Accuracy

[LtColHoward_505]

Anybody getting annoyed with the accuracy of the weapons in BiA? I like the game just fine, but I'm a ww2 reenactor, and I've also particiapted in life fire events.....and I know how to zero my rifle and get it aimed properly....even shooting milspec ammo, I'm more accurate than the game. I would think the soldiers in ww2 had their sights dialed in properly, and were able to hit the ppl they shot at...right? ;-)

Ya'lls thoughts?

~Howard (AKA: Mellish)
30thID, 120Reg.

[SgtGarand]

I had aiming issues at first when I started but Ive gotten use to them and its no problem for me now. I guess you just have to get use to it.

You say your a reenactor...cool me two. Though not as much as I like...My History teacher took me and two of my friends several times....he does the German Sterm Pioneers and thats who we do as well cause thats the only gear we have access too. Its fun but I still want to be part of the Screamin Eagles http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I have a Garand,ammo belt, bayonet, and canteen so far.I might get a cheap service grade M1 from the CMP to use for the reenactments so I wont worry about the wear and tear on the accuraccy.
But, Who do you reenact?

[Basher66]

Fish/Jimmy/Mellish
Quit complainging, d*mn replace http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifment


Narlie Choble

[BabyEater1337]

I agree. However, I like it fore gameplay, especially in multiplayer. It really drags out the firefights and gives them more momentum and a sense of accomplishment when you win one. Especially since BiA is the only game i've ever played where I came away from a firefight (online) practically sweating.

[dmc3_dmckilla6]

i dont mean to sound rude but how long have you been a war reenacter or how long have you been shooting guns because my grandfather always talks to me about WWII and his little adventures but the first thing he told me was some companys had no chance because they were amatures they had not been shooting guns for there whole life but i think the reason that they made it that way was to maybe show that some times even if you think you aim perfect your not always going to hit your target

[Keela1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LtColHoward_505:
Anybody getting annoyed with the accuracy of the weapons in BiA? I like the game just fine, but I'm a ww2 reenactor, and I've also particiapted in life fire events.....and I know how to zero my rifle and get it aimed properly....even shooting milspec ammo, I'm more accurate than the game. I would think the soldiers in ww2 had their sights dialed in properly, and were able to hit the ppl they shot at...right? ;-)

Ya'lls thoughts?

~Howard (AKA: Mellish)
30thID, 120Reg. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[xFTWx]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LtColHoward_505:
Anybody getting annoyed with the accuracy of the weapons in BiA? I like the game just fine, but I'm a ww2 reenactor, and I've also particiapted in life fire events.....and I know how to zero my rifle and get it aimed properly....even shooting milspec ammo, I'm more accurate than the game. I would think the soldiers in ww2 had their sights dialed in properly, and were able to hit the ppl they shot at...right? ;-)

Ya'lls thoughts?

~Howard (AKA: Mellish)
30thID, 120Reg. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wasnt around for world war II, but own a polish 7mm mauser (handed down), and the drop on that thing is unreal, I used it a few times to hunt deer, and theres no sighting in for long shots, it has a flipup site and you gotta judge your distance.

IMHO, the ammo probably wasnt great in them days either (by the time it got to its destination).

I think the developers did an excellant job of bringing realism to the game (interesting first person), and at the same time I sure wouldnt hesitate to download a mod that would improve the accuracy of the weapons...X

[ernunnos]

I'm annoyed as hell. I can shoot Expert with my M1A. The only way this is realistic is we assume the folks back home weren't buying enough war bonds and the government couldn't afford to put rifling in the barrels of the Garands these guys are using.

[LtColHoward_505]

I reenact the 30th Infantry Division, based outa North Carolina.

I realize you wont always hit what you aim at (I've done enough hunting to know that), but I would think 2 clips at a stationary target would drop somebody. I realize that there are many factors that can reduce your accuracy, greenness, ammo, barrels, combat conditions themselves, and I'm in no way complaining (::cough:: NOBLE ::cough:http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, but I personally feel that the weapons were a shade too inaccurate.

Just wanted to know what others felt.

[Ustuf_Hannemann]

SS-Pzjg. Abt. 9 (http://www.sspanzerjaeger.org)

[Ustuf_Hannemann]

I am also a WWII re-enactor and own a class III MP-40. I think that they must have found a mint example to test for the game. I think mine is accurate in the neighborhood of about 65 yards when I live fired it at the range. The Germans in the single player appear to get about 200 yards out of theirs. The MP-40 bolt visibly cycles too unlike in the game.

As an Axis re-enactor I have noticed they are still afraid to use the proper insignia in the WSS Panzergrenadiers as with CoD. So much for BiA being a really authentic WWII shooter. Can we stop the politically correct madness for the sake of authenticity for once? I also noticed that on one of the dead Fallschirmjaegers that he was kitted out with a WSS oak pattern Zeltbahn. That could have happened but it would have been doubtful as the Fallschies usually were well equipped with their own splinter pattern camo.

I really like the game (SP) it is a nice change from CoD and is much better in some aspects of authenticity compared to CoD and MoH.

[calvin227]

its not the accuracy in the game that makes it like that, its the hitboxes. shots do not register very well right now so im hopin they will fix that and put it in a new patch

[SgtGarand]

Another thing i noticed was that i heard that the German STG-44 was introduced later in the war...but you see it on "buying the farm" and other levels like Carentan, but thats only dated a couple days after D-Day.

[blachwk]

I do ww2 reenacting as well on a few dif forms.. I am in a 101st airborne 502nd group as well as on the ww2 airborne demonstration team. So besides reenacting I do really jump for c47s in ww2 gear, uniform, etc.. the team jumped at normandy, holland bastone in 2004.

I am webmaster of our unit's website mentioned on another thread someplace by the moderator:
www.airborne101st.com (http://www.airborne101st.com) , anyone interested in joining can email the contacts, based out of IL, WI area.. also anyone interested in the demonstration team the website is www.wwiiadt.com (http://www.wwiiadt.com)

[maxlitwin]

wow, that's really cool! i'd love to do some reenacting myself, but between college, work and ultimate fribee, i don't have the time or money. as for the accuracy, i've only fired a Garand 1 time, and it was my first time shooting any gun. needless to say, i wasn't a great shot, but i was still better than this game. but i wasn't in a fire fight, and i hadn't been running around with gear either. i'm no expert, and i haven't spent much time researching the subject, but my grandfather used to say that the first thing he had to teach replacements, (he was a squad leader) was to "shoot at them weather you can see them or not!" that said, i believe that the weapon accuracy in this game, weather puposefully or not, serves the purpose of making the shooters fire for effect and of prolonging the firefights.

[Pops13s]

First, I love the game, but...

As far as the accuracy goes, I find that if I use the aiming recticle, and place the bottom verticle line on the target I'll hit it. I assume they are trying to simulate bullet drop. That's fine, but what's the drop from 10 feet away? Also, if you want to "aim down the gun" you can't because you'd have to aim over the targets head, there by blocking out the target with the rifle.

My other beef is no prone and no leaning?

Here is what the ubi site says about this game:

Brothers In Arms will immerse players in the historic eight-day invasion of Normandy - with unparalleled imagery, authenticity, sound, and gameplay

Real military tactics:

Revolutionary AI system: Allies and enemies use the standard operating procedures of fire and maneuver to flank and kill their foes.

Unprecedented authenticity: Historically accurate and detailed battlefields, events, and equipment re-created from Army Signal Corps photos, aerial reconnaissance imagery, and eyewitness accounts

If Ubi is going to market this game based on authenticity and tactics, then they better put lean and prone in the next version or patch.

What sniper would ever shoot from a standing position? They'd be prone, elimates the sway. What soldier would ever step out from behind cover to shoot? They'd lean or die.

Since BIA is built on the FarCry engine which has prone and lean, why isn't it in BIA?

It wouldn't bother me so much if they hadn't marketed the game so strongly on it's "Unprecedented authenticity". But since they did, they should allow me the basics of any infantry man, prone and lean.

<stepping of soap box, talk amongst yourselfs>