Joystick Issues for PC version of Blazing Angels

[PolecatXXX]

Many people seem to be having a problem using certain joystick models when playing the PC version. The test team primarily used Xbox-style control pads during the test and several top brands of joystick. A few issues have been caught by the test team and will be addressed with the patch.

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Im sorry but 99% of people playing flying games on the pc use a joystick.How long does it take to test a joystick ,5 mins.
This is a serious major flaw in a major title.Im speechless how such a massive cockup could have been allowed,they should all be sacked!!

[Kdynastie]

yeah.

[tigermelon1]

Just had the game for 2 hours. Been looking forward to it for weeks. JS (logitech extreme) having same problems as everyone else and no dedicated server = Total waste of money

Somebody please remind me never to buy a game again until it's been out a couple of weeks and the reviews are being posted

[drklebel]

tigermelon1 I couldn't agree with you more.

[GS_Beastie]

Cat,... Didn't Ubi ever Hear of "Beta Testing" before going for our money...!!!...???

My SideWinder2 does not work with this game...??? Its a Top Stick, and should work with this Game...!!!

To All that bought this Game...??? Please Tell us IF and WHAT JoySticks Work with this game...<:-))

[Valour]

None - I tested several with the PC demo. You people are UBI need to wake up to yourselves!

[Blud_E_Gutz]

Yo SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSnake

Same probs here. Logitech Extreme 3d,, not even going to try the MS2 FF stick.

Doesn't recognize the controls ingame, even though they are configured in the option menu. Throttle not working,rudder always on to left problem too--I took this puppy off the H/D. Seems UBI has given us Letdown (AKA Lockdown) for the skies.

It is not on my buy list right now and unless the joystick problem is commpletley resolved I would even bother trying the demo again. Cmon UBI, fully testing it with Joysticks, what's up with that??

[GS_Beastie]

Yes, this is really a BUMMER...<:-(( The next Problem is to see if Ubi will let me return this BUMMER...???

[Duckota]

just ran the demo, I have a MS SW FF2 stick, the only thing I could get to work on it was twisting the stick all the way left for accel and button 6 to fire! the trigger didn't work nor did the throttle/ slider control. I don't really want to play this having to use the keyboard and joystick just to do simple flying methods. I am going back to my XBOX. If these are the same probs as the full PC version, I can see why it is TOTAL waste of money. It just doesn't work! Completely inoperable! I really cannot beleive this game was released with all the issue, not even 5 minutes into THE demo, and me as a novice simmer cannot grab onto the functionality of getting to know the game. TOO MUCH WORK!

[SsSsSsSsSnake]

Yo Blud buddy,what we gonna play now? that battle of europe demo is great but no multiplayer,come back crimson lol

[spmcfarland]

Seriously, Crimson Skies was a GREAT game. I never played it multiplayer, but if somebody knows where to get a game going, count me in!

[GS_Beastie]

I will be surprised if patching can fix this game...
This is the first and last game I will ever Pre-order...!!!
I guess WE should Wish ZIPPER that made CS was still Making GAMES...!!! Crimson Skies only got two small Patchs, and No Support after that... Amazing how good it turned out... Amazing how this many years later, Arcade Flight Sims are still being Measured against Crimson Skies...!!!

Go to GameSpy to play Crimson Skies On-Line...<:-))

I think Ubi would do well to go find them "ZIPPER CODER'S" and put them on the PayRoll...<:-))

CAT,... I would like you to do something for ME... Go home and get your favorite 'TOP Flight Stick" out play this game...<:-)) And then when you come back to work tomarrow... Go and "SPANK" them GUY'S in the "Beta Testing Dept" for ME...<:-))

Now, Where Is That Patch WE Been Hearing About...<:-))

[Blud_E_Gutz]

I wish I could play CS, but it work with my latest video card (7800 GT OC).

I have tried ALL the latest demos for the acrade flight sims (Air Conflict, BOE)and not one of them get it right. This one had the most promise and it is messed up because of poor testing as well as rotten programming of joystick controls.

The guys who actually designed this game need to go and play Crimson Skies and see what they should have done. Zipper knew how to make a fun flight game! Too bad MS screwed them over.

And Beastie--you are assuming that 'Cat' has a PC for gaming! LOL (kidding)

[ALMERPAYNE]

I have tryed to use 2 sticks ,the Hotas Cougar and the Saitek Cyborg Evo Wireless,neither of them work,i can only hope the patch will sort out this problem !!!,it seems crazy they dident work straight of ,when you think a game like this is played 99% with a stick.

Also will they patch the demo ???

[Kayden3]

I have a Saitek x52 joystick and I was shocked that the game wouldn't pick up the joystick I have, it kept going to joybutton 15 and 16 so I checked for an update on the drivers and still didn't work. Then I came here to find an answer but what I found out was yet another developer was being lazy in supporting equipment that gamers own. Way to go guys your getting even lazier!

[SGAZoCS]

Will the patch fix the Demo too?

I dl'd the Demo on X-Fire last night and ran smack into the same problems with the JS (Saitek Cyborg Evo).

The game looks good and seems to have some promise but no $$ for Ubisoft until I can fly a demo that actually works WELL with a joystick on a PC.

Whoever said UBI folks should check out PC Crimson Skies hit the nail on the head!

Looking forward to the Patch!
A public multiplayer server for the demo would be pretty cool as well!

[tigermelon1]

Due to the good work by Clifton http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) managed to fly ok for a couple of hours which have given rise to a couple of thoughts. An old MS sidewinder works fine but within the game there is no independent rudder control. you can climb/fall roll left/right but when u use rudder by twist you get a full bank and airelon turn. Takes some getting used to lolol - no gentle manoevering when leading a target. Reading some posts by the Xbox flyers they dont have a rudder at all: so perhaps the PC version is not really intended to have a "normal" rudder as well - just Ubisoft version of 1 ( !!! ) The JS problems we are encountering with the Z axis could just be another sympton of the lack of attention to the rudder in the game ? Sort of like "lets stick a rudder control in the game for the PC but make it quick"

[XVII-69]

My Cyrborg Evo works fine in the game, Bought it yesterday, but the Buttons are all messed up and the Settings can not be changed for which one i want as my FIRE button.. I am going back to play BF2 until this is Fixxed, 63$ Cdn and this is what i get.. UBI man what is up with That BAD BAD BAD!!

[Ice-Ninja]

I just got the game today...tried to play with Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback Pro no luck so far.
All my other Ubi Flight games IL2 Sturmovick,Forgotten Battles AEP and Pacific Fighters work great with this stick.

Hope a patch comes out real soon or I`ll be looking for a refund.
BTW My Saitek Evo works intermittently can`t seem to assign the buttons I want changed.

Please fix this problem soon.Or post a list of tested joysticks ... for now I`ll be back on the Forgotten Battles Server

[RMcSlash]

Logitech extreme 3DPro, I am able to reassign buttons as I need, but the trial doesn't recognize the throttle. In fact, it sees the Z axis twist as the slider??? And assigning a button to the throttle doesn't really work because as soon as you take your finger off the button, the throttle returns to center line.
Also, I am dissapointed that there is apparently no option for "Pro" flight control mode as there is in Heroes of the Pacific, the default mode seems counter-intuitive to me.
Are these issues going to be fixed?

[AirBoy1952]

i have a saitek st90 and i can't assign joystick trigger and buttons .. this is really screwed up i could in the demo but not the retail go figure everytime i try to assign the joystick button number 1 for trigger it get a already assign button and the slider up would list as button ,, can't assign any joystick buttons... what a mess, lol

[RMcSlash]

Yikes! You could assign in the trial, all I have, but you CAN'T assign in the purchase game?

[MiziCat]

I have a MS Sidewinder Precision 2 and the game works fine with it. XBox=Microsoft!!! I can remapp the buttons too.

[Sancti0n]

****! I just thought of this and I have to go in to work! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Just an idea, and it probably won't work but I figure wth it can't hurt (I don't think). If the controls for the joystick CAN be remapped with no problem in the demo, has anyone tried replacing file-X in the retail version with one from the demo? Maybe not the EXE, but another one? I have no idea which it would, but it just occurred to me as my boss caled. I'll try and check it later if no one elsed oes.

[jabbasass]

Hi all,
I did the same, downloaded the demo and its total bollox. The joystick doesn't work at all.

This is the whole reason why only computer companys who specialise in flight sim should make these types of games, as they know what they are doing.

Also F***ups like this is what makes downloading games instead of buying them much more appealing, as you don't waist â£35 on a game that hasn't been tested at all.

I mean the shop you brought it from may turn you away and say, "Well we can't refund your money as you have opened the box". I mean you can't get refunded either way as they'll say "well we can't see any fault".

This is a total discrace, for F***sake leave XBox games on the XBox and Pc games for the Pc.

People who upload games really are doing us a favour, as you can test it, then if you like it enough then you can buy it.

Believe me when i say that i have checked into consumer rights and the video games side of it is shadey to whether you'll get refunded. As once the case to the game is opened then the game becomes invalid.

Anyway i hope everyone has better luck with this game, even though i very much doubt it.

And Ubisoft.....stick to what your good at!!!! and leave flight sims to the professionals.

Thank you,

Jabbashouse.

[GS_Beastie]

Cat,... How about an Up-Date on the Patch...??? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Afantana]

Hi all,

The patch is coming out tomorrow (we're waiting for the Verisign confirmation).
The Joystick should be fine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Please bear with us and help us in making this better. We're really frustrated that our game doesn't match up with the expectations and all and i know that usually lots of things seem easy to do - things on this side though have been quite alert for the last months.

WinXP64 should work too.


We managed to do the tests on site with the hardware available. Please consider that tests are usually made in other designated departments - usually in another country then the dev and so on.
It is not our intent to rely on the community but we surely appreciate your efforts as no test facility could ever match up with the real consumer and the diversity that awaits out there.
Thank you for your support.

Andrei Fantana
Dev.

[Cknobman]

Well I had the exact same problem as everyone here and my father does as well. He has a saitek joystick and I have a logitech wingman controller.

Contacted ubi soft and they actually replied basically telling me I dont know how to configure the joystick/gamepad properly. Bunch of A'holes!

I did get my wingman controller to work by setting my throttle control in the middle. This allowed me to map most of my keys properly but the game still will not recognize all of the x-y axis on the controller.

It plays for now but unless UBI fixes the issues this will be the last f'ing game I ever buy from them. Its a shame because I was getting really hyped up for Ghost Recon Advacned Warfighter for the PC.

I responded to ubi today letting them know that it is an issue the developer must look at and fix.

UBI why were you so lazy as to port the 360 version and not even change what was necessary for it to work properly on the pc? LAZY ARSES!

[Sancti0n]

@Afantana..

Thanks for the update Andrei. You guys get this out as quick as your message implies you're going to and I for one will be grateful AND impressed.

Still, i'd rather see you take the time to get it done right than rush it and replace one problem with another one (or several).

In any event it's nice to see you post here and keep us informed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[RMcSlash]

Originally posted by Afantana:
Hi all,

The patch is coming out tomorrow (we're waiting for the Verisign confirmation).
The Joystick should be fine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Please bear with us and help us in making this better. We're really frustrated that our game doesn't match up with the expectations and all and i know that usually lots of things seem easy to do - things on this side though have been quite alert for the last months.

WinXP64 should work too.


We managed to do the tests on site with the hardware available. Please consider that tests are usually made in other designated departments - usually in another country then the dev and so on.
It is not our intent to rely on the community but we surely appreciate your efforts as no test facility could ever match up with the real consumer and the diversity that awaits out there.
Thank you for your support.

Andrei Fantana
Dev.

Thank you , thank you, thank you.
Will you post a link here?

[SylenAzeur]

I love you Af :P.

[Kdynastie]

@Afantana

than give us a cockpitview and dedicated server too, we all want have!!!

[Judge-ArchAngel]

6FU_DarkFire here....glad to see a bunch of the old Crimson Skies flyers here (missed playing against you all since CS got dropped by msn)

ok ....i have a microsoft sidewinder forcefeedback 2 and i actually got to set ALL the controlls properly with one exception i will mention in next paragraph and they DID work on the demo which i downloaded over this past weekend. you CAN adjust the demo controls by using the blazing angels squadrons of WW 2 demo settings icon that it prompts you to put as a desktop icon when you install the game. it gives you the desktop icon shortcut for the demo game AND the settings icon to adjust.

played the demo and it is seriously awesome. but with one serious flaw: no forcefeedback at all in regards to return to center and tension on the stick when holding it i have vibration when i fire guns or feel turbulence when i do a dive or speed up but no force feedback on the stick at all meaning no force feedback resistance WHILE holding the stick. i am sure you know what i mean where when you hold the stick and turn you FEEL the resistence in the stick and it wants to stay centered using forcefeedback. will this issue be taken care of by the full working version of the game or the expected patch that is due to be released soon? before i go and spend the money to buy this game (i probably will buy it) but i want to know that my stick that i spent alot of money on actually works as it is supposed to. it is a great game and has alot of potential to help us crimson skies players have the feel of CS with this game but this joystick issue MUST be addressed and SOON. i just want to know that the stick will work totally as in 100% WITH force feedback from actions such as shooting AND while holding the stick feel the force feedback resistence of flying and turning and such.

oh and for the record to all you crimson skies players........... YOU CAN STALL TURN IN THIS GAME ! i had my rudder working using the twist of the stick and turning to one side after speeding up pulling up on the stick and cutting the speed and leaning the plane over on one side or the other or completely over the top and diving back down. this game will give us just about the EXACT feel of crimson skies in my opinion as long as they address the stick issues.

LET US KNOW WHAT REPAIRS OR FIXXES ARE IN THE PATCH PLEASE (and what are in the actuall game itself as opposed to the demo since i didnt buy the game yet)so we know what to expect.

oh and in the full game how is multiplayer? is there a working multiplayer? through a site or connect from one computer to another online or what?


thank you all

DarkFire http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif signing out

[BeyondGodsEvils]

Joystick FIXED! Now Joy-unstuck!
replaced this file ---->
( SettingsApplication.exe ) with the one from the demo. Now No more stuck key! Saitek Controller! When the USER fixes his problem BEFORE the manufacturer thats a small hint that UBISOFT support / Development / and help SUX!

[fzimkas]

Where's the patch?

[liadanaf]

Originally posted by Judge-ArchAngel:
6FU_DarkFire here....glad to see a bunch of the old Crimson Skies flyers here (missed playing against you all since CS got dropped by msn)

ok ....i have a microsoft sidewinder forcefeedback 2 and i actually got to set ALL the controlls properly with one exception i will mention in next paragraph and they DID work on the demo which i downloaded over this past weekend. you CAN adjust the demo controls by using the blazing angels squadrons of WW 2 demo settings icon that it prompts you to put as a desktop icon when you install the game. it gives you the desktop icon shortcut for the demo game AND the settings icon to adjust.

played the demo and it is seriously awesome. but with one serious flaw: no forcefeedback at all in regards to return to center and tension on the stick when holding it i have vibration when i fire guns or feel turbulence when i do a dive or speed up but no force feedback on the stick at all meaning no force feedback resistance WHILE holding the stick. i am sure you know what i mean where when you hold the stick and turn you FEEL the resistence in the stick and it wants to stay centered using forcefeedback. will this issue be taken care of by the full working version of the game or the expected patch that is due to be released soon? before i go and spend the money to buy this game (i probably will buy it) but i want to know that my stick that i spent alot of money on actually works as it is supposed to. it is a great game and has alot of potential to help us crimson skies players have the feel of CS with this game but this joystick issue MUST be addressed and SOON. i just want to know that the stick will work totally as in 100% WITH force feedback from actions such as shooting AND while holding the stick feel the force feedback resistence of flying and turning and such.

oh and for the record to all you crimson skies players........... YOU CAN STALL TURN IN THIS GAME ! i had my rudder working using the twist of the stick and turning to one side after speeding up pulling up on the stick and cutting the speed and leaning the plane over on one side or the other or completely over the top and diving back down. this game will give us just about the EXACT feel of crimson skies in my opinion as long as they address the stick issues.

LET US KNOW WHAT REPAIRS OR FIXXES ARE IN THE PATCH PLEASE (and what are in the actuall game itself as opposed to the demo since i didnt buy the game yet)so we know what to expect.

oh and in the full game how is multiplayer? is there a working multiplayer? through a site or connect from one computer to another online or what?


thank you all

DarkFire http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif signing out

can you please ulpode the file, I dont want to download the demo

[ACCT_00054433]

after having read most of all the comments on the forum i have to say i canot beleive in this day and age that a company like UBISOFT can get away with such shaby work you should all be sacked fraud springs to mind if it was a car there would be hell to pay, i we have rights as customers take note ubisoft govening bodies watch out for people like you

[Pat8482]

I downloaded the patch and my Saitek X52 still won't work Whats the problem?

[Javrs]

The patch failed to fix my JS problem too. In fact, it's worse now. Without the patch my JS worked ok with the exception of rolling to the left (holding the "D" key reduced this problem). Now my JS won't respond at all! I'm shocked that such a popular PC gaming sees to have been "overlooked"? I've always looked forward to UBISoft's releases, but not sure if I'll be able to say that about future releases. If this "oversight" isn't resolved soon... Well, all I'll say is fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me... I'm very rarely fooled twice which could result in a personal boycott of UBISoft's games... Of course, I'll give UBISoft a bit more time to redeem themselves...

[riggs99]

I somewhat managed to get my sidewinder 2 working - ish . It really shows that all was done for a gamepad rather than joystick, has anyone managed to separate the rudder action (twist) from the roll (left/right) one ???
or is this impossible ? this is the most basic flying thing, and one would think in a flying game, it would make sense.
I have also found a way with the sidewinder 2 to swap turn and roll , since the joystick stroke are not recognised in the setup, i swapped the values in the registry (current user, softwares, ubi , etc).

Ubi , give that game proper controller code, and test it, that side lets the game down badly.

[PolecatXXX]

I have made another thread for this issue, please find this and post any post-1.01 patch issues with joysticks there, thanks.

[loncheek]

omg ! i'v started playing today and i'v connected my logitech joystick .....sudenly the plain started spinning like crazy .... now i see all have this problem .....how come ..?! when will it be solved ?

tnx http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Xalamander]

I have installed the 1.01 patch and my joystick (Microsoft Sidewinder Pro) still does not work! This is absurd! Couldn't they just put out a patch that allows one to configure the controls?!

Intel 2.8 GHz Pentium IV
500MB RAM
Windows XP Pro (SP2)
GeForce 4, Ti4200
Soundblaster Live Audigy 2.

Xalamander

[bigmikesharp]

Hey GS_BEASTIE
I contacted UBI about a return and they said to work with thier tech support to try and resolve JS issues.
Wish I knew how to attach thier email reply.

[GS_Beastie]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif
Hi BigMike,... Just copy, and Paste the E-Mail right in this thread... The other pilot's would like to see there answer to... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Oh, this should be good Pilot's, coming from Ubi CYBERLAND... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The E-Mail I got from Tech Support,... Said... Its hard to make a game that works with... *****are your ready for this answer...!!!???***** Two to Three hundred different controllers...!!! Oh man, that just adds insult to injury... I say, cut the Bull Ubi... " JUST MAKE THIS GAME TO WORK WITH THE TOP 12 " Controllers, and Flight Sticks...!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gifUbi, that would cover 99% of what the Pilot's would use to play this Game... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Is there some Pilot's out there that could NAME the other 288 other controlers, and Flight Sticks...??? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[Lt.FestusHaggin]

Tried The new patch with great hope that I would be able to configure my saitek st290.The program still wont let you configure axis or throttle. This is what you get when you buy games before checking the reviews. You get to waste hard earned money to poor R&D.

[bigmikesharp]

Hi GS_Beastie
I can't figure out how to copy the email to this thread. I'm a dummy when it comes to this sort of thing. If it isn't to much trouble tell me how.
Thanks, Mike

[bigmikesharp]

Hi GS_Beastie, figured it out. Here is UBI responce about returning the game.
From: "Ubisoft Store Customer Care" <UbisoftStore@ubi.com>
To: <mikesharp22@msn.com>
Subject: How do I go about returning Blazing Angels Squadrons of World War 11? The gam... [Incident: 060406-000167]
Date: Thursday, April 06, 2006 3:21 PM



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How do I go about returning Blazing Angels Squadrons of World War 11? The gam...


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Response (Andrew) - 04/06/2006 10:21 PMGMT Standard Time
Hello Mike,

Thnak you for contacting Ubisoft Customer Support. You will have to contact Ubisoft Tech Support for assistance on this matter. They will try to assist you in getting this title to work on you system or replace your purchase if they determine you have a valid reason for a return.

Regards,
Drew

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Customer (MIKE SHARP) - 04/06/2006 09:03 PMGMT Standard Time
How do I go about returning Blazing Angels Squadrons of World War 11? The game is not compatable with joystick configurations. I downloaded the patch and nada. No work. Freezes up when trying to remap controller keys. A whole bunch of other gamers are ticked off also. Please send me a reply and not one of those outomated ones that say go to the forum that Jason is so fond of saying.


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[GS_Beastie]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gifBigMike,.... We have seen this "Tech Support Tactic Before"... Where They "Nail *One* Of Our Feet To The Floor" and all we can do is run around in circles...!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

CC:
riggs99
loncheek
PolecatXXX
Xalamander
Lt.FestusHaggin

[DavidKlinger]

Originally posted by GS_Beastie:
Cat,... Didn't Ubi ever Hear of "Beta Testing" before going for our money...!!!...???

My SideWinder2 does not work with this game...??? Its a Top Stick, and should work with this Game...!!!

To All that bought this Game...??? Please Tell us IF and WHAT JoySticks Work with this game...<:-))

[DavidKlinger]

Downloaded patch and did not fix the problem
with my LOGITECH JOYSTICK EXTREME 3D PRO
Does anyone know how to correct this issue this is getting to be a plain in the butt I thought
lOGITECH JOYSTICK EXTREME 3D PRO WOULD WORK WITH THIS GAME DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT JOYSTICK WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hanna111]

ok this is hanna i wanna tell you all something and only 1 somle thing you will all understand
the demo version of the game deosnt have a joystick options the full game has and it works with all joystick belive me guys download the full version 4 free of a free site or go wast your money on it buy buying when you can grab it free of the net any qustions let me no on my yahoo messenger my id is aggass2001 thats my yahoo id get on if you need help and another thing i need if any1 has a crack 4 that game i need it give it

[loncheek]

this issue is so f***ed up i just cant belive it ......cant u (ubisoft) configure our problem .....like ,all gamers have the same problem !

why the hck did i PAY 200 nis (israely money) for this "broken" (not tested) game ?!

*** and who is that DUMB girl wich wrote that you can download this game ....?!

the pach does not work .....i did nothing well ectualy it did ..... i fact my plaing was spining to the right .....now its spining to the left .....but less ! DONT WORRY i CAN still CRASH ! and thing about my 200 NIS !

im startingto get a load that "ubi" sucks ...!

SORRY ...! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

[celticdavid]

im am another one thats deeply p****d off with this game. have a sidewinder2 joystick that wont work with the game so went out and spent more money on a different type of joystick only to find out that this doesnt work. starts spining and crashes. Great so ubisoft wants us only to play with xbox controls, well put this on the back of the bloody game case them!!!
this just seems to be another letdown by ubisoft(lockdown?) i will not be buying anymore games made by them unless this problem gets fixed sharpish. think this game has cost me â£55 pound today all in and i cant use it... great... just great.. but i see im not allow in being let down.wish i had read the forums first before buy the game but should we have to after all the hype?.. they must have spent all the money on getting cool music and not enough people road testing the game first.

[Guwruw]

Originally posted by SsSsSsSsSnake:
Im sorry but 99% of people playing flying games on the pc use a joystick.How long does it take to test a joystick ,5 mins.
This is a serious major flaw in a major title.Im speechless how such a massive cockup could have been allowed,they should all be sacked!!

[Guwruw]

I can not believe a game that involves flying airplanes does not have the capability to use any joystick. Decades ago I was able to map any joystick to other flight simulators. This program may be state of the art but with archaic joystick mappings it's a real dissapointment. I will be returning my copy unless this major flaw is corrected ASAP.

[FearIncKiller]

Originally posted by DavidKlinger:
Downloaded patch and did not fix the problem
with my LOGITECH JOYSTICK EXTREME 3D PRO
Does anyone know how to correct this issue this is getting to be a plain in the butt I thought
lOGITECH JOYSTICK EXTREME 3D PRO WOULD WORK WITH THIS GAME DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT JOYSTICK WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! throttle not recognized you have to map to different buttons, change roll to stick, and turn to slider which is the twist . that will replace z and you wont roll until you push r or l on the stick

[FearIncKiller]

I think the reason the throttle isnt recognized is because the game see's the throttle as digital not analog like most flight sticks, aka.either accelerate or decelerate not a proportional increment such as 50% or whatever ,its either accel or decel...My logitech 3d extreme pro now works well after the patch , no z axis mapped anymore , roll is stick left and stick right , turn right is slider right , left is slider left . Others such as accel. and Decel. are set to whatever suits . Fun game just not a flight sim.

[dmflad]

FYI you all ...Here's Ubi's response to my email.....(extra spaces removed)
Subject :Ubisoft Store Support Request - Defective Product

Discussion Thread Response (Andrew) 04/06/2006 03:40 PMGMT Standard Time
Hello Deborah,

Thank you for contacting Ubisoft Customer Support. For exchanges/return for opened software you must contact Ubisoft Tech Support as they handle the replacement of such items if they determine if the complaint is valid. You can contact them at 919-460-9778

Regards,
Drew Customer 04/06/2006 11:45 AMGMT Standard Time
=== CONTACT INFORMATION===
Date Sent: 06 Apr 2006 11:35:37 GMT
ubi.com Username: dmflad@verizon.net
Name: Deborah Flad
Email: dmflad@verizon.net
Order Number: UBW-180616
Product: Blazing Angels
===QUESTION===
Topic: Defective Product
Question:
I want to return the product and I want a refund. Game does not play as advertised. Patch did not solve problems with joystick usage. I bought PC game for my PC! not XBox game. I pre-ordered. Keyboard control choppy at best so I bought joystick. Game will not recognise joystick! My free FlightGear and near free MicroFlight flying sims recognised and use joystick without any problem.

I want to return this baddly written PC game and I want my money back.

[colintve]

I have a Microsoft Sidewinder Force feedback (1) that I paid â£80 for when new.

I bought this game EXPECTING it to work with my joystick. Every other flying game I have ever bought does (lots of them too).

Even with the patch it does not work. The configuration screen is confusing, not explained in the manual and hangs repeatedly when I try to configure it.

It is seen immediately by Windows XP, and tests 100% perfect.

I worked in the tech crew on a Ubisoft conference once and saw the programmers. Loads of lowly paid foreign people, barely english speaking, and many girls. Obviously with programmers you must get what you pay for, and Ubisoft must have skimped on this game on all except the graphics. I chose between TOCA 3 and this and am now going to take it back to the shop and demand a refund based on the unmerchantable quality law and may even take it to court if I have to, to prove the point. If he shops lost a battle they may think twice abut taking games and selling them without some form of testing themselves, or at least it might make the games industry rip off companies be more careful. Cant see why they rushed this either, no specific timing issue.

Just some idiots at Ubisoft who are bad at their job letting a poor product go to market.

Ive seen complete demos smaller than their first patch which still didnt fix the jpystick issue

[SGAZoCS]

The patch does not work with the Demo. So I'm done with this one.

Good luck to all you folks who already paid for the PC game. You have really been abused. From what I saw of the game and the Forums it's clear this was never intended to be a PC game.

See ya all back at CrimsonSkies on GameSpy. It's only $10 and even though it is over five years old I've never heard of a joystick that couldn't be used with it.

gla

[lketchum]

WinXP Pro SP2
MS FF2 USB
ASUS P5AD2E-Premium
P4 3.2 GHz
2GB RAM
Nvidia 6800 256 MB
Using the 1.01 patch

Same issues as all others - Joystick simply does not work and when one can make it work, the function simply stinks - X, Y Axis are totally messed up and the Yaw is inconsistent at best. No force feedback except when firing.
This is the worst game I have ever seen and the worst set up UI, too. How could you guys release this POS to market in such shape? Fix it, or you're going to lose a lot of customers!

[RMcSlash]

Originally posted by FearIncKiller:
I think the reason the throttle isnt recognized is because the game see's the throttle as digital not analog like most flight sticks, aka.either accelerate or decelerate not a proportional increment such as 50% or whatever ,its either accel or decel...My logitech 3d extreme pro now works well after the patch , no z axis mapped anymore , roll is stick left and stick right , turn right is slider right , left is slider left . Others such as accel. and Decel. are set to whatever suits . Fun game just not a flight sim.

Except other buttons mapped to the throttle don't hold, as soon as you remove your finger the throttle returns to neutral. If you want to hold a speed you must keep pressing the button, and that speed is either max fast or max slow.

[Judge-ArchAngel]

i was able to configure my sidewinder ffb2 to use the throttle selector and it works just make sure its in the middle first then set it and as you slide it alittle the plane speeds up alittle and slide more speeds up more and same for slowwing down and yaw/rudder function with the twist of the joystick works too.

[GS_Beastie]

Hi JUDGE,.. yes with "Various Hilarious" setting combos you can get "Dubious Function"... BUT,... the "FLIGHT MODEL" is not right for Flight Sticks... Such as "Sensitivity" and such... And the BIG DOWNER for MS FFB2 is that the game turns off force in the stick when the Game Starts...!!! And with no Force turned on, there is NO CENTERING of the Stick, and Its JUST LIKE HOLDING A WET NOODLE...!!!...???...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Oh JUDGE,... Saying your Flight Stick Works... Is Like saying my Mother is a ******... BUT... I don't think you would find her vary satisfying...!!!...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[TAW_Kobalt]

I would like to know who decided to release this untested monkey **** on PC. This is exactly like Lockdown!

I installed the game, game worked (mostly) with my joystick (Saitek Cyborg EVO) but i couldnt configure the buttons. I installed your so called 'patch' and while I can now configure buttons for the joystick, pitch up and pitch down do not work.

For anyone thats waiting for patches to fix this, dont hold your breath. UBI has gotten its last dollar from me and if you are smart you will do the same.

[Buster12a]

Originally posted by MiziCat:
I have a MS Sidewinder Precision 2 and the game works fine with it. XBox=Microsoft!!! I can remapp the buttons too.

Hi MiziCat,

You say your Sidewinder Joystick works fine. Can you send me details of your drivers and set up as I am having problems with my two a Precision 2 and a Forcefeed back. Op System WinXP SP2

Thanks

[jimco7353]

I have saitek x52 and blazing angels nor does heroes of the pacific work. I have all ubi flight sims and have had light problems. But if you people can not test your system to the best systme out today then you need to get out of the busness. Maybe you should try something else like playing golf. I can not belief I pay for a game and the basic flight control does not work. You may not know this but your book says that flight works better with a joy stick.

signed probley will not buy from you again

[silver-squirrel]

This game fuc**** sucks, No joystick support what the hell. Just bought the game and just found the answer to my problem here. The answer is... Take it back immediately, and to think the this is the only game that I have ever purchased by looking at ratings. If I have to play with a keyboard, I give it a rating of **** -. What are you guys thinking (UBI) putting such a game on the market for PC enthusiasts. JUNK>>> Post a patch for joystick or burn in hell.

[pieriusw]

Tell us when we can expect anew patch.

[timchgo9_013]

Okay.... joystick issues, lots of them. My force feed back won't work, nor will my Logitech Extreme 3D pro...

But, contrary to all of what has been said here... the game IS playable. Maybe not to everyone's standards... it's not really to mine, but it does work. How? you might ask...

Well, I have a Logitech Dual Action game pad, and the game works with that. It's not perfect, but it is playable. I was playing with it last night, and while it takes some getting used to... the game pad works pretty well. You have to assign buttons, but, it seems that a couple of the functions are "hardwired" as it were, to specific buttons. Some tweaking with the game controls ,and it works fine.... okay, well, not totally fine. I would much prefer a joystick... but for now, it works, and that's all I was worried about. The Dual Action game pad is like 20 bucks at Wal Mart.... I bought it back about 3 months ago, when I bouth Call of Duty 2.....

Like I said, it's not perfect, but at least I can play....

The draw backs? Mapping the throttle to the right thumbstick...you have to keep it pushed forward when you want to fly at full speed.
The left hand trigger button (top) is the "camera tracking" and it's permanently assigned. Controls are sensitive, but with some practice, it works out. A joystick gives much more precise control, but for now, at least, I can play the game.

I know this isn't everyone's idea of a "fix" but I thought I would put it out there.

UBI.... You really need to fix the joystick problem.... Where is that patch?

[LTLionHeart]

This joke of a combat flight sim called Blazing Angels is an insult to pc sim gamers everywhere. I used to hold Ubisoft in my number one spot for trusted names to buy, guess where you are now. First of all you never fly in a combat sim looking at the butt of your plane!!Wheres the cockpit guys? Even with a simple one would do. Joysticks, cockpits, and flight sims are a marriage for the pc gamer. Ubi better get it together and resolve some of the issues in Blazing Angels, because the buck can be passed very quickly in this business.Shame on you Ubisoft!

[eluczak]

This was my second Ubisoft game and my last. I too like thousands of other unhappy customer cannot use a joystick on Blazing Angles. We were told the patch would address it but of course it did not. I have a MS Force Feedback and a Logitech joystick, neither of which are a cheap brand or one not in circulation yet there is no support. Tell me how you can fly a plane with up/down arrows. This is pitiful. I wasted good money on this game, waited for the patch which did NOT fix the problem and now own a 4 shiney frisbees. I will never ever buy Ubisoft software again. To release a game with such a flaw is unforgivable. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

[tloco28]

Please fix the joystick problem and I'll tell you what else to fix. I refuse to play on the keyboard. The only reason why I bought this game was because Ubi has a good reputation for gaming. Please don't let us down. Make a patch for the joystick. I can't believe my Microsoft Force Feedback 2 doesn't work with this game.
Thanks

[goonage75]

p.o.'ed about this game do what others are doing.
Check this Forum Post.


http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4281085773/m/1611041034/p/10

[dmaca007]

hi there,
I have just bought blazing angel and have a LOGITECH joystick on myn PC and am having
trouble ,like every one else.
Has anyone been able to obtain any new patch to solve the issues yet please?

cheers

[Rockfall_]

Nope, we all have no idea when the patch will come out, if it's ever going to come out!
For the mo patch 1.01 is all your getting!

[mtskybase]

Wow. All I can say about this game is. . Wow. I just purchased this today and have the Saitek X52 joystick as I see has been posted in the past. How can a PC game be released that does not at LEAST allow assigning controls on a joystick/pad. Whatever they tested with, they should have realized THIS if nothing else!

I can't even play the game on PC, as to increase throttle I have to twist my joystick and hold it twisted to the left to keep going. If I release it I lose throttle. I can't seem to go up and down, and my actual throttle doesn't appear to do anything. View Controls. What the hell?

This game's been out since MARCH, and you can't use a joystick? On a FLIGHT game? Are they seriously not giving peoples' money back or ANYTHING? I haven't heard any compensation offers at all and find this completely ridiculous.

If this isn't remedied quickly (as in IMMEDIATELY) you can be sure that I'll be to every link that I bring up in Google posting negative feedback about not only this game, but Ubi as a company. Pressing to keep people from supporting this company.

As sad as it is to see great companies go under due to lack of support, to see a company throw out such **** as this without ANY concern to resolving the issue immediately shows that Ubi cares not about it's customers, only it's bottom dollar.

"oh gee, let's port over this game to PC to get more money. Let's not change anything from the console versions and be sure not to fix the major issues that customers are having. When they rise up with issues, let's assure them a fix is coming out and then continue to ignore the issue. So the game failed. We 'tried', so sad. onward."

That's bull-****. I'm not one to go around complaining about everything but this is pretty major. And it's been a LONG time. It's a VERY basic testing phase to see what we're ALL seeing. They tested with gamepads. Is that SERIOUSLY supposed to make ANY difference as to the **** that was put out??

If I were a beta tester/programmer for a company and told them that I primarily used a touchpad and a few cheap joysticks that I had laying around from my Commodore Vic 20, I really don't think I'd still have a job. If I DID retain my job you bet your *** I'd be working diligently to get this resolved, and being sure that everyone KNEW how my progress was.

My gawd. Expect no further purchases by me, and as much negative word of mouth as I can possibly throw onto the internet if there is no sufficient resolution QUICKLY!

[jlira]

I played this game on my friends xbox 360 all weekend and we had a blast with it. Personally I'm a big PC gamer so I got really excited to see that there actually was a PC version. I was all excited when I finally downloaded and installed the demo - only to find that the joystick configuration program completely hoses itself when I try to map any of my joystick controls. I have one of the most widely used joysticks ever, a Logitech Wingman that works on every other game I've ever tried to play. I simply cannot believe that this game got released in its current condition. The graphics, sound, and gameplay are very impressive on this title but they are all useless if something so simple was untested. This game just simply does not work. I will keep an eye on these forums for peoples feedback and I damn sure won't buy it until everyone starts saying their issues have been taken care of. One point I would like to make here besides the obvious defectiveness of this game is the fact that the developer came on here and said this game was only tested with "Xbox style controllers".... what kind of sorry excuse is that?

PS - WHen you are fixing everyones joystick problem why dont' you go ahead and remove the references to the left trigger while you're at it.

[mcolle]

Hi i bought the game one week ago together with a force3d pro from logitech installed it all but wasnt able to assign my controls ok i tried it default, the game booted up and directly it begon to spin left all the time.
i have reconfigured left roll to other btn i dont use on my stick and that was solved.
i can play now on default key setings and my trottle worked also http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
today i found the update and i ran it, booted up the game settings and yes i could configger the keys.
booted the game up and my trottle doesnt work anymore ?!?
its key assignd now but no more trottle ;(
Seems my x-axes are ****ed with my turn left/right from the flightstick and i cannot fix it, anyone now how to fix it ?
think i have to wait for the next patch bummer...

my system spec are:

Asus sli deluxe
X2 4200+
1024gb ram
xfx 7900gt extrme
coolermaster 450watt
force 3d pro logitech

[n0b4ka]

for me, I have a problem with the control of gases

i can't go more slow or more fast with the joysitick... i am obliged of used the bouton s or z ....

[ilmrebel]

Loved heroes of the Pacific, patiently waiting on joystick patch for blazing angels as others are, a word of when the patch will come would be wonderful.

[mike_schoney]

I am having the same issues with setting my joystick controls properly...downloaded the most recent patch and the throttle slider does not work. also plane continues to roll left even when I am not touching the stick.

I am very disappointed that I spent $39.99 on a flight sim game that I can not play properly. I would not recomend this game to any other flight sim/figher game enthusiasts at this time.

I can't even get past the first screen with the current settings. Please let us know when you intend to fix this problem. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

[stymie2221946]

I saw that alot of you have recommended Crimson Skies. I recently purchased the game from EBAY. Could someone direct me to an active forum for the game? I'm having a few problems. Thanks!

[GS_Beastie]

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Here is some Good Info... If you have a Problem Leave a Post...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://p223.ezboard.com/fgreysquadronfrm5

[isaga01]

Has any progress been made to resolve these joystick configuration issues?

My MS Sidewinder joystick is useless with the game. All I have is left and right airleron control with synchronization with the rudder.

[RickNelson]

I just installed 1.02 patch hoping that you finally fixed the joystick problems and I see that you haven't! Why isn't my MS FF2 supported on this code? What a waste of money when a flight simulator won't even support a joystick

[FhaeTon]

Yeah this Game looks so good, only to totally let me down.

[realityforgone]

Ok this is what I have done to get my logitech extreme 3d pro to work properly.

The slider is refering to the rutter movement on your joystick (when you twist your joystick handle left and right) so the slider should be in the rudder option, also if you go to set up dive, climb roll left and roll right you will have the dive and climb show up in the config as actual buttons while the roll left and right are listed as axis buttons.

I hoped this helped

RF

[bunker00]

I just fly in circles when I use the joystick. I usally do not play Flight sims iam a huge fps dude anywys what a let down. I should have read these threads before i bought this game. I would rather play Atari or nitendo games. lol

[realityforgone]

You all have to be kidding me! This is an excellent game. After I installed both patches my joystick worked. All of these bad reviews based solely on a fricken joystick issue?! Why can't you guys figure this out? Here is a question how many of you in here know how to script? How many of your are game developers? How many of you are modelers and animators perhaps coders? to the point- if you think that a game is bug free your stoned. Suck it up and stop bashing a great game just because it didn't have an idiots guide to set your joystick up with. use your friggin brain.

RF

[Johnson_Gunnar]

realityforgone, why do you post such **** at all? If yours work go ahead and enjoy, but since mine doesnt i wait for another patch, because i dont get paid to solve this problem. i paid to gat a functional game, i dont want to spend more hours making it work then i will actually play it! As soon as you get 14 you will start to understand what "work" actually means. It means you want to spend your free time enjoying the toys you buy (with your own money then, not sponsored by mommy!) and not doing the developers job and bugfix them first!
Dont piss me off, cause generally i dont like preteens like you to talk about things they have no idea about! Now leave this board to what it is designed for, developing a bugfix.

[realityforgone]

Considering I am 27 and have been working in the Air Force for almost 10 years I think I know what work is.

On a side note I am involved in indie game development, I have a few projects that I am working on at the moment, I also host a website for my development team. Some of the engines that I work with are: Torque3D, 2D and TSE, FPSC, World craftor and the Irlicht engine.

Q: Have you ever wondered why most (good) programmers never
give a deadline for a new application, program or patch?

A: Things take time there is hundreds of thousands of strands of
code to sift through. most things in the programming world are
never black and white. You alter a strand here and then it
screws something else up so you fix that error and then it
messes something else up. Are you following this at all? Do
you see the pattern here? Good so stop complaining!

on another note...

I am going to assume based on the average post in this thread that none of you have ever tried to make a game or even an application in C++, Darkbasic, vbscript or jscript I think it may be safe to say as well that the average person here thinks that everything should be plug -n- play, that every piece of hardware will have a profile in every game ever made. Like I mentioned above you just need to be patient, I know Ubisoft is not going to shaft you on this one, you have to remember that while they are trying to troubleshoot this game they are making many more games. Have read about Assassin's Creed? I think you should it may put things in to perspective as far as how hard they work.

One last thing:

I find it kinda funny that you (Johnson_gunnar) would resort to personal attacks on a forum (it's a forum and in no way affects the real world around us) also it accomplishes nothing and in most cases turns in to nothing more than a flame war between two or three people. also have you heard of this saying:

"arguing on the internet is like winning a gold medal in the special olympics, no matter if you win or lose you're still ******ed in the end"

* Sorry if that offended anyone *

What I am trying to say is don't complain about what you do not have or have not been given, adapt to with what you do have and over come the obstacle in your way.

What is your joystick type? what are the problems you're having? I bet I can fix it.

RF

[Johnson_Gunnar]

OK reality, that is a basis, but it is you who told ppl to "use their brains" - i assume that was in no way meant insulting, in which case i would not have meant to insult you. But please forgive me if i don not consider the modus the game actually runs in as fine or OK. In the air force you say, then YOU should know how important quality is, how many planes did you work on? How many of them crashed? 0 i hope, but if i ask you how many errors you made, you most probably say 0 as well, YOU should know, that it is important to finish testing products before releasing them. I dont want to argue, neither with you nor somebody else, i only wish that the errors in this game are resolved without me having to learn a new skill.
And i dont want to read the flaming sh1t i had to read repeatedly in these forums and if you need to flame even though your game works, then i wonder why you do that and i get a little bit angry, because it is not really what i wish to read here.
Hopefully we can communicate in a more civilized way, now we started communicating at all, yeah, try solve the problems and then if you do, make it public here, send ubi the bill and receive my compliments.
I dont have that much free time, i dont want to solve problems on games i bought to have fun. I just dont want to.
So here is my call to you:
I have the standard joystick issue, buttons for axis etc. you can read it in different topics and additionally the sound started stuttering after patch 1.02 (before sound was no prob, joystick axis were working better) and i tried the "Hardware accel to 100%" which is standard setting. true i have onboard sound on a laptop, but the laptop is more than adequate to the game. 1.9 Gig P-m 1 GB ram GF 6800 256 MB
Tell me what you need to solve the problems and i try it. You bet you solve it, i hope you can.
But tell me why you started the "if you think that a game is bug free your stoned. Suck it up and stop bashing a great game just because it didn't have an idiots guide to set your joystick up with. use your friggin brain." sounds like flaming to me, what do consider so wrong about customer support? Did you manufacture all parts of the planes you worked on yourself if they were damaged? Coz that is what you ask of me if you say i should solve thos problem myself, im just curious.
best regards,
Gunnar

[realityforgone]

Think about it this way. Most of the people on these forums are here saying that this is the last game that they buy and what a horrible game it is. in all actuality BA is a great game. I also understand your discontent towards the "Joystick" support.
I am going to aska few questions about your settings for BA so please bare with me.

1) When you go to map the climb function does it show a button
or on an axis? (same with dive)
- I am assuming that it is showing as a button
2) Your throttle showing as a button as well? (2 buttons, one for
increase and one for decrease)
- I am going to assume that they are showing as buttons

- Click on the roll left and twist the handle of your joystick. you
should see one of two things: (this is refered to as the slider)
1) it shows as a button
2) (the most probable) it shows as the slider
- if it shows as a slider than your all set. alot of people say when
they start the game that they are constently rolling. if you
notice when you throttle down the roll slows and if it is dead
center you do not roll at all. This is due to UBIsofts lack of
attention to detail when they tested this game.
- when you map the laft and right axis they will show as an axis
but the up and down will show as buttons but they work
perfectly in the game.

I never hold a grudge. Hope to see you in a server one day.

RF

[totemdes1963]

Come on guys, pull your finger(s) out. This game screams to be played with a joystick, and after 2 patches, most of them still don't work properly. (My Cyborg Evo included). You managed to test 5? Don't strain yourselves, eh? It would be a tragedy if such a potentially great game is sidelined by such a small but fundamental issue. And wwhile your at it (if you are), how about a couple of difficulty settings, and the ability to save anytime. How easy to do, and how much more accessible it makes the game for everyone. Why waste all the hard work put in elsewhere (it looks truly gorgeous) over a few minor tweaks. Get it together for everyones' sake!

[realityforgone]

I agree this game is wicked! I have a feeling that the joystick issue has soemthing to do with how UBIsoft labeled certian buttons.

[Johnson_Gunnar]

reality, you are right about the settings, i was that far, that i could actually fly in 1.02, the plane just didnt behave well, it was impossible to aim at something. always oversteering or barely moving at all. That is not what makes me wonder, it is rather the fact, that at least the x/y axis were right in the 1.01 version, the rest still wasnt working , but the plane was reliable and the aim was right. The next thing really funny is that in 1.01 i have NO soundissues and cpu issues, but in 1.02 it is stuttering permanently, which also shoots my cpu to 100%. Agree, that there are more problems, but i need not solve one of them without the game being playable at all. Believe me, i tried a lot and i am no complete donkey but sticking with 1.01 is the best yet method. it is not perfect but it gives an idea of the games potential.
So now we decided all to be rather constructive, when you suppose it is related to UBIs labeling of buttons, that means they have to override the windows settings, since calibration is fine and somehow the signals are read. So what makes UBI twist the buttons? isnt directx and therefor directinput designed so exactly these things shouldnt happen? Like manually installing drivers in dos, hehe, whoever remembers the fun that was, one bootdisk for every game, hehe http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
The most disgusting thing is that UBI doesnt really say they were working on something?!
If there was one version working fine for us all, this game might become a nice mp game, but yet there would be two fractions - i use 1.01 against i use 1.02, leaving the i cannot play at all behind?!
Maybe it is the core of the problem, that the controls were adopted from console and are just not really compatible with PC?
Had anyone else issues removing BA in order to reinstall and use 1.01? I had to manually delete different files so it finally uninstalled, otherwise it always tried to patch itself (from 1.02 to 1.02, funny)??? If now only i had the time left to finish it at least once http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[realityforgone]

I think the issues concerning sensitivity are something that we are jusdt going to have to adapt to. When dogfighting I utilise all three views (follow, cockpit and chase) in each one the controls change but I find that in the cockpit view I am able to pinpoint aim. but in follow mode I am more accurate when I strafe the ground or the enemy airplanes. and chase well that is just to see how much tighter I need to turn to get the buggers of my back.

I think a few of us remember the good old day of DOS and bootdisks. like ultima and the 15 3.5's it took to install it. or when gif was the only or atleast the best thing to hit images since sliced bread. I think we should let those days die since I only get frustrated with how controling most OS's are these days.

The controls are compatable but they need to re-write the sensitivety portion. I think that they have it moving in to large of an incrament. they should have it moving by 1 degree as apposed to the 3 that I think it moves. a better way is to explain it in time. it should take you about 2 seconds to move 5 degrees, they have it set so you move 15-25 degrees in 2 seconds. in this lies the problem with sensitivity. I wonder if they would release the source code for this game (assuming that it is in C++) in fact all they need to do is release the portion that deals with joystick control. If they do this than I am sure it can be fixed with a case of coke and about 2 pizzas and one really really long night.

RF

[kojax40]

its seem to be a flaw in all the game if its involes joy stick ive have 2 games i cant use my joy stick every game i have i can use it but with your games never works right

[realityforgone]

When you think about it it comes down to the sensitivity problem. So hopefully UBIsoft will fix this issue.


RF

[Johnson_Gunnar]

i would like most, if they implemented adjustable sensitivity and joystick acceleration (the rougher you pull back, the rougher it climbs). cant be so hard, works with any egoshooter.

[realityforgone]

if they fixed the sensitivity problem then most of us would be deadly accurate.

[Aspa1429]

realityforgone is right. I messed with my joystick (force 3D) for about 1 hr and got it right. I just kept making adjustments then play the game and go back and make adjustments again. Yeah it's time consuming and a pain in the butt, but I tell ya once I got it the game was awesome. It really is way easier with a joystick. One of the most difficult things to deal with in the joystick settings was some things were backwards. Like the speed was on the stick axis, to make it work on the slider and like wise for the stick axis it was actually the slider in the settings. Same with turning right, it was actually left. You guys can figure it out, your gamers!!! Good Luck

[Thor_7_7_7]

Having joystick issues as well AFTER installing the patches. Worked perfect before... grrr I have a MS Sidewinder FF2. Only able to bank left and right, and not able to remap properly. Not going to waste my time either. Called EBGames where I bought the game, and they told me "Bring it back, your not the first...". I received a store credit and bought another game made by Firaxis and 2KGames <--- Kick ***!

When I see a change in the way Ubisoft conducts business they may get my loot. But not now.

P.S. Who the heck buys a flying game and uses their mouse and keyboard to fly? LMFAO!!! Here's a hint... call Microsoft and ask if they would let you borrow a programmer for an hour or two so we can get this fixed.

[JImc7535]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by realityforgone:
You all have to be kidding me! This is an excellent game. After I installed both patches my joystick worked. All of these bad reviews based solely on a fricken joystick issue?! Why can't you guys figure this out? Here is a question how many of you in here know how to script? How many of your are game developers? How many of you are modelers and animators perhaps coders? to the point- if you think that a game is bug free your stoned. Suck it up and stop bashing a great game just because it didn't have an idiots guide to set your joystick up with. use your friggin b

Not every one has the time or the know how to do what your asking. But further why should me when we paid $40.00 for a game that is sappose to use a joy stick and we can not. If the developer wants us to rebuild his product then may be we should pay $10.00 for this prodduct.
This is not the first product that a developer has rush on to the market just to sell it before all the bugs have been worked out and my commite is then we should not buy their product until maybe 6 months to a year and maybe they will get the idea will are willing to pay for somthing that works the first time not 6 months to a year latter and maybe they will never update like Heroes of the pacific which has been out for sometime and no updates and I have yet been able to pay for it. I think if we stop buying this sims right after they come out the developer well spend more time before the market and sell it.
This is just an idea.

[stroler1]

I accept this is not a simulator...but it’s the best darn looking flying game, simulator or arcade, ever!!
Overall it feels like a great game but it is un-flyable on any joystick...feeling rather like a 4 way switch without sensitivity settings or dead zone or anything...bring over the control assignment menu from IL2 FB AEP Pacific Fighters!
Here’s a thought: What do flying games have in common? A joystick! Why? Coz that’s what makes a complicated thing like flying work!
What’s the diffs between a flight sim and an arcade flight game: Arcade is to be easier, right! Anyone can fly it without a joystick.
But what about the flyboys like us that have joysticks? For us it should be a breeze then. Well in this game most sticks don't function as they should. My MS Precision Pro won't function. A Genius Maxfighter sort of works: sort of? Well the stick functions like a 4 way switch: I cannot hone into a target!! I correct...over correct...back correct...until just grab my mouse to nose in on my target....huh?!? That’s not right!!! A joystick is supposed to make flying easy!!
Ubisoft's IL2 FB AEP & Pacific Fighters could detect and control more than one stick at the same time. They all functioned like a dream: smoothly...not like a 4 way switch. Onto arcade flying: Well what about the Battlefield Series of games: that’s arcade flying! But there the flying works on both keyboard and joystick like a dream. It works...with separate elevator, aileron and rudder functionality! Remember its arcade and its simple. So let’s make it work like Battlefield 1942/Vietnam/2 with in-game configuring without accepting button conflicts and with an option to remove stick button assignments (game pause on a stick? Never!)

[El Gavstar]

i agree totally, my game joystick works fine with Battlefield 2 and other flight games, and yet in Blazing Angels I can't use it because it doesnt recognise the slider as up or down. According to it the Slider is always moving up

[GS_Beastie]

********************** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif*********************
Pilot Stroler & Ubi,...

I find this Post by Pilot Stroler, to be Sincere, and to the Point...!!!...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Now its time for "You Ubi Dev's" to STEPUP and FINISH Coding this BA Game, and come out with "PATCH 1.03"... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[realityforgone]

if your joystick twists at the handle BA will call that movement the slider and your throttle should show up as two seperate buttons.

[StealthSteve197]

I am also amazed at the fact that my joystick (Saitek Cybord Evo) does not function with Blazing Angels. I am with snake, nearly everyone that goes out to buy a flight game / simulator expects to be able to use their joystick. It's ridiculous trying to control the plane with the keyboard and mouse. The game looks and sounds great, but it was a major let down when I realised my joystick does not work. Lets all hope the people responsible to fix this do so and fast!

[realityforgone]

Now I am not going to try and sounds like a jerk, but what else have you guys done besides post in these forums?

[Mikevv]

I'v tried loading both patches and seem to have a problem with the loading of the first patch. The second one keeps on saying that the first one must be installed first. Any ideas?

[RMcSlash]

Someone posted somewhere here that you need to play the game between loading the first patch and the second, give that a try.

[Shardvark2006]

Originally posted by stroler1:
I accept this is not a simulator...but it’s the best darn looking flying game, simulator or arcade, ever!!
Overall it feels like a great game but it is un-flyable on any joystick...feeling rather like a 4 way switch without sensitivity settings or dead zone or anything...bring over the control assignment menu from IL2 FB AEP Pacific Fighters!
Here’s a thought: What do flying games have in common? A joystick! Why? Coz that’s what makes a complicated thing like flying work!
What’s the diffs between a flight sim and an arcade flight game: Arcade is to be easier, right! Anyone can fly it without a joystick.
But what about the flyboys like us that have joysticks? For us it should be a breeze then. Well in this game most sticks don't function as they should. My MS Precision Pro won't function. A Genius Maxfighter sort of works: sort of? Well the stick functions like a 4 way switch: I cannot hone into a target!! I correct...over correct...back correct...until just grab my mouse to nose in on my target....huh?!? That’s not right!!! A joystick is supposed to make flying easy!!
Ubisoft's IL2 FB AEP & Pacific Fighters could detect and control more than one stick at the same time. They all functioned like a dream: smoothly...not like a 4 way switch. Onto arcade flying: Well what about the Battlefield Series of games: that’s arcade flying! But there the flying works on both keyboard and joystick like a dream. It works...with separate elevator, aileron and rudder functionality! Remember its arcade and its simple. So let’s make it work like Battlefield 1942/Vietnam/2 with in-game configuring without accepting button conflicts and with an option to remove stick button assignments (game pause on a stick? Never!)


regedit worked great for me.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ubisoft\BlazingAngels\{ 2CBE667E-1193-47DC-852E-2CB4747C12E3}\Joy bindingsBA

Give it a try. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[doobie61]

I just bought this thing. Wish I had seen this forum before I bought it so I could have saved the money, but I was in Best Buy and I saw it...

Not much of a gamer myself. Bought this for my 13-year-old son. So I'm a bit stupid, and I haven't figured out how to map the controls yet.

Can't get past the first training flight. As soon as I take off, the whole scene starts spinning, and I crash about 100 yards past the end of the runway. (I'm at work right now, and the game is at home.) Is this related to the joystick slider being the rudder control? (Have the Logitech 3D pro.) Even if it is, should the whole scene be spinning rather than just the plane? It's enough to make you seasick.

[SScape]

I have Saitek Cyborg Evo JS and it is useless. Any reasonable or reasonably intelligent person should expect that you can READILY use any mainstream joystick with a flying game and be pissed when it doesn't.
I dug a Saitek Rumblepad [URL=http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/P2500.htm] out that I stored away and barely ever used and that works, sort of. The ironic this is that every button is programmable, except the two joysticks which you need for pitch & roll, so you are stuck using buttons or the D-pad which is downright painful after a while, and you fly like a moron as well.
This is still a drag and this is the last game I buy before I hear from gamers about it. UBI gets the Booby prize on this title. Sort it out damnit!

[edressme]

I have worked with C++ Object oriented programming and can appreciate the enormous chore debugging such a huge programme can be. But that was long ago and I just don't have the smarts for it. I come to this discussion board to see if someone can help. I'm sure in time some fix will occur but in the meantime I would like to enjoy the game. Unfortunately the forum seems to be mostly vent, gas and boast and down right rudeness. I think you might know better than most an approach to take. I have NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra video card and DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) and Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 and Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+, MMX, 3DNow, ~1.8GHz and 1024MB RAM and am using Wingman Force 3d. Fiddling with the joy stick config menu I've had some small success mapping button 1 for main weapon and slider for throttle but that's all. What could I do to improve the situation if you don't mind my asking. edressme@hotmail.com As you can tell I'm not used to using forums


Originally posted by realityforgone:
Considering I am 27 and have been working in the Air Force for almost 10 years I think I know what work is.

On a side note I am involved in indie game development, I have a few projects that I am working on at the moment, I also host a website for my development team. Some of the engines that I work with are: Torque3D, 2D and TSE, FPSC, World craftor and the Irlicht engine.

Q: Have you ever wondered why most (good) programmers never
give a deadline for a new application, program or patch?

A: Things take time there is hundreds of thousands of strands of
code to sift through. most things in the programming world are
never black and white. You alter a strand here and then it
screws something else up so you fix that error and then it
messes something else up. Are you following this at all? Do
you see the pattern here? Good so stop complaining!

on another note...

I am going to assume based on the average post in this thread that none of you have ever tried to make a game or even an application in C++, Darkbasic, vbscript or jscript I think it may be safe to say as well that the average person here thinks that everything should be plug -n- play, that every piece of hardware will have a profile in every game ever made. Like I mentioned above you just need to be patient, I know Ubisoft is not going to shaft you on this one, you have to remember that while they are trying to troubleshoot this game they are making many more games. Have read about Assassin's Creed? I think you should it may put things in to perspective as far as how hard they work.

One last thing:

I find it kinda funny that you (Johnson_gunnar) would resort to personal attacks on a forum (it's a forum and in no way affects the real world around us) also it accomplishes nothing and in most cases turns in to nothing more than a flame war between two or three people. also have you heard of this saying:

"arguing on the internet is like winning a gold medal in the special olympics, no matter if you win or lose you're still ******ed in the end"

* Sorry if that offended anyone *

What I am trying to say is don't complain about what you do not have or have not been given, adapt to with what you do have and over come the obstacle in your way.

What is your joystick type? what are the problems you're having? I bet I can fix it.

RF

[belfastkiller]

nothing will fix this game its to late even if ubi were to give u all a working patch

[RMcSlash]

Since Saturday night, July 29 cant even get online, (not that there is any reason to)keep getting incorrect account name. Same name I usr here, their tech got back to me within 1 hour to say;
Response (Jason) - 08/01/2006 23:01
This issue is currently being worked on by the development team for Ubi.com.
Unfortunately, we do not have an ETA on when it will be resolved, but it should
not be long.

[buffordjw]

Surprised they even returned "your call."

[RMcSlash]

Very!

[belfastkiller]

lol the issue is being worked on they said that about the patch and it was a long wait
i wonder if they are gonna surprise us and add new stuff to the game
why should they even bother no one cares about the game
i would be happy with getting are money back witch is way to late now lol

[mad_dude3]

Well at this point Id say "this game is dead" and UBI finally delivered the death blow.
THANKS UBISOFT
PS
NEVER AGAIN

[realityforgone]

So can you guys play this game at all? Or are you being little girls about it? Seriously this game is not bad at all. My buddy has some software that can get most sticks to work. I will see if I can find a link for it and then post it here.

RF

[belfastkiller]

realityforgone its to late even if there is a fix for the game people waited so long to get to play the game there still is joystick issues, people paid money to have to wait months to even get playing
no one plays multiplay no more
some guys are have problems trying to get on to multiplay as their passwords are not working
if you like the game you will be playing single play and that gets boreing after a while

[RMcSlash]

realityforegone-I have as many hours, if not more, in this game than anyone. Most of those online. Belfast is right, playing the same three people over and over again is just not why I bought this game. You might have known that if you read other threads.
My logitech extreme 3d pro works fine after the second patch, and I have posted my set up screenshots in several places here.
As of right now the online matchmaking service has been repaired and is functioning.
The Problem is UBI's screw ups have killed online play. There is no one there, and you cannot play coop by yourself.
Not being able to play online by yoursaelf against the AI's and not being able to enter a game already started were fatal flaws.
I will check this forum occasionally

[BIGDANO]

Wow! I just bought this game today...looks like I'll be taking it back tomorrow. It looked really good on the shelf, but after reading all this, forget about it. I made sure to ask CompUSA what their return policy is...I'll get in-store credit because it's open.

BTW, I've fully patched the game and I'm still having the same joystick issues as everyone here with my Saitek Cyborg Evo.

Big let down. Pretty sad.

-Dano

[realityforgone]

well as of now there are 7 people where I work that now have this game and are having a blast playing it. As far as online play goes I think they are waiting till they are a little better to play online.

the joystick issue- there is software out there for most joysticks thay will load a profile for htis game and it will also correctly map the joystick. I am suprised that no one's even mentioned this or tried this. Who gives a **** if UBIsoft hasn't written a newer patch yet, do any of you know how long it takes to write one? I am guessing not...though I know someone will chime in and say that they dop understand the full process of patching a game and that scripting is not hard at all. bu tthats ok I hardl doubt anyone besides a select few have ever hard coded anything. as for me I am in school for a software engineering degree, so there is no down fall for experiance on my end when coding is in question. just give it a little fricken more time and they will fix this. or youc ould open your damn eyes do a little research and fix the problem yourselfs!

[stroler1]

In reply to edressme,

Well one must understand that the product in question is not shareware, one expects purchased products to do what they are intended for. In this case to "virtually" fly in combat.
I have flown almost every single WWII fixed wing combat flight simulator there is. This goes back to even before European Air War from Mircoprose. Prior to this though flight sims were truly in the realm of arcade with 80's styled graphics.
My point: Combat flying is very specific. If your controller isn't sensitive enough to hone you onto your target...then don't bother.

You won't survive a combat environment!

Sure this is no simulator...but only insofar as vehicle system and flight plan management.
The basic flight experience should be no different from any other flight simulator. Arcade or Simulator.
I've flown many arcade shooters which include flight vehicles, real and futuristic.

So you ask what’s my point?

Flight games or gamers are synonymous with joysticks, right?
Or do I miss the plot?
Point is: I have never experienced such a poor controller interface ever!

I hear your point about game programming and repairing game code and that we who are complaining have never programmed anything. That’s right. I've also not taken a cent from anyone under false pretences.
This game professes to work with any and I quote "windows compatible joystick or game pad".
I have purchased 2 more joysticks and a game pad to see if they would function with this game. No luck.
Luckily or unluckily I received Blazing Angels as a gift. So the money that I have spent on controllers is not compounded onto the cost of the game. Although this now exceeds the cost of the game.
Ubisoft have misrepresented the truth. And you seem to hint confusion as to why we are all so disgruntled about our joysticks not working.

Well as an experienced "flyboy" let’s put a few things into perspective.
Not in 15 years have I seen such appalling controller sensitivity in a flying game. And oh yes I have successfully configured the one stick that goes work, slider problems or not! So wow yes it works!
All those that have said that their sticks work perfectly please raise your hands and answer me this:
When you try and gently hone your plane's nose onto your target, and please not using your mouse but your sticks, do you have enough flight knowledge and experience to realize that in this game, and no other flight game that I am aware of for that matter, that your ailerons, elevator and rudder have only full flap or no flap functionality.
You keep a plane in the air with that type control and I'll kiss your ***. Forget even trying to stay alive and shoot an enemy down in a full aerial combat environment.
Simply put:
Joysticks in this game don't function the way that they have in all other flight games I’ve seen in the last 15 years.
I don't want to slander Ubisoft.
I think this is undoubtedly graphically the most appealing flight simulator that I have ever seen.

I have stopped trying to fly it. I’ve completed to beyond the Midway campaign. I sincerely hope that Ubisoft attend to these issues.
And please accept that these are real & sincere issues.
I am not just baulking for the sake of it. I am eagerly anticipating playing this game through...and in fact starting all over again.

But this time flying it...not trying it.

[realityforgone]

@stroler1- Finally someone who makes a worthy argument with out bashing a comapny that was only releasing this game for console and then decided to release it for PC at the last minute. yes this game was tested on a D pad so of course the joystick is going to be janky. an unfortunant mistake....but UBIsofts rep is on the line witb this one and no major company can afford to have one of there titles destroy their credability.......

I know that the CS people are not very intelligent, but they are not the ones who make the calls. so i guess what I am saying is we shoudl think about the possibilities of a new patch to fix the issue. they will release one eventually but it is going to take time...every joystick company needs to be tested for compatability and then code needs to be written for each joystick..you cna thank all of the companies for having off the wall drivers and configs for this issue.

RF

[belfastkiller]

it should have not been released for the pc
with out being tested
we waited so long on a patch that did not fix the joystick issues
there is no support
ubi took us all for suckers and got our money

i feel sorry for the new guy who goes out and buys this game with out checking here first

[realityforgone]

Belfastkiller--You've got to be a moron at this point in the conversation.

reason:

You have not paid any attention to anything that has been said or discussed. You obviously have no idea as to the time it takes to patch a simple glitch let alone a full out rewrite of the controller interface. You haev not really said anything of any value concerning this issue besides your anger towards UBIsoft. Things do not just fix themselves nor do they get fixed over night.
I realise that UBIsoft has many offices to include two in the states, one in canada (montreal) and variouse other offices in europe. with the current project they are working on (assasins cread) they are have all of their resources tapped out... you may ask what the hell does this guy know about anything and here is my answer:

I have am persueing a bachelors in software engineering. I have a certifacation in A+ tech, A certification in IT Technology, and a certification in CSA (Client support admin) I know a little about what I am talking about.


so chill the heck out and relax a bit, go ***** some where else.

RF

[RMcSlash]

Dude, belfastkiller was one of the earliest players in the game and on the forum, and has put up with enough **** from the early bashers of the game. He was a major supporter of the game and online play. But after a while, as so many gave up on the game and stopped going online, it lost its appeal. At least that is what happened to me. I was one of the biggest supporters and players of the game.
There have been two patches, that didn't fix enough of the problems to save the game.
You need to hear what we are posting, the game is through.
There is no one online.
The online matchmaking service collasped last weekend and was down for 4 days.
This is a great game, but because of STOOPID marketing decisions, was released without proper testing.
Sure, give the devs time to fix the problems. Doesn't mean I shouldn't be posting that UBI was completely lame in the release of the game for PC.
Before the patches came out I tried the Joy2key fix it sucked, very poor control.
The point isn't about giving them time to fix it, the point is that the delays in the fix have killed the game.
Perhaps a few months from now a small group using xfire will still occasionally play the game, and I could very well be among them. But as for clans and full servers, or just opening the game and finding a match, it's done.

[belfastkiller]

the game is dead i dont care how long it takes to make a patch we were all sold a game that need to be fixed when did you get the game are you happy with it
99 percent of the people here are not happy with buying a broken product
we have waited so long for it to be fixed
even if it does be fixed no one plays online no more ure lucky to get 4 or 5 now online
i had no problem i use a control pad
i bought the game for multiplay
if youre looking to play online its dead
i would like to see the game fixed with a good patch and find lots of people online
but i think its to late
ubi has not been to this forum in along time
i dont think there will be anymore patches
lots of us are angry
i will keep comming here if the game picks up i will be there
some of use here have tryed to keep the game alive but it did not last long
have you any ideas to get the online up again

[belfastkiller]

i dont know how much people bought this game for the pc
i would reinstall the game if there were 25 to 30 regulars online most nights
but its not gonna happen there were at least 20 regulars rmcslash myself and some others but it just got smaller and smaller then it was no fun just a couple of us playing
i would like to see this game become a graet online game
i would like to see an organised week end of dogfighting with full servers
if you think you can organise one i will be there
but i think none will be intrested

[GS_Beastie]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif
Pilot Reality,...

Pilot's, Killer and Slash are a Good Part of the BackBone of this Forum from it's Beginings...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif They have been here "Giving Comfort & Support" to fellow Pilot's for months now...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

1) Killer was just stating a "Matter Of FACT"...
2) Killer fly's this BA Game with a GamePad... He just pretends his PC is a XBOX...
3) I would be HONORED to be Killer's or Slash's WingMan anytime...
4) Yes,... I'm waiting for BA Patch 1.03 so My FF2 Stick does not work "Like a Light Switch"...!!!???

(((5))) Reality,... Number five is for You... You said IT... You Stepped in IT... """ full out rewrite of the controller interface""" Have YOU contacted "Ubi" asking them if you could take care of this "Flight Stick" issue for them...??? Sense You have not Helped ONE Pilot solve One Problem YET in this BA Forum... This could be Your chance to help "ALL THE PILOT'S" that Fly or Buy this BA Game... You would be Our HERO...!!! And WE ALL Would Be Deeply Indebted To You...

NOTE TO ALL PILOT'S: Please step in "ANY" thread, and ask for Help, or Give "Help & Support" to Fellow Pilot's that come to this BA Forum...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

P.S. Pilot's,... Meet Belfastkiller or Slash on X-Fire for "Combat Flight Training"... They will "WHIP Your A$$" into shape in no time at all...!!!...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[belfastkiller]

reality forgone we are not flaming we would like a bit of life back in this game
you said there is seven of use
i have started a thread if you want a challenge and some online fun reply to the thread and hopefully we can make a week end out of it
does not matter who wins or looses

[RMcSlash]

it
does not matter who wins or looses
Ya sure it doesn't LOL

[realityforgone]

I will see what I can do to organise something. I have asked UBIsft to release the flight control section from the Source code but they will not release it. some problems noted:

In a real aircraft when you bank say 25 you should move about 3 to 5 degrees a second. in this game you move 15-20 degrees a second. also the three views offer different flight controls when they should be uniformed. As far as the joystick issue there should be a section of code dealing with compatability that has the .dll's lsited for each joyustick. so when the joystick is used the engine will know what dll file to use for the interface. I can only solicit the source code again but I doubt they will release this to me.

as to the rest of you but at least now there is something going on in these forums. the worst thing you an do is let up the constructive dissapointed statements. remember once you take to an anger style of speach you loose the objects interests since they would rather not respnd or work with someone or for some people who do nothing but bash them. there is always more than one way to approach the problem and it seems that it has been done the wrong way by all people not excluding myself.

RF

[brbllrd]

A note on the Saitek Evo JS.. I have one, and managed to get it to work. Use the Profile Editor software that comes with the JS, and map your X and Y Joystick axes to the mouse X and Y axes. I have quite a bit of trouble with the SettingsManager.exe app, it doesn't seem to recognize the buttons on my JS properly - but that isn't news to anyone who has read a few of these posts. I was able to use to map a few buttons properly (secondary fire and follow camera).

Last suggestion I have is after mapping your JS axes, start the game, and turn the mouse sensitivity down. It helped me a bit, though I still don't feel 100% in control when I'm flying.

Which brings up a question - anybody have any strafing suggestions? Take a deeper angle, or a shallower one?

I'm 100% on board with realityforgone regarding the sensitivity, it needs to be toned down a bit. How about a nice, pretty slider bar under the game options, and we can take it from there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks!

(Nice looking game, BTW)

[oxyQbot]

Wow. 6 hours and the game still wont work.

Unfortunatly for me, I use a logitech attack 3 joystick. Patch 1.01 works, but the camera stays focused on the runway. 1.02 fixes the camera angles, but now the joystick does not work - at all. Like it's not even plugged into the computer. I can map the keys with 1.01 and 1.02, but not without, as it only reads 'slider up' no matter where the slider is positioned. Its been 6 hours and I have only seen the first 30 seconds of training day.

Are flight simulators new to gaming? Who at Ubisoft figured that for 20+ years everyone else has been doing them wrong, and they had all the answers? The fact that PC gamers might be using joysticks was a suprise, was it?

Ubisoft, someone in your company simply does not know what they are doing. You might want to find out who before the 'Ubisoft' becomes internet slang for crapware.

[belfastkiller]

oxy the game is not a sim its arcade if you realy want to injoy it get a control pad there is no issues with the control pad as far as i know
check the for to all you new guys thread its realy for all

[gustavovo]

My joystick (Logitech Wingman Force 3d) doesn't even is recognized. I simply can't configure my joystick, don't need to say that it doesn't work on game, like itsn't plugged.
It's a really shame the way the support act, like they hadn't the obligation to support us, when id contact the support, they just said to me "go to our forums" what type of support is this? I'm in the forum, i have my patches installed, and my problem stills. I just can't understand how they let things like this happen and act this way, feeling like it should be so...
I paid for this game, so some support is nothing more than our rights, as a game that works the way it should, and their obligation (ubisoft) to release patches with corrections for the joysticks. Yeah, simply because its a flying game, what implicate that it has to be played with joysticks. Or they may think that we appreciate to play it on keyboard? WAKE UP! I PAID FOR IT, so work on it.

[realityforgone]

Gustovo- Have you installed the the joystik drivers or the profiler? If the joystick is not being recognised it is most likely a driver issue. Logitech seems to be on of the only joysticks that will work with this game.

My logitech EX 3D Pro was workign just fine and then all of a sudden it was not being recognised. All I did was reinstalled the drivers and the profiler, everything works just fine now.

RF

[gustavovo]

Theres no drivers, just the profiler installed, all games works okay, just this .... doesn't.

[realityforgone]

If there is a profiler than it loads drivers. but anyway.. I know of a few people to include myself that have had this problem. ALl we did was reinstall the profiler and it worked.

RF

[thegreatvirus]

Okay, but not with me. When i try to map the keys, it says "select a joystick", the only problem is THERES NO JOYSTICK TO SELECT. Its annoying.

[realityforgone]

What joystick are you using?

[gustavovo]

I'm using Logitech Wingman Force 3D, with the profiler, already reinstalled it, nothing changes.

PS: thegreatvirus is me. I logged with the wrong account.

[realityforgone]

I am snooping the logitech webstie and am wondering what version you have (profiler/driver) yes it has drivers that getloaded with the profiler. anyways here is the link to the direct download for the current profiler.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/GB...1786,contentid=11024 (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/GB/EN,CRID=1786,contentid=11024)

download this and install it and see if it works.

RF

[gustavovo]

Yeah, i'm using the last version (4.60) and i do have direct 9.0c...

[gustavovo]

Maybe should i reinstall my system? LOL!
Itsn't easier they do their work?
Isn't easier they patch these issues?
Come on, i'm not the only one.

[l1ake]

My father and I have spent a lot of time trying to get BA to work correctly. We've tried 3 sticks and 2 different profilers with no success. If we got one thing right, other things would be messed up. This morning I decided to test how the different versions of BA (1, 1.01, and 1.02) worked with the 3 joysticks I have (Attack 3, Extreme 3d pro, and X52). 1 and 1.01 actually work correctly in terms of pitch and turn. 1.02 turns the pitch and turn into buttons rather than a sensative axis. So this is what I came up with. I can get the Extreme 3d pro to work correctly with version 1.01 (i.e. using the first patch). Basically, you do nothing. The turn and pitch are all ready set. In the game settings, the speed is bound to the twist axis - slider up and slider down (for some lame reason it wont recognize the throttle axis). To get your speed on your throttle axis rather than twist, go into the logitech profiler and set the axis properties of the throttle to throttle mapped to: twist. Next you must make the profiler override the settings in BA. Go to options > Global Profiler Settings and click apply persistant profile and set it to your BA profile. And there you have it. The rest of the joystick buttons bind properly (and understand that your hat switch counts as 8 more buttons). Oh, and oddly, the plane wants to roll using some z axis that I dont even have working, so I had to bind the roll to buttons on the stick to prevent endless rolling in game. This set up is not like a flight sim. The x axis does not roll the plane, it turns the plane. BA is no flight sim. If it were, there would be no such thing as an endless knife edge and yaw would actually be somewhere in the control settings. In any case, good luck and I hope this helps some of you who have been severly disappointed by the lack of joystick support.

[cuervo603]

im using patch 1.02 logitech extreme3dpro joystick actually works keys are named wrong (sliders) etc. but it works. now the only problem is finding a way to set the sensitivity.. wingman profiler seems to not work.. if your having issues.. try this.. to clear your calabirations and try again.. hope this works.. would really like to play online http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US...ID=1,softwareid=5484 (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/software/US/EN,CRID=1786,contentid=7304,OSID=1,softwareid=5484 )

[UKDutyPa1d]

Originally posted by belfastkiller:
oxy the game is not a sim its arcade if you realy want to injoy it get a control pad there is no issues with the control pad as far as i know
check the for to all you new guys thread its realy for all

Get a control pad? Maybe I am simple for desiring to be able to play with a joystick, not the keyboard, not a gamepad?

My joystick works with every other game I have had, maybe UbiSoft should be thinking about sorting this out themselves rather than putting the emphasis on the people who have paid good money for a faulty game? Don't blame me for being a sucker and not checking these forums first lol - I am going to remember this lesson for a very long time. Don't purchase a game before you have checked the forums just because a company has made working games before.

That was my savings I used, have I no right to be disappointed?

[stroler1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by UKDutyPa1d:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by belfastkiller:
"if you really want to enjoy it get a control pad there are no issues with the control pad as far as i know"

Well, I support UKDutyPa1d: Why should we get game pads just for this game? Well, he might not have. I did. Just for this game...and guess what...surprise, surprise!!! It doesn't work either...this has become a huge joke for me...I'll “stickâ€Â� to the games I have already. ( I now tested 3 joysticks and one game pad…the box says: â€Â�Windows compatible joysticks and game padsâ€Â�….huh…which Windows? Like Microsoft’s XP?

In an industry that is nearly the size of the Hollywood Movie Making Industry this should not be acceptable.

My worry now is that this forum is starting to die out too........is die Developer even taking notice of this? Is he working on fixing the problem...with no official response I'm beginning to doubt it....(UBI please read my two previous posts…reasonable troubleshooting assessment for you there…if you are interested at all!!!)
Good riddens UBI!!!

[Proud_Monkey]

Another Attack 3 post - not happy. I can't play the game, what's the point?

[gustavovo]

Still waiting for them to start to work... What about it? When will i be able to play it decently (i mean, with joystick)?

[northyork]

I upgraded my computer and now have g force 7900 gt and 2.2 ghz mem and after remapping throttle and stick left and right did encounter sensitivity issues as well as cockpit turns that were more like flat rudder turns on the training level but as I played further the controls ans cockpit view behaved s they should and noe the game is playable with joy stick. The irony is other games that were working well now have issues.

[dgross32]

Oh My God, what the Hell is this?? First off, I'm a huge fan of Microsoft Combat Flight Sim 2, and have played it for years, I noticed tha Ubisoft now has their logo on the package for CFS2 and thought for sure that they had developed a version based on it for Blazing Angels. No Such Luck!! There's not even a rudder control!! This game should have been designed primarily with a joystick controller in mind, then maybe I could put up with the stupid German cracks being repeated over and over again Like so many that I have read here, I've removed it from my hard drive and shelved it as totally useless. Just let me say this first off, I'm a big fan of both Brothers in Arms games, LOVE them, I have Ghost Recon Gold Edition and Ghost Advanced Warrior, loved them all. Then on the other side, I have Rainbow 6 Lockdown (where it kills frame rates as well as it does enemies all the while the Characters are making like John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever) and Blazing Angels, which are collecting dust. I think Ubisoft owes us all an apology for such a disasterous game, $60 down the drain.

[noginhead]

HOLY **** if this dev doesn't patch the problem with the Sidewinder 2 we will burn the game en masse on the street. What the hell were they thinking....the first desent game since CS and no Sidewinder support? What a load of ****!!! It worked before the 1.01 and 1.02 patch. What the hell happened guys?
email me the answer if you get it noginhead@msn.com no attachments please!!!

[GS_Beastie]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

*** Long Live "Crimson Skies" Playing At The "GameSpy Servers" ***

http://www.members.aol.com/normtrudeau/CS600x450.jpg

[noginhead]

Nice picture Beastie...is that an X-wing? I wouldn't mind a few CS rounds...not that I'm worth a **** anymore. Any good servers?

[gungho_uk]

I didn't realise this was an old game, just saw it in-store & bought it 2 days ago. It worked with my Cyborg Evo. Then I installed 1.01 & 1.02 patches & the stick wont work at all. This is the last time I buy ANY game bu UBI, wheter it has a stick or not. Bunch of f***ing amateurs.

[noginhead]

I bought a Logitech Force Feedback 2 modeled after the playstation pad and love it. It works great and only costed about 40 bucks. The vibration feature doesn't work, but the controller works great with the game even after the updates. Also, if you're running a laptop, visit the video card manufacture's website to update it, then run the game on low graphics. The graphics still look great on low.
-nogin

[berserker65]

I use a Saitek Evo.
I can turn left and right, no pitch, no throttle.
Come on UBI, get with it.. Or your going to loose money.

[p51mustang42]

would a logitech wingman attack 3 work for blazing angels?? i baught one for 35bucks BETTER WORK

[pink_is_blue]

Try this :

Download joystick2mouse
(http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Mouse_and_...ystick_2_Mouse.html) (http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Mouse_and_Keyboard_Utilities/Joystick_2_Mouse.html))
or some other utility that allows u to control the mouse with your joystick.

Then in the game settings activate the mouse controls (enable default 2). Set up the keys associations and play.
I’m using a Saitek ST90 and it works like a charm.

[NO.FEAR1963]

I got my Logitech to work but there are still too many issues.

The 2 biggest issues are:

1. The control mapping reads the stick incorectly, like if I set the X axis for roll the map reads it as button 4 or something. This sounds OK but a button isn't a variable, it's on or off. So I can't contol the rate of roll, and as a button press it rolls to fast for subtle corections.

2. When I switch to cockpit view the controle scheme defaults to something else and doesn't follow the key mapping at all. All I can do is rudder turns, no rolls or pitch control.


I came back to see if anyone had found a solution that works well. Ubi's tech support solution (to what they labled as problem solved) was to install the patch, (I already told them I did) or come here to the forums for help. All I find are a ton of angry Flight sim fans.

It's a shame too, the game looked so promising and the graphics are nice.

Bad form Ubi, Bad form

[ni7irs]

It is clear to me that this game is a fraud. It says it is compatible with windows-compliant joysticks.

The proper course of action is to sue ubisoft in a class action. We need 25 people to start the action.

Please send interested inquiries to ron@stearneylaw.com

[Bufftech]

I really hesitated when I had the game in my hand because of my experience with Silent Hunter 2. I should have known better! My Top Gun Afterburner 2 is not recognized and the only things that works is a button on the throttle fires the gun and twisting the rudder left and right increases and decreases throttle. That was the LAST 60 bucks Canadian UBISOFT gets from me... ever. Unbelieveable. I hope I can return this game to Staples! I wish I had seen this forum before I got my wallet out.

[bealmci]

If you have a Thrustmaster Afterburner FF stick DO NOT PATCH THE GAME...WITH ANY PATCH!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif This stick works just fine with the original install. But if any patches are applied, the game will not map the stick motion at all. It also has the slider and rudder reversed. It will map the buttons but thats it.

If you have applied a patch you must do a complete uninstall...saved material, everything. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif


I was all the way through Midway when I saw that the second patch offered an internal cockpit view and thought it would be cool. I think differently now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

[benji1957]

Hello. I am Benji1957,from Holland. After waiting a few weeks I have bought the game,what a waste of money!!!!!!!!!.The game sucks!!!
Can't play it with Microsoft Force Feedback Sidewinder 2,what ever I am trying to change the buttons,nothing helps!!!Can I get my money back??? I have a lot of games from Ubi-soft ( Silent Hunter 1/2,Il-2,FB,AEP,Pacific Fighters)
they all work the way they should work,but this game?????????????

[sq40]

Originally posted by pink_is_blue:
Try this :

Download joystick2mouse
(http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Mouse_and_...ystick_2_Mouse.html) (http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Mouse_and_Keyboard_Utilities/Joystick_2_Mouse.html))
or some other utility that allows u to control the mouse with your joystick.

Then in the game settings activate the mouse controls (enable default 2). Set up the keys associations and play.
I?m using a Saitek ST90 and it works like a charm.

I can't seem to get it to work in the game. (Works great on the desktop) Is there anything special I need to do to get my Saitek ST290 Pro to work?

Thanks

[GS_Beastie]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Read These Links:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4281085773/m/2...881050844#3881050844 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4281085773/m/2551061644?r=3881050844#3881050844)

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4281085773/m/2551061644/p/2

http://members.aol.com/NormTrudeau/Saitek_Stick_Mod.JPG <div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://www.members.aol.com/normtrudeau/norm/me2.gif

[stroler1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by realityforgone:
You all have to be kidding me! This is an excellent game. After I installed both patches my joystick worked. All of these bad reviews based solely on a fricken joystick issue?! Why can't you guys figure this out? Here is a question how many of you in here know how to script? How many of your are game developers? How many of you are modelers and animators perhaps coders? to the point- if you think that a game is bug free your stoned. Suck it up and stop bashing a great game just because it didn't have an idiots guide to set your joystick up with. use your friggin b

Well my friend enough time has now passed for me to have learned how to code in the interim and to have re-written the game......oh get real.... where is the support 8 months down the line...I'm chucking this game as a bad joke, its still unplayable....bring on Battlegroup 2 mod for BF2. I guarantee thousands of happy customers there. God this is ridiculous

[Blud_E_Gutz]

Originally posted by realityforgone:
You all have to be kidding me! This is an excellent game. After I installed both patches my joystick worked. All of these bad reviews based solely on a fricken joystick issue?! Why can't you guys figure this out? Here is a question how many of you in here know how to script? How many of your are game developers? How many of you are modelers and animators perhaps coders? to the point- if you think that a game is bug free your stoned. Suck it up and stop bashing a great game just because it didn't have an idiots guide to set your joystick up with. use your friggin brain.

RF


The games sucks, the support sucks as does your comments. Nearly everone that comes here has the same problems. Personally I think you are full of excrement and are only here to cause problems---you are SOOOOOOO out of touch with this game. I bet you are enjoying the thousands of players online too.

[Rubas2011]

Oh my friends of Ubi

Can I help me? My Saitek ST200 don't works in v.1.0.0., v.1.0.1 or v.1.0.2.

Thanks

[sarge1940]

Thanks guys you saved me some money. I don't think new games should have ANY bugs in them at all. That's not what we pay good money for. What happened to the R&D on this game? According to some of the PC game dealers we'll be a thing of the past in the not too distant future. The big money is in the boxes. So I wouldn't be looking for any solutions to this problem for the PC. EAGames is the same way.

[UKDutyPa1d]

Originally posted by UKDutyPa1d:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by belfastkiller:
oxy the game is not a sim its arcade if you realy want to injoy it get a control pad there is no issues with the control pad as far as i know
check the for to all you new guys thread its realy for all

Get a control pad? Maybe I am simple for desiring to be able to play with a joystick, not the keyboard, not a gamepad?

My joystick works with every other game I have had, maybe UbiSoft should be thinking about sorting this out themselves rather than putting the emphasis on the people who have paid good money for a faulty game? Don't blame me for being a sucker and not checking these forums first lol - I am going to remember this lesson for a very long time. Don't purchase a game before you have checked the forums just because a company has made working games before.

That was my savings I used, have I no right to be disappointed? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Still no patch to rectify the joystick fiasco? Oh well, I did not really expect one, there is no reference toi the PC version on the site anymore (except here in the forums).

[RMcSlash]

Unfortunately UBI is still selling the PC version on their site, just go about three pages back in the listings of PC games.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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[jbarradale]

I used a Logitech Wingman Force Feedback 3D and got it to work.

I hope this helps with joystick problems, just review and redo ALL the assignments by pressing the joystick buttons or moving the stick. You have to select the command to assign, press the right hand joystick button on the screen (use selected joystick?)and then press the button on the joystick itself or move the stick. For the throttle slide, you MUST have it in the middle, or it will assign it to every one of the commands. To assign this button, move it forward or back only after you select the command and press the menu button on the screen. Put it back to the middle afterward or it will recognize that "button" every time you want to change an assignment.

It seems that it will work, but the game does not recognize the proper buttons.

[ayedeeman]

Originally posted by jbarradale:
I used a Logitech Wingman Force Feedback 3D and got it to work.

...

It seems that it will work, but the game does not recognize the proper buttons.

Don't know about you, but i have the same joystick, and i get no throttle in 1.1, or a huge deadzone in 1.2 which makes any sort of fine control impossible.

Maybe this is a new direction for PC games - Joystick and Mouse controls anyone?

[NeonRacer73]

Somebody please remind me never to buy a game again until it's been out a couple of weeks and the reviews are being posted

Couldn't agree more. I use bit torrent some of the time..but I with BA, I donated to the software giants...

I really should have looked on the trheads for the reviews. Bad me.

Until game makers produce a game that has been play tested over and over till the cows came home...I will go back to Bit torrent and not support game giants. Thsi game is a dsiappointment til they fix the issues!

Maybe they should read these posts. hmm pewrhaps Ill email them with the link to our boards....WAKE UP IBI!!!!

[NeonRacer73]

Originally posted by GS_Beastie:
I will be surprised if patching can fix this game...
This is the first and last game I will ever Pre-order...!!!
I guess WE should Wish ZIPPER that made CS was still Making GAMES...!!! Crimson Skies only got two small Patchs, and No Support after that... Amazing how good it turned out... Amazing how this many years later, Arcade Flight Sims are still being Measured against Crimson Skies...!!!

Go to GameSpy to play Crimson Skies On-Line...<:-))

I think Ubi would do well to go find them "ZIPPER CODER'S" and put them on the PayRoll...<:-))

CAT,... I would like you to do something for ME... Go home and get your favorite 'TOP Flight Stick" out play this game...<:-)) And then when you come back to work tomarrow... Go and "SPANK" them GUY'S in the "Beta Testing Dept" for ME...<:-))

Now, Where Is That Patch WE Been Hearing About...<:-))

Thought that Zipper was bought out by SONY???
Sony aquires Zipper (http://www.ntgame.com/2006/02/sony_acquires_zipper_interacti.html#more)

[NeonRacer73]

Originally posted by XVII-69:
My Cyrborg Evo works fine in the game, Bought it yesterday, but the Buttons are all messed up and the Settings can not be changed for which one i want as my FIRE button.. I am going back to play BF2 until this is Fixxed, 63$ Cdn and this is what i get.. UBI man what is up with That BAD BAD BAD!!

sorry to be answering everyon4e post tonight...

I bough tmine for xmas...$19.99 CDN at futureshop...

guess its b/c I waited!!! <LOL>

Im getting HOTP right now...on BT...hope its better comntrolling than this piece!

[NeonRacer73]

Let me adress any developer for thsi game...

It is not our job here to adress you with the the certian typoes of problems..well..if we have to to gget to the root of the problem, but my opinion here is this...

you guys made this game...you fix it.

Go get 20 of the best joysticks,gamepads, and joypads from the sotres..plug them in, and play test them. that way if we supply you with the names of the controllers...you guys beta test these problems and then get back to use with a 1.03 patch

That way we're all happy and problems solved.


TY

[Levandulak]

Please is there somebod, who can hlep me. I have bought joystick Logitech Freedom 2.4 Cordless Joystick.
But I can´t set primary functions as turning to left, rigt, up, down. In settings it always appears as one button and it does not work. Rest buttons normally works.
It is my first joysticj so I don´t know if I´m doing everything well. Can somebody help me with it.

[injestagain]

Problem:
No usable flight controls with Joystick(s) installed both patches 1.01 and 1.02, no help. (Note: all these sticks work on same computer with UBISOFT Heroes of the Pacific)
Joysticks:
Trusmaster Top Gun Pro USB
Saitek ST290 Pro
Logitec Freedom 2.4 ghz cordless
Checked your FAQs on this, all 10 pages of complaints about this problem and possible solutions and it is clear there is no solution and UBISOFT is not trying to fix this. In fact UBISOFT no longer list this game on its PC game list.

I will not buy a game pad controller for this game as research shows that will not work either. I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!!!

Amazing, I can log on and post here but UBISOFT support page keeps having an
?The site encountered an unexpected error. Please try again later or contact us if the problem persists?
problem. What are the odds ubi just doesn?t want you to ask questions??

[injestagain]

Just so you know the specks on my rig
? Complete product title (including version number).
Blazing Angels PC CD-ROM with patches 1.01 and 1.02 (Dose not work with any of the patches. With no patch no workie, with patch 1.01 no workie, with patch 1.01 and patch 1.02 no workie)

? Exact error message reported (if applicable) and a brief description of the problem you?re encountering.
None

? Processor speed and manufacturer.
Intel 2.8 ghz

? Amount of RAM.
1.5 GB
? Operating system.
XP Home
? Video card that you are using and amount of RAM it has.
Diamond X1300 APG 512 MB

? Maker and speed of your CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive.
DVD/CD Combo 52X16C

? Type of sound card you are using.
None, internal

[Levandulak]

I bought the game with both patches. But it is in my language. I want to try to install patches from net, but I don´t know how to uninstall these original. Can you help me, how to do it?

[sarge1940]

Ubisoft got your money that's all they care about. I for one don't buy anymore of their junk. Look where their located at.not like your going to call the BBB. Good luck to you all. Sarge

[ourdarkestdays0]

The people who made this game are ****ing ******ed. they did not tell you how to land on the freakin carrier in that sandstorm level. so if you could tell me that would be great!

-Joey

[Target56]

I'm very upset about this BS. I bought this game because I played the demo on my mouse and keyboard, and loved it. 4 days after it expired, I bought a joystick. Logitech Extreme 3D PRO, and i'm having the same problem, as everyone else. If anyone is going for a lawsuit, i'll be happy to sign up. One year and they haven't fixed this? THis will be my last Ubisoft game. They think they can take my money, I don't think so. I think I will go bittorrent . How stupid can you be to make it work with only gamepads? I bet 99 percent of the users who bought the game use a joystick, and that should have been common sense. It's plain, and total stupidity that it won't work with joysticks. I'm sick of big companies stealing.

[realityforgone]

I'm very upset about this BS. I bought this game because I played the demo on my mouse and keyboard, and loved it. 4 days after it expired, I bought a joystick. Logitech Extreme 3D PRO, and i'm having the same problem, as everyone else. If anyone is going for a lawsuit, i'll be happy to sign up. One year and they haven't fixed this? THis will be my last Ubisoft game. They think they can take my money, I don't think so. I think I will go bittorrent . How stupid can you be to make it work with only gamepads? I bet 99 percent of the users who bought the game use a joystick, and that should have been common sense. It's plain, and total stupidity that it won't work with joysticks. I'm sick of big companies stealing.

I must say that you are an official idiot! Go ahead and self admit to piracy. Now for the Joystick issue...

I have the logitech Extreme 3D Pro and it works fine...Sure I had to remap a few things but it works good, the only complaint I have is due to sensitivety issues concerning aiming and movement. Hardly worth threatening a lawsuit.
THe price of this gameis hardly enough to break the bank. Also you should have visited the forums to read the issues about it. Most of us didn't and that's egg on our face, but I bet you read the product infomration for the next game you purchase. I have been away from these forums for quite some time, and feel the need to come back and help some of you fix your joysticks.

Regards,
Dave

[realityforgone]

? Complete product title (including version number).
Blazing Angels PC CD-ROM with patches 1.01 and 1.02 (Dose not work with any of the patches. With no patch no workie, with patch 1.01 no workie, with patch 1.01 and patch 1.02 no workie)

? Exact error message reported (if applicable) and a brief description of the problem you?re encountering.
None

? Processor speed and manufacturer.
Intel 2.8 ghz

? Amount of RAM.
1.5 GB
? Operating system.
XP Home
? Video card that you are using and amount of RAM it has.
Diamond X1300 APG 512 MB

? Maker and speed of your CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive.
DVD/CD Combo 52X16C

? Type of sound card you are using.
None, internal

Ok this is when I call you a moron, RAM only works in the power of two 'er twins you can not have a one gig chip with a 512 chip installed on the same board, it will not read one of the sticks, unless you are using 3 512 in wich case your a moron.. Your hurting your specs more than helping them.


Let me adress any developer for thsi game...

It is not our job here to adress you with the the certian typoes of problems..well..if we have to to gget to the root of the problem, but my opinion here is this...

you guys made this game...you fix it.

Go get 20 of the best joysticks,gamepads, and joypads from the sotres..plug them in, and play test them. that way if we supply you with the names of the controllers...you guys beta test these problems and then get back to use with a 1.03 patch

That way we're all happy and problems solved.
TY

UHM, remapping an entire control function is not as easy as that. Adding support for 20 top joysticks may take some time...however I do not feel it should have taken this much time. I will try to get some contact details and post them here.





Posted Tue December 26 2006 17:14 Hide Post

quote:
Somebody please remind me never to buy a game again until it's been out a couple of weeks and the reviews are being posted



Couldn't agree more. I use bit torrent some of the time..but I with BA, I donated to the software giants...

Do your parents drop you alot? or is it the strawberry flavored windex your drinking? Just wondering....... re-read your post and think about it...No one like RedBeard, to include law enforcement and large corps.


Regards,
Dave

[sambuik]

the entire time iv been playing blazing angles (with the crummy mouse, but i luv WWII games so i couldnt resist the game) i was thinking, man whatever happned 2 my crimson skies. now that was a good game.

[Target56]

Originally posted by realityforgone:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I'm very upset about this BS. I bought this game because I played the demo on my mouse and keyboard, and loved it. 4 days after it expired, I bought a joystick. Logitech Extreme 3D PRO, and i'm having the same problem, as everyone else. If anyone is going for a lawsuit, i'll be happy to sign up. One year and they haven't fixed this? THis will be my last Ubisoft game. They think they can take my money, I don't think so. I think I will go bittorrent . How stupid can you be to make it work with only gamepads? I bet 99 percent of the users who bought the game use a joystick, and that should have been common sense. It's plain, and total stupidity that it won't work with joysticks. I'm sick of big companies stealing.

I must say that you are an official idiot! Go ahead and self admit to piracy. Now for the Joystick issue...

I have the logitech Extreme 3D Pro and it works fine...Sure I had to remap a few things but it works good, the only complaint I have is due to sensitivety issues concerning aiming and movement. Hardly worth threatening a lawsuit.
THe price of this gameis hardly enough to break the bank. Also you should have visited the forums to read the issues about it. Most of us didn't and that's egg on our face, but I bet you read the product infomration for the next game you purchase. I have been away from these forums for quite some time, and feel the need to come back and help some of you fix your joysticks.

Regards,
Dave </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

1, I have NEVER pirated a game in my life. I mostly play Half-Life 2, and STEAM based games, and I have the boxes to prove it. Infact, I have a whole shelf covered with games, it was mostly a threat, and was stupid, but moving on-

2, I have tried everything with my joystick, and it does not work. I have the latest patch, but it binds everything to the 'Z Axis Left' no matter what I try. It is not my joystick, because everything works fine in Lock On and Battle of Britian 2.

3, The box clearly states, "Joystick" and yet, joysticks don't fully work, wich makes it false advertising.

4, 29.99 at Frys is enough to piss me off. I could have, and should have bought Pacific Storm.

5, I thought because it said "Joystick" and I liked the demo so much, it was enough, and it would be fun.
The lack of help is also annoying.

[Levandulak]

So please tell me how it is possible, that when I remap some buttons that everytime when I want to move with joystick to any diraction, there usually appears as button 18 on every direction. I have Logitech Freedom 2.4 Cordless Joystick and on this it does not work good. The other buttons are OK. The main problem is that I can´t change dirction. Help me please if you can.

[GS_Beastie]

The lack of help is also annoying

We have put all the info you need for that stick to set it up... (it will never work right) but it will almost work good enough to play this game... ~ J U S T ~ R E A D ~ P R I O R ~ P O S T S ~ I N ~ T H I S ~ W E B S I T E ~ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Yes, you should have bought "Pacific Fighters" I wish I would have...!!!

[jtharp2654]

UBI put out "heroes of the Pacific" flight sim in '05 and flight controls work fine. what the h#11?

what's so hard about doing it again?

[gungho_uk]

Originally posted by GS_Beastie:
(it will never work right)

..but it DID work correctly before applying patches. There are 2 obvious scenarios here -
1) they have no idea how to fix it, despite the fact it did work and a patch broke it.
2) they do know how to fix it, but can't be bothered to release a patch.

Either way, UBI suxs.

[jtharp2654]

It has been a multitude of probs for me.
even during the initial install when I go to register the game it detects it as King Kong and I'm not allowed to change it. (warning sign)

still can't get a stick to work. (tried 3)

when I'm flying in first mission (with gamepad)
it locks up!

patches applied and more than sufficient machine. NEVER have had so many issues with one game - ever - not even close.

Friend of mine from EA can't understant UBIs inadility to get a good multi controller interface:
and I quote "that's game design 101"

[sq40]

Originally posted by ayedeeman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jbarradale:
I used a Logitech Wingman Force Feedback 3D and got it to work.

...

It seems that it will work, but the game does not recognize the proper buttons.

Don't know about you, but i have the same joystick, and i get no throttle in 1.1, or a huge deadzone in 1.2 which makes any sort of fine control impossible.

Maybe this is a new direction for PC games - Joystick and Mouse controls anyone? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am going to bet its not so much a "dead zone" as you have no control over the degree's of axis, only ON / OFF for that direction. That seems to be what the majority of us have run in to with the supposed "patch" that fixes this. It simply does not.

[mehoron]

I work in QA for a game company specifically. Our QA is all in house so we have direct say to development on what the hell is wrong with the game, and NO controller we support goes untested with ANY patch, period.

With that being said, something as simple as this problem could have been avoided if whatever QA (probably outsourced) wasn't using one type of 21 Button controller. The issue is the game is going through functions one by one and assigning them based on what button it THINKS it should be. So on an ST290 the buttons 1-6 work great and can be mapped fine. But the axis are seen as buttons as well. So instead the slider is being seen as button 15, the twist or X Axis being button 16 ect. The game isn't calling the functions or mapping of the actual joystick (this would requier the game to actually look up the control device name and button scheme ((this must be programmed seperately for each controller)), then assign default fuctions to it, unlike with consoles where all that doesn't really matter and you can assign whatever you feel like since the actual console only supports so many buttons ((this makes it to where you don't need to call up the specific mappings of different controllers, which is what the PC game is doing now. It's just assigning the max number of joystick functions it can handle without actually looking up the mapping or grabbing the functions of the controller))).

Now I'm sure the top end Saitek controller with 21 buttons works fine and all (since that appears to be the only thing that was tested) but that isn't what most people have. If I was Ubi I would invest a little money into an actual QA Dept and not some outsourced taiwaneese company you can't even communicate well with.


Edit: Forgot, you can also use Direct Input (from DirectX) to find all the controller information, mapping, and setup information. You can then import this information into the game settings program and use Direct Input to assign game functions to the specific joystick.

[stroler1]

Well boys its finally happened...I did what I gate doing...chasing good money after bad...to make Blazing Angles work I followed some threads here and bought a new stick... not a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro but a Logitech Force 3D Pro...about 85$. Well the X axis didn't pick up as expected but reads as buttons and functions about the same as a button switch...but with a terrible dead zone that one cannot set...and of course without any sensitivity settings one is fairly lost. But everyone by now kind of knows from these threads that this game does not support joysticks properly...that is everyone except Ubisoft who's support are still referring new comers to this forum for solutions to joystick issues...as if that is going help.
Well now that I have a Perfectly New Joystick and I have no game to support it. Oh yes, I also bought a Genius gamepad for BA ...needless to say the game doesn't even detect this. Luckily (or unluckily I got BA as a gift) and now have spent 25$ on a gamepad, 85$ on a new stick...and to support my hate of chasing good money after bad...I have now spent another 42$ on a game that will support my new glorious joystick. And this game is "Heroes of the Pacific"�. I have only completed 2 campaigns now and already my soul is content... Heroes of the Pacific rocks!!! It works and feels good and plays awesome!! Flying is fluid on the stick and one can actually hit a target...unlike BA where you have a greater chance of hitting a boomerang in flight with a thrown sledge hammer!! Oh yes and should you staff or torpedo a ship or boat...it actually sinks...unlike in BA where is just goes & sits dead in the water like a dumb duck!!!
I have uninstalled BA and wish to burn it on my street corner...but out of courtesy to my buddy who bought it I will keep it in case he asks about it.
"Heroes of the Pacific"� is published here by Codemasters...which reminds me of a recent highly publicized new release from Ubisoft called "Faces of War"� which is a WW2 strategy game with fully destructible environment...whooopy...the game is virtually a straight copy of the Codemaster's classic "Soldiers: Heroes of WW2"� only diffs is that FoW you can orbit the cam view to horizon level...much good this is when your artillery can only make a ranged attack over equivalent of 300 yards!!!
Needless to say I will never buy another Ubisoft game again!!!! Sorry Oleg as I am really looking forward to your new Battle of Britain. Long live Codemasters and EA Games!!!
See all ya fly boys online at Heroes of the Pacific

[oO_Cthulhu_Oo]

My Joystick works!
I have just reinstalled the game with my joystick and gamepad both plugged in. I have set my joystick to prefered device in the control panel, run the config of the game and it's there- my joystick as controller 2. I have the Polish version of the game so it has included patch 1.02. Hope this works for you! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[FooMan2000]

hey there first of all where do I find the control panel to be able to get the joystick to work? I installed the game with my wingman extreme plugged in and it rolls so hard to the right that I can hardly fly it unless I pin the opposite button down just to keep it level! second does the fact that a newer game having two patches in less than a year totaling almost 120 megs, strike anyone as odd? I have a screaming 46k connection (living put here in the toolies in Idaho) and it will take me something like a three days to download these.

[kirdro]

Now I'm sure the top end Saitek controller with 21 buttons works fine and all (since that appears to be the only thing that was tested) but that isn't what most people have. If I was Ubi I would invest a little money into an actual QA Dept and not some outsourced taiwaneese company you can't even communicate well with.



...I have the current top end saitek, the X52, and it sure doesn't map correctly. Too bad Ubi doesn't really care for their customers, all that they are interested in is the $$$.

[maltitan]

I have came to this site to see if anyone else was having joystick problem's and was totally blown away with the amount of issues that 99% of the Blazing Angels owners are having, I am also having problems with my Thrust master Afterburner stick along with another stick I own (Saitek X54), The DEPARTMENT that was responsible for the decision to release this game should be FIRED, then they could go work for Bill Gates to create more nonworking programs. What is up with the developers these days, it would seem that they are hell bent on spending enormous amounts of money to keep someone from making a backup of their disc then making sure that the program works (Again, just like Gates) I will also be taking this game back for my money back. You need to come out with something that will make this game work...unlike your third patch which is worthless... FIRE that person too. Doesn't anyone there test this fix before it is released? This screams incompetence. All you have done here is make a very large group of people think twice about ever buying another Ubsoft Product again, for such a damaging blow to your repetition all it cost was to thieve us of some money, shame, shame, shame. Here is some advise, quit putting all your effort into copy protection and put it back into making a great product.

[SuperSlayer1]

Wow. Lol. Good to know I'm not the only one who has put themselves through the wringer trying to get this awesome appearing yet poorly coded game to work with their damn flight stick. I read all the posts. The most ingenious came from assigning the stick as the primary Windows input device. That guy should be given an award, if it works that is. I find it funny too how people responded to that idiot realityforgone when clearly he is a corporate knuckle dragger who only made appearances here on this forum to shift blame from UBI onto us, as if contradicting our capability to assign a flightstick would actually carry any weight. Shame on UBI for ****ing us like this, shame on that ******* for poorly representing UBI. What they should say is, look we outsourced this game to India to save money but dropped the ball because of it. Then possibly continued with, I feel your frustration but the truth is, we can't get the game to work properly on more than a couple of controllers. Please forgive us, you can have our first born, yada yada yada. Oh and buy UBI in the future because we care. Perhaps that would have made us feel better. lol and perhaps not.

[lanc_125]

i cant do nuthin. i got a thrustmaster usb joystick and it allways makes the planes roll. ubi needs to pull itself together and think of how many joysticks there are http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

[akostali]

Guys I can't use my joystick(I use Saitek ST90)... Do u can use your joysticks???

[CorbMtl]

Wow, very disapointing. Both my MS Sidewinder pro stick and game pad are not recongized by this game!! This may be the first game I will try to return...(dispite the stores no return policy)

[sn1p3rjack]

this game is dead. just return it. its very sad because if everythign works ok its a great game. my 3dpro works fine so im cool w/ it.. but no one plays..

[Cybopache]

well I have the LOGITECH Freedom wireless 2,4.
Had some problems but have worked it out.Yes it says buttons instead of slider ,button 31 and on and on but I have MY SLIDER in NATURAL POSITION (IN THE MIDDLE )´when signing the buttons. Tell me strange numbers but does work in game tho.

cybohawk

[Codger1949]

I'm glad I didn't buy this pos. I wondered why it was going so cheap on Amazon. I know longer wonder why.

[lanc_125]

just use the keys, no joysticks work and the patches arent any good, my spitfire rolls like mad all the time unless i disable the stick. iv got a pos stick, i think its called a thrustmaster usb stickhttp://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5x5aQSBGvtoAKnGjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBsMW5yM3V oBHNlYwNwcm9mBHZ0aWQDSTA2Nl84OA--/SIG=122vs4gqc/EXP=1176605402/**http%3A//ftp.unina.it/pub/aminet/pix/vehic%3FD=D

[Codger1949]

Originally posted by lanc_125:
just use the keys, no joysticks work and the patches arent any good, my spitfire rolls like mad all the time unless i disable the stick. iv got a pos stick, i think its called a thrustmaster usb stickhttp://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0Je5x5aQSBGvtoAKnGjzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBsMW5yM3V oBHNlYwNwcm9mBHZ0aWQDSTA2Nl84OA--/SIG=122vs4gqc/EXP=1176605402/**http%3A//ftp.unina.it/pub/aminet/pix/vehic%3FD=D Yeah, I get the rolling action as well. I wonder if a Saitek gamepad would work?

[lanc_125]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif ubi really hav 2 wake up. look at the button settings and u will notice that the slider is the throtle but the roll is noted as the z axis http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif the z axis is the slider. i tried centering the slider but there was no effect on the rolling and the joystick even cuts into the film clips, WTF IS UP WITH THAT http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

[NC37]

Shame they couldn't have just copied Freelancer controls like everyone else does now. Heck if your programmers are too lazy to get proper joystick support then at least copy someone else.

Thrustmaster Fox 2 Pro here and all I got is working buttons and throttle in the worst place to be bound to. I otherwise got no control over the plane. lol, Starlancer works wonderful with this joystick (which is still in production) and Ubisoft makes this blunder.

sigh, i've been getting very dissatisfied with Ubisoft products for awhile now. First they ruined Ghost Recon with #2 and Warfighter...yes I don't like Warfighter. I don't think its true to the original gameplay. Plus I can't stand the actors. And now Ubisoft is starting to ruin flight sims.

[mlg5454]

Originally posted by qba767:
My Joystick works!
I have just reinstalled the game with my joystick and gamepad both plugged in. I have set my joystick to prefered device in the control panel, run the config of the game and it's there- my joystick as controller 2. I have the Polish version of the game so it has included patch 1.02. Hope this works for you! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Hey guys, me again. Max. I work for Ubi. I'm trying to help you guys.

I see that this person says they got their joystick to work by these means - could you guys try what he or she has done to see if it works? The severity of these joystick problems make it seem like this simple of a solution won't work but I'd like to make sure you guys have given it a shot...

Lemme know if it works, and probably more importantly if it doesn't.

-Max

[lanc_125]

ok man look if u can see how to fix these things ill be happy ive only got a joystick and it dont make my birds go 2 nice

[stroler1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mlg5454:
Hey guys, me again. Max. I work for Ubi. I'm trying to help you guys.

Hi there Max. Well finally Ubi are giving these problems some attention. (A year down the line?!?) I hope you're in time though as this game is dead. Don't take it from me though just see how many people are playing online world-wide: none! Its a pity, this could otherwise be an awesome game but for the controller issues.
Okay to the point: The game control interface does not pick up the controller as suggested in the patches. I have a Logitech Force 3D Pro. And nonsense if they say it does work!!
Firstly it does not pick up the Y-axis: it reads it as buttons....and controls them as such....so there is no sensitivity...its full up or full down...u try to hone onto your target with that...u can't. Okay so the y-axis is a button up and button down...no matter what joystick u have ...no matter what the others say. Further to this button stuff there is a huge dead zone too....in a nutshell this makes a plane un-flyable. I have many flight Sims and arcade fly games...none have this problem...just compare this with Battlestations Midway and Heroes of the Pacific.

Fix your controller interface and joystick problems and you may be able to save this game...don't and u may as well shelve your upcoming sequel...because no-one will buy it as you have already disappointed your target market...its as simple as that.
U must be able to configure your controller assignments properly through the correct axis and sliders and buttons. Axis sensitivities may be a good idea but not essential: if done properly sensitivities may be governed by your joystick software...at the moment it can't because they are buttons and not axis.

Good Luck

[JCDoum]

Hey there,

I have a "Logitec Extreme 3D pro" and i can manage to fly the airplane now with the 1.02 version install. But it react the same as Stroler 1. The joystick seem to react like a button instead of a gradual increase or decrease like it should do. But the game is now playable. I find it hard to understand how a joystick can be hard to install on any game now. By the way, Thank you Max for being here. I hope that they (Ubisoft) will give you enough power to do something about all this.

[lanc_125]

what sequel. unless Australia aint getin no attention all ubi has done is given BA to PS3 and wii http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

[stroler1]

Originally posted by lanc_125:
what sequel. unless Australia aint getin no attention all ubi has done is given BA to PS3 and wii http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

"Ubisoft today announced that Blazing Angels Secret Missions will launch on the Xbox 360 and PC this spring. Blazing Angels Secret Missions is the sequel to Blazing Angels Squadrons of WWII.

Secret Missions will show World War II from the perspective of an elite pilot who is part of a secret team. The game is built on all-new visual technology. Battles will take place throughout various conditions, including darkness, rain, snow and air turbulence. Locales vary from Paris, Rome and Moscow to exotic locations like Rangoon and Cairo and the highest mountain ranges of the Himalayas. Players will have access to some of the most advanced and unusual aircraft and weapons of WWII, as well as access to a huge assortment of weapons, including high-velocity cannons and early guided missiles.

Multiplayer additions include new capture the flag and epic battle modes."

Morning...next time read some news before you arrive with an attituce comment.

[stroler1]

Originally posted by lanc_125:
what sequel. unless Australia aint getin no attention all ubi has done is given BA to PS3 and wii http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Maybe this would put you in the picture:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/blazingangels2/news.html...&tag=updates;title;2 (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/blazingangels2/news.html?sid=6164979&om_act=convert&om_clk=gsupdates&tag=updates;title;2)

SAN FRANCISCO "” January 30, 2007 "” Today Ubisoft, one of the world's largest video game publishers, announced that Blazing Angels Secret Missions will launch on the Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system from Microsoft and Games 4 Windows. Scheduled for a spring 2007 release, Blazing Angels Secret Missions is the follow-up to the squadron-based flight combat game Blazing Angels Squadrons of WWII.

Blazing Angels Secret Missions shows World War II from a different perspective – that of an elite pilot who is part of a secret team. In the game, the player will undertake some of the most dangerous missions in exotic locations all over the globe. As an elite pilot, the player goes from one great adventure to another, while battling the most lethal experimental weapons of the Third Reich. The squad's mission is to prevent the ultimate weapon from being built. To help players in this quest, they have at their disposal an assortment of highly experimental aircraft and weaponry. Blazing Angels Secret Missions comes straight out of the history books of World War II's most top secret projects....

Hopefully the box statement of "Windows compatible Mouse, keyboard, headsets, joysticks, gamepad" would stand true. Maybe the fix for the new release would give rise to a propper patch for the old game.

Wishfull thinking? I wonder

[lanc_125]

oh so ubi dont care for the aussies eh. or do they. no1 here has even heard that name perhaps that bloke from ubi can explain http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

[mlg5454]

Bloke from Ubi can explain what? I'm unclear on what you're asking about. If anyone cares about Australian people?

Cut down on the flamewars guys. I'd rather read meaningful content to include in my reports rather than omg11roflzzz, eh?

-Max

[belfastkiller]

the game is dead wont be fixed this game done and dusted
mlg not flameing you but do you not think its a bit late to make any reports this game has been out a long time.
sad to see more people buying this half finnished game and comeing here looking for help.

theres no proper support for this game online is dead full of bugs.
and i wouldint wait on ubi makeing another patch

[mlg5454]

You may be right, belfast, but it's not up to me on whether or not I report on these problems. The job has been assigned to me. And I think that means that somebody other than myself, probably some more important Ubisoft employees, still have their eyes on this game.

Like I've said before, I'll do what I can.

If I find out that there's absolutely no hope for this game, I'll let you know. In the mean time I think there is hope.

-Max

[belfastkiller]

this game has lost a lot of good players i dont think they will be back.
ubi gave us two patches that didint work no one came back to answer questions
ubi support is bad
even with a working patch it might be to late.
this game has been out for a long time now
there should have been patches to fix bugs as there is plenty.
could have gave us newer maps to fight on.
or some kind of editor and mod support .
kind of late for ubi to show support for this game.
makes me think they gonna try and sell us another blazing angels product.
after this one i think alot of people who were burnned are not gonna be interested.
but sure i am gonna keep checking here to see if ubi do throw us another patch.
if this game was going well online again i would reinstall.
but people have tryed to liven it up online with out much success.
such a shame as this game could have been a very good game
main problems joysticks didicated servers and to beable to join a game while its already started
just to bad people have moved on

[basolisk]

Hay I just baught this game 2 days ago. Seen it on a whim and looked good from grafix stand point, so i picked it up. But man my Saitek ST90 JS dont want to work on it. Even after the patches. Every time i try to fix it in the setings a message box appers with "This button is allready assighned Continue? Yes No". But god man after reading all these postes (ok not every one but enough), let me tell you im glad I only paid $10 for it. It is playabul with the key board (Forget the mouse) and ill play through the campain but it is no fun like it should be. UBI unless you figure out the Joy Stick problem do your selfs a favor and dont release the expansion, save your money cuz I will not buy it. And by the sounds of it nither will a lot of other people.
Sighned: a verry dissapointed customer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

[Codger1949]

Do yourselves a favor and don't buy the expansion until they fix this mess. If you do, you'll fall into the category once described by Joseph ("Paper Collar" Joe) Bessimer but attributed to P.T. Barnum

[lanc_125]

let em go i rekon ubi deserve a second chance. if they blow that then stuff all theve got in flight sims for P.C s http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

[Blud_E_Gutz]

I can't believe this!!!!
This game us actually on the shelves and UBI is still ripping people off.

The Game is a straight port and it will never work right on the PC. The devs don't have a clue how to fix it and it will never be fixed. I got ripped off for this game as well as VEGAS, another port that screwed over PC players.(don't believe me-go over to the Vegas PC forums) NO, they do not derserve a second chance. It's simple, don't buy UBI's PC games. They are nothing more than POOR ports and the support they offer is virtually non existant. As for UBI community managers, in all my experience on many UBI forums they really can't offer you anything except ' I am looking into it, Something is in the works but I can't tell you, I let you know when I am allowed to say something, etc' They are only here to attempt to pacify the masses (or lack of here) and do what the suits above them say. It must be one of the most frustrating jobs on the planet.

[lanc_125]

hey hey hey hey calm the heck down mate. i bought the game because im the rare breed who are actually interested in ww2 aircraft. i dont buy things cause theyre good or not. i wanted to fly the b17 but im stuck on rabaul which related to the forum i could probably finish if the dam joystick worked. i mean is there really any other type of game controler program other than direct x

[stroler1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by lanc_125:
hey hey hey hey calm the heck down mate. i bought the game because im the rare breed who are actually interested in ww2 aircraft.

Hey there lanc...not such a rare breed. WWII is a genre on its own. Whether a strategy, shooter, or simulator it has a large following...and with the more mature (older) gamers...and the numbers are growing...purists if u wanna call us that. And ideas that WWII is played out is an opinion...more and more are produced and they sell still well...makes u think. Some of us revel in the real titanic struggle that our grandfathers had to deal with ...bla bla bla...heritage thing ...fight for liberty ...opposition against oppression...bla bla bla...it was real and furthermore it makes great computer gaming...huge variety of battle equipment...massive operational arenas...hell u can hardly dream up anything better. And as the technology improves it makes the experience even better. I mean check the atmospherics out in this game. I'm with you here lanc...I'll wait for the fix to this game's joystick issues any day...and I really hope it does come. Long live WWII. Just a pity the focus is moving from PC to consoles...note Call of Duty 3. �

[mlg5454]

The view that our jobs are to "pacify the masses" is understandable, obviously, since you guys are having such a ****ty time, but I see my position as an opportunity to subvert the wrongdoing Ubi has done. Yes, I'll admit it. I'm not a ***** to the company. They've done some wrong. And yes, it's a frustrating job, but in the meantime, there's a lot more communication going on because of this restructuring of the forum management... I've had some minor improvements made for this game for the Wii, and over some minor stuff for Rayman. Directly.

So while we're here "pacifying" you all, we -might- actually be making some difference as well.

I figure that if I can really point how angry you guys are to some of my bosses, some things may change.

Or maybe I'm just lying to you all. Believe what you want.

(love,)
Max

[Blud_E_Gutz]

Originally posted by mlg5454:
The view that our jobs are to "pacify the masses" is understandable, obviously, since you guys are having such a ****ty time, but I see my position as an opportunity to subvert the wrongdoing Ubi has done. Yes, I'll admit it. I'm not a ***** to the company. They've done some wrong. And yes, it's a frustrating job, but in the meantime, there's a lot more communication going on because of this restructuring of the forum management... I've had some minor improvements made for this game for the Wii, and over some minor stuff for Rayman. Directly.

So while we're here "pacifying" you all, we -might- actually be making some difference as well.

I figure that if I can really point how angry you guys are to some of my bosses, some things may change.

Or maybe I'm just lying to you all. Believe what you want.

(love,)
Max

I know that you are doing what you can. I am not targeting you or what you hope to accomplish. I just need you to understand that Ubi really doesn't get it or really care(imho). I have been there through Rainbow Six, Lockdown, BLazing Angels, Graw, and Rainbow Vegas (thank god I clued in and stayed away from Silent Hunter IV after reading many reviews and forums).
The bottom line--UBI has done a very poor job of communicating with the PC community, they continue to release console ports that don't work properly on the PC, then they either ignore the problem as well as ban users and close negative threads and in the end don't fix a darn thing.
The devs of this game admitted not testing joysticks!! Funny, every other game in the world that I have played recognises sticks, easy and flawlessy. They just did a port. Is that the devs mistake or UBI's? A proper PC port was way beyond the devs abiltity and UBI doesn't care.

When you get a training mission that says push button A on your game pad when you aren't using one, you can see just how poor a job they did on the port.

Thanks for you help, but I have been there, time after time and absolutely nothing is resovled.

The only answer--quit buying UBI games. Simple.

[Codger1949]

I'm amazed that this thread is still open. If you were to post the slightest dis in the Il-2 forums (a lot of folks are having problems with their drm **** in the 1946 addon.) some mod character named Steve_V would make some snarky remark in response to your post and then close the thread down before you could give a little love back to him. Jagoff.

[mlg5454]

Fair enough, Blud E Gutz.

And Codger1949, I guess I'm the new mod around here, and I won't close topics unless they seem pointless. I've closed..... mmm 2 or 3 since I've come here because people are degrading their ability to communicate and even argue to calling each other gayboy and things of that nature. That's just useless. I probably won't close this thread.

Max

[Daroth_343]

Originally posted by Blud_E_Gutz:
The devs of this game admitted not testing joysticks!! Funny, every other game in the world that I have played recognises sticks, easy and flawlessy. They just did a port. Is that the devs mistake or UBI's? A proper PC port was way beyond the devs abiltity and UBI doesn't care.
The truth is that the developers simply didn't have time to test the joysticks. Judging from recent Ubisoft PC games it has become apparent that Ubisoft is spending less and less time on PC conversions. Also, most likely again due to time restrictions, they do a poor job implementing the copy protections, leading to further incompatibility problems and complaints to tech support. More and more people get annoyed by this and simply don't buy Ubisoft games anymore leading to poor sales, which Ubisoft then blames on piracy and prompts them to reduce the budget for PC conversions even further, leading to even worse games and so the cycle repeats itself...

[belfastkiller]

i am back to playing bf2 and having fun.
to bad as blazing angels could have been a real blast.
im keeping an eye out for a new arcade game attack on pearl harbor looks to be a fun game lets hope joy sticks work for it and has good support.

no more ubi for me

[Blud_E_Gutz]

Originally posted by belfastkiller:

im keeping an eye out for a new arcade game attack on pearl harbor looks to be a fun game lets hope joy sticks work for it and has good support.

no more ubi for me

And please let there be rudder control.

[mlg5454]

If I had given up on a company I'd probably stop posting on their internal message boards, since, you know, I wouldn't want anything to do with them. But maybe that's just me.

[lanc_125]

we shouldnt give up on them i mean even though we all feel like doing this http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif, we should start working out how to fix this issue as such i would like to appiont the factor that when i try to change an axis or buton in the BA settings panel it complains and doesnt let me choose.