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jourdy080
10-30-2006, 09:21 PM
Now I obviously believe after beating the game once for the NSA and reading threads or I assume that it is impossible to kill a splinter cell... I want complete confirmation that that is the case and there is no way on the 360 to kill a splinter cell not even if I play the game differently or on hard... So can someone answer me if it is at all POSSIBLE to kill a splinter cell on the 360 or go to LA for a mission?? Are maybe we all missing something or did <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] actually false advertise honestly??

jourdy080
10-30-2006, 09:21 PM
Now I obviously believe after beating the game once for the NSA and reading threads or I assume that it is impossible to kill a splinter cell... I want complete confirmation that that is the case and there is no way on the 360 to kill a splinter cell not even if I play the game differently or on hard... So can someone answer me if it is at all POSSIBLE to kill a splinter cell on the 360 or go to LA for a mission?? Are maybe we all missing something or did <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] actually false advertise honestly??

ras29
10-30-2006, 09:22 PM
Why does everyone want to kill a Splinter Cell?

Anyway, yes, it is sorta possible to kill a Splinter Cell on the 360, but you fail your mission. Simply chuck a grenade at your assistant, John (in the first mission) and let the grenade do you rest.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Buck_Rogers007
10-31-2006, 02:44 AM
I too am really confused on this. Not just killing the other splintercell which i thought you would also be able to play as, but also where the heck Sam's daughter is supposed to get killed in a car accident? And doing bank heists? I beat the game twice now trying to find these,

ras29
10-31-2006, 03:13 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif Okay, firstly, did you actually watch the first cutscene? It explains all about Sam's daughter dying. What, you think Sam became depressed because he prevented a nuclear missile launch?
Secondly, Ubisoft never said we'd play as a different Splinter cell during the game. They said we'd play WITH a different Splinter Cell, a single player co-op, but that's in the last-gen Xbox version.
Thirdly, the bank heists? Ubisoft NEVER said we'd do those. If you read the manual, you'd realise that Lambert FAKED the bank heists to put Sam in jail.
And lastly, yes. This is a 'Halo 2' ending, per se. It's an ingenious scheme to make us buy the next game. But 'no ending whatsoever' doesn't make sense. Every game/movie/thing has an ending. Even if the game just faded out while Sam's walking down a corridor, that's the ending. It may be an imcomplete one, but it is nevertheless an ending.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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jourdy080
10-31-2006, 12:23 PM
The sarcastic comment at the top is funny responding to my thread I find cute... However, Ras29 dont come and respond if you dont know what your talking about...Buck has a very good point and what hes trying to say is it wasnt explained which it wasnt... You just see a car hit her adn thats not enough to explain what happend same with the bank heist. Ras29 what made you sound even dumber then that was when you said that Buck was claiming and I also was claiming we want to play as different splinter cells like metal gear solid sons of liberty!?!?! NO I actually enjoy playing as Sam Fisher very much and what me and Buck were trying to say if you actually read our comments and not skim them or be dumb and misinterrpret them is that we CANT KILL A SPY OR ANOTHER SPLINTER CELL like in the trailer or like in bte xbox version and we are complaining over the fact that you cant on the 360 and that <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] regardless of how you feel about it or how I feel about it falsy advertised the whole game for the 360 and it doesnt have half of what it should have had...

SpecOps527
10-31-2006, 12:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jourdy080:
The sarcastic comment at the top is funny responding to my thread I find cute... However, Ras29 dont come and respond if you dont know what your talking about...Buck has a very good point and what hes trying to say is it wasnt explained which it wasnt... You just see a car hit her adn thats not enough to explain what happend same with the bank heist. Ras29 what made you sound even dumber then that was when you said that Buck was claiming and I also was claiming we want to play as different splinter cells like metal gear solid sons of liberty!?!?! NO I actually enjoy playing as Sam Fisher very much and what me and Buck were trying to say if you actually read our comments and not skim them or be dumb and misinterrpret them is that we CANT KILL A SPY OR ANOTHER SPLINTER CELL like in the trailer or like in bte xbox version and we are complaining over the fact that you cant on the 360 and that <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] regardless of how you feel about it or how I feel about it falsy advertised the whole game for the 360 and it doesnt have half of what it should have had... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
actually your stupid...
ras was right about what Buck said, maybe YOU should read it instead of skimming it...he said "Not just killing the other splintercell which i thought you would also be able to play as, but also where the heck Sam's daughter is supposed to get killed in a car accident? And doing bank heists?" Now this DEFINITELY means he thought you ge tto play as the other splinter cell. And I'm not sure, but the context and the way he words it also makes it sound like he never saw the part where Sarah died and he thought that you get to "DO" bank heists, which isn't the same as WATCH...learn how to read. And BUCK, just pay attention more when you play the game and read news articles about the game. Ras, you were right, don't sweat it.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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10-31-2006, 06:35 PM
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ras29
11-01-2006, 12:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SpecOps527:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jourdy080:
The sarcastic comment at the top is funny responding to my thread I find cute... However, Ras29 dont come and respond if you dont know what your talking about...Buck has a very good point and what hes trying to say is it wasnt explained which it wasnt... You just see a car hit her adn thats not enough to explain what happend same with the bank heist. Ras29 what made you sound even dumber then that was when you said that Buck was claiming and I also was claiming we want to play as different splinter cells like metal gear solid sons of liberty!?!?! NO I actually enjoy playing as Sam Fisher very much and what me and Buck were trying to say if you actually read our comments and not skim them or be dumb and misinterrpret them is that we CANT KILL A SPY OR ANOTHER SPLINTER CELL like in the trailer or like in bte xbox version and we are complaining over the fact that you cant on the 360 and that <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] regardless of how you feel about it or how I feel about it falsy advertised the whole game for the 360 and it doesnt have half of what it should have had... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
actually your stupid...
ras was right about what Buck said, maybe YOU should read it instead of skimming it...he said "Not just killing the other splintercell which i thought you would also be able to play as, but also where the heck Sam's daughter is supposed to get killed in a car accident? And doing bank heists?" Now this DEFINITELY means he thought you ge tto play as the other splinter cell. And I'm not sure, but the context and the way he words it also makes it sound like he never saw the part where Sarah died and he thought that you get to "DO" bank heists, which isn't the same as WATCH...learn how to read. And BUCK, just pay attention more when you play the game and read news articles about the game. Ras, you were right, don't sweat it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Thanks. Always nice to have somebody on your side.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Buck_Rogers007
11-01-2006, 02:37 AM
Ok ras29 i dont know how i missed the cut scene of his daughter getting hit by the car but i did. But as far as him being depressed where did it show that throughout the game? did i miss more cut scenes showing him in depression? and it still doesnt explain the other cut scenes you see before the game in the 360 version actually robbing a bank. It was an excuse made up by Lambert to get him in prison but there he is doing it. why show him doing it if the whole thing was faked? and if the other splintercell was only in the xbox version than why show you that trailer in the 360 version as if it were in the 360 version? Not to mention a few other trailers that were on the disk but not actually in the 360 version of the game (not sure about xbox). and lastly your sarcasm about the ending, gimme a break. you know what the **** im talking about. It didnt even fade out "while sam's walking down a corridor". There was no ending it just stopped. and stopping isnt an ending in a storytelling sense of the term. Please dont post back with sarcasm about getting technical. if you liked the "stopping" of the game then more power to ya.

ras29
11-01-2006, 02:44 AM
Here we go again.

Sam isn't depressed for the rest of the game cos he's got the mission to concentrate on. The only reason he went on the mission is to get out of depression. And since there was an odd 6 months after the end of the Iceland mission and the beginning of the Jail one, that's a lot of time to get over something.
Lambert did FAKE it. That IS Sam robbing the bank. I'm saying Lambert MADE him do it, Sam didn't just go, "I know! Lets rob a bank!". It's Sam following Lambert's orders, and robbing a bank. Sam isn't robbing it for his own good, he's ACTING. That's what I meant by a 'fake robbery'.
As for the Splinter Cell in the '360 trailer' - that trailer wasn't a '360 trailer', but a trailer for the game in general. It's advertising for the game on both Xbox AND 360, so it had some cutscenes from the Xbox Version and the 360 version.
And that 'fading out while walking down a corridor' was an example. I didn't say it actaully happened. I just said your comment about it not having an ending at all was a little weird.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Posted by jourdy080
you said that Buck was claiming and I also was claiming we want to play as different splinter cells like metal gear solid sons of liberty!?!?! NO </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's exactly what he said<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Posted by Buck_Rogers007
the other splintercell which i thought you would also be able to play as </div></BLOCKQUOTE>.
That sounds like he thought he wanted to play as that Splinter Cell. Sorry if I misunderstood, but, that comment makes it seem like he was claiming he thought he'd be able to play as a different Splinter Cell. But try not not be so angry and fill up the screen with '?!?!?!'. One is enough to get your point across.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Buck_Rogers007
11-01-2006, 11:06 AM
So they didnt show him depressed then did they? You made it sound like he was in obvious depression the whole game.

"What, you think Sam became depressed because he prevented a nuclear missile launch?" -ras29

But like i said, i missed the car accident scene so if you dont see that your not going to see him get upset or get "depressed" as you say because it only occurs in that scene.

"the only reason he went on the mission is to get out of depression" -ras29

Where did it say that?


The bank robberies again. whatever the reason behind him doing those bankrobberies, whether he wanted the money (i know he didnt) or he wanted to follow orders from lambert to get into prison they were still real bank robberies. Going into a bank with full automatic weapon and taking the money is a bank robbery no matter what the purpose of it is. Now what im saying is they should have at least put that cutscene into the game before the prison level with some more explanation other than showing taht as a trailer but then only have lambert explain it away in one simple sentence in game.

playing as a new splintercell to get to sam in case sam got too deep. this was a plot i read about way before 360 was even released. I dont remember where i read it but they had just announced this game. if they made changes i didnt see it anywhere but i expected it to be there.

-the ending again. i know what you meant about the fading out but thats not even a good point because like i said, It was LESS then even THAT. and to repeat myself for you, there was no Ending! it just stopped and stopping is NOT an ending in a STORYTELLING sense of the term. Its like ripping the last page out of a book. The "Ending" is gone. But it does stop. and if you cant even understand that then im not even going to attempt to entertain your points. and whats a little wierd is you suggesting that im making ridiculous claims like the game goes on forever so you can come back with sarcastic comments about a point im not even trying to make. my point was obvious.

ras29
11-01-2006, 10:22 PM
Okay, all your arguments make sense to me now, apart from the 'where did it say that he did the mission to get out of depression'.

It says it in the 'story' part of the manual, and also during the cutscene that you missed. Lambert says, "I hoped this mission would help him pull himself together," and "Prison - a hell of a place to save a man's life."<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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