Are lunges a trainwreck for anyone else?

[Alnark]

Dang!

For some reason, the most basic move of a single lunge has serious problems being tracked for me in this game. I can get 100% on one side, then under 60% immediately after on the other side.

Forget the back and forth lunge altogether!

[AuntieParticle]

I don't experience any difficulty being tracked on lunges. I do recall getting out of rhythm at first with the side lunges and the side to side lunges. But I discovered two things: 1) start with a wider stance 2) don't come up too high when coming out of the lunge. That helped me a lot.

I have also noticed that when I start a new routine that one side will receive a higher percentage score at first. This is because I tend to be stronger on the one side, most people are. After a time of really working at it the score evens out and I can do just as well on both sides.

[cakemaster1973]

I have the same problem. I do okay going to the right, but it doesn't recognize them at all to the left. It keeps saying I'm out of rhythm. I watch the trainer and match her moves exactly and it doesn't help. I've tried moving forward/backward in the "box". I've also tried lunging lower/higher and that doesn't do anything either.

[Spectra_FD]

I had a hard time scoring well on my lunges when I first started the game. I was failing big time.

It helped when I spread my legs farther apart. This made them a bit easier to do and it increased my score.

It took a while before I was able to do all the reps. I still hate lunges but I just keep thinking "its for a good cause, it's for a good cause" over and over. That helps too. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[foosifur]

I'm just curious if anyone can confirm with certainty that scoring a low % means you don't move forward with your routine in the cardio/toning/sculpting series. Because I can confirm with 100% certainty that your % does not affect your calorie count, which means a lot of people should worry a lot less about the overall scoring.

(my test was just to stand there and watch the calories. I think it was actually during lunges that I stood still and the calorie counter went from 22 to 26 and my score was 6% for that exercise)

Also, still working on updating my YSFE Wiki (http://yourshapefitnessevolved.wikia.com/wiki/Your_Shape_Fitness_Evolved_Wiki) and welcoming updates/comments/suggestions

[Spectra_FD]

Originally posted by foosifur:
I'm just curious if anyone can confirm with certainty that scoring a low % means you don't move forward with your routine in the cardio/toning/sculpting series. Because I can confirm with 100% certainty that your % does not affect your calorie count, which means a lot of people should worry a lot less about the overall scoring.

(my test was just to stand there and watch the calories. I think it was actually during lunges that I stood still and the calorie counter went from 22 to 26 and my score was 6% for that exercise)

Also, still working on updating my YSFE Wiki (http://yourshapefitnessevolved.wikia.com/wiki/Your_Shape_Fitness_Evolved_Wiki) and welcoming updates/comments/suggestions

I believe the cardio/toning/sculpting series requires you to get better at doing the moves before it will introduce new ones. I thought I read somewhere here on the forums that a Husband and Wife were doing the same routines but she is getting new moves and he is not. He seemed to think it was because her scores were better.

[AuntieParticle]

Originally posted by foosifur:
I'm just curious if anyone can confirm with certainty that scoring a low % means you don't move forward with your routine in the cardio/toning/sculpting series. Because I can confirm with 100% certainty that your % does not affect your calorie count, which means a lot of people should worry a lot less about the overall scoring.

(my test was just to stand there and watch the calories. I think it was actually during lunges that I stood still and the calorie counter went from 22 to 26 and my score was 6% for that exercise)

Also, still working on updating my YSFE Wiki (http://yourshapefitnessevolved.wikia.com/wiki/Your_Shape_Fitness_Evolved_Wiki) and welcoming updates/comments/suggestions

I do believe there is a relationship between doing well on the exercises and the calorie count. That doesn't meant you won't get any calories if you get a low score, or as in your test do nothing at all. But my calorie count is always higher when my percentages are higher. For example I am getting a higher calorie count in the Bollywood Dancing now that I have sorted out what I was doing wrong with the Jaanu Step.

I am saying this only for the sake of accuracy on your Wiki. I do agree that if someone is doing the best they can they should not obsess over their percentage scores. I feel they are there as something to move toward and not something to expect all at once. They are for motivation, they are not for measuring the accuracy of the sensor. I tend to get high scores NOW because I have been working at it long and hard. And when I mention them it is mostly to emphasis that the game is working - under my particular set of conditions which are: very good lighting but smaller then optional play space - and that high percentage scores are indeed possible.

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[foosifur]

Thanks NanoParticle for the info. I suppose I will put it through some more testing but my only two concrete observations at this moment have been that I was getting 4-5 calories per lunge during the NIVEA workout that has 3 consecutive routines of 3 lunges each, and as I said when I stopped during the 5th lunge set I still got 4 calories despite my 6% for that exercise. Maybe the modifier is not as straight forward as max calories x % but something more forgiving. I also get either 56 or 57 calories for the arm workout and just assumed that was rounding but I'll play a little more and see if anything turns up.

[foosifur]

Trying to be diligent with my follow-up.

I did the cardio boxing silver part 1 since it was a nice straight forward 4 minute workout. I stood in place and ended up getting a 6% overall and registering 10 calories burned. Then I did it for real, got 100% and registered 29 calories burned. So there you go, it definitely makes a difference, I'm just not sure why I get 10 calories just for standing there!

And just so it's clear, I'm not knocking YSFE which I'm enjoying as a workout program. I am just trying to understand it better overall because I feel like a lot about what it does behind the scenes is a mystery.

[AuntieParticle]

Well, standing does burn more calories than sitting http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

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[bfcarter]

Lunges have been difficult for me to score consistently on too. Despite being told to lunge lower, I found that if I didn't lunge lower, I'd score better. I tried watching the trainer and matching my head movement to hers more than anything else. A diagonal head movement seems to work well for the single leg lunge. Very flat and horizontal movement for the side-to-side lunge. Then, try to make the rest of your body do lunges that fit your head. I have to say, I wasn't expecting to "play" an exercise game, but figuring out tricks like this seems to help on the score. Not sure it's good exercising, though. I guess anything is better than nothing, right?

[keithabbott]

The only lunge I'm having problems with is the one in the platinum cardio boxing so far. One side will not register at all. I've tried everything I can think of. I can get 100% on one side but the other side always misses.

[CliffS2]

1) I can confirm that you CAN unlock a new level in Cardio even if you get a very low score in a particular exercise. Today I unlocked Cardio 1.3 despite getting mostly 0-2% on "tap side tap back", and getting around 47% overall in that session. Most of the other sessions in Cardio 1.2 I could do fine. I can speculate that lower scores slow the rate at which you get unlocks, but I can positively confirm that they will not stop them.

2) I have not tracked it clearly to confirm for certain. But I really don't think that calorie counts are directly correlated to scores. I could be totally wrong... but I actually think that they might really have something to do with the amount of movement that the controller sees. I am fairly sure that I have gotten pretty much the same calorie count on two sessions (identical) sessions with different scores. But this is another instance where the game opaque and the documentation is insufficient, which leads to wild speculation.

[Rabid_Maggot]

Originally posted by Alnark:
Dang!

For some reason, the most basic move of a single lunge has serious problems being tracked for me in this game. I can get 100% on one side, then under 60% immediately after on the other side.

Forget the back and forth lunge altogether! At first I was having problems keeping in rhythm (not just the lunges but almost everything) but I read in a review that when you wear baggy clothes it has a harder time reading your body movements...so I started working out in my boxers instead of a t-shirt and sweats. My percentage did increase. If you wear clothes that are tight fitting it will read your movements just that much better. worked for me!

[Jase D Dakota]

I've been having a terrible time getting the game to really track my left leg. Lunges seem to have the worst of it. I have my main light source coming from the left and even when I turn that off it still seems to have trouble keeping me in sync with the trainer, even though on screen I seem to be spot on.

So you're all saying it's most likely just my bodyshape/other parts of my body aren't doing it right? My body is...well..big...which is why I got this game to start losing weight, but I'm kind of oddly shaped, would that be part of the problem?

When I do leg curls, it always picks up my right leg fine, but when I go to my left is when I get out of sync. I wear sweatpants and nothing baggy. I'm just worried it might be my Kinect or my room set up. I don't seem to have my problems with other games.

Thanks for any help or advice.

[foosifur]

@JaseDakota I can't figure it out either. Your lighting source isn't the problem because the image they draw from is the infrared (I usually play in the dark so I'm pretty confident about this). Even during the same routine this morning I went from 100% on side lunges to 64%. Tried leaning forward, changing my foot position, then just said screw it and did what I knew was right.

Earlier in this thread I brought up getting 0% on a whole workout vs. 100% and the calorie difference. From another conversation I added a variable of doing jumping jacks the entire time. Turns out I burned more calories than the normal workout while still getting 0%. Doing 4 minutes of jumping jacks also felt a lot harder, so I'll give them credit for some correlation.

So if there's one thing I think players should try to internalize is that if they're getting close to good form, or feel comfortable with their form, the game is going to give you the calorie credit and you're going to get a good workout. Someone else brought up that you will still progress in the routines even with low scores (I haven't tried this out myself) so basically if both are true then there's no penalty for the game not tracking you perfectly. Ignore is and feel the burn!

I hope that helps and good luck.

[AuntieParticle]

I made and interesting discovery over the weekend that may be helpful. I usually don't have very much trouble with one side not doing as well as the other (exception noted below) but I was doing the cardio boxing class over the weekend and my right side punches were not registering as they normally do. I was a bit annoyed and perplexed by this so I had a close look at the Kinect. I noticed that it had been pivoted ever so slightly, possibly during dusting or by being inadvertently touched. After I realigned it perfectly parallel with the shelf on which it sits the problem went away.

Exception: when I first start an exercise in which my right leg is naturally somewhat stronger and more coordinated then my left it takes a few times doing the exercise before my performance even out on both legs.