So, when is Ubisoft going to really fix this game?

[kornbone]

A bunch of things that are wrong with Rainbow Six Vegas 2.

-Fix guns stats. Both machineguns and sniper rifles are ridiculously underpowered.
-The shotgun is not a sniper rifle, keep this in mind, Ubisoft.
-Actually fix the armor stats. Both light and heavy armor have the same tolerance.
-Totally revamp your terrorist hunt spawning system. (is it really that hard to have them already on the map instead of spawning on the go?

[Rogue__Spear]

Originally posted by Kornbone:
A bunch of things that are wrong with Rainbow Six Vegas 2.


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[Want2Snipe]

Glad to see that we PC users are not the only ones UBI doesn't talk to but, sad to see that if UBI doesn't talk to you guys and you guys are their milk cow... were do we PC users stand? We don't stand a chance http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

[Rogue__Spear]

The console version is just as messed up as the PC. From what I hear, playing online on the PS3 is a pipe dream with this game.

[kornbone]

Originally posted by Rogue__Spear:
The console version is just as messed up as the PC. From what I hear, playing online on the PS3 is a pipe dream with this game.

It didn't work at all when the game was released. I sold the game, then got it back only for terrorist hunt.

Seriously, Ubisoft sucks hard.

[Mysticaly]

Originally posted by Rogue__Spear:
The console version is just as messed up as the PC. From what I hear, playing online on the PS3 is a pipe dream with this game. You are wrong, I play(ed) both and the console version is not at all in as bad a shape as the pc version, not even close.

[kornbone]

How bad is the PC version, just for curiosity.

[Lethal1940]

We have all of the issues you do and more.
Many players can't get the game to run at all, even on systems that meet requirements!

Here is a list of problems on the PC from PC users:

Vegas 2 PC Bug List! (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6381021386/m/9441085076)

[Rogue__Spear]

Originally posted by Mysticaly:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rogue__Spear:
The console version is just as messed up as the PC. From what I hear, playing online on the PS3 is a pipe dream with this game. You are wrong, I play(ed) both and the console version is not at all in as bad a shape as the pc version, not even close. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have the Xbox 360 version, and most of the problems I've seen are hit-detection, frame rate, and lag oriented. That, and the matchmaking is broke.

[Chuck_Withers]

Yup us 360 version are there "ideal dream" since the xbox 360 has slick online options realtivly cheap and that and parents use it as a baby sitter

[kornbone]

Originally posted by Rogue__Spear:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mysticaly:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rogue__Spear:
The console version is just as messed up as the PC. From what I hear, playing online on the PS3 is a pipe dream with this game. You are wrong, I play(ed) both and the console version is not at all in as bad a shape as the pc version, not even close. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have the Xbox 360 version, and most of the problems I've seen are hit-detection, frame rate, and lag oriented. That, and the matchmaking is broke. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just played a match of pistols only deathmatch on PSN and I think I experienced that incident.

I picked my Raging Bull and even though I shot people once and twice with it, it couldn't register(even shooting them in the head) whether I got random kills by just shooting them on the hip.

Oh and I use the AK-74S, which is listed as a rifle (i don't know why) with an ACOG scope. I can't recall how many times I've used it to shoot people from far away, and it doesn't work away.

I get more kills shooting without zooming my weapon.

Arrggh, this game is so stupid.

[Chuck_Withers]

The Ak74S is not a SMG it is an Assault rifle but it is more a Carbine, think like the M4

[Mysticaly]

Originally posted by Rogue__Spear:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mysticaly:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rogue__Spear:
The console version is just as messed up as the PC. From what I hear, playing online on the PS3 is a pipe dream with this game. You are wrong, I play(ed) both and the console version is not at all in as bad a shape as the pc version, not even close. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have the Xbox 360 version, and most of the problems I've seen are hit-detection, frame rate, and lag oriented. That, and the matchmaking is broke. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Frame rate isn't much worse than any other nextgen xbox 360 game, what "lag oriented" ? and the hit detection is on par with ie cod4, these things your listing is not the issues that bothers people on the 360 version, possibly host advantages, but which 360 game doesn't have that, or even PC game.
Ether way, let's pretend that your points are valid and that these are "breaking" the game, it's still not even near to as bad as the PC version is...

[Lorngus]

The tangos don't even have to point their gun at you in this game.. so many times I have been killed by a Tango with his gun still down and even with his back to me while he is reversing a room..... WTF! Been shot through solid walls, even seen the gun barrel emerge through solid brick to shoot me. I have been shot in first person mode when I can't see them (so they can't see me... right???).. I have blasted a whole clip into a tango and he did not even wobble on his feet (seen the blood and everthing) only for him to blast me dead with one shoot ... I have used a silencer but some how they know exactly where I am, I try to use stealth (where I can) but as soon as I pop up my head for a look they spin around and instantly shart shooting.....and this is supposed to be a 'tactical' shooter....this game is a mess!

[Rogue__Spear]

Originally posted by Mysticaly:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rogue__Spear:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mysticaly:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rogue__Spear:
The console version is just as messed up as the PC. From what I hear, playing online on the PS3 is a pipe dream with this game. You are wrong, I play(ed) both and the console version is not at all in as bad a shape as the pc version, not even close. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have the Xbox 360 version, and most of the problems I've seen are hit-detection, frame rate, and lag oriented. That, and the matchmaking is broke. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Frame rate isn't much worse than any other nextgen xbox 360 game, what "lag oriented" ? and the hit detection is on par with ie cod4, these things your listing is not the issues that bothers people on the 360 version, possibly host advantages, but which 360 game doesn't have that, or even PC game.
Ether way, let's pretend that your points are valid and that these are "breaking" the game, it's still not even near to as bad as the PC version is... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since when is this a contest to see who's game is more broken? That's exactly how you're taking this.

Anyway, I've had both CoD 4 (even beta tested it) and V2 since launch, and I can honestly say, CoD4 RARELY has any of the lag I've see rampant throughout Vegas 2 games, even when it's someone you KNOW has a great set up and connection.

And the framerate isn't much worse than other 360 games? Please, what planet are you writing to me from? The frame rate slow down on this game in some MP maps, and a lot of the areas in SP are so blatant that you'd wonder what dumb@$$ passed this game through QA control.

Hit detection in CoD4 suffers as well sometimes, but not as bad as V2. CoD4, it'd be ever other match ( It's more noticable in Hardcore which is what I usually play ), V2 it'd be in every match.

As for host advantage, I never mentioned anything about that, but it's just as bad in V2 as it was in GoW, which ought to tell you how bad THAT is.


Also, I realize you have a reputation as a hardass here you probably feel the need to uphold, but please, lay off. You show some ignorance in some of your console statements, and while I don't mean to be insulting, it shows.

Anyway, I'm not denying you PC folks have it worse. That's part of the reason I bought it on console instead, simply because I knew you guys would get the sh!t end of the stick.

[Mysticaly]

I'm not trying to be a "hardass" I'm discussing with you, that's all, if you can't take that then you really should not make posts in a forum..

Now, regarding my ignorance about console, maybe you are right, and I am very ignorant compared to your selves http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
The point I was making was to your statement that the console version was just as bad as the PC version, you did say that you know.... Now your saying that "hmmm, I know it's not as bad" well thank you for proving my point http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And btw I'm on planet Earth, at least I was the last time I checked, some ailiens might have abducted me in my sleep though to another planet that really only looks and feels like planet earth but is somewhere else.,., hmm maybe I'm all alone here really and everyone else is an illusion that I can see and feel ?? maybe the aliens have put me in a dream state and I'm not really typing this, I'm only dreaming I'm typing this ??
You really should not scare me about things like these Rouge, now you got my mind wondering.

Games with frame rate issues just as bad or worse than Vegas 2
- Call of Duty 3: This game suffers frame rate issues both in sp and mp, for some reason it seems to disappear after playing all maps for some hours.
- FEAR
- BF:BC to some extent.

The framerate issues on vegas 2 seem to be especially on the gift pack, it has been reported that these issues disappears after playing a few hours, other than that, there's always a frame rate issue in sp when doing the "disarm the bomb" missions for some reason.
I discussed this with some of my friends that actually plays this game allot (in case I where totally wrong) and they pretty much agreed that there is no game breaking framerate issues in vegas 2.

Now you might mean that there is, and you have the right to do so.

[ChronicCritic]

Originally posted by Rogue__Spear:

I've had both CoD 4 (even beta tested it) and V2 since launch, and I can honestly say, CoD4 RARELY has any of the lag I've see rampant throughout Vegas 2 games, even when it's someone you KNOW has a great set up and connection.

And the framerate isn't much worse than other 360 games? Please, what planet are you writing to me from? The frame rate slow down on this game in some MP maps, and a lot of the areas in SP are so blatant that you'd wonder what dumb@$$ passed this game through QA control.

Hit detection in CoD4 suffers as well sometimes, but not as bad as V2. CoD4, it'd be ever other match ( It's more noticable in Hardcore which is what I usually play ), V2 it'd be in every match.

As for host advantage, I never mentioned anything about that, but it's just as bad in V2 as it was in GoW, which ought to tell you how bad THAT is.



Anyway, I'm not denying you PC folks have it worse. That's part of the reason I bought it on console instead, simply because I knew you guys would get the sh!t end of the stick.



I agree^^^^^ .

The difference in quality between CoD4 and RB6V2 is a tell tale sign of the quality of the people who made these games respectively.

[ninjanut33]

this is a very big debate between call of duty 4 and r6v2. Personally I think that yes call of duty definitly has less lag and bugs, but I think that r6 gameplay is much better. I play both games and enjoy both. They are just different.

[Rogue__Spear]

Originally posted by Mysticaly:
I'm not trying to be a "hardass" I'm discussing with you, that's all, if you can't take that then you really should not make posts in a forum..

Now, regarding my ignorance about console, maybe you are right, and I am very ignorant compared to your selves http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
The point I was making was to your statement that the console version was just as bad as the PC version, you did say that you know.... Now your saying that "hmmm, I know it's not as bad" well thank you for proving my point http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And btw I'm on planet Earth, at least I was the last time I checked, some ailiens might have abducted me in my sleep though to another planet that really only looks and feels like planet earth but is somewhere else.,., hmm maybe I'm all alone here really and everyone else is an illusion that I can see and feel ?? maybe the aliens have put me in a dream state and I'm not really typing this, I'm only dreaming I'm typing this ??
You really should not scare me about things like these Rouge, now you got my mind wondering.

Games with frame rate issues just as bad or worse than Vegas 2
- Call of Duty 3: This game suffers frame rate issues both in sp and mp, for some reason it seems to disappear after playing all maps for some hours.
- FEAR
- BF:BC to some extent.

The framerate issues on vegas 2 seem to be especially on the gift pack, it has been reported that these issues disappears after playing a few hours, other than that, there's always a frame rate issue in sp when doing the "disarm the bomb" missions for some reason.
I discussed this with some of my friends that actually plays this game allot (in case I where totally wrong) and they pretty much agreed that there is no game breaking framerate issues in vegas 2.

Now you might mean that there is, and you have the right to do so.

Well, I don't mean it as I can't take you being an ***, I'm sort of used to it everywhere I go, but it'd be nice if I didn't have to encouter it EVERYWHERE.

And I will give you this, I don't know nearly as much about the PC end of things as I do the console thing. And I will also say that not every person has the same experince on said console games.

To be honest, I've never played CoD3 and I only had the demo of BF:BC so I can't comment on their framerates, but when I had FEAR, it played fine. I never noticed anything wrong with it at all except in my opinion, very sluggish controls ( which I think both Vegas games also had... ).

The giftpack has HORRIBLE frame rates, and when I played them, I've never seen them let up. This goes especially for Calypso Casino, which is a lag fest no matter how you play it.


Anyway, your friends and I might simply have different experinces. When I play, and when I play with my friends, we've always noticrd and commented about framerate issues and how bad it gets.

Different experices is all. Some people don't have problems, others do. I've played with people on the 360 who were only able to get into a match via the invite system, and vice versa.

[Want2Snipe]

Originally posted by Lorngus:
The tangos don't even have to point their gun at you in this game.. so many times I have been killed by a Tango with his gun still down and even with his back to me while he is reversing a room..... WTF! Been shot through solid walls, even seen the gun barrel emerge through solid brick to shoot me. I have been shot in first person mode when I can't see them (so they can't see me... right???).. I have blasted a whole clip into a tango and he did not even wobble on his feet (seen the blood and everthing) only for him to blast me dead with one shoot ... I have used a silencer but some how they know exactly where I am, I try to use stealth (where I can) but as soon as I pop up my head for a look they spin around and instantly shart shooting.....and this is supposed to be a 'tactical' shooter....this game is a mess!

You think you got problems? The PC game was an asinine & unoptimized port of your console game so... we got your problems x 10 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[snoopyau]

I am glad that the console editions of games
for consoles that support patching have
problems/issues/bugs .

Too long have games come out on console
first that games worked out of the retail
disc now the console users finaly get a
taste of what shoddy treatment the pc
users have to put up with .