances don't cut it for me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

When did I say it HAS to be outlandish? However, why CAN'T it be? And why DOES it have to be realistic? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course it helps to ignore parts of a comment to make a case, but it doesn't lend credibility to your position. I already told you why it should not be completely outlandish: It interferes with suspension of disbelief. I never said it had to be completely realistic.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
EVERYTHING has been done to death, no matter what you pick. Both 2 and 3's style are not unique. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, then obviously, it doesn't matter whether you change the style or keep it. So no reason to do things differently.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Same as you.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A rather lame retort. I provided arguments which do not depend on premises unique to me. You did.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
So should every game copy that?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Never said so. Can you actually make an argument that counters something I said, or do you have to make up things? YOU suggested it was silly to expect realism in a fantasy game, I debunked that argument.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Nothing appeals to everyone, not even your vision. Some people still can't accept it's 3D, others believe 2D is ancient history.

I say let the developers have discretion to build the world how they want it to look. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I have discretion to say I think the style is a mixture of infantile and too much testosterone. It reminds me a lot of puberty: Huge weapons ("Mine is longer, muhaha"), huge armor ("Come, get some, I'm invincible!"), candy colors ("Hey, look at me, I'm the greatest guy in town!"), too put it very drastically.

If that appeals to you, fine. Just realize there's a few people a wee bit more mature. It's telling that in every single instance here, rather than adressing my point, you made up a point you could adress, such as the 2D vs. 3D issue, or whether the characters should look realistic (rather than believable, as I said)

kywi814
04-21-2005, 05:14 AM
Personally I think the graphic in this game have a very polished and refined look to them, especially when compared to HOMM4. Although I was never a big fan of the games that came after HOMM2, three was ok but in my opinion the graphics of HOMM2 had the best look and feel out of all the series. I feel nostalgic just thinking about it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'm also pretty happy that the game is being taken to new and more creative areas in terms of the graphics we see. I would probably get bored if it was the same reused models in every game over and over again.

Oh, and I also think the graphics look a bit more akin to Etherlords than Guild Wars.

gerdash
04-21-2005, 01:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>And I have discretion to say I think the style is a mixture of infantile and too much testosterone. It reminds me a lot of puberty: Huge weapons ("Mine is longer, muhaha"), huge armor ("Come, get some, I'm invincible!"), candy colors ("Hey, look at me, I'm the greatest guy in town!"), too put it very drastically.

If that appeals to you, fine. Just realize there's a few people a wee bit more mature. It's telling that in every single instance here, rather than adressing my point, you made up a point you could adress, such as the 2D vs. 3D issue, or whether the characters should look realistic (rather than believable, as I said) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>perfectly said, poll results make me think it's the curse of the present day -- nothing is meant to last like homm2.

when looking at the results i did feel a temptation to create another poll that starts with 'all praise big fists style' introduction (in a less obviously sarcastic way), so people would have had a chance to show that they are superior to me by voting for non-bigfisted style.

as we see in the screenshots, it must be difficult (too challenging) to blow the proportions of feet so large, and still get a harmonious looking creature. otherways i think the human archer is the best creature seen so far.

Ellderon
04-21-2005, 02:41 PM
Well, just becose something is set in a fantasy world and you can make anything you want, doesn't mena you should do it.

Why not make all humans with heads twice as large as normal and feet 3 times as large? Or why not make microscopic headz? Hey, it's fantasy!!

The point is, people judge the relism of things by comapring them with theing the know from RL.
So naturally, every fantasy setting is comapred with things we know from medival europe nad common sense.

You can very well twist the laws of gravity, but it makes the worls seem more realistc nad thus, it's harder to get immersed in it.

Like I said before, a little anime style doesn't hurt, but it should be good anime stlye.
Proportions should be very important here, I don't want to see tiny heads and huge arms, as it ends up looking like a...well..BAD...

Some units are done OK, others are awfull..

I agree that doesn't make or breake a game (well, generalyl not), but design...unit design.. is a vital part of heroes.

At least to me. I often find myself NOT using the most powerfull items/units in some other games simply becouse I find them ugly as hell.

I'm afraid that heroes don't suffer the same fate - for if the units end up badly designed, all the sfx, gameplay and tactics in the word won't save it for me.... (until a MOD comes out that changes the offending units)

yes-im-retarded
04-21-2005, 06:00 PM
Heroes fans are the worst whiners ive ever seen. Just because youre gay doesnt mean straight men can't like big satanic demons with glowing eyes.

I really like the Gfx, the only thing ive seen so far is the sword of the paladin (or whatever) wich looks kinda dull.

I mean, if you dont like the look of it now, why even bother?

Just get us some sweet animations and ill be happy

Randart1951
04-21-2005, 07:32 PM
I am one of the older gamers here and I have such appreciation for where the world of gaming has gone... Like many have posted I enjoyed the varying graphics and game play in each version of heroes and find this latest installment intriguing! Also Fabrice has mentioned that many aspects of the gameplay are being worked on and examined... Its my best guess this will be a great game!

Elor_Once_Dark
04-22-2005, 12:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by yes-im-******ed:
Heroes fans are the worst whiners ive ever seen. Just because youre gay doesnt mean straight men can't like big satanic demons with glowing eyes.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just because you're in puberty and your brain contains little but testosterone doesn't mean you qualify as a MAN.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
I really like the Gfx, the only thing ive seen so far is the sword of the paladin (or whatever) wich looks kinda dull. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I believe the word you were looking for is "dumb", since there is no way the man could handle such a weapon, let alone one-handed.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
I mean, if you dont like the look of it now, why even bother? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Duh, because it's too late when the game hits the shelves.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Just get us some sweet animations and ill be happy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, well, some people are content getting a pacifiers, others would rather have a T-bone steak.

CyberViper
04-22-2005, 12:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Until we hear what each screenshot ACTUALLY are, there is no way to say if we like them or not. My gut tells me what we see in those 4 shots are not what we are going to be seeing during gameplay. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
** First off, I have to say that I AM GOING TO BUY HOMM 5 NO MATTER WHAT. Even if all it is is a recycled box with a letter in it that reads, "We Tricked You, You Stupid HoMM Fan"...I'll still buy it. I unquestionably support HoMM. **

With that out of my system, I can say that I agree with KingImp on this.

Gamebro I hear your concerns, and I am a little "unsure" about...well I'll leave it at that for now...but all we can do as loyal fans is wait and hope for the best. Here's to the future... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

PS: Here, I'll just say it(be gentle on me guys)...I wasn't a big fan of the new angel look. Matter of fact, I was very disapointed. But I respect those who support HoMM so much that they say they like it. Hopefully, if this is what Ubisoft decides to keep, it will grow on me as I play.

yes-im-retarded
04-22-2005, 08:15 AM
Elor_Once_Dark

No i didnt mean the sword was dumb because its not realistic that a person by that size could wield it one-handed.
That really doesnt make me want my life to end.
ACTUALLY, it doesnt even bother me.

It could have looked cooler imo

sketan
04-22-2005, 06:31 PM
Hell yeah I like the new Homm5 looks.

Took me a couple of days to get used to them though. The new screenshots, especially those 2 from the adventuremap (no 3&6) are awesome!

Keep it going Nival/UBI!

gerdash
04-23-2005, 12:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sketan:
Hell yeah I like the new Homm5 looks.

Took me a couple of days to get used to them though. The new screenshots, especially those 2 from the adventuremap (no 3&6) are awesome!

Keep it going Nival/UBI! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>lol, i think this makes explaining the opposite point of view so easy that it just begs for a reply.

seems like 'i could do it in a few days, you could also, and everybody could, if they wanted', doesn't it?

my answer would be:

'Hell yeah I don't like the standard tough guy wannabe looks.

Took me a couple of years to get really sick of it though.'

well, i cannot say that i have ever been a real fan of warcraft2 style, it gradually started to disturb a little more and more. the warcraft3 style really made me sick -- combination of bigfisted style (that seems the more lame the more i look at it) and the very style that gives 3d a bad name in my eyes (the many parts of a model look separate rather than parts of the whole).

btw i am not against well done 3d, i am just saying that it seems to me that they are making special efforts not to get better results than warcraft3.

sketan
04-23-2005, 03:12 PM
"my answer would be:

'Hell yeah I don't like the standard tough guy wannabe looks.

Took me a couple of years to get really sick of it though.'"

(didnt quote the whole reply, read it yourself in the post above you lazy squirrel http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

What I really meant was, and I was too tired to develop my post any further, that the look of Homm & the creatures has changed (duh!? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ). Having a Homm5 coming out next year with basically the same but a bit upgraded graphics/stuff wouldnâ´t really feel like "the big next step" would it? Maybe that would be enough for most of you/us, but I guess that for Nival/UBI they want to make a much bigger leap, and put a whole new perspective on the series.

If if turns out well or if it fails to deliver weâ´ll just have to wait and see. I still think that the screenies look great, and especially the adventuremap ones.

Thanks for your creative comments though.

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