Silent Hunter V officialy announced. TRAILER INSIDE (Renamed) [Archive]

Celeon999

08-11-2009, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Wolferz:
And we will still see loads of air plankton in our scopes. Things evolve.

That, or a design change is made after hearing feedback from the French Game show...

From what I hear they still love Jerry Lewis....

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Cologne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne)

Founded by the romans in 38 BC under the name "Colonia Claudia Ara Agrippinensium" by the way. They're gone now,... they dont call, they dont write .. propably decided to go home .. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

The chosen english name strangely seems to prefer a form of french pronounciation , hence the confusing name.

Funny thing is that the germanic tribe which founded the village that was in place before called itself "the Ubii" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

I suspect a certain "french connection" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Ahh yes ... WE prefer the three Stooges aswell as Laurel and Hardy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Ducimus_Rapax

08-11-2009, 01:32 PM

[strike]The fact of the matter is that outside of the US, the[/stirke] U boat games sell better than the Fleet Boat games.

It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out any new SH title was going to be uboats again. SH4 was not well recieved. People are too hung up on embellished novels like Iron Coffins and cinematic films like Das Boot, and they are typically not open to new experiences. Uboats are well marketed by the media, its what people know, and the mythology created around them continually grows. I for one, refuse to play another regurgitation of the battle of the atlantic. At least, not until they've done the PTO the right way. That being, with the detail of SH1, with the graphics of SH4. When they get that right, then maybe ill be ready to play the ATO again, but not before.

andy3536

08-11-2009, 01:44 PM

This is great news, would be glad if sub sim got it right and the rumours about uboats are true. The US fleet boats just arn't the same for me.
Looking foward to it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

bubblehead1980

08-11-2009, 01:50 PM

Amen ducimus, U boats blow....I doubt I will purchase SH 5...if its u boats...I'll stick to SH 4 and fleetboats....never gets old really...esp with TMO.

Maybe one day they will do the PTO justice...Sh 4 stock was good but too many bugs and things left out.Thanks for TMO, saved SH 4.

Ducimus_Rapax

08-11-2009, 02:42 PM

Well, don't get me wrong. I don't really have anything against uboats themselves. They are fun.

But i do admit im kinda bitter about the lack of attention where the PTO is concerned. I waited over a decade for a new PTO game. When one finally arrives, it was, through no fault of the devs, a rush job, and as such has much to be desired.

Given the large time period between SH4 and the last PTO game (SH1 i beleive), this game deserved a sizeable amount of attention. It had been awhile, and it deserved alot more attention then it received. Instead it was rushed, pushed out the door prematurely, and now they go trotting back to the ATO again. That kinda puts me off a bit.

Mittelwaechter

08-11-2009, 03:20 PM

Fantastic news! The djinn is out of the bottle now.
I do prefer the Atlantic scenario.

We'll see if Ubisoft has learned some lessons in community communications.

Well - hope dies last. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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dgrayson

08-11-2009, 03:43 PM

No PTO, no Dave.
I only sail under one flag.

Dave

J.L.Chamberlain

08-11-2009, 04:20 PM

Why can't Ubisoft get out of the depths and take the game to the surface where the real fighting is. I was hoping that it would be the both theaters and you could sail surface ships, I want to take command of one of those destroyers in Taffy 3 in the battle off Leyete my Grandfather watched the battle well he couldn't see ships that well but he could see the explosions in the distance.

Socko2008

08-11-2009, 04:27 PM

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/klcarroll/SockodiscussesSH5.jpg

WernherVonTrapp

08-11-2009, 04:52 PM

I have no interest in the ETO. Well, as far as naval action is concerned. The largest naval actions in human history occurred in the WWII Pacific theater, hands down. SHIII has already been marketed so, to me, it would be quite a disappointment if they were just to market it again under the premise of "new and improved". http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

J.L.Chamberlain

08-11-2009, 04:54 PM

They might as well just take the U-boat missions expansion and Rename it SH5

MWolfe1963

08-11-2009, 06:55 PM

Sounds like an expensive patch for SH3..

I've been playing Uboats and I actually enjoyed the change with the correct mods, but it would have to be a total game engine change that is remarkable. For sure, I won't rush and buy it until I hear a lot of reviews.

J.L.Chamberlain

08-11-2009, 09:12 PM

You ever notice how number 4 is always one of the best of a game series like Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare, Silent Hunter 4, and the Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion.

tuddley3

08-11-2009, 09:59 PM

ilyaroak

08-11-2009, 11:07 PM

Silent Hunter IV WITH TMO. What more do you need? Well, I need more time to play. I do not think that a Silent Hunter 5 game will be that much better. Because of Silent Hunter IV and the great work of Ducimus, It will be hard to beat.

pacific_breeze

08-12-2009, 02:05 AM

This better be at least 5 times better than SH4 including the environment, graphics, etc.

I'm wondering whether this is all about UBoat ONLY or there are other subs that we can play including the US Subs but in the Atlantic.

Well .. this will be true if everyone says it's a SH3 with improved graphics to match SH4 or even better. I'm thinking why not just having another expansion to SH4 with the battle of Atlantic and use the current engine.

I think Ubi should employ Ducimus .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Flick_U56

08-12-2009, 05:11 AM

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Naw not for me had enough of the SH series reminds me of Jaws Jaws2 Jaws3 Jaws4 and Jaws5 coming out soon with SH5. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

andy3536

08-12-2009, 06:35 AM

Originally posted by J.L.Chamberlain:
You ever notice how number 4 is always one of the best of a game series like Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare, Silent Hunter 4, and the Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion.

4 was never finished as a standard game and 3 was so much better.
TMO made it playable but just disn't have the apeal of the Uboats.
I'm sure the Americans on here feel different and that 4 was the best as it's American subs but playability isn't a patch on 3.

J.L.Chamberlain

08-12-2009, 06:49 AM

So your saying because I'm American I only liked the game because I could command an American boat well I don't really no to much about my own country's WWII subs so I stuck with U-boat missions for quite some time besides I know where all the American convoys are going in Pacific and the Atlantic so I would succeed being a U-boat Kaptain.

Celeon999

08-12-2009, 07:03 AM

Uboats......Atlantic......but which war ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9092/uboat1.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2535/uboat3.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9932/uboat2.jpg

klcarroll

08-12-2009, 07:25 AM

To be terribly blunt; ….I have to say that I just don’t understand all the negative feelings! We should be delighted that ANY major company is willing to invest development time and money in a niche market like PC Submarine Simulations!!!!

OK, …….So SH4 didn’t give you everything you wanted: ……I can identify with that! ….After all, I didn’t get my Narwhal; ……Which was the only U.S. boat that I was REALLY interested in seeing a good simulation of! (You ask WHY??? …..Well, it’s because the Narwhal Class was the only class that was NEVER used for its original design purpose: ….And I think that “simming” that original concept would have been fascinating!) …………..But calling SH4 “unfinished” (as accurate as that may be) is still no justification for “writing off” a new (and totally unknown) game!

I also don’t understand the negative responses that seem to be based on nationalistic issues. Does anyone REALLY feel that you have to buy into the related National Politics, Purposes, and Philosophies in order to play one “side” or the other??? Does commanding a simulated UBoat REALLY make you “one of the Bad Guys”??? If your gaming experience requires that level of “identification and rapport”, …..then it’s time to turn off the computer and go fishing!

Personally, …if someone released a game based on U.S. Civil War naval actions; ….I could EASILY command a confederate frigate and NEVER ONCE feel guilty about the issue of slavery!!! I play sims because I enjoy good military simulations: ….That’s it!!

They are, ….in the final analysis, …..only games!

klcarroll

J.L.Chamberlain

08-12-2009, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by klcarroll:
To be terribly blunt; ….I have to say that I just don’t understand all the negative feelings! We should be delighted that ANY major company is willing to invest development time and money in a niche market like PC Submarine Simulations!!!!

OK, …….So SH4 didn’t give you everything you wanted: ……I can identify with that! ….After all, I didn’t get my Narwhal; ……Which was the only U.S. boat that I was REALLY interested in seeing a good simulation of! (You ask WHY??? …..Well, it’s because the Narwhal Class was the only class that was NEVER used for its original design purpose: ….And I think that “simming” that original concept would have been fascinating!) …………..But calling SH4 “unfinished” (as accurate as that may be) is still no justification for “writing off” a new (and totally unknown) game!

I also don’t understand the negative responses that seem to be based on nationalistic issues. Does anyone REALLY feel that you have to buy into the related National Politics, Purposes, and Philosophies in order to play one “side” or the other??? Does commanding a simulated UBoat REALLY make you “one of the Bad Guys”??? If your gaming experience requires that level of “identification and rapport”, …..then it’s time to turn off the computer and go fishing!

Personally, …if someone released a game based on U.S. Civil War naval actions; ….I could EASILY command a confederate frigate and NEVER ONCE feel guilty about the issue of slavery!!! I play sims because I enjoy good military simulations: ….That’s it!!

They are, ….in the final analysis, …..only games!

klcarroll

There you go you said what I was thinking but I would wup your frigate with my Union Ironclad though it may not be able to catch you I could still give you something to waste ammo on. But you are right about the slave thing I play Confederate commanders I like such as Longstreet, Hill, and so on but but I never go well I guess I'm supporting slavery now no I just play because I am very interested in the Military battles of the American Civil War.

Maverick_U2007

08-12-2009, 08:14 AM

BTOG46

08-12-2009, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by Maverick_U2007:
How many other titles are into their 5th version?????

Maverick

Take a look at the forum just above this one, The Settles series is a "niche" market, with a huge following in Germany, but still has a good following in the rest of the world.

That series has way more than 5 versions now, with several remakes of one early version, and rumours of the 7th in the overall series. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

My own personal preference for SH5 would be to have the entire WW2 theatre and Nations involved, as I'd love to have a go with X Craft against the Tirpitz, or riding an Italian maiale to sink British Battleships at Alkexandria. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Maverick_U2007

08-12-2009, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by BTOG46:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Maverick_U2007:
How many other titles are into their 5th version?????

Maverick

Take a look at the forum just above this one, The Settles series is a "niche" market, with a huge following in Germany, but still has a good following in the rest of the world.

That series has way more than 5 versions now, with several remakes of one early version, and rumours of the 7th in the overall series. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

My own personal preference for SH5 would be to have the entire WW2 theatre and Nations involved, as I'd love to have a go with X Craft against the Tirpitz, or riding an Italian maiale to sink British Battleships at Alkexandria. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe I should have said...'There are not that many titles that are in their 5th Version!!!'

Maverick

krazyfrenchman

08-12-2009, 09:40 AM

Just to throw oil on the fire (what the hell does that mean anyway? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif ), U-boats were still called U-boats well into the 80s by the Bundesmarine (and I would not be surprised that it is still the case for their newer designs).

So, do you still think that it will be WWII-based now? Just a thought... since very few leaks (if any?) have hinted to the era at which the game will be based.

In my humble opinion, speculations only brings attention & interest to the game for subsim gamers...

Enjoy your day now!

Celeon999

08-12-2009, 09:54 AM

Well , there is only ww1 and ww2 right ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

A Silent Hunter Uboat Cold war would be rather boring. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Stalking soviet subs near Norway without ever firing a shot is less fun than one might think. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2633/uboot32mittlerewebansic.jpg

Sinking the USS Enterprise in a 1980's wargame aswell. No audio/visual feedback http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1025/zielfotou24enterprise.jpg

ElAurens

08-12-2009, 09:54 AM

A "whole world war" approach would have my interest. And really the only reason I want to stick with the Pacific is because I'm just so tired of the Atlantic. I have nothing against U-Boats as machines, just tired of it over and over and over again.

I'd really like a well modeled IJN campaign to be honest, something that would be as difficult as the U-Boats during the late war period, only you can't dive as deep...

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klcarroll

08-12-2009, 10:25 AM

I'd really like a well modeled IJN campaign to be honest, something that would be as difficult as the U-Boats during the late war period, only you can't dive as deep...

....And you would get to launch the ONLY aircraft to ever drop a bomb on the continental U.S.!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

klcarroll

Celeon999

08-12-2009, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by klcarroll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'd really like a well modeled IJN campaign to be honest, something that would be as difficult as the U-Boats during the late war period, only you can't dive as deep...

....And you would get to launch the ONLY aircraft to ever drop a bomb on the continental U.S.!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

klcarroll </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually we drop bombs from planes on continental u.s soil everyday ...while listening to local music ..... and that since 1956 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

For instance in Alamogordo , New Mexico (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl7b2Sk6T5k) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And we drive "slightly" modified VW Beetles which would likely be NOT street legal here in Germany (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=248fyofF950) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

There is a L missing in Willkommen but i guess that display is just not wide enough ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4072/willkommenk.jpg

"Ant evn moar of uz are komming now ,Ja !"http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9300/moreb.jpg

klcarroll

08-12-2009, 11:38 AM

Actually we drop bombs from planes on continental u.s soil everyday ...while listening to local music .....

Somehow, ......I just don't think it's quite the same when "The Home Team" isn't "actively objecting"!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

klcarroll

Celeon999

08-12-2009, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by klcarroll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Actually we drop bombs from planes on continental u.s soil everyday ...while listening to local music .....

Somehow, ......I just don't think it's quite the same when "The Home Team" isn't "actively objecting"!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

klcarroll </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its a bit boring , yes... could you....you know...fire a bit at them ? Just from time to time to keep those boys awake ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ok back to topic :

Ive read that the games on the UBI presentation list will also be presented by playable demos.

Maybe UBI will already show more than just a trailer for SH-V aswell ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

WernherVonTrapp

08-12-2009, 12:37 PM

Actually we drop bombs from planes on continental u.s soil everyday ...while listening to local music ..... and that since 1956 Sounds a little like Operation Red Flag. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

J.L.Chamberlain

08-12-2009, 01:04 PM

What happened to operation let's blow up every living thing till we're satisfied which is normally when every blade of grass is destroyed. I miss carpet bombing.

Socko2008

08-12-2009, 01:24 PM

What happened to operation let's blow up every living thing till we're satisfied which is normally when every blade of grass is destroyed. I miss carpet bombing.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/klcarroll/Sockodiscusseschamberlain.jpg

tuddley3

08-12-2009, 01:48 PM

Ditto

ElAurens

08-12-2009, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by klcarroll:
....And you would get to launch the ONLY aircraft to ever drop a bomb on the continental U.S.!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

klcarroll

If only we could merge with IL2 and actually be able to fly the mission. I'd deviate from the profile a bit. Don't think I'd waste those 50kg. incendiarys on a wet forest...

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Celeon999

08-13-2009, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by Socko2008:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What happened to operation let's blow up every living thing till we're satisfied which is normally when every blade of grass is destroyed. I miss carpet bombing.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/klcarroll/Sockodiscusseschamberlain.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, i think that strategy finally died in Vietnam when it failed to disrupt the Ho-Chi-Minh trail and offered much less effect during the siege of the Marine Corps base at Khe Sanh than everyone expected.

Operation Niagara was supposed to completely smash the North Vietnamese forces at Khe Sanh but after 14.200 tons of explosives dropped, it barely achieved to prevent the base from being overrun.

Check this video here. Listen to what the reporters ask General Wheeler.

Can you imagine how embarassing it must had been for him that such a question was even considered by the reporters now ?

Extract from Dear America - Letters home from Vietnam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVjrXU-Z0jE&feature=related)

A excellent documentary btw ! Highly recommended http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

andy3536

08-13-2009, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Celeon999:
Well , there is only ww1 and ww2 right ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

A Silent Hunter Uboat Cold war would be rather boring. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Stalking soviet subs near Norway without ever firing a shot is less fun than one might think. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2633/uboot32mittlerewebansic.jpg

Sinking the USS Enterprise in a 1980's wargame aswell. No audio/visual feedback http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1025/zielfotou24enterprise.jpg

A WW1 game would be a change from the norm and truly fascinating.

can't wait for the announcment to see just what it is and the eye candy.
Might feel the need to upgrade again....

shadow_858

08-13-2009, 10:51 AM

I think it's time for the official KL Carroll "offend everyone and damn the consequences" version of the game.

I would therefore suggest one of the following:

A female version of the game called:

'Silent Hunter 5 ****s Of The Sea'

A Gay version of the game called:

'Silent Hunter 5 Pansies Of The Pacific'

A religious version of the game called:

'Mohamed sank my convoy'

Definitely a winner there, Dan!

J.L.Chamberlain

08-13-2009, 10:56 AM

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klcarroll

08-13-2009, 11:48 AM

think it's time for the official KL Carroll "offend everyone and damn the consequences" version of the game.

So....., I've become the "poster boy" for everything that is "Politically Incorrect"???

......OK, .....I'm good with that! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I guess that's what happens when you hang around with Socko too long. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

klcarroll

Socko2008

08-13-2009, 11:57 AM

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/klcarroll/Sockodiscussesklcarroll.jpg

WMMangus

08-13-2009, 12:45 PM

"Well, i think that strategy finally died in Vietnam when it failed to disrupt the Ho-Chi-Minh trail and offered much less effect during the siege of the Marine Corps base at Khe Sanh than everyone expected.

Operation Niagara was supposed to completely smash the North Vietnamese forces at Khe Sanh but after 14.200 tons of explosives dropped, it barely achieved to prevent the base from being overrun."

I think Linebacker II proved the case pretty well--it brought NV to the peace talks and ended the "war". Operation Niagara didn't have any clear targets; there may or may not have been troops in that patch of jungle that day. Linebacker II was much more specific and much more effective.

Celeon999

08-13-2009, 01:42 PM

Sure the damage by the bombing runs was severe and brought North Vietnam back to the negotiation table, but with the sole intention of providing a "clean as still possible" way out of Vietnam for the USA.

So the Linebacker operations had nothing to do with winning anything anymore as not even Nixon believed that a lasting Korea style "hot peace" could be maintained between north and south.

The bombings were aimed at keeping the north at the negotiation table and to prevent that it would take the whole south within months.

The resulting Paris peace agreement was propably the most worthless treaty ever signed as it was ignored by both sides from the first day on.

In the end, the north openly broke the treaty, launched a last massive offensive and with the u.s refusing to further back the south Vietnamese government financially and militarly , the vietnamese army was quickly overun and Saigon evacuated and shortly after its new name became Ho-Chi-Minh City which it still carries today.

So the carpet bombing did not even in that case achieved anything of lasting worth.

BTW

Just found a rare photo of Ho Chi Minh with sailors of the east german navy.

Never seen that one before. Propably left forgotten in the federal archives for decades http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Taken in 1957

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-48579-0009%2C_Stralsund%2C_Ho_Chi_Minh_mit_Matrosen_der_ NVA.jpg

Starforce3

08-13-2009, 05:21 PM

Well, If sh5 is moddable, why not TC everything? With new code might meana new model format, one easier to use. There's plenty of people who can make good looking boats. Hell, even in sh4, the german side still kinda sucks. Go to any friendly port in an american sub and what do you see? Friendly ships everywhere. BB's at anchor ect. The same time period, same port, while playing as german and all you get is a convoy, some dd's and pt's. It'd be nice if the traffic was the same.

Ducimus_Rapax

08-13-2009, 06:14 PM

Well, major fleet actions weren't exactly all that common in the battle of the atlantic; which was mostly a convoy and HK group affair.

J.L.Chamberlain

08-13-2009, 06:48 PM

Or for the Allies in the Atalantic there were the HX and the SC convoys that went from New York to England.

Wolferz

08-13-2009, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by Socko2008:
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/klcarroll/Sockodiscussesklcarroll.jpg

Don't let it worry you, Socko ol' boy. We know.
We know.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

pacific_breeze

08-14-2009, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by Celeon999:
BTW

Just found a rare photo of Ho Chi Minh with sailors of the east german navy.

Never seen that one before. Propably left forgotten in the federal archives for decades http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Taken in 1957

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-48579-0009%2C_Stralsund%2C_Ho_Chi_Minh_mit_Matrosen_der_ NVA.jpg

Does anyone ever wonder how Celeon got this picture from the archive?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Hmmm... starting to wonder ... "Who actually Celeon is" ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Celeon999

08-14-2009, 03:19 AM

Celeon would like to take this opportunity to once again , fully and completely deny any connections or support to certain south-east asian regimes, regime leaders or socialistic organisations in foresaid area. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

klcarroll

08-14-2009, 03:23 AM

Does anyone ever wonder how Celeon got this picture from the archive??

Hmmm... starting to wonder ... "Who actually Celeon is" ...

Yeah!! ....I know what you mean!! ...All that seemingly "inside information", his geographic location, and his extensive bunker!!

....I remember reading that when THIS guy died, he left all of his personal files and journals to a favorite son:

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/klcarroll/mielkebirthday-1.jpg

......Maybe Celeon knows that guy. (...or something!)http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

klcarroll

P.S. ...And as long as we're talking about Celeon's pictures; .....I just have to ask: "Why is "Uncle Ho" and ALL of the sailors SQUATTING on the deck???? ....Was the photographer REALLY short??"

Celeon999

08-14-2009, 04:21 AM

Now Celeon would like to take this new opportunity to stress that :

- having an extensive bunker with 8 meters thick reinforced ceiling is NOT illegal anywhere.

- the man on this photograph is not personally known or related to Celeon in any way.

- the foresaid photograph is clearly a forgery and definitely part of the same dirt campaign against him that also faked another photograph allegedly showing him visiting ill cuban ex-president Fidel Castro in the Che Guevara memorial hospital in Havanna, Cuba.

- that Ho Chi Minh and the sailors were propably squatting because the man using the camera was ...... *looks into his little blue PC advisory bible* .... of shorter body height ? http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5057/brush2d.gif

- that the person on the left behind Uncle Ho is NOT prince Harry of Wales !

J.L.Chamberlain

08-14-2009, 06:50 AM

I think I might grow my gotee like that asian dude in the picture.

Liddabit

08-14-2009, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by J.L.Chamberlain:
I think I might grow my gotee like that asian dude in the picture.

I always wondered why it was called a goatee, ahah!

http://pro.corbis.com/images/CB065829.jpg?size=572&uid={89FC6890-7715-406B-AAEB-82FB2F0F264E}

Pacific_Ace

08-16-2009, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by Starforce3:
Go to any friendly port in an american sub and what do you see? Friendly ships everywhere. BB's at anchor ect. The same time period, same port, while playing as german and all you get is a convoy, some dd's and pt's. It'd be nice if the traffic was the same.
Starforce this is historically accurate. Germany's capital fleet consisted of 4 battleships and one carrier that never became operational.
On entry to the war America alone had 7 carriers and 17 BB's with 4 more coming online before August of 1942. Adding in the British fleet makes the disparity even worse for the Germans.
The fact is while Germanys land forces have historically been something to be reckoned with, its never been a naval power like the USA, UK and Japan.

ElAurens

08-16-2009, 10:27 AM

That's what happens when you have an Austrian corproral directing a cadre of Prussian cavalry generals that make up your military high command.

Celeon999

08-16-2009, 10:45 AM

Ohhhh yeah, ... the german navy and the nazis. That was never what one could call a love story anyway. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Not much love for one another right from the beginning. At least between both executive floors http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Messervy

08-16-2009, 02:30 PM

On entry to the war America alone had 7 carriers

O.K.
I do need some refreshment on this......

1. Lexington
2. Saratoga
3. Yorktown
4. Enterprise
5. Langley - Not a real carrier
6. Wasp - not operational....I think
7. ??????

ElAurens

08-16-2009, 07:14 PM

Hornet?

WernherVonTrapp

08-16-2009, 08:24 PM

In the Pacific Fleet, during the attack on Pearl Harbor, the U.S. had only two carriers in the immediate vicinity (Pacific Theater).
USS Enterprise
USS Lexington

The Saratoga was docked at San Diego (I think)undergoing a refitting.
The Hornet having just been commisioned in late Oct. 41, hadn't even completed a shakedown cruise yet and was in the Atlantic Fleet.
Yorktown, Ranger and Wasp were part of the Atlantic Fleet and docked in Norfolk Virginia.
The Langley had been converted to a seaplane tender.

Celeon999

08-17-2009, 12:11 AM

How many carriers did the u.s had at the end of the war ?

And how many escort carriers ?

I know of a escort carrier , the USS Block Island which was sunk by U-549 near the Canary Islands.

Messervy

08-17-2009, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by ElAurens:
Hornet?

Oh...amnesia - Thank You!

WernherVonTrapp

08-17-2009, 02:12 AM

How many carriers did the u.s had at the end of the war ?

And how many escort carriers ?
That's a good question?! Let's just say, there was a s**tload of them, including the Escort Carriers. Consequently, no other nation EVER had as many carriers in the entire history of their navies as we did at then end of WWII (that includes carriers that were already under construction and/or completed but never saw action).

Don't forget the Independence class carriers of which, I think, 9 were built. They were smaller carriers but not Escort class.
I think a total of 26 Essex Class carriers were built but only 14 saw action. I'm sure the Escort class numbers are up there too but I honestly don't know the total number.

Pacific_Ace

08-17-2009, 07:13 AM

The answer to this question is truly staggering.

Large Fleet Carriers (CVB)- 2 (late 45, no action)
Fleet Carriers (CV)
Lexington Class- 2
Ranger Class- 1
Yorktown Class- 2
Wasp Class- 1
Hornet Class- 1
Essex Class- 17
------------------------------
Total CV's 26

Light Carriers (CVL)
Independance Class- 9
Saipan Class- 2
----------------------------
Total CVL 11

Escort Carriers (CVE)
Long Island Class- 2
Bogue Class- 11
Sangamon Class- 4
Casablanca Class- 50
Commencement Bay Class- 16 with 3 more in 1946
----------------------------------------------
Total CVE's - 83 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Total carriers @ end of 1945 - <span class="ev_code_RED">120</span>

ElAurens

08-17-2009, 09:43 AM

American industry FTW.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ElAurens

08-17-2009, 09:44 AM

Oh, you missed the two paddle wheel carriers operating on Lake Michigan for training.

Celeon999

08-17-2009, 12:00 PM

Silent Hunter V was officialy announced by Ubisoft today. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Watch Trailer in english here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5TbW04FzkI)

Watch Trailer in german here (http://silent-hunter.de.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/)

Noticed the fleetboat dive siren in this trailer ? Uboats had rings not sirens. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Just mentioning it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

EDIT : Seems i was late. Already two other threads on this http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

Anyway here are the screenshots

Seems that we finally get our complete accessible sub. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1032/0009285.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1871/0009282.jpg

And two artworks

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3922/32705343.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1747/82208985.jpg

RockinRobbins

08-17-2009, 12:50 PM

Yuk, what an implausible movie! What lousy artwork! Who makes up this crap? They market it like a multiplayer FPS. I trust the game might be much better than the video or artwork and the screenshot seems to bear this out.

I think Ubi is doing precisely the correct thing, again separating U-Boats from fleet boats. Let's hope they get it right this time and release two co-equal flagship subsims with great quality and gameplay on both parts.

It's about time Ubi started acting in its own best interest. That means selling two compelling games in the place of one. It means not forcing U-Boat players to listen to english or fleet boat players to listen to German without switching mods. When I see the fleet boat game I'm buying one of each. Until then I'm happy with SH4.

Celeon999

08-17-2009, 12:56 PM

SH-IV had a Uboat addon, maybe they will consider making a fleetboat addon for SH-V at some time ?

Yeah the trailer is a bit...hollywood....style... but the file is named trailer1 so i think there will be more in the coming months which may show more actual ingame footage.

Now that it seems that we can freely walk through our uboat....i wonder if we can also climb out of the conning tower without screen switch ? That would be cool

GerritJ9

08-17-2009, 01:12 PM

I was hoping it would be a WW1 U-Boot sim, perhaps even a full WW1 sim with German, Austrian, British, French and Russian subs....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Subsim

08-17-2009, 01:14 PM

Agreed. U-boats, US subs, should not matter to us hardcore subsimmers. Buy the game and keep Ubisoft happy they are making new simulations. There aren't a lot of alternatives.

Originally posted by klcarroll:
To be terribly blunt; ….I have to say that I just don’t understand all the negative feelings! We should be delighted that ANY major company is willing to invest development time and money in a niche market like PC Submarine Simulations!!!!

OK, …….So SH4 didn’t give you everything you wanted: ……I can identify with that! ….After all, I didn’t get my Narwhal; ……Which was the only U.S. boat that I was REALLY interested in seeing a good simulation of! (You ask WHY??? …..Well, it’s because the Narwhal Class was the only class that was NEVER used for its original design purpose: ….And I think that “simming” that original concept would have been fascinating!) …………..But calling SH4 “unfinished” (as accurate as that may be) is still no justification for “writing off” a new (and totally unknown) game!

I also don’t understand the negative responses that seem to be based on nationalistic issues. Does anyone REALLY feel that you have to buy into the related National Politics, Purposes, and Philosophies in order to play one “side” or the other??? Does commanding a simulated UBoat REALLY make you “one of the Bad Guys”??? If your gaming experience requires that level of “identification and rapport”, …..then it’s time to turn off the computer and go fishing!

Personally, …if someone released a game based on U.S. Civil War naval actions; ….I could EASILY command a confederate frigate and NEVER ONCE feel guilty about the issue of slavery!!! I play sims because I enjoy good military simulations: ….That’s it!!

They are, ….in the final analysis, …..only games!

klcarroll

Celeon999

08-17-2009, 01:20 PM

Yeah, i also hoped for something a bit more bold. WW1 or Fleetboat/Uboats combined in one game.

But WW1 is effectively not realizable with the Silent Hunter engine. Yet alone because of the 3d interior.

Try to find references to model the sub. Almost impossible. There are effectively none left in museums around the world which you could visit.

Only tiny old photos often of varying quality and very very few interior ones.

Definitely not enough to model a complete interior or just a control room. Accurate technical data and stats on ships and subs of this era is also rare and sometimes even conflicting , depending on which source you prefer.

Its just too long ago now. So many important details are hard to find out or are completely lost. Soon it will be 100 years !

In the end , you would need to fill in the gaps with so much fantasy it would be like the frog DNA they used to revive the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park..... so to say. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Also, no TDC ! It would be either full arcade or uber realism where you would need to do all calculations in your head and on paper. Just like they did in the old days.

Very hard to integrate this concept into the Silent Hunter world.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1269/uboatu1181b.jpg

pacific_breeze

08-17-2009, 01:23 PM

I think this trailer is the in-game graphic itself. They made the human animation, skin and face which are better than SH4 and not surprising those features will appear in the game. It is pretty much the same idea like the SH4 opening "movie" which is taken from the game graphics (I think).

Also, nice to see that they listen to most of people's expectation .. go to all sub's compartments. COOL!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

If the explosion in the trailer is really what it looks like in the game then it looks a lot more realistic compared to SH4.

However, wouldn't be surprising that SH4 environment MODS like water, sun, reflections can match this SH5 environment.

It's still far to judge what the real game like but it seems cool for now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif . I love those two art pictures .. they are extremely cool!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif I wouldn't mind having them as my study room posters. I wish UBI will sell those arts.

It won't be impossible to add the PT game to SH5 and may possibly come in SH5 expansion.

AVGWarhawk

08-17-2009, 01:31 PM

Although the Pacific is my interest the uboats have long been an interest to me as well. In the spirit of just submarines in total, I will look forward to this new edition of Silent Hunter. In all reality men, it does look like UBI has taken our very own ideas and wants for a subsim and put them in the game. For that I applaud UBI and all involved with the SH series. I look forward to the Atlantic once again with new graphics and interface.

J.L.Chamberlain

08-17-2009, 01:36 PM

I'm going to get the game just because it will have improved graphics and I'll be able to walk through my sub. Also can people stop complaining if you don't like it don't buy it.

Messervy

08-17-2009, 01:38 PM

YESSSSSS....we are in business again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Now I only hope they don't try to be over innovative.

MWolfe1963

08-17-2009, 01:39 PM

We have a complete sub.......that's enough for me to give up going out to eat one night....

Ducimus_Rapax

08-17-2009, 02:06 PM

Well, i have to admit the fully rendered interior surprises me. The rest however is exactly what i expected. People want the hollywood styled das boot experience, and it looks like ubi's going to deliver.

My only qualm is the realization that the pacific will NEVER be given the attention it deserves. The marketing guru's and sales figures will see to that. I hope people really enjoy uboats THAT much, because outside of the rush job that is SH4; uboats are the only WW2 subsim anyone will ever see, of that i'm certain.

J.L.Chamberlain

08-17-2009, 02:13 PM

Can't anybody say they like the game for once not, why couldn't they take us to the Pacific why not World War I why is it so Hollywood. This is what I have to say, why don't you just wait and see dammit. They release a Hollywood styled trailer and everyone goes off like what I mention above why don't you just make a complaints thread instead.

pacific_breeze

08-17-2009, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by MWolfe1963:
We have a complete sub.......that's enough for me to give up going out to eat one night....

Just make sure that you don't forget to sleep as well .. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Can't anybody say they like the game for once not, why couldn't they take us to the Pacific why not World War I why is it so Hollywood. This is what I have to say, why don't you just wait and see dammit. They release a Hollywood styled trailer and everyone goes off like what I mention above why don't you just make a complaints thread instead.

I'll buy the game for sure as I've never played SH3 and with the improved graphics .. I think I want to experience something new.

Also, not saying that we are gonna have the new SS comp of SH5 .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Tambor .. what do you think .. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

About people complaining .. it's just the nature of human behaviour .. they got used to the idea of existing one like SH4 and it becomes their standard or something that doesn't get to what they think would be cool to have. The side effect is .. hard to accept the new one if appears to be different .. oh well .. nothing can change their thinking except themselves http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

J.L.Chamberlain

08-17-2009, 02:31 PM

Still it is useless, send Ubi reviews after the game is done don't complain about it when you have no idea what is in the game.

pacific_breeze

08-17-2009, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by J.L.Chamberlain:
Still it is useless, send Ubi reviews after the game is done don't complain about it when you have no idea what is in the game.

Agree .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and most importantly .. for UBI not to make the same mistake like when SH4 was first released .. that is for sure .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ducimus_Rapax

08-17-2009, 02:46 PM

There's a difference between complaining, and stating the obvious. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

longam

08-17-2009, 03:18 PM

Based on what? cinematic trailer with voice overs?

I just hope they have some immersion with the crew. The old run around and wait and shoot get old by yourself.

ElAurens

08-17-2009, 03:35 PM

Oh.

Joy.

More U-boats.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

As I said over at Subsim.

I'll pass.

MWolfe1963

08-17-2009, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Ducimus_Rapax:
There's a difference between complaining, and stating the obvious. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Well Duc, like JL's face, the truth sometimes hurts.

Ducimus_Rapax

08-17-2009, 04:01 PM

Based on what? cinematic trailer with voice overs?

I tend to look at things in context with the big picture. My thoughts are not without reason or rational. I'd expand my thoughts to illustrate why i think the way i do, but no good would come of it, and its not my intention to convince or prove anything. At any rate, im sure that SH5 will be the best WW2 submarine sim to date when its released.

longam

08-17-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Ducimus_Rapax:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Based on what? cinematic trailer with voice overs?

I tend to look at things in context with the big picture. My thoughts are not without reason or rational. I'd expand my thoughts to illustrate why i think the way i do, but no good would come of it, and its not my intention to convince or prove anything. At any rate, im sure that SH5 will be the best WW2 submarine sim to date when its released. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Plenty of debate to come... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WernherVonTrapp

08-17-2009, 04:26 PM

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fc/hiding.gif

Ducimus_Rapax

08-17-2009, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by longam:
Plenty of debate to come... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Yeah i know. It'll be a regular battle of the fanboy's if the heated forum debates on the prelaunch info on SH4 was any indicator. That kinda left a bad taste in my mouth, and forever changed my perception of the submarine sim community. I never forgot some of the things people said during that time (and im guilty firing back my own rhetoric in response to theirs). This time around, i hope i'm not around to see it. Hopefully i'll have found a new hobby by then.

IZT

08-17-2009, 09:52 PM

Hell yeahhhhhh!

Thank you Ubisoft.

Now how bout Destroyer Command 2 (:

Liddabit

08-18-2009, 12:16 AM

I'm kind of torn:

On one hand, I hate fighting for the axis!

On the other, I find the north sea and atlantic much more interesting than tropical pacific (maybe cause I'm from that area). I also think the north atlantic campaign is much harder. I get sunkified alot more in Sh3 than Sh4 (With GWX and TMO installed, I would have to be asleep to get sunk without those)

I kind of find the hardships the German sailors had endearing. Even though all sides were cramped, the german sailors were cramped more than I can imagine living at all! Also the ridiculous odds they were facing, with insane leadership seems to garner more respect. Though now that I have learned more, I think the American Pacific sub force probably deserves more, they were far more successful it seems. (except for U-47, I can't imagine the guts it would take to do that!!)

Celeon999

08-18-2009, 01:02 AM

Agreed. U-boats, US subs, should not matter to us hardcore subsimmers. Buy the game and keep Ubisoft happy they are making new simulations. There aren't a lot of alternatives.

I absolutely agree here.

Just look what happened to the sim genre in the last 15 years. It became almost completely extinct.

Other genres rule the show now. Be happy that there are still a few sims out there at all.

Fact is that SH-III was only made because people bought SH-II, also fact is that SH-IV was only made because people bought SH-III.

Silent Hunter has survived as it still has a fanbase big enough to be profitable.

You dont like SH-V and dont buy it because the theater doesnt fit your preferences ?

Ok, your choice, but then you will have to live with the fact that with that you just did your part to support the market analyzers who keep on suggesting :

"Oh lets kill off this Silent Hunter sim thing completely.

It did not sell as much as Rip The Taliban Guts Out 2.

We could maximize our profit with putting the money into a super cool 1st shooter in which kids can kill iraqi insurgents with a super detailed realistic assault rifle that is as close to the real thing as possible.

IN SLOW-MO ! Thats what the kids want !"

Thats the harsh reality most people still havent understood. This is not like "i dont like that 1st person shooter so i'll take one of the twenty others that will come out soon".

There are no twenty other subsims.

There never will be. Instead there will be just one or two and the best and in fact only thing you can do to keep the sub sim genre alive is to buy those games.

You want a Pacific Theater Silent Hunter 6 ?
You want a Pacific/Atlantic does it all Silent Hunter game ?
You want a Destroyer Command 2 ?

Then buy SH-V and THEN you can tell UBI what you would like to have next time.

Otherwise you dont need to tell it to them at all.

Thats the deal we have to live with.

We will get a fully accessible sub as enough of us bought SH-III and SH-IV and joined the choir singing "We want a completely accessible sub please ! That we would be so cool !"

Buy SH-V and tell UBI that you would love to have the next game to offer fleetboats and uboats in one. And eventually we all might just get that.

Its the most logical thing anyway. People will buy because of the uboats, people will buy because of the fleetboats and people will buy because of both. How could you reach more costumers with your product ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

See it that way ,with buying SH-V you dont just spend your money on a sub sim, you also invest into the future of subsims !

Phlaterg

08-18-2009, 01:14 AM

I will definately get this game! It looks good. I don't know what people are complaining about. Yes, Fleet boats haven't been confirmed, but they haven't been denied either. We'll just have to wait and see.

GerritJ9

08-18-2009, 02:18 AM

Celeon....... I disagree about not enough sources for WW1 subs. By no means do I have an extensive library about WW1 subs, but two books I do have contain a LOT of info about WW1 U-Boote:
1) "Geschichte des deutschen Ubootbaus" by Eberhard Rössler, J.F. Lehmanns Verlag 1975, ISBN 3-469-00507-9
2) "60 Jahre deutsche Uboote" by Bodo Herzog, J.F. Lehmanns Verlag 1968 (no ISBN)
There are undoubtedly more books which also contain much info on WW1 U-Boote. The info on WW1 subs may not be as easy to find as on WW2 subs...... but it's there if you look hard enough. After all, the people who made "Schalen des Zorns" got their info from SOMEWHERE.....
Info on British subs can most probably be found at the National Maritime Museum, which seems to have an absolute treasure hoard of info on all types of ships.

Celeon999

08-18-2009, 03:05 AM

"60 Jahre deutsche Uboote"

I almost bought that one a while ago. I saw it on a rag-fair but did not had any money with me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

But what about interior photographs of ww1 submarines. Are there enough for a 3D model ? Shells of Fury does not offer a 3d interior.

Mittelwaechter

08-18-2009, 03:28 AM

http://a.imagehost.org/0454/actionharbor800x500.jpg

bigger: http://h.imagehost.org/view/0059/actionharbor

Wolferz

08-18-2009, 04:14 AM

Originally posted by Ducimus_Rapax:
There's a difference between complaining, and stating the obvious. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I second that.

Celeon999

08-18-2009, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by Mittelwaechter:
http://a.imagehost.org/0454/actionharbor800x500.jpg

bigger: http://h.imagehost.org/view/0059/actionharbor

Look at all the new little SH-IV style details on the VII http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

I wonder if really all of the boats have fully accessible compartments.

With the XXI we would get a interior which is a lot bigger including a real captain's cabin like in those wonderfully decadent american fleetboats http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Oh this luxury http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

ElAurens

08-18-2009, 04:36 AM

With respect to those on the other side, I seriously doubt that there will be another Pacific Theater sub simulation.

The Grey Wolves fan boys will see to that.

The only way I'll buy SH5 is if I can command RN or US destroyers to sink U-Boats.

klcarroll

08-18-2009, 05:24 AM

I normally do not copy entire posts in quote form;

....BUT EVERYONE HERE SHOULD READ THIS ONE AGAIN!!!!!

Celeon has stated the basic truth here more clearly than I have every heard it phrased!!!

I absolutely agree here.

Just look what happened to the sim genre in the last 15 years. It became almost completely extinct.

Other genres rule the show now. Be happy that there are still a few sims out there at all.

Fact is that SH-III was only made because people bought SH-II, also fact is that SH-IV was only made because people bought SH-III.

Silent Hunter has survived as it still has a fanbase big enough to be profitable.

You dont like SH-V and dont buy it because the theater doesnt fit your preferences ?

Ok, your choice, but then you will have to live with the fact that with that you just did your part to support the market analyzers who keep on suggesting :

"Oh lets kill off this Silent Hunter sim thing completely.

It did not sell as much as Rip The Taliban Guts Out 2.

We could maximize our profit with putting the money into a super cool 1st shooter in which kids can kill iraqi insurgents with a super detailed realistic assault rifle that is as close to the real thing as possible.

IN SLOW-MO ! Thats what the kids want !"

Thats the harsh reality most people still havent understood. This is not like "i dont like that 1st person shooter so i'll take one of the twenty others that will come out soon".

There are no twenty other subsims.

There never will be. Instead there will be just one or two and the best and in fact only thing you can do to keep the sub sim genre alive is to buy those games.

You want a Pacific Theater Silent Hunter 6 ?
You want a Pacific/Atlantic does it all Silent Hunter game ?
You want a Destroyer Command 2 ?

Then buy SH-V and THEN you can tell UBI what you would like to have next time.

Otherwise you dont need to tell it to them at all.

Thats the deal we have to live with.

We will get a fully accessible sub as enough of us bought SH-III and SH-IV and joined the choir singing "We want a completely accessible sub please ! That we would be so cool !"

Buy SH-V and tell UBI that you would love to have the next game to offer fleetboats and uboats in one. And eventually we all might just get that.

Its the most logical thing anyway. People will buy because of the uboats, people will buy because of the fleetboats and people will buy because of both. How could you reach more costumers with your product ?

See it that way ,with buying SH-V you dont just spend your money on a sub sim, you also invest into the future of subsims !

@Celeon: ...EXCELLENT analysis!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

......And you had all better give some thought to this!

So what if Uboats aren't your absolute favorite?? .....If you wait three months after the initial release, the price will be down to $29.95, and you can buy it as a Christmas present for your cousin!

Is a one-time expenditure of $29 really too much to spend to ensure that our preferred genre stays alive???

.....Because Celeon is absolutely right! ....If SH5 fails to sell, UBI will conclude that "the well has run dry", and move on to other things!

And then you will NEVER get the SH6 that has what YOU want!!!!!

Now all I have to do is figure out how to re-create The Ruptured Duck under SH5!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

klcarroll

p.s. .....And by the way; ...I do "practice what I preach"! Even though I didn't get what I wanted in SH4, ....I did buy a copy!

KLC

Mittelwaechter

08-18-2009, 06:22 AM

Consumers of our dreams!

If they want to have a horse let them buy a donkey and tell them next time they'll probably get a horse. Well - a clever salesman offers a mule first and emphasizes the advantages over the donkey.
And they'll allways find supporters to justify this business concept.

"Do not buy to get what you want! Buy to support the businessman!"

I see stupid people! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (no offence intended!)

With every purchase we make we vote for the kind of world we want to live in.

-

klcarroll

08-18-2009, 06:37 AM

I see stupid people! (no offence intended!)

Gee, ......isn't that odd!! ...Because an offense was definately taken!

klcarroll

Mittelwaechter

08-18-2009, 06:50 AM

How can I change your sorrow into joy?

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfEPvebGGJM http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Celeon999

08-18-2009, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by Mittelwaechter:
Consumers of our dreams!

If they want to have a horse let them buy a donkey and tell them next time they'll probably get a horse. Well - a clever salesman offers a mule first and emphasizes the advantages over the donkey.
And they'll allways find supporters to justify this business concept.

"Do not buy to get what you want! Buy to support the businessman!"

I see stupid people! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif (no offence intended!)

With every purchase we make we vote for the kind of world we want to live in.

-

I can only once again stress : We are in need of transportation and UBI is the only one selling the horses we want to ride.

You would be right if UBI would sell horses for a living.

But they do not and there are no other horse traders around.

They like horses too, that why the sell them but not that much that they could not shelve this horse trading and switch to maybe better selling motorcycles anytime the circumstances demand them too.

If you still think you are in a position to cherry pick order a white horse while rejecting the available black ones which UBI wants to get out because of the majority demand .....the only one who might walk in the end is you and UBI might simply never sell any horse again as it left the business because of too low overall horse demand.

Then you can feel proud ....and walk ....or buy a motorcycle. But a horse....black or white...forget it ...they joint the list of extincted species.

UBI did not thin out the sim genre in a secret plan to rip people off.

The majority in the pool of players did by moving on to other things leaving us enthusiasts in a unfavourable position.

Unless you can convince the others to come back...... you need to make concessions to keep the horse trade alive at all for as long as you need to form a white horse lobby that is big enough to make UBI get one for you.

But for that to happen, the trade must still be going on by tomorrow or the horse might be extinced by the day you have your lobby union together !

Socko2008

08-18-2009, 07:45 AM

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q84/klcarroll/SockodiscussesMittlewacker.jpg

Mittelwaechter

08-18-2009, 08:13 AM

@ Socko2008

Thanks for your comment.

What does the postcount and the function of someone has to do with his view?

@ Celeon

Who serves who?

The only horsedealer is making big money with selling horses - otherwise he wouldn't do so.
If we want to have white horses and he insists in selling black ones we should simply refuse to buy them and tell him what we want to pay for. THAT'S how market works.

If we start to buy stuff that suits us to only 75% we'll have to buy 50% stuff soon.

Celeon999

08-18-2009, 08:15 AM

UBI thinks "Uboats sell" so much is clear.

The best thing to do is to convince them that we want uboats and fleetboats in one game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

It should not be hard to convince them that the broadest possible costumer group can be reached with such a game.

Afterall, SH-IV sold well enough to spawn a SH-V so it definitely did not sold badly. Maybe just a bit less in numbers than SH-III.

We would be happy with that, ubisoft's market analyzer nerds would he happy with that (as they still can predict "Uboats in it = $$$" combined with a "Uboats and Fleetboats =more features - bigger game = more potential costumers = even more $$$"

klcarroll

08-18-2009, 08:30 AM

What does the postcount and the function of someone has to do with his view?

Both imply experience: .....And only fools fail to take that into account when engaging in a debate.

klcarroll

Celeon999

08-18-2009, 09:03 AM

It also means that i will win something expensive when i reach 10.000 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Right ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

It doesnt have to be a Veyron....... a Silent Hunter branded Koenigsegg is perfectly enough ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://top-10-list.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/koenigsegg-ccx.jpg

@ Mittelwaechter

Lets agree to disagree http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Ducimus_Rapax

08-18-2009, 09:22 AM

You dont like SH-V and dont buy it because the theater doesnt fit your preferences ?

Ok, your choice, but then you will have to live with the fact that with that you just did your part to support the market analyzers who keep on suggesting :

"Oh lets kill off this Silent Hunter sim thing completely.

The thing is, this logic can be applied to the likely demise any new PTO games. When SH4 was announced, the first thing that happened was the most vocal amongst uboat fanboys were spouting out their disgust and hatred for an american submarine sim in the pacific. I remember that quite "fondly" i might add.

Over time you have a number of people who would not buy SH4 because it was not atlantic uboats. You can't kick a can near subsim.com and not hit a bunch of em in the knees. If forum activity is any indicator, only when Ubi announced a uboat add on did a these people get interested. In sum, i feel SH5 isn't coming about because everyone in their good graces bought Sh4 to support the series. I feel SH5 is coming about because the uboat addon salvaged enough sales due to theater preference, and im quite sure when ubi analyzied their sales figures they came to the conclusion that if they expected to make the most profit, any notion of the PTO game should probably be abandoned. Anyway, it is what it is, and i accept that.

Mittelwaechter

08-18-2009, 09:34 AM

@ Celeon

Word!

btw: here (http://www.games-news.de/go/silent_hunter_5_erscheint_anfang_2010/646984/silent_hunter_5_erscheint_anfang_2010.html?url=%2F nl%2Fsilent_hunter_5_ubisoft_kuendigt_fortsetzung_ fuer_2010_an%2F646962%2Fsilent_hunter_5_ubisoft_ku endigt_fortsetzung_fuer_2010_an.html%3Furl%3D%252F ) is an interview with Dan Dimitrescu, Silent Hunter 5 Lead Designer (only in German - sorry folks!)

@ klcarroll

Experience in posting and being a moderator doesn't protect against 'wrong conclusion' by default.

Please accept my formal apology for my comment - or for let you misinterpret my comment - on stupidity.
I tried to mark it as "kind'a fun".

You know the quote "I see dead people!" from "The Sixth Sense"?
My social environment changed it into "I see stupid people" to annotate any kind of error.
It's a running gag for me.
(not only for me: http://www.zazzle.co.uk/i+see+stupid+people+gifts)

That's all behind.

Peace?

@ Ducimus_Rapax

No way they plan a PTO expansion pack like they probably did in SH4 with the ATO?

ElAurens

08-18-2009, 09:41 AM

UBI will never do another Pacific sim.

Of this you can be sure.

abbysinthe

08-18-2009, 09:54 AM

I am excited.

SH4 was a nice halftime show.

Mittelwaechter

08-18-2009, 09:56 AM

Ok, ElAurens,

let's send a bottle of the best regional beer to each other for being wrong with our expectations?

And let's focus on the "SH PTO for PC" instead of "another Pacific sim"?

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Maverick_U2007

08-18-2009, 10:04 AM

About 5 months ago I bought HAWX and due to the multitiude of bugs that were in the game I vowed I would never buy another Ubisoft title again....I honestly didn't believe they would release another Silent Hunter.

BUT they are going to and I thank UBI for it.

The mere fact that they have stayed loyal to the Silent Hunter series is not only good for the Sub-Sim community in general, but also good for this forum.

Just picture it....

The game will probably come out bugged to hell, not a criticism just a fact....

This forum will go balistic with the posts that will follow it's release with praises and complaints.

The 'modders' amngst us will have fixes up and running within days and will have mods ready within weeks.

The 'serious modders' will be working on 'super mods' and we will all again wait for them with baited breath.

Will it be good....

Of course it f..kin will!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shut up moaning!!!! Silent Hunter 5 is on the way and new breath will breath into this forum. No longer will the Screenshot of the month be the most important thing, no more mention of the ghost ship....go check the forum and see what was the most interesting read you are having at the moment...the number of Flat Tops that the US navy had when the war ended...sorry but so what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Silent Hunter 5 is on the way and when it has arrived, buy it and then come on and sing it's praises or bemoan the fact that it's not in the Pacific....who gives a toss...

Silent Hunter 5 will breath new life into this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!

BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maverick

RockinRobbins

08-18-2009, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by Celeon999:
UBI thinks "Uboats sell" so much is clear.

The best thing to do is to convince them that we want uboats and fleetboats in one game. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

OUCH!!! No more combination U-Boat/fleet boat Frankenstein monsters. Twice the sims is at least 50% more profits, as many of us would buy both sims.

Why should we be forced to listen to German in a fleet boat or English in a U-Boat unless we choose to? Why should we not have metric units in U-Boats and imperial units in fleet boats? Why should we be forced to share ANY parameters between U-Boats and fleet boats? There wasn't a single identical part between the two.

Let's have the two best simulators that they can produce. If they want to sell them in combination for a discounted price, as well as separately at full price, all the better. Ubi needs to think about maximizing profits from our little smelly backwater of the computer gaming world.

On the other hand, I will not support a company producing what I don't want, even if they are the only supplier. If they aren't around to suck all the oxygen out of the air, there will be room for someone better to live. I respond poorly to blackmail. I am not a fanboi.

I pay for what I want and don't settle for something I don't. The quantity of my money is always less than the available items I would be totally happy with. Wasting it on bad products to support bad companies is the height of foolishness. With every new submarine simulator, Ubi establishes again whether it deserves to survive in the simulator field. If they don't deserve to live, off with their heads.http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/RockinRobbins13/smileys/piratey.gif

There's no game to buy yet. If it's a great game, by all means buy it. If it isn't then it would be foolish to learn that at your own expense.

That's what fanbois are for: to pay the economic cost of failure. And frankly, being an early adopter is fun, win or lose. I'm just going to take a game off and go into watchful waiting mode for this one.

But if the game is no good, I just won't buy it. Economic entities abhor a vacuum. If you need change, sometimes you have to create that vacuum.

andy3536

08-18-2009, 10:29 AM

Wow, announce a game and people turn into children.

I'm certainly going to buy it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Can't see the sence in making another fleet boat game when the last one was just that.
Can't wait to see this running properly with some decent gameplay footage.

propain999

08-18-2009, 11:10 AM

Oh HELL no!

Not again UBI. SH4 sucked. SH5 in the same era will suck. Sorry, not this time.

BTW if its anything like the trailer HELL NO. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif What a horrid trailer. Time for a new engine UBI.

J.L.Chamberlain

08-18-2009, 11:22 AM

Like I said earlier, STOP ****ING COMPLAINING IF YOU DON'T ****ING LIKE IT DON'T BUY IT.

propain999

08-18-2009, 11:25 AM

Its called an opinion. I believe people are entitled to them. If you don’t like the opinions, then ignore them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

uniquewave

08-18-2009, 11:30 AM

Like this game or not does anyone know when it will be available in stores? My internet connection is too slow to search all the forums for the answer.

When did they stop publishing SH4? I can't find it in stores anywhere. It seems like it was only on the shelves for a few months. I was playing SH3 when it came out and now I will have to buy it online i guess.

Maverick_U2007

08-18-2009, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by propain999:
Oh HELL no!

Not again UBI. SH4 sucked. SH5 in the same era will suck. Sorry, not this time.

BTW if its anything like the trailer HELL NO. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif What a horrid trailer. Time for a new engine UBI.

If SH4 sucked WTF are you doing on a SH4 forum...

Maverick

Celeon999

08-18-2009, 01:04 PM

More screenshots

A bit smaller though

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9194/sh51.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9328/sh52.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5266/sh53.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2172/sh55.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3132/sh54.jpg

J.L.Chamberlain

08-18-2009, 01:09 PM

**** that is awsome looking like the interiors and the people look better as well.

Celeon999

08-18-2009, 01:13 PM

Hmmmmm so far only type VII screenshots. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

J.L.Chamberlain

08-18-2009, 01:14 PM

Where do you get your SS I would like to bookmark it so I don't have to keep looking around here.

J.L.Chamberlain

08-18-2009, 01:19 PM

It also looks like they finally fixed what the inside of a VII looks like.

Celeon999

08-18-2009, 01:42 PM

Ive got them from some gamesmag website ive found via a google search. Dont have the link anymore.

But ive found a Silent Hunter 5 interview with Dan Dimitrescu , Lead Designer of SH-5

Here is my translation :

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Gamesmag : Why does the campaign take place on the side of the germans again ?</span>

Dan : We have improved our technology and can now realize things we couldn't do before. It actually doesnt matter if you command a sub of the allies or the germans - we for one love all these subs !

But as went to sea with the u.s fleet in the last game we decided that its time go back to the uboats and give them a whole new look.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Gamesmag : Please tell us about the most important things regarding the dynamic campaign.</span>

Dan : The new campaign progresses through important happenings. It is dynamical and directly changes in relation to the actions taken by the player aswell as the results of these actions.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Gamesmag : How much influence do the players actions have on the outcome of the war ?</span>

Dan : About as much influence as the sinking of the SS Ohio by italian submarine Axum would have had on the mediterranean theatre.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Gamesmag : How do the players get introduced to the high realism of the simulation ?</span>

Dan : As always, the level of realism and technical complexity can be adjusted to the preferences of the individual player.

If the manual launching of torpedoes should be too complex for the player, he can choose to deactivate this option. If he wants a realitic update of the map or limitations on the external camera he can check the respective boxes in the realism menu.

The biggest step that we have taken in relation to accessibility is a completely new control interface which makes the game understandable even for unexperienced players. The new system has a clearer structure and also offers tutorials.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Gamesmag : How detailed will the simulation be ?</span>

Dan : Silent Hunter is a simulation and we will not change anything on that. It lies too much at our hearts for that. You can, for instance, expect the sensors of the enemies to function much better.

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Gamesmag : How does the game work in 1st person perspective ? Will the uboat be completely accessible ?</span>

Dan : We call it ego-perspective as it indeed comes very close to modern role playing games. The player can interact with objects and crewmembers while walking from stern to bow of the uboat which, by the way, was recreated with much love for details.

Because of the grade of interaction with the interface being so high, the player can move the mouse cursor on the screen at all times, actually along with movement aboard. (Im not sure what he means by that. It isnt clear in german either)

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Gamesmag : Which uboats will be playable ?</span>

Dan : Mostly, the player will command the uboat types II, VII and IX. For a complete list of playable uboats you will have to be patient.

J.L.Chamberlain

08-18-2009, 01:48 PM

Cool I now I have something to think about.

klcarroll

08-18-2009, 02:18 PM

Four months before SH4 was released, I started my crusade to get the Narwhal Class included; .....And we all know how THAT initiative worked out! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

So, .....Since we are at least five months away from the actual release of SH5; .....I will make it official: UBI MUST include a TypeIID in SH5!!! (....Specifically a "Ruptured Duck" variant!)

Now, ....people are free to support me in this quest, ....or not: ....It is entirely up to them! ...I would never suspend anyone or delete their posts just because they didn't support my personal crusade! ....I would never abuse a Moderator's power like that! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

......But you know how Socko can be! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

klcarroll

ElAurens

08-18-2009, 02:47 PM

I'm pushing for a Tribal Class DD.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

henriksultan

08-18-2009, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Celeon999:
But ive found a Silent Hunter 5 interview with Dan Dimitrescu , Lead Designer of SH-5

That's a great find thanks for sharing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Looking forward to be able to walk inside the sub, immersion is the name of the game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

jimbuna

08-18-2009, 03:18 PM

I hope the rash on the end of the cooks nose clears up before the release.......or I won't be sampling any of that stew/soup http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/scream.gif

Pacific_Ace

08-18-2009, 05:29 PM

I love the fact we will be able to influence the war. I would have been happy to not have to sink the Nelson over and over and over...although it was good for my renown. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

dgrayson

08-18-2009, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by Ducimus_Rapax:
Hopefully i'll have found a new hobby by then.

I already have a new hobby, she arrived last Monday. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z107/davegrayson/Sonett/Leftside.jpg

Y'all enjoy SHV. I'll be thinking of you as I tool down the highway. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

@Ducimus, Now you know what I did with the extra compensation.
Dave

ElAurens

08-18-2009, 06:17 PM

A Sonnet III.

Always wanted one, except for that damned free wheeling transmission.

Enjoy!

dgrayson

08-18-2009, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by ElAurens:
A Sonnet III.

Always wanted one, except for that damned free wheeling transmission.

Enjoy!

Thank you.

This is my fifth in a series. This little cutie is a ’73 with 37,363 miles on the clock.

In most Sonetts the free wheeling has been disabled. The US Govt. mandated that and there was a recall. All the free wheel gears were welded so as to not operate. On those that escaped the recall you have a lever that locks or enables it.

Dave

tambor198

08-18-2009, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by dgrayson:
I already have a new hobby, she arrived last Monday. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z107/davegrayson/Sonett/Leftside.jpg

Nice lookin car ya got there, buddy. Must be nice to be rich. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Ducimus_Rapax

08-18-2009, 07:57 PM

Nice car dave! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I do have a new hobby as i speak though. It's called, ehh..... " a girlfriend". Finally got rid of my batschitt crazy, alcoholic, druggie ex, spend a good 7 months single and met this gal who i have so much in common with, we practically finish each others sentences or thoughts. Its really weird. I have a strong suspicion that this one i end up marrying. Needless to say, my time modding has all but evaporated. I'll be lucky to wrap up and publish TMO 1.8, and frankly, don't care if i ever do or not. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Wolferz

08-18-2009, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by Ducimus_Rapax:
Nice car dave! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I do have a new hobby as i speak though. It's called, ehh..... " a girlfriend". Finally got rid of my batschitt crazy, alcoholic, druggie ex, spend a good 7 months single and met this gal who i have so much in common with, we practically finish each others sentences or thoughts. Its really weird. I have a strong suspicion that this one i end up marrying. Needless to say, my time modding has all but evaporated. I'll be lucky to wrap up and publish TMO 1.8, and frankly, don't care if i ever do or not. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

It is said that "We do more for love than we do for logic"
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

uniquewave

08-18-2009, 08:55 PM

Whats with that bench that the guys operating the dive planes are sitting on? That isnt in SH3 but i did see that in Das Boot.

Great. Judging by the textures in the screenshots I will be purchasing a new PC in the next Year. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif It will be out with the old then.

pacific_breeze

08-19-2009, 02:17 AM

I'm referring to the conversations before this page .. my goodness, most of the time I see someone create the thread to talk about SH5, it turned to be a heat of conversations. That was the time when we didn't have conclusion when SH5 would be released.

Now the SH5 is official and will be released, I thought people would be happy for the new experience and I'm dead wrong, the heat of conversations are getting 10 times worse than the previous SH5 threads.

The game is not even out yet so what happen when it is out? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

@Celeon
Your good intention to let people know about SH5 has turned pretty hot here, get yourself out through the back door buddy before this thread become a place of brawl .. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://foolstown.com/sm/out.gif http://foolstown.com/sm/kar.gif http://foolstown.com/sm/box.gif
http://foolstown.com/sm/daz.gif

No .. wait .. perhaps you can do something about it ... what was that cool stuff you showed the other day? I'm sure your bunker has some cool stuff to make this thread self destroyed .. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

pacific_breeze

08-19-2009, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by Celeon999:
More screenshots

A bit smaller though

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9194/sh51.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9328/sh52.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5266/sh53.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2172/sh55.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3132/sh54.jpg

AWESOME BIG TIME !!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I love the new graphic of the water foam that splash in the bow. That is very realistic and I should say much much better than SH4.

The graphic of those crew just 10 times better than SH4 too .. I can't wait to buy it.

I'm wondering what video card is the minimum for it. I'm going to buy ATI 4850 soon .. I hope it is good enough.

Needless to say, my time modding has all but evaporated. I'll be lucky to wrap up and publish TMO 1.8, and frankly, don't care if i ever do or not. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Oh nooo .. UBI will lose the chance to recruit SH "Developer"

Good on ya Ducimus http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Love conquer everything http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jimbuna

08-19-2009, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by pacific_breeze:
I'm referring to the conversations before this page .. my goodness, most of the time I see someone create the thread to talk about SH5, it turned to be a heat of conversations. That was the time when we didn't have conclusion when SH5 would be released.

Now the SH5 is official and will be released, I thought people would be happy for the new experience and I'm dead wrong, the heat of conversations are getting 10 times worse than the previous SH5 threads.

The game is not even out yet so what happen when it is out? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

I don't think it's anything like as bad as it used to be.

The current position as I see it:

The last Ubi release was PTO.

As far as I'm aware the sales figures were disappointing but did pick up a little with the introduction of the U-boat addon.

The next/present release of SH5 is obviously going to be ATO, based perhaps on the upturn in sales after the SH4 U-boat addon.

Why release a further PTO version when the last release was based on that very theatre and did not meet the expectations of the company or generate the hoped for profits?

I'm guessing Ubi will await the sales figures for SH5 and should sufficient profit be forthcoming I would expect a PTO addon....similar, but in the opposite order of developments we witnessed in SH4.

Celeon999

08-19-2009, 04:35 AM

I dont think that SH-IV sold that badly.

Last thing ive read was that UBI made another 200 of the Collectors Edition Boxes as all 3000 were sold but demand was still there.

*Proud owner of box number 467* http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

jimbuna

08-19-2009, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by Celeon999:
I dont think that SH-IV sold that badly.

Last thing ive read was that UBI made another 200 of the Collectors Edition Boxes as all 3000 were sold but demand was still there.

*Proud owner of box number 467* http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

It is estimated that the SH series has sold 1.5 million copies in total between the 4 releases.

I'm confident you'd agree with me when I say that there would not be an equal division between all titles, namely, there would be differing levels of popularity.

Looking at the figures your quoting and realising they won't be the sum total for SH4 sales I would be very interested in seeing a release by release breakdown of the 1.5 million.

AVGWarhawk

08-19-2009, 08:40 AM

Jim is correct. The ATO theater really draws the crowds. There are numerous factors as to why this is. But you know what, does it really matter that SH5 is ATO? Well, no. SH4 does not shut down when you load SH5 on your hard drive. Many went to SH4 and brushed SH3 off their hard drive. Many stayed with SH3 because the SH3 was ATO. The theater they enjoy. The same will happen here. Many will stay with SH4 and not mess with SH5 only because it is SH5 is the ATO. People will continue with SH3 for sure. Either way, the simulation continues with improved graphics and added things the community wants.

J.L.Chamberlain

08-19-2009, 07:34 PM

I hope it will let us take part in the battle of Convoys HX-229 and SC-122.

jimbuna

08-20-2009, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by J.L.Chamberlain:
I hope it will let us take part in the battle of Convoys HX-229 and SC-122.

The largest convoy battle of the conflict.....that would really be something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convoys_HX_229/SC_122

The Battle of the Atlantic turned sharply in favour of the Allies a month or two later.

RockinRobbins

08-20-2009, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by jimbuna:
I'm guessing Ubi will await the sales figures for SH5 and should sufficient profit be forthcoming I would expect a PTO addon....similar, but in the opposite order of developments we witnessed in SH4.

First of all it's appropriate what SH5 be U-Boats just for the fact that Ubi's SH3 installer checks operating system version and refuses to install into Vista without external workaround. That and the fact that SH3 wasn't up to the graphics standard (I think it IS up to the gameplay standard) of SH4 makes it almost a lock that SH5 must be U-Boats.

But comparing sales of SH4 and SH3, making decisions based only on relative sales is a dog that won't hunt. After all, what compared to SH3? It was flat out revolutionary, bringing features and realism never imagined to a starving submarine simulation community. OF COURSE there was a feeding frenzy. There was also a huge amount of curiosity about this upstart Romanian dev team who was going to show up the Americans. Did they EVER! Everybody loves the underdog.

SH4 was evolutionary, a small step forward from SH3. If you already owned SH3 you didn't have the imperative to purchase SH4 that you had with SH3 because you already owned a great sub sim. The first shot into the ammunition ship got the bigger bang.

But why should Ubi waste their time with another $10 add-on? Wouldn't they learn their lesson from this time and realize that shared parameters lead to big problems? I don't think SH4 U-Boats measured up to SH3 U-Boats at all because they were saddled with fleet boat characteristics. Almost no SH3 modders made the jump to help out. That's a big clue as to whether the U-Boats were a worthwhile addition.

Why would Ubi settle for part of $10 when they can get part of a full price co-equal game? Why have one income stream when you can have two for little extra effort? It would mean perhaps 50% more profits for Ubi, as many who purchased SH5 would also buy SH6 as I own both SH3 and SH4.

As soon as I see coordinated wolfpacks, SH5 will be mine if the computer upgrade doesn't cost too much. Those are compelling screenshots! Hope I don't have to upgrade my computer too much. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

jimbuna

08-20-2009, 07:16 AM

Whichever or whatever way Ubi go in the post SH5 release era we can be sure of one thing, it will be based on a commercial/busines decision.

Whether it be a PTO addon for $10-$20 (my own personal belief) or an entirely separate release....it is imperative that both theatres have the same level of detail and quality wherever possible.

That IMHO is the only fair and equitable way forward for the sub simming community as a whole.

Celeon999

08-20-2009, 07:54 AM

Ok, as it is highly likely that there will be another Collectors Edition, i wonder what you would like it to offer ?

A recognition manual is the most obvious idea so i will mention that right away.

The one which came with the SH-IV Collectors Edition was very disappointing for two reasons.

1. The isometric picture of the ships.

Recognition manuals did not look like this.

They usually offered two or three perspectives of a ship's contours and not a photo nor a isometric one.

For obvious reasons, because if there was one perspective in which a sub commander definitely never saw a ship or ANYTHING through his periscope ... it was this one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I had constant troubles identifying ships a greater distances with this useless perspective as only reference.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5400/manual001.jpg

2. The length, width etc. informations were given in meters in my manual. I take it that in other countries the manual had the imperial system ?

As i used the imperial system for realism purposes, the manual became finally completely useless to me. Who wants to constantly convert stuff ?

So i'll suggest that for a possible recognition manual for SH-V , these two things should be improved.

What do you think would be cool beside a recognition manual ? Only realistic suggestion please http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jimbuna

08-20-2009, 08:16 AM

I fully agree on the manual....I never rated mine either.

I'd like to see a small enamel cap badge ie:

A laughing swordfish or an eidelweiss.

e575fho

08-20-2009, 09:46 AM

I am looking forward to Silent Hunter 5 so long as we can have an option to change the language spoken by the crew to German(with sub titles). How many U boat crews spoke in English with an American accent! C'mon get real http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

henriksultan

08-20-2009, 01:10 PM

Moore of those sweet pictures http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Looking very nice, going to be interesting to try this out next year.

Som-Iride-Duval

08-20-2009, 01:35 PM

Hello everyone

1)Did I want to know Sh V it will support' the multyplayer?
2)Will you have' the whole possibility' to command united' of surface?
3)Its possible use surf units versus sub how in Sh2 ?

I ask myself, but nobody is worried of intelligence To Ai?
nobody question of the multyplayer?
nobody question of I use myself of the surface ships ?
nobody question if there are the manual rudders ?
They said that they are the main parts of a simulator.
I see that here the commander only worries of graphics, for me the comander ask to cook if ready the paste !!!
But nobody plays here in multyplayer?

Duval

Mix-Martes86

08-20-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Celeon999:
Ive got them from some gamesmag website ive found via a google search. Dont have the link anymore.

But ive found a Silent Hunter 5 interview with Dan Dimitrescu , Lead Designer of SH-5

[...]

Googling around, I found this:
http://www.cynamite.de/pc/news...sten_u_boot_sim.html (http://www.cynamite.de/pc/news/more/silent_hunter_5_erste_infos_und_bilder_der_neueste n_u_boot_sim/19625/silent_hunter_5_erste_infos_und_bilder_der_neueste n_u_boot_sim.html)

Probably is what you refer to.

Cheers

walkirie

08-20-2009, 02:21 PM

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif I can't wait to buy it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Mittelwaechter

08-20-2009, 05:31 PM

http://a.imagehost.org/0683/0820new800x500.jpg

http://a.imagehost.org/0835/0820newa800x500.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Messervy

08-20-2009, 07:15 PM

I see they like Narvik campaign very much... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

J.L.Chamberlain

08-20-2009, 09:48 PM

Look at that terrain.

Liddabit

08-20-2009, 10:18 PM

Its like looking at some of the WW2 in color pictures almost :O

Celeon999

08-20-2009, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by Mix-Martes86:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Celeon999:
Ive got them from some gamesmag website ive found via a google search. Dont have the link anymore.

But ive found a Silent Hunter 5 interview with Dan Dimitrescu , Lead Designer of SH-5

[...]

Googling around, I found this:
http://www.cynamite.de/pc/news...sten_u_boot_sim.html (http://www.cynamite.de/pc/news/more/silent_hunter_5_erste_infos_und_bilder_der_neueste n_u_boot_sim/19625/silent_hunter_5_erste_infos_und_bilder_der_neueste n_u_boot_sim.html)

Probably is what you refer to.

Cheers </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes its the same interview, at least the same questions but the answers are slighty different in some aspects http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif. The website was also a different one. Maybe they've edited the answers a bit to make them shorter ? Propably it was made in english and what i saw was just a different version of translation.

@ Mittelwaechter

New screenshots http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif I was looking for some but did not find these yesterday

Is that ice on the ships ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

I want the boats to ice up aswell http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Mittelwaechter

08-21-2009, 02:32 AM

I think it's ice and I'd love to see it on my U-Boot either. I slightly photoshopped some of the screens to have a little bit more colour.

http://a.imagehost.org/0893/0820new800x500.jpg

http://a.imagehost.org/0337/0820newa800x500.jpg

Didn't you find the link to the interview on page 7 of this thread? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

You may want to read this too: link (http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/101/1016321p1.html).

Celeon999

08-21-2009, 06:03 AM

This means we can even climb into the boat without any scene switch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Thats exactly what i once suggested http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif ....... Does this mean....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

The devs actually read our posts ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif Or just coincidence ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

pacific_breeze

08-21-2009, 09:00 AM

@Celeon

A German linguistic question .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What is the gender of word "Unterseebootsflotille"? Das? Der? or Die?

I assume Das Unterseebootsflotille the same like Das Boot. Am I right?

Celeon999

08-21-2009, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by pacific_breeze:
@Celeon

A German linguistic question .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What is the gender of word "Unterseebootsflotille"? Das? Der? or Die?

I assume Das Unterseebootsflotille the same like Das Boot. Am I right?

Nope, its Die.

For some mysterious reason the universe decided that the word flotille shall be treated as being of female gender in german. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

pacific_breeze

08-21-2009, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by Celeon999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pacific_breeze:
@Celeon

A German linguistic question .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What is the gender of word "Unterseebootsflotille"? Das? Der? or Die?

I assume Das Unterseebootsflotille the same like Das Boot. Am I right?

Nope, its Die.

For some mysterious reason the universe decided that the word flotille shall be treated as being of female gender in german. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ahhh I see .. thanks Celeon .. glad that I asked first as I wasn't sure .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

jimbuna

08-21-2009, 10:17 AM

You've just gotta love the ice on those boats http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

Kaleun1961

08-21-2009, 11:50 AM

Kaleun1961

08-21-2009, 11:58 AM

The one big "must have" for me is realistically functioning wolf packs. By that I mean that a pack can form as a result of your contact reports or that you can hunt a convoy reported by another boat. More interaction with BdU would also be appreciated. I'll break my radio if I get another "Be more aggressive!" message again. I really do not wish to fight WW2 all over again by myself.

klcarroll

08-21-2009, 12:34 PM

@K61;

Very good points!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Klcarroll

Mix-Martes86

08-21-2009, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by Celeon999:
For some mysterious reason the universe decided that the word flotille shall be treated as being of female gender in german. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

It's also female in Spanish. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Celeon999

08-21-2009, 01:02 PM

@Mix-Martes86

Im glad to hear that the spanish language also incorporates the linguistic and cultural achievement of issuing genders to things.

A achievement of which it seems that the english language never recognized its value. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Wolfpacks , definitely http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Enemy AI subs would also be cool.
I think GWX showed that encountering enemy subs can be a cool thing. Problem was and is that its somehow unchallenging that they are not capable of surprise attacking you as you do with them.

Giving them a AI capable of lurking near a harbour and attacking the player's boat (just like british subs did in the Bay of Biscay) could create some great "near death" experiences http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

On the other hand, back in the SH-III times i remember the devs saying that they left them out intentionally as they would lead to "instant death" situations which may frustrate players.

SH-2 had a cool historical single mission in which you had a duel with a british sub.

I dont remember the details of the historical background but the mission description said that both subs tried to ram each other after the british torpedo attack on two surfaced uboats missed its target.

The whole thing ended up with one of the uboats having escaped while the other one having a subsurface duel in shallow water with the british sub ending in succesfully ramming it.

Both subs were heavily damaged but made it back home.

Liddabit

08-21-2009, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by Celeon999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pacific_breeze:
@Celeon

A German linguistic question .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

What is the gender of word "Unterseebootsflotille"? Das? Der? or Die?

I assume Das Unterseebootsflotille the same like Das Boot. Am I right?

Nope, its Die.

For some mysterious reason the universe decided that the word flotille shall be treated as being of female gender in german. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I blame the Brandenburg gate statue. Just mentally picture the horses as waves, and the chariot as a IIA bridge! IIIiiiieeeee!!! The first uboat captainess!

klcarroll

08-21-2009, 01:45 PM

I blame the Brandenburg gate statue. Just mentally picture the horses as waves, and the chariot as a IIA bridge! IIIiiiieeeee!!! The first uboat captainess!

Liddabit; ......You have my COMPLETE support!!

klcarroll

GoldenEagle8

08-21-2009, 10:24 PM

No no NO! I still can't run Silent Hunter 4...
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

MarkSynthesis

08-23-2009, 11:56 AM

Sorry if I'm bringing up this again...but whilst being able to move through the boat is amazing...is there any word of submarine-to-submarine combat? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

jimbuna

08-23-2009, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by MarkSynthesis:
Sorry if I'm bringing up this again...but whilst being able to move through the boat is amazing...is there any word of submarine-to-submarine combat? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Nothing as yet but it's very early days, I'm sure more information will be posted shortly.

Kaleun1961

08-23-2009, 01:57 PM

Good observation, Jimbuna. It is still early days, so I think that whilst we are excited about this announcement, we shouldn't forget that the final release will most likely be very different from the early concept. A good deal of what was initially promised didn't make it through to the final cut of SH3. I'm happy that this series will continue, but I'm not going to lose any sleep between now and its release to market. I merely wish that when it is released, that some, most or all of the major beefs have been taken care of and that the structure of the game remains open to community modding, without counting upon the modders to finish the work that the developers should do themselves. In the meantime, I hope this thread continues on a positive note and that SH5 is so successful that we get an SH6 so we can all be happy. Or maybe we'll see Pacific boats as a properly done addon to SH5? If we continue to contribute good ideas in this discussion, perhaps the devs will read them and take note of them.

J5_Lehmann

08-30-2009, 07:35 AM

I gotta say....

... that the particulate effects for the bow-splashes are fracking SEXY as hell!!!

Damn fine job SH devs!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Hoatee

08-31-2009, 10:21 AM

For some strange reason, I thought the u-boat expansion pack to SH4 would at least allow the possibility of a duel between a German and USA submarine - both contenders being human, {of course. Sad, but not true.}

Silent_Stu

09-01-2009, 02:49 AM

"Silent Hunter V" is coming soon. I have had many fun hours evading destroyers, torpedos, and, at the same time, learning geography, geometry and strategy. When "SSI"(R) first released "Silent Hunter" for "Windows 95"(R)- I bought it and, all the additional versions plus, "The Commanders Edition". I own ONE Sim/Game "Wolves of the Pacific" - SH-IV. I have never played online with an opponant. I didn't purchase SH-III. It may be silly however, firing a simulated torpedo at a ship flying my country's flag was too much. "Silent Hunter V" is to be "U-Boats" again? Someone help me here. I'll wait, patience is my thing ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Liddabit

09-01-2009, 01:05 PM

I dreamed I was Kaleunifying a VIIC last night and even when I was screaming orders to turn the driver of the boat somehow got us trapped in a modern suburban neighborhood with no water to be seen. I had to manually drive us out, and there was somehow a window in the boat so I could see. I remember pressing a + key near the steering to make the boat go faster http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif It was weird...

but now I really want to play SH5 :X Without the weird neighborhood part.

klcarroll

09-01-2009, 01:16 PM

@Liddabit;

That's kinda scary!! .....Particularly when one realizes that you don't even have the excuse that you are haunted by Socko!!!

(.....Although it is not entirely clear where Sockette has been over the last couple of weeks! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif)

klcarroll

Kaleun1961

09-01-2009, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Liddabit:
I dreamed I was Kaleunifying a VIIC last night and even when I was screaming orders to turn the driver of the boat somehow got us trapped in a modern suburban neighborhood with no water to be seen. I had to manually drive us out, and there was somehow a window in the boat so I could see. I remember pressing a + key near the steering to make the boat go faster http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif It was weird...

but now I really want to play SH5 :X Without the weird neighborhood part.

Sounds like you were the officer in that Stingray Bay commercial who wanted to return the sub back to Minsk.

Buster_Dee

09-01-2009, 09:15 PM

Though I like the ATO, some things about the trailer strike me odd. It seems a bit too "role playing" even though I normally like the immersion that would offer. It all has a certain "console" look. Also, if the interior is a type 7, it's too jumbled for my tastes. I waste alot of time trying to learn 3D modeling myself, and you can't help picking up such details over time (as you research). In RL, the captain's quarters in the 7 are very nearly across the radio room. It looks like everything in the trailer is put on the port side to open up the passage way. Looks like one of my hobbies is killing the other one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Subsim

01-20-2010, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Celeon999:

So my assumption is that SH-V might be just that.

And as i doubt that Subsim's infos are more than just hearsay, i will not yet take it as a fact that SH-V is simply a new SH-III until the Gamescom may tell me that.

What has Gamescom told you lately? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

quote:
Originally posted by Maverick_U2007:
Not in any way undermining what our friends at Subsim suggest but..

They suggest that PT Boats Knights of the sea is in the Beta stage. If you look at the official website for that game it has not been updated since April 2008.

Maverick

Released 5 months after your post .... But you are right, that sim was pretty hard to judge the status, they started over and changed schedule several times.

PS: Don't ya hate people who dig up old threads to play gotcha? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif