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Heavensabove

01-15-2006, 01:27 AM

Requesting from the forum any information or details relating to the Fw 190A-8's displayed. If these aircraft have already been produced as skins then please let me know so I can stop researching.

I'm seeking any further colour images, suitable profiles and any relevant historical details in preperation for skinning.

First aircraft is (Advanced Research Series?):

[[ APOLOGIES LADIES & GENTS - IMAGES REMOVED, I thought this was finshed with and deleted the profiles ]].

With profile sourced from (Fw 190 section): http://www.meteorprod.com/

Thanks all for your time.

Heavensabove

01-15-2006, 01:27 AM

Fly-By-Shooter

01-15-2006, 02:35 AM

The I/JG301 Job, very unusual looking with its repeat of the Fuse band colorings on the engine cowlings,I dont believe Ive seen one with this marking configuration before, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifwhitewall tyres too, thats a Yank thing isnt it? hehe

regards FBS

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Heavensabove

01-15-2006, 03:23 AM

Probably the pilots/ground crew watching too many late 1930's Gangster movies... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I've actually seen a few profiles and images showing aircraft with what looked like white wall tyres or sidewalls?

Regards,

F19Gladiator

01-15-2006, 04:33 AM

Just some quick remarks on "Blue 13".
T.A. Tullis has done a profile of this a/c in "Eagles Illustrated #1". The camo is similar but different. the cowling being of the same light shade also on the front part.
Commenting on the badge, he believes it to be painted on for propaganda purposes only and some researchers believe there was no blue background to the badge.Tullis profile has blue background to the badge.
I have never seen this badge on another a/c myself.
Reference is given to "Focke Wulf Jagdflugzeug Fw190A, Dora & Ta152 by Peter Rodeike"

In Fw190 vol 1. by K. Janowicz, Kagero, 2003, The same a/c is profiled. This time with blue/white/blue tail band, the badge with blue background.
I believe the red tailband was not for JG300 but JG1. This is also what this book states.

Fly-By-Shooter

01-15-2006, 05:10 AM

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifEh, what? Me? Who? How? What I say? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif all i did was comment on the colors & snazzy whitewalls & now I'm taking it on? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifahhhh....Thats a negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full..... have a bit too much on at moment spud, be a while b4 I could even consider it chief http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Regards FBS

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Heavensabove

01-15-2006, 05:42 AM

No worries, sent you a PM with the explanation as to my comms mix-up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Phas3e

01-15-2006, 10:33 AM

Dahls 'blue 13' I understand to be a bit of an enigma,
most profiles are based on a photo which until recently was thought to have been his aircraft but now its apears not to have been his at all.

Ive never seen the Jg301 profile although I think FBS would be perfect for it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

**The whitewall tyres were to improve the life span of the rubber and was more common practice by the units in the desert.

tomtheyak

01-15-2006, 01:26 PM

Actually, on LW aircraft it was used to denote tyres that had wire filaments running thru to make them electrically conductive - maybe to dischage any static electricity build up to earth on landing.

F19Gladiator

01-22-2006, 01:16 PM

Dahl's "Blue 13". I see that this a/c has been deleted from the original posting, but I have some comments on my first comment on Dahl's "Blue 13";

I wrote: "In Fw190 vol 1. by K. Janowicz, Kagero, 2003, The same a/c is profiled. This time with blue/white/blue tail band, the badge with blue background.
I believe the red tailband was not for JG300 but JG1. This is also what this book states."

The tailband matter was of course more complicated and diverse than I stated above, which I found out when I got back home again and within reach of some books.

JG1 got a red band. JG300 had first red and later blue/white/blue.

Jagdgeschwader "Wilde 300 Sau" Vol 1. Jean-Yves Lorant & Richard Goyat, also has a profile of the "Blue 13" WNr. 170994, Walter Dahl, Bad WÃÂ¶rishofen August 1944, most probably based on photographs in the book.
Red tailband but no cowling embleme this time.

It would be helpful if all profile artists stated their sources. In this aspect I find the authors of Focke Wulf Fw 190 & Ta 152, Eduardo Soler & Aurelio Gimeno to be a new benchmark for reference listing. An excellent listing from where you can find the photos analyzed, the books and even the pages set out. Sometimes even more than 10 books for the same a/c listed, increasing the chance one is sitting on a book with the right photos!

The "Luftwaffe ColoÄ±urs - Jagdwaffe series"(also goes for subsequent series on bombers etc)and "Defenders of the Reich Vol 1-3" are also good as they gather photos and profile on the same page(s).

ChrisS1958

01-23-2006, 01:42 AM

Heavensabove your picture is no longer present in your first post but I do have some profiles and I also have some pictures of scale models which I will post if you would like to see them. However a guide source of pictures of scale models is http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/message/1087962313/. I also have profiles and pictures of his time as Gruppenkommandeur of III./JG 3.

I had 'trawled these up' from searches in the past so I have no idea which sites but I hope they are useful and show his aircraft when he was Geschwaderkommodore of JG 300 from 27-06-44 to 30-11-44:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/ChrisS1958/Fw190A-8Blue13Stab-JG300MajWalterDa.gif

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/ChrisS1958/Fw190A-8Blue13Stab-JG300MajWalterDa.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/ChrisS1958/aircraft2/Fw190A-8Blue13Stab-JG300MajWalterDa.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/ChrisS1958/Fw190/Fw190A-8Blue13Stab-JG300MajWalterDa.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/ChrisS1958/Fw190%202/Fw190A-8Blue13Stab-JG300MajWalterDa.jpg

And a photo from http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/neilpage/dahlblaue13.html There is further pictures also at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/neilpage/SturmgruppeDahl.html

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/ChrisS1958/Fw190/WaltherDahl.jpg