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Skoshi Tiger
02-10-2011, 02:00 AM
When looking at the Unishop order page for Cliffs of dover there's an option for "Extended Download Service: $12.00"

Does anyone know what this is?

It'ld take the price up to $101.95AUD for the downloaded version.

With the cost that their asking it would take a bit of nerve to charge more for a faster download!

Cheers!

RSS-Martin
02-10-2011, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by Skoshi Tiger:
When looking at the Unishop order page for Cliffs of dover there's an option for "Extended Download Service: $12.00"

Does anyone know what this is?

It'ld take the price up to $101.95AUD for the downloaded version.

With the cost that their asking it would take a bit of nerve to charge more for a faster download!

Cheers!
Who knows the cheaper version might then have this when trying to activate it? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif
Keep a Knockin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYr7I4gOSXk)

Skoshi Tiger
02-10-2011, 02:49 AM
lol, You never know!

Troll2k
02-10-2011, 05:36 AM
From the Ubishop store:
"What is the Extended Download Service (EDS)?

EDS essentially allows you to download your purchase again for up to two (2) years, in the event your computer crashes or the downloaded file becomes damaged or corrupt. It can be thought of as an insurance policy in case anything goes wrong with your computer or the downloaded product. When you have downloadable items in your order, you will see a link to add EDS to your order on the shopping cart page or the checkout page. Upon payment of the specified fee, Digital River, Inc. ("DR") agrees to provide you (the "End User") a service that enables the End User to make multiple downloads of digital computer software products (a "Product" or "Products") purchased in a single order (an "Order") and downloaded from this Web site (the "Site") for a period of two (2) years after the date the End User purchases the Product (the "Service"). Click here for full details about EDS.

To purchase EDS for download products in a completed order, you must look up your order and complete an additional purchase.

More questions? Back to Main Help Page"

http://gc.digitalriver.com/sto..._US-OrderInformation (http://gc.digitalriver.com/store/ubina/ContentTheme/pbPage.en_US-OrderInformation)

Ba5tard5word
02-10-2011, 09:30 AM
I thought we had 5 "activations" then "one a month" available?

Statler86
02-10-2011, 11:08 AM
I guess I don't fully understand what this service is offering. Just above the EDS description on the help page is "How can I re-download software that I have already purchased?" EDS seems like a more wordy way of doing the same thing. I must be missing something.

My only online download purchases have been through Blizzard and Steam, both of which keep track of all games I've purchased and let me download them and activate whenever I want.

Skoshi Tiger
02-10-2011, 04:39 PM
This download caper is sounding worse every time I look into it deeper.

So I buy a licence for Cliffs of Dover and the company does not supply with the product on any physical media, They allow me to down load the sim for a short period and then will charge me full price for the sim if I download it out side that period?

That is really bad! I do not like that idea.

When is the game going onto steam?

AUS_Wolf_Rider
02-10-2011, 07:36 PM
eh? wot's wrong with just burning the download to disc, like the purchaser should be able to do anyway? (need I ask? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif has UBI buggered this up too?)

*edit: It looks like they may have...

What is a BackUp CD?
A BackUp CD is an additional service we offer for downloaded products. BackUp CD allows you to purchase a physical version of your downloaded software and is purchased from within the shopping cart. You can only purchase a BackUp CD for a download product you purchase. BackUp CD can not be purchased as a stand-alone product.
If you want to purchase a BackUp CD for the downloaded products in a completed order, you must look up your order and complete an additional purchase.

More questions? Back to Main Help Page

http://gc.digitalriver.com/sto...OrderInformation#q13 (http://gc.digitalriver.com/store/ubiemea/ContentTheme/pbPage.en_AU-OrderInformation#q13)



Hopefully the ED doesn't mean one download only and that's it, unless more money is forked out to guarantee storage and listing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

M_Gunz
02-10-2011, 09:19 PM
You can download one set of files that will allow you to reinstall and -then- there's the 5 activations? LOL, use up those 5 in less than 2 years and your 'extended service' is just what good?
This is beginning to look like a shell game. The bean counters have found something people want and they're playing games where the money goes in and maybe you keep what you get and maybe you pay again to play again.

IF your get one set of download files AND IF you want to ensure you have a good copy THEN there is a way to do that on your own. First you make a RAR file set of the full download using WinRAR. Then you make a PAR file set (error check and correct data set) using QuickPAR of perhaps 20% which is big. Then you burn all those files with a copy of WinRAR and QuickPAR to multiple backup DVD's (don't keep them all in one building), fill the DVD with multiple folders of the same full set and for good measure upload the set to a private file space.

When you reassemble the files, first you run QuickPAR that checks for error and can recover corrupt bits as large as the PAR set. Then you run WinRAR to assemble your checked and corrected download. Unless the entire DVD is scratched, etc, the chances are with many copies of those files on the disc you can get enough to build a good set.

The RAR and PAR method has been used for over 10 years now (QuickPAR has been improved in that time and can do the whole job but I stick with what I know works) for downloads off Usenet servers where not all the files may be on the server by the time you get there in addition to bits corrupted in transmission and yet people regularly pull down 100M to 9G file sets with little if any problem. It's a great way to keep backups that every IT person should know.

Ba5tard5word
02-10-2011, 09:32 PM
I'm not seeing anything about this on the US Ubi store.

AUS_Wolf_Rider
02-10-2011, 11:57 PM
Gunz, the activation process is totally different to the ED system. It is two seperate arrangements

M_Gunz
02-11-2011, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by AUS_Wolf_Rider:
Gunz, the activation process is totally different to the ED system. It is two seperate arrangements

Yeah that's why I wrote "and -then-".

AUS_Wolf_Rider
02-11-2011, 01:42 AM
FMD...typically one would download the relevant files to a folder on the computer and run the install from there. Meaning, if you really wanted to, you could use all 5 activations (uninstall/ reinstall) in the first day.. however you would have to wait a month before you could activate again.
Doing as you say or burning to disc as a backup (if possible) or taking advantage of the hardcopy option offered by UBI would negate the need for re-downloading, if all is well. The ED just means that there is a two year guarantee of the files being available for re-downloading. (hopefully)

if it is however, a one shot only download, then that is very wrong.

M_Gunz
02-11-2011, 02:46 AM
If you can download a set of files (may be a set of one) and use that to install then sure you can back it up yourself.

The thing about making PAR files is that if your backup gets a scratch or blotch, you still have a good chance of restoring the original. Filling a DVD with copies gives an even better chance of recovery. More than one DVD raises that and storing a copy on space from Yahoo or Gmail should take it close to 100% (gotta leave some chance of WWIII wiping them all out!).

I re-read the activation thing and it's much better than I thought. 5 up front then 1 a month with no limit mentioned, I feel better already!

Skoshi Tiger
02-11-2011, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by M_Gunz:
I re-read the activation thing and it's much better than I thought. 5 up front then 1 a month with no limit mentioned, I feel better already!

Thats sounding much better.

I've already had to send a polite email to DCS to get more activations for my Black Shark install. Sometimes when things are going funny on the PC theres not really an opportunity to deactivate the programs.

Cheers!

AUS_Wolf_Rider
02-12-2011, 12:24 AM
you only have to de-activate when moving to another computer (such as a new one)/ reinstalling your OP.SYS., or changing out some components. Otherwise you can uninstall and reinstall to your heart's content if you are on the same machine with DCS method, as far as I understand.

JG52Uther
02-12-2011, 12:58 PM
Hang on...
So if I get the D/L version,I can't just burn it to a disc,and if I ever need to D/L it again i have to BUY an EDS off UBI?
That is so far off the scale of 'loony' it just ain't gonna happen! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
That just made my mind up,its the disc for me,and as cheap as possible.

M_Gunz
02-12-2011, 01:37 PM
How do you get that?

JG52Uther
02-12-2011, 01:41 PM
I buy it from Amazon or Play..http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

M_Gunz
02-12-2011, 07:17 PM
There was mention of downloading file(s) and installing from those and then 5 activations +plus+ one per month. I can back up any files on my PC about 6 different ways, it's the activations I need to be online with UBI or whatever service (remember Boonty? hope it's not those bozos!) handles that part.

Still I have had a good experience with Mount&Blade:Warband but that was only after an Amazon screwup (got my money back after wasting over 4 hours) and finding another non-Steam service that gave the one thing I needed, the activation key. Amazon acted as a 4th party for me, forced me to re-download what I already had (the demo is the full game, what do you need? Activation key!) and then you get the key at the end and... it didn't work! People using Steam had similar problems and up on TaleWorlds site there's fixes that only took 'a while' (I'd say "two weeks" but it's not IL2!) to be available.