View Full Version : Looking for good bang for buck agp card.
05-09-2008, 03:21 PM
My old system is a P4 2.8 Ghz, 1G DDR RAM. It has played all the old favorites, including this sim, quite respactably until the 9800 pro that was in it kicked the bucket. Until then it was a great second computer for my son. I would like to replace the 9800 pro with something comparable (or better) without spending too much. Can someone suggest a good card?
05-09-2008, 03:31 PM
Imo, your besy bey would be another 9800Pro as far as not spending to much $$$ because AGP graphic cards are selling for quite a lot of money on eBay these days. Now if you wanted, or don't mind spending over $100, then a 9800XT or an X800 in AGP would be a bump up in performance. I would mention the X1950Pro in AGP but even if you would spend the $$$ to purchase one, I believe your CPU would bottleneck it.
05-09-2008, 03:41 PM
What about a 1650 pro? My understanding is that it performs better than the 9800pro. Am I mistaken?
05-09-2008, 04:25 PM
I think an X800 pro would be a really nice jump in performance GPU-wise and stretch your CPU to its limits. A 9800 Pro would still be your bottleneck with a P4 2.8 CPU. Any more card than that and, as Quazi said, you'd be CPU bound.
05-09-2008, 04:41 PM
See if you can find a Nvidia 7800 GS. My brother has one because it's the best he can get in his AGP X8 slot. He loves it.
05-09-2008, 05:01 PM
Thanks for the replies.
I was looking at the 1650 pro because it is cheap and available. The 9800 pro and x800pro are both good suggestions, but would mean I would have to buy on e-bay. Honestly I am as uneasy with ebay as early man was of fire and lightning. I am always worried that I am will be getting a card that some cat has overclocked the snot out of and has a few weeks to live, etc.
My impression is that the 1650 pro falls somewhere between the 9800pro and x800. Do I have this right? BTW, my son is 4. He likes IL2 and FSX. FSX is a stretch, but I was hoping to get FS2004 going on this rig. I don't really use it anymore for myself anymore.
Anyway, thanks for the good suggestions. I should have narrowed my question down earlier as to how the 1650pro compared to the 9800 pro and if was a good choice.
Thanks again all.
05-09-2008, 06:20 PM
any of these.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sapphire-ATI-Radeon-X800-GTO-256MB-...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/Sapphire-ATI-Radeon-X800-GTO-256MB-DVI-VGA-TV-out-AGP_W0QQitemZ380025800884QQihZ025QQcategoryZ3762QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Double check power supply requirements.
05-09-2008, 06:24 PM
Ebay is fine, look at the sellers feedback before buying.
I would suggest either a 6800 series or a X800 series for bang for buck.
I hear that the X1900 is a good card, but these are likely to be very ex*****ive in AGP flavour.
I know this may sound drastic, but I would get myself a cheap socket 939 motherboard with PCI Express and a Athlon 64 say 3800+ or so.
I bet you could do this for around £50-£60. Then get yourself a PCI-E card such as the 7900GS for around £50.
That would mean an upgrade of CPU+MB+Gfx card for around £100.
Of course you would have to use ebay to get it that cheap.
ABout 8-10 months ago I got myself :-
Asus A8N deluxe skt 939 mb - £38
AMD 4200+ Dual Core - £40
Geforce 7900GS PCI-E - £50
SO I am absolutely sure you could get a single core AMD 64 mb, cpu and gfx card for £100 now.
I just wanted to show you that if you are going to spend over £100 on a AGP gfx card then you could upgrade the whole inards for the same price, so dont go overboard on price for an AGP card.
05-09-2008, 10:06 PM
I believe a 1650Pro would do you fine m8.
05-10-2008, 03:30 AM
I would get a GeForce 7600GT, you cant find them pretty cheap also.
Best would be XpertVision 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 AGP or a Leadtek Winfast A7600 GT TDH 256MB GDDR3 AGP card.
As long if that old P4 rig runs fine its well worth upgrading if its used as a second computer.
Got a 5 year old rig that i just upgrade after the mobo failed, basicly everything is new exept the CPU.
It can run all the latest games fine including Crysis wich really pushes it to its limit.
Nothing overclocked here.
05-16-2008, 04:48 AM
Thanks for all the help.
05-18-2008, 05:04 PM
Yeah man...1650 is a great improvement over 9800..they're cheap..but I would suggest making some kind of arrangement for extra cooling...but otherwise you'll be pleased for the money