Haze for 360? PLEEAASSEE? [Archive]

TU16

12-07-2007, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by TeamNightmare:
lollulz if te3h xbox had tis'game it wuld taaak leik 29180347 discs to play lolz!!oone11

From what I've seen so far, I highly doubt Haze is using that much disc space. Even the venerable Crysis is only 6.04GB and easily fits onto a single, regular DVD. And, I should mention that Haze and Crysis seem to be roughly equal in terms of content offered and that Crysis definitely uses higher resolution textures (and, believe me, higher resolution textures make a huge difference as far as size goes- just doubling the texture size can more than quadruple the file size for each texture).

Edit to reply to Zeffer:
UT3 never got canceled for the 360... just delayed. Anyway, the PC was the lead platform for UT3, and I haven't heard anything about it coming in two discs as opposed to one. MGS4 is the only PS3 game I have heard of that supposedly taps into Blu-Ray's increased storage capacity.

XyZspineZyX

12-07-2007, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Zeffer:
Yeah lol, that is why a lot of games are originally for both consoles but then get cancelled on the 360 because of the CD size and the poor CPU. Games like Haze, UT3, MGS4... and a lot of others.

This is false http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Now lets not see another thread arguing over which console is best please, i am sure you can all live together in perfect harmony as they say and respect each others platform choice without resorting to ridicule every single time to subject comes up http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dubbedinenglish

12-07-2007, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by TU16:

MGS4 is the only PS3 game I have heard of that supposedly taps into Blu-Ray's increased storage capacity.

Not true: Resistance weighs in at 14gb's, Lair at 25gb, Heavenly Sword at 25, Uncharted Drakes Fortune at 25, Ratchet and Clank 25...Not to mention ID softwares project on their new engine will be two discs for every platform...except PS3.

Also Killzone 2's build of 1 level inhabits 2 gigs of disk space.

Rokashi

12-07-2007, 06:02 PM

maybe later

brooklyn468a1

12-08-2007, 09:18 AM

i hope they dont because 360 has every freaking game. They dont need any more games, and this games graphix are way too good for a 360. I think it would be total **** if there was haze for 360.

TU16

12-08-2007, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by brooklyn468a1:
i hope they dont because 360 has every freaking game. They dont need any more games, and this games graphix are way too good for a 360. I think it would be total **** if there was haze for 360.

Um... you sound jealous. Btw, do you have anything against Haze coming out for the PC?

Zeffer

12-08-2007, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by TU16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by brooklyn468a1:
i hope they dont because 360 has every freaking game. They dont need any more games, and this games graphix are way too good for a 360. I think it would be total **** if there was haze for 360.

Um... you sound jealous. Btw, do you have anything against Haze coming out for the PC? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Lol, it'd be cool if it did. Also, I don't hate the 360 at all, I love playing games like Gears of War and Halo, I'm just saying that it has a smaller disc size.

NDDONS09

12-08-2007, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by brooklyn468a1:
i hope they dont because 360 has every freaking game. They dont need any more games, and this games graphix are way too good for a 360. I think it would be total **** if there was haze for 360.
yea it would suck no it...and it would prolly be like 2/3 the game lol

Rasomaso

12-09-2007, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by NDDONS09:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by brooklyn468a1:
i hope they dont because 360 has every freaking game. They dont need any more games, and this games graphix are way too good for a 360. I think it would be total **** if there was haze for 360.
yea it would suck no it...and it would prolly be like 2/3 the game lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No it wouldn't. Read my first post. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Originally posted by TeamNightmare:
lollulz if te3h xbox had tis'game it wuld taaak leik 29180347 discs to play lolz!!oone11
This guy is ******ed or he thinks that's cool. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

tmk1980

12-09-2007, 05:27 AM

just bring it to the 360 donst matter how use more then one disc it dont matter just bring please http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TU16

12-09-2007, 06:27 AM

From what I have seen, I would just be very, very surprised if Haze had enough content to fill more than one disc, especially given that Crysis does not even do that.

MOGALDO

12-09-2007, 06:51 AM

I'm sorry i'm afraid it's not going to happen!

TU16

12-09-2007, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by MOGALDO:
I'm sorry i'm afraid it's not going to happen!
Uhuh... why not?

Rokashi

12-09-2007, 09:08 AM

c'mon guys xbox has been out for over a year before ps3 and you guys have alot of games to look forward to on the other hand ps3 is still a baby and we need our own exclusives too..i think it would be fair if haze only came out for ps3 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

deded999

12-09-2007, 09:34 AM

Ubisoft and Free Radical are companies who exist to make money for profit and to pay their employees, who of course include the directors, producers, writers, programmers, artists and other staff that bring you their games. If they don't get paid they don't make more games, for any format.

They may or may not bring Haze to other formats, (although the fact that Haze was originally announced for three formats should tell you something), but I would hope any Free Rad, Haze or Timesplitters fans wouldn't begrudge them getting the maximum amount of return on their hard work. Having Haze as a PS3 exclusive, even if only timed, shows a much greater level of support for the format than many other developers, or publishers for that matter.

sublimeboy245

12-09-2007, 10:54 AM

ppl need to stop complaining about whether or not xbox is gonna get haze or not. if they get it they get it w.e. we're just gonna have to fight a little strong(not so much in a waring sense) just keep your head up and deal with it. but you can't really help but feel that some amazing is coming, better then MGS4 believe or not, and i have no idea what it mite be, but its there. mark my words

(btw im a ps3 OWNER...not to be confused with fanboy, thank yous)

Rokashi

12-09-2007, 10:59 AM

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Zoryu

12-09-2007, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by deded999:
Ubisoft and Free Radical are companies who exist to make money for profit and to pay their employees, who of course include the directors, producers, writers, programmers, artists and other staff that bring you their games. If they don't get paid they don't make more games, for any format.

They may or may not bring Haze to other formats, (although the fact that Haze was originally announced for three formats should tell you something), but I would hope any Free Rad, Haze or Timesplitters fans wouldn't begrudge them getting the maximum amount of return on their hard work. Having Haze as a PS3 exclusive, even if only timed, shows a much greater level of support for the format than many other developers, or publishers for that matter.

I agree. And it would only be right, this would be really good for the PS3. 360 has like Mass Effect, Halo 1/2/3, and other good game's. Although i'm not a Halo fan anymore.

xbradx

12-09-2007, 03:31 PM

multiplatform games are kind of lame these days. The quality just isn't there. Like Halo what makes halo is that its only on 360, what makes MGS4 is that its only on PS3. Cod4 was amazing but the quality or legacy isnt there.

Rokashi

12-09-2007, 03:42 PM

wow everyone seems to be right on the ball today

TU16

12-09-2007, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by Rokashi:
wow everyone seems to be right on the ball today

Or off their rocker.

deded999

12-09-2007, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by xbradx:
Cod4 was amazing but the quality or legacy isnt there.

Huh? Do you mean COD4 is amazing but still lacking in quality? Or are you talking about multi-plats in general?

multiplatform games are kind of lame these days. The quality just isn't there. Like Halo what makes halo is that its only on 360, what makes MGS4 is that its only on PS3.

So if Halo ended up on PS3 or MGS4 on 360 neither game would be as good? What about Bioshock - is that poorer for being multi-platform? Or perhaps the best game of the last generation, Resident Evil 4? If you mean that titles that are designed for specific platforms can take the strengths of that platform I'd agree with you, but you can't paint all multi-platform games as lacking quality.

mornelithe

12-10-2007, 07:43 AM

Actually, you're wrong Deded, I think 90% of gamers at this point in the newest console wars lifecycle, can expect (at least from the PS3 end) a worthless, lazy, and half-assed port to the PS3, every single time. I will no longer buy anything that's multi-platform, where dev started on PC or 360. Just not going to do it. Furthermore, I will be most likely obtaining any and all of these games through other means, which involve no money going to either developer or publisher. If they're not going to take the time to make a game correctly. Then, i'm not going to take the time to drive to the store and honor them for their 'hard' work.

Tavitzu

12-10-2007, 09:31 AM

I agree, i bouth a ****load of games for my ps3, half where multiplatform , some actualy nice like call of duty 4 and asasins creed(didnt get any problems,but it's a bit booring, to repetitve),but the other games i had to sell em at a very low price just so i can aford geting some new actualy good ones(since I'm still in highschool , i don't have a job http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)
Hope Haze stays exclusive couse it will be a great game since they can concentrate on only the ps3

P.S sorry for my english(not my natal language, and im newhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

JJDZX

12-10-2007, 10:01 AM

well i doubt it will come out on 360 or PC. Sony probably made them sign a contract of exclusivity. anyways if it does go 360 i dont care ill just be playin Killzone 2 while 360 owners wait for haze and ive already grown tire of it.

deded999

12-10-2007, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by mornelithe:
Actually, you're wrong Deded, I think 90% of gamers at this point in the newest console wars lifecycle, can expect (at least from the PS3 end) a worthless, lazy, and half-assed port to the PS3

I don't disagree with that necessarily, except that isn't what I said, and it isn't every time, (although it's the majority of the time I'll grant you). It isn't all that surprising though considering the set of circumstances that permeate the start of this current generation. I await - and expect, although am likely to be disappointed /looks at Capcom/ - this practice to largely cease this year.

I will no longer buy anything that's multi-platform, where dev started on PC or 360. Just not going to do it. Furthermore, I will be most likely obtaining any and all of these games through other means, which involve no money going to either developer or publisher. If they're not going to take the time to make a game correctly. Then, i'm not going to take the time to drive to the store and honor them for their 'hard' work.

Fair enough. And if developers produce a 'port' that is of the same quality as the PC/360 version, (as some already are)? What then?

mornelithe

12-10-2007, 10:35 AM

I'd buy it most likely, but lots has to change before that becomes the norm, as opposed to the anomoly.

Rasomaso

12-10-2007, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by xbradx:
multiplatform games are kind of lame these days. The quality just isn't there. Like Halo what makes halo is that its only on 360, what makes MGS4 is that its only on PS3. Cod4 was amazing but the quality or legacy isnt there.
I don't agree. Depends on the developer and how it's developed (port/separately)!

mornelithe

12-10-2007, 12:28 PM

Pretty much every game that's been ported to the PS3 has been lackluster, and flawed. Assassin's Creed had freezing issues and screen tearing problems, so did Timeshift, so did Stranglehold, so did Need for Speed Carbon, so did Fight Night 3, and to some degree the Darkness, hell, I even saw some in Ninja Gaiden Sigma. The only games that I've seen that perform absolutely perfect, are exclusives. I'll let you know how Unreal Tournament 3 is tomorrow, cause I finished my pre-payment today w00t.

TU16

12-10-2007, 12:36 PM

To expect anything out of Timeshift was a mistake- it was horrible enough on the PC (played the demo).

Anyway, the topic of discussion here is Haze, and the fact of the matter is this- how would Haze's existence on consoles other than the PS3 detract from the PS3 version?

Fyi, this has been mentioned numerous times, but people seem to forget- when Haze was/is in multiplat dev, it had/has three teams practicing parallel development. What does that mean? It means no platform gets a port.

mornelithe

12-10-2007, 01:03 PM

Yes, Haze is different in this regard because it is 3 different dev teams. However, Haze is an anomoly, not the norm.

deded999

12-10-2007, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by mornelithe:
Yes, Haze is different in this regard because it is 3 different dev teams. However, Haze is an anomoly, not the norm.

Well, the 'norm' is that most games are repetitive, sequel-based garbage that aren't worth the disks they're written on - that doesn't mean all games are worthless though. It's the exceptions that really matter, not the norm, in any media. I really don't think the situation is hugely different than it's been in previous generations TBH.

mornelithe

12-11-2007, 06:48 AM

You're talking game substance though Deded, I'm actually talking how it was programmed/developed. And lately, the developement side has been ****. Very very few developers have shown us product that really shows that they care about the entire user base, not just making money. All the games I mentioned earlier, regardless of length, could've been alot more fun to play, had it not been for shoddy programming/work ethics etc... As such, I'm not going to contribute to developers who work in such ways. In fact, I'll work against them.

Morne

necronzero

12-11-2007, 08:17 AM

IF haze comes to the 360, i wont buy it on ps3 NOR on 360, ill hate Free Radical forever if this happens, and DONT get me wrong, im no fanboy,

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1527/img001ly7.jpg

but i also want some exclusives for the war to be more interesting.

mornelithe

12-11-2007, 10:22 AM

Sometimes there are more important things at hand than what 'you' want. Sometimes major companies actually need to pay their employees, and *gasp* turn a profit. Thankfully, there are loads of people more than happy to pick up your copy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Morne

Rokashi

12-11-2007, 11:52 AM

c'mon guys give the ps3 a chance..just this once? please? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

TU16

12-11-2007, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Rokashi:
c'mon guys give the ps3 a chance..just this once? please? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

KillZone 2, MGS 4, and Uncharted not good enough for you (well, given that KillZone 2 apparently needs to doctor images...).

Absolutely disgusting that "console wars" should come to this. Fyi, the PC is tired of being in the middle of this ****.

Rokashi

12-11-2007, 12:19 PM

the last thing we need to do is fight about consols, i just find it very time consuming and pointless..instead we should just focus on HAZEhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

mornelithe

12-11-2007, 01:10 PM

I don't see why you think the PC is in the middle of this TU, it's a separate entity, as it's not considered a console. I will say yes, the PC gaming industry has taken a hit...albeit slightly, given that more attention..in some ways...is being diverted to the consoles, that would otherwise go to PC. However, I fail to see how you can complain when you've got Crysis 8P. So calm down there bub! Oh, by the way, ran into someone who claims the the 360's graphics card is far superior to anything currently on the market, including and specifically referring to PC's. LoL. I actually stopped talking to him altogether...was like, you're insane man.

TU16

12-11-2007, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by mornelithe:
I don't see why you think the PC is in the middle of this TU, it's a separate entity, as it's not considered a console. I will say yes, the PC gaming industry has taken a hit...albeit slightly, given that more attention..in some ways...is being diverted to the consoles, that would otherwise go to PC. However, I fail to see how you can complain when you've got Crysis 8P. So calm down there bub! Oh, by the way, ran into someone who claims the the 360's graphics card is far superior to anything currently on the market, including and specifically referring to PC's. LoL. I actually stopped talking to him altogether...was like, you're insane man.

That man was indeed insane- send him to the luny bin immediately (and then hand him a couple of 8800 Ultras and Crysis in DX10). Anyway, I was merely responding to all of those in this thread going, "omfg dude, it better be a PS3 exclusive or else!" Anyway, Crysis is an amazing game, but that does not at all detract from the fact that Haze will bring its own, very desirable cards to the table. Nevertheless, even if Haze only ever released on the PS3, it would not be nearly enough to compel me to get one for the simple matter of control- between the Wii and PC, gamepads just feel so... meh (especially since I'll be picking-up either a G5 or G9 soon- haven't decided which yet), and FR has already said the PS3 version won't have m/k (of course, neko also said that those who wanted m/k support would just get Haze for the PC, so meh...).

Raide

12-11-2007, 01:49 PM

The 360 has loads of good shooters and while the PS3 does have some good ones now and more on the way, more is always good!

Haze has all the good things that PS3 users want, strong story-based singleplayer, local and PSN co-op with Drop In and Out feature and multiplayer modes with flamethrowers in it and much more! PS3 owners should love Haze.

Dev Diary 3 (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23043.html)

Streets of Britain Video (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27705.html)

Free Radical are making a game for PS3 owners to love and more info will be streaming it's way to you in the coming weeks.

deded999

12-11-2007, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by Raide:
Free Radical are making a game for PS3 owners to love and more info will be streaming it's way to you in the coming weeks.

Well that's certainly good to hear - if it turns out to be accurate, (no offence Raide, previous history mate).

As for your view on control TU16, I understand what you mean, but don't you play anything but FPS? It's certainly the case that the control options on PS3/360 are perfectly okay, (and preferable to the Wiimote/m/k in my view), for many other games that aren't FPS, ie. the majority of the games seen on 360/PS3. I can't help thinking your missing out on a huge number of fantastic games with an attitude like that, but hey, your loss right?

Thingamajig257

12-11-2007, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by necronzero:
IF haze comes to the 360, i wont buy it on ps3 NOR on 360, ill hate Free Radical forever if this happens, and DONT get me wrong, im no fanboy,

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1527/img001ly7.jpg

but i also want some exclusives for the war to be more interesting.

Interesting!? What does it matter to you? The only reason you need exclusives is so either the PS3 or the 360 don't start growing cobwebs. Some people actually have a legitimate reason for being dissapointed over exclusivity, and you're complaining even though the 'war' has no real effect on you either way.

TU16

12-11-2007, 03:52 PM

Oh, I play plenty of other types of games- RTS/RTT games are actually my favorite (w/FPS games coming in second). However, the Wii, combined with my library of GameCube games, has largely satiated my thirst for other game types. The only area I'm really hurting in atm is sports, but EA has announced that they will be placing a much greater emphasis on PC sports titles, and thus it seems the PC's status as far as sports games will equalize with the status of the consoles. I can hold-out another year (hopefully 2K Sports will follow EA, but EA has surprised me this year w/NHL '08- it's the first year I can seriously say that EA's NHL game beats 2K's). And, besides from PC sports, there are always Wii sports games (haven't done too well yet, but as the Madden series has shown, the controls certainly offer potential- it's just a matter of putting in the requisite effort to eliminate nasty bugs).

I also have yet to find a situation where a gamepad is preferable to a Wiimote- barring poor Wiimote/Nunchuck implementation (which is something that also happens with gamepads- games that do make good use of the Wiimote, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Resident Evil 4, Medal of Honor Heroes 2, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Zack and Wiki, etc... really, really benefit from doing so). And where it is (or might be- I'm actually looking very favorably at the Wiimote/Nunchuck control scheme for Brawl), both the Classic and GameCube controllers are options for the developers (as I alluded to above, Brawl will let players use just the Wiimote, the Wiimote and Nunchuck, a GameCube controller, or the Classic Controller). Anyway, the m/k is better for far more than just FPS and RTS games anyway, so... (actually, for all the PS3 games I listed a few posts back, I would much rather use an m/k than gamepad in all of them).

deded999

12-11-2007, 04:50 PM

lol, so 360/PS3 pads aren't okay but Gamecube and classic controller, (ie. extra controller when the Wiimote isn't good enough), are good? Ok.

I'll have to disagree about Zelda - I felt the Wiimote was completely redundant and that the fairy/aiming reticule, (WTF?) meant the Gamecube version would have been the better version if it had had widescreen support, which it should have had anyway.

FPS, RTS and any game with the Wiimote then - you do seem to have a preference for control systems over game styles, you have to admit. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TU16

12-11-2007, 06:22 PM

lol, so 360/PS3 pads aren't okay but Gamecube and classic controller, (ie. extra controller when the Wiimote isn't good enough), are good? Ok.

Taken out of context. I was assessing the versatility of the Wii, noting that the Wii has the capability to utilize a more traditional control scheme should it ever be needed (as one could make an argument for in Brawl, but it actually looks like all that will do is simplify the control scheme- looks like Wiimote/Nunchuck will still be the best way to go). And, of course, I can get a 360 gamepad for my PC any time I want/need to- but I haven't had such a need yet.

FPS, RTS and any game with the Wiimote then - you do seem to have a preference for control systems over game styles, you have to admit.

Another misinterpretation. My point was that the Wii, like the GC, satiates my desire for non-PC games (such as platformers), and that, when granted the option between the Wiimote/Nunchuck and a gamepad, I would generally prefer the Wiimote/Nunchuck. For example, sports games. Essentially, I can get such a game for the 360, PS3, PC, or Wii, and it really just comes down to my control preference- which would, in that case, be the Wiimote/Nunchuck if well done. Quite admittedly, looking through my GameCube library, I'm quite hard-pressed to find a game that the Wiimote/Nunchuck could not have done better/at least as adequately as the GC controller (there are actually quite a few that an m/k or joystick would have done much better for though, that is for certain; another ex among my GC library is Battalion Wars- I now have BW 2 for the Wii, and the Wiimote vastly improves the game, but I had already taken an interest in the game before that was ever a factor).

As far as Zelda goes, the Wiimote wasn't any less redundant than a controller... and you seem to be evaluating that particular title for how good of a gimmick is instead of evaluating how good of a control mechanism it is. Having both Wind Waker and Ocarina of Time on the GC (the OoT that came w/a WT pre-order), I can definitely tell you that the Wiimote is faster- that is, once I have decided to attack, I can execute that action more rapidly. Swiping the Wiimote to swipe is faster than pressing a button (I didn't believe that until I tried it), and shaking the Nunchuck to do a spin attack is much, much better and faster, as well as more responsive (Mario Galaxy mimics this quite successfully, except it's mapped to the Wiimote instead of the Nunchuck- the ease, responsiveness, and speed with which that can be executed is one of the very positive points of Mario Galaxy's control). And, of course, aiming any ranged weapon- the boomerang, the slingshot, the bow, etc... These are weapons I barely ever used in past Zelda iterations simply because they were too cumbersome and clumsy, but are weapons that I now turn to very often in TP because of the Wiimote. In terms of the fairy- it's my only complaint w/the system, and probably should have been made optional, but it's a small gripe against a system that otherwise only complements a game that was not designed to utilize such a control system.

Toad17

12-11-2007, 07:31 PM

Originally posted by deded999:
I'll have to disagree about Zelda - I felt the Wiimote was completely redundant and that the fairy/aiming reticule, (WTF?) meant the Gamecube version would have been the better version if it had had widescreen support, which it should have had anyway.

Wow. Thank you. I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Just say no to last-gen ports on next-gen systems.

[On Topic] Are we still on about this? Wake me up when the game is released

TU16

12-11-2007, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Toad17:
Just say no to last-gen ports on next-gen systems.

(Scratches head) Even when the next-gen port costs the same and exceeds the quality of the last-gen version?

What about Resident Evil 4 on the Wii? Easily the best version, thanks entirely to controls.

Toad17

12-12-2007, 06:27 AM

mornelithe

12-12-2007, 06:53 AM

Heck with SF Remix, gimme Street Fighter IV, that game looks AWESOME! As for FF, the only Final Fantasy game that I would willingly re-purchase, is a reworked HD FFVII.

deded999

12-12-2007, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by TU16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Toad17:
Just say no to last-gen ports on next-gen systems.

(Scratches head) Even when the next-gen port costs the same and exceeds the quality of the last-gen version? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What was next-gen about it? How did it exceed the quality? It was exactly the same except it had widescreen support and different control options, which I've already commented on. The difference is that in order to play it on Wii you had to spend a lot on new hardware. Which meant I should have bought Zelda for my Gamecube, (would have been about my sixth game for that system FFS), and I could have saved buying a Wii until Galaxy arrived, the first game worth having one for in my view, (MPIII not withstanding, I may get it for Christmas).

What about Resident Evil 4 on the Wii? Easily the best version, thanks entirely to controls.

But that won't be repeated since it was a last-gen title ported to the Wii. RE5 on Wii? Not likely. If RE4 hadn't been ported then by your account you wouldn't have ever played it, which was my point entirely.

As for being on-topic, largely pointless though this debate is, (we'll never agree, lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif), it's infinitely more interesting than the endless and futile 'Haze on 360' debate...

TU16

12-12-2007, 11:15 AM

I had already played RE 4- though I had not bought it. When it came around to the Wii, I had already had a favorable impression of the game, and had supposed that the Wii's controls would only make my impression even more favorable- which, indeed, they did.

What was next-gen about it? How did it exceed the quality? It was exactly the same except it had widescreen support and different control options, which I've already commented on. The difference is that in order to play it on Wii you had to spend a lot on new hardware. Which meant I should have bought Zelda for my Gamecube, (would have been about my sixth game for that system FFS), and I could have saved buying a Wii until Galaxy arrived, the first game worth having one for in my view, (MPIII not withstanding, I may get it for Christmas).

Of course, it depends on your definition of "nex-gen". Imo, the Wii's control scheme is, and provided a much better experience than the GC controls could have. However, I was working off the assumption that one had already planned to get/had a Wii rather than planned on buying the Wii solely so one could play Zelda on the Wii instead of the GC. As far as RE5 goes, I think you will see an eventual port to the Wii, given the wild success of RE 4 on the Wii.

simply it doesn't make sense to support a company that has built an empire on 'used goods'.

Really, I don't care. RE 4 for the Wii turned out great, and Capcom did a good job with it- I don't much care what other games Capcom puts out. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not supporting Capcom, but rather RE 4 for Wii, and that is essentially a vote for high-quality ports.

xELITEGUNNERx

12-13-2007, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Dubbedinenglish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TU16:

MGS4 is the only PS3 game I have heard of that supposedly taps into Blu-Ray's increased storage capacity.

Not true: Resistance weighs in at 14gb's, Lair at 25gb, Heavenly Sword at 25, Uncharted Drakes Fortune at 25, Ratchet and Clank 25...Not to mention ID softwares project on their new engine will be two discs for every platform...except PS3.

Also Killzone 2's build of 1 level inhabits 2 gigs of disk space. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

u forgot gta4 which is ps3 exclusive twoooo score

deded999

12-13-2007, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by xELITEGUNNERx:
u forgot gta4 which is ps3 exclusive twoooo score

is that supposed to be a wind-up? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Coreyb

12-13-2007, 10:59 PM

Hmm dont any of You see...PLAYSTATION 3 EXCLUSIVE?!

Sevenlast

12-13-2007, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by TU16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rokashi:
c'mon guys give the ps3 a chance..just this once? please? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

KillZone 2, MGS 4, and Uncharted not good enough for you (well, given that KillZone 2 apparently needs to doctor images...).

Absolutely disgusting that "console wars" should come to this. Fyi, the PC is tired of being in the middle of this ****. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But Doctored images are common practice of the gaming industry. Since many "generations" ago. I should know I'm a graphic designer.

The killzone shots received a contrast boost along with some hue balancing and maybe a lil' softening. Most of the things edited could be changed in the settings of your now common tv. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Dubbedinenglish

12-14-2007, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by Sevenlast:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TU16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rokashi:
c'mon guys give the ps3 a chance..just this once? please? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

KillZone 2, MGS 4, and Uncharted not good enough for you (well, given that KillZone 2 apparently needs to doctor images...).

Absolutely disgusting that "console wars" should come to this. Fyi, the PC is tired of being in the middle of this ****. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But Doctored images are common practice of the gaming industry. Since many "generations" ago. I should know I'm a graphic designer.

The killzone shots received a contrast boost along with some hue balancing and maybe a lil' softening. Most of the things edited could be changed in the settings of your now common tv. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

'Tis true (Itagaki and Techmo notorious of adding a furious amount of AA to their press release photos), the only exception in Killzone 2's case is they actually come out and say it...Yet now they get bashed for it, not much of an incentive for devs to tell us in future eh?

Sevenlast

12-14-2007, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Dubbedinenglish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sevenlast:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TU16:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rokashi:
c'mon guys give the ps3 a chance..just this once? please? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

KillZone 2, MGS 4, and Uncharted not good enough for you (well, given that KillZone 2 apparently needs to doctor images...).

Absolutely disgusting that "console wars" should come to this. Fyi, the PC is tired of being in the middle of this ****. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But Doctored images are common practice of the gaming industry. Since many "generations" ago. I should know I'm a graphic designer.

The killzone shots received a contrast boost along with some hue balancing and maybe a lil' softening. Most of the things edited could be changed in the settings of your now common tv. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

'Tis true (Itagaki and Techmo notorious of adding a furious amount of AA to their press release photos), the only exception in Killzone 2's case is they actually come out and say it...Yet now they get bashed for it, not much of an incentive for devs to tell us in future eh? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Exactly. Gotta give them atleast credit for admitting it. This is actually one of those "trade secrets" the industry never shouts openly. In my opinion, edited or non-edited...wait till you see the game in motion. I'm sure you'll soon forget about any pictures.

Arabus07

12-15-2007, 10:41 AM

Long time reader 1st time poster. As a gamer the concept of exclusive has always been frustrating to grasp. With systems costing what they do nowadays I think have an exclusive game is more of a hinderance than a benifit. I picked my next gen console and to but another just for a game is well to me stupid (no offense to those that have done so). I like Haze...ALOT and would like to see everyone who want to play it have to ability to do so. I think it's poor taste to throw out nonsense that the 360 has enough exclusives and what not. In closing I have 2 no 3 requests:
1: Understand that Haze appeals to ALOT of gamers, PS3, 360, PC. This game has potential blockbuster dripping from each trailer I see. I handicap this game buy making it PS3 exclusive may help you system...for awhile but it doesn't help the game that much. I think we should not only cheer this game on (as we are all fans regardless of system choice) but also respect that many people who do want this game may not have (or want) a PS3. There's nothing wrong with that.
2: Can someone...ANYONE answer the @#$@ question and tell me(us) what the deal with the game is?? Is it exclusive/exclusive (BOOOOO!!) or exclusive for a year then multi platform?? Like other I find it very odd that it was initially developed multiplatform and then all of a sudden yanked to PS3 only. Has there been a definate answer??
3. For the love of the mighty above stay on topic!!! I don't care about the two pages of **** people have been rambling on about!! I need this mystery solved regarding Haze and these petty console war of words and snide "we should have our own exclusive nonsense is circular and time wasting. Lets get some answers and/or healthy discussin regarding the fate of this great game. A potential buyer (if it's multi platform that is) is desperatly dying to know.

Rokashi

12-15-2007, 01:27 PM

why do you care if people arnt on topic lol, you join till just now, hence the 1 post

xELITEGUNNERx

12-16-2007, 04:28 AM

Originally posted by Rokashi:
why do you care if people arnt on topic lol, you join till just now, hence the 1 post

i agree arabus07 shut up

deded999

12-16-2007, 05:23 AM

Welcome to the forum Arabus07.

In answer to your queries:

2) Nobody can tell you definitively if or when Haze will appear on otherm platforms. Ubisoft have stated that there is no 360 or PC version at the moment, but hasn't closed the door on other versions, and many people would probably expect to see the game on both platforms some months after Haze arrives on the PS3.

3) ...and it's this very uncertainty that results in people discussing the topic ad infinitum and tending to wander off into related subjects when the discussion is unresolved.

It may annoy you, but the people who've been here a lot longer than you and had to put up with far less news to discuss for months at a time have just had to get used to the situation and get by - as should you.

As for the whole exclusive situation, it should be obvious that exclusives exist in order to promote one platform-holder's system over another. Why do you have a 360? Because you were particularly attracted to that system, for whatever reason. I would say the same for why I bought a PS3. However, moaning about it not being fair that I can't play Halo 3 will not make the game appear on the PS3 any time soon. I'm afraid it's (again) a situation you'll just have to accept.

Rokashi

12-16-2007, 05:59 AM

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

encore03

12-24-2007, 07:03 PM

i think it would be ok 4 it 2 come out on 360, wuts the loss for me if im playing it on ps3? though, mab if its coming out l8r 4 the 360 and pc, they mit have better upgrades and add-ons.

mornelithe

12-25-2007, 02:16 PM

Doubtful it would have 'better upgrades and add-ons'. PS3 being lead platform on this, would make it the first to get that kind of thing.

abhi

12-28-2007, 05:41 PM

if haze is a next gen game , i think i needs a ps3 system cause its the best console, 360 got games but all this talk way off topic on a haze forum thingi http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif http://media.ubi.com/us/forum_images/gf-glomp.gif

mornelithe

12-29-2007, 08:00 AM

Well, once those who know have answered the theme of the thread, it's not our fault when others come on, don't look around, and ask off-topic questions. We're just responding 8P.

Morne

trophix1

01-06-2008, 05:10 PM

Xbox 360 Suks hope they never release it on there or I won't by it!!!!!

Rokashi

01-06-2008, 05:23 PM

you need to calm down

XyZspineZyX

01-06-2008, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by trophix1:
Xbox 360 Suks hope they never release it on there or I won't by it!!!!!
Console flame wars are not welcome on these forums. If you continue with posts like this you will find your stay on these forums very short indeed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

relentless2k4

01-07-2008, 01:53 AM

Why do people care that it will be going to 360, if you got a PS3 than you're going to be playing it on that no matter what.

Plus chances are they're going to be porting it from PS3 to 360, so there can be bugs and glitches in the 360 version.

Not to mention it's comming out later for the 360, so by the time they do eventually get it, you wouldn't even care.

trophix1

01-07-2008, 03:14 PM

Sorry about that but am not really a big Xbox fan and only a Playstation fan from when I was little.

destructor350

01-10-2008, 10:34 PM

hmmmm...I want this to be an exclusive for the PS3 mainly because every xbox owner that I know (not every single one out there) brags about "how many cool games are there for the xbox" and "how the PS3 sucks in every way".........
....*sobs* I want some bragging rights......(lol)
also because I wouldn't want a game to be sold that wouldn't look good. If it would look or play worse on the Xbox, which is quite possible, then don't sell it. It would give Haze a bad reputation.

mornelithe

01-11-2008, 05:25 AM

It's not what's out now that I really care about, that's typically an American (yes, I'm American) trait, the quick fix, quality doesn't matter as long as they get it now, kinda thing. Whether that holds true for the majority of...bagel eaters...the PS3 is looking to have a similar 2nd year as the...bagel eaters... We'll have plenty of exclusives, don't worry about that. Plenty of internal devs for Sony churning stuff out this year. And a few 3rd parties working on some nice exclusive/timed exclusives.

Morne

However, a little ammo for you in your conversations. PS3 has 7 Cores running at 3.2ghz, Bagels have 3, running at 3.2ghz. PS3 has 256 Meg of XDR Ram @ 3.2ghz also, which is found virtually nowhere else, the bagels only have DDR3 RAM @ 700Mhz. And finally, the PS3's GPU supports a ton more textures than the bagels.