H6 expansions : Elf faction ideas

[sanctuary.gr]

my ideas about elves 7 tiers enjoy.

normal - upgrade

tier one

wolf - warewolf


tier two


tiger rider - moon rider


tier three


elven archer - sharpshoter (NO PENALTY)

tier 4

stone giant - rock golem

tier 5

witch of the wild - elven keeper

tier 6

unicorn - flying unicorn

tier 7

sacred tree - tree of ages

elven tree was always my favourite unit i would like to see it tier 7 or golems alternatively

i have imags ready but i cannot attach them can anyone help me

[Asterisk]

Flying unicorn? Why not use Pegasus?

[Kartabon]

Flying unicorns? no please, at much I would put there a Pegasus as Asterisk thinks... but unicorns with wings? Omg no please :P

[ChaosArchon85]

WC3 Night Elves?

[Thunion]

WC3 Night Elves?
Yep Moon riders,golems..I hope academy gets theyr golems back.
I would like to see A Pixie/Archer/Druid/Tree/Unicorn/Dragon and someone else,meybe the same warewolf i never liked BladeDancers and i would like to see beastman to take theyr place.

[sanctuary.gr]

i am trying to change elves a little bit.
and nobody said me how to upload files.it is the first time i face this pronlem

[GoranXII]

You need to have images uploaded somewhere else on the web first

[Nalafein]

I liked blademasters, but i never fully enjoyed hmm5, i like certain units but never got the feel of the game.

Rampart/sylvan will probably come in a expansion pack along with dungeon and acedemy.

[Asterisk]

www.imageshack.us (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://www.michaelianblack.net/.a/6a00e54edada5e88330112791d0ec728a4-800wi

[sanctuary.gr]

omg

[thepyro_13]

Originally posted by leeboy26:
I'd support flying unicorns so long as they have propellers on the end of their horns.

Helicopter-Horn unicorns, now that's something I can support!

[ChaosArchon85]

So, the premier question on my mind is:
With the dragon (fairy, emerald, whatev...) gone from the top tier spot (presumably), what would be the best candidate for the top tier "sylvan" creature and why?

[GoranXII]

The Treant of course, tall as a tree and tough as teak.

[Thunion]

The Treant of course, tall as a tree and tough as teak.
To slow ;/.Btw who sayed dragon are gone from top tier?

[GoranXII]

Originally posted by Thunion:
To slow It was low initiative that got them in H5, not low speed, and now that we're back to one action per stack per turn... Besides, giraffes can spring at up to 60 kph, I don't see why Treants wouldn't be able to do the same.

[ChaosArchon85]

Btw who sayed dragon are gone from top tier?
The question could be reworded to say, "If dragons are gone from the top tier, what would be a good fit for the top tier creature?"

I'd accept a treant only if it had some added utility such as summoning or supporting other creatures. A top-tier creature that just slowly lumbers forward, stopped by walls, and attacks another (likely weaker)stack would not be useful enough to compete next to other top-tier creatures.

Maybe some new legendary creature could fill the spot, like a brilliant stag. Perhaps the phoenix could return to the elven ranks or we could see a simple unit elevated to top-tier status, like omnipotent druids.

[sanctuary.gr]

as am man who liked elves i have a suggestion.

if not the sacred tree a stone giant or golem.

to make it clear i do not mean the golem like this of academy who is a mechanical unit.

i want a beast of nature who lives deap in the forest of a mountain watching and protecting all creatures from demons.

to make it even more cspecific if you play dota you can imagine something like tiny char
after level 16.

i am sorry but i still did not find a way to upload photo.

i like pc game but i am awfull in any other pc matter.

[GoranXII]

Originally posted by ChaosArchon85:
I'd accept a treant only if it had some added utility such as summoning or supporting other creatures. A top-tier creature that just slowly lumbers forward, stopped by walls, and attacks another (likely weaker)stack would not be useful enough to compete next to other top-tier creatures. Yeah, well remember how quickly the Ents in LotR:TT tore the walls of Isengard apart...

[Asterisk]

i am sorry but i still did not find a way to upload photo.


Upload to www.imageshack.us (http://www.imageshack.us)

Then copy paste the link into your reply like this:

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[BlueLore]

Originally posted by sanctuary.gr:
as am man who liked elves i have a suggestion.

if not the sacred tree a stone giant or golem.

to make it clear i do not mean the golem like this of academy who is a mechanical unit.

i want a beast of nature who lives deap in the forest of a mountain watching and protecting all creatures from demons.

to make it even more cspecific if you play dota you can imagine something like tiny char
after level 16.

i am sorry but i still did not find a way to upload photo.

i like pc game but i am awfull in any other pc matter.

I understand what you mean,but a rock golem would be just like a new earth elemental.
The idea with this sacred tree is ok in my opinion,they could be like a magic version of the treant,if the treants become the champion unit.

[sanctuary.gr]

the tree of ages in a magical form.
i was thinking something different because it would be way to slow,but you had a better idea.
i do not think we will see dragon in tier 7.
even kirin in sanctuary (which looks like a dragon) is a version of a mythical japanese monster which did not belong in dragon type monsters.
so i would like to see ideas about elven tier seven.
an another idea i have would be a giant beast of the wilds.i think is better than tree.
tree is tradithionaly slow and defencive.

[sanctuary.gr]

made an another elven faction.enjoy
hope somebody can upload photos.
i do something wrong so i give you the webpage.

tier 1 warewolf - gurdian warewolf
http://img18.imageshack.us/i/spellp.jpg/

tier 2 beast rider-moon rider
http://img228.imageshack.us/i/huntergr.jpg/

tier 3 elven archer -sharpshooter
http://img848.imageshack.us/i/sharpshooter.jpg/

tier 4 wild taurent-taurent spirit
http://img824.imageshack.us/i/forestspirit.jpg/

tier 5 unicorn-silver unicorn
http://img98.imageshack.us/i/unicornn.jpg/

tier 6 tree giant-sacred tree
http://img638.imageshack.us/i/treantgiant.jpg/

tier 7 forest keeper-nature keeper
http://img690.imageshack.us/i/theprotector.jpg/

thx

[NatureSylvan]

look in this web http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=35026 in there h6 sylvan is created very nice !

[BlueLore]

@sanctuary.gr:
the wild taurent is a nice idea.
My lineup would be:
Core tier:
1.Pixie(or nymph)- pixie queen(or dryad)
2.Satyr-satyr warrior
3.elven archer- sharpshooter

Elite tier(could remain like in H5 in my opinion):
4.druid
5.unicorn
6.treant

Champion-tier:
Leshy/lesovik- elder leshy/lesovik(leshys or lesovik are guardians of the forest from the slavic mythology,they are usually depicted with a plantbeard and horns,they have the ability to change size and form(they could have two forms like the fate weaver) and have several other magical abilities)



The reason why I chose this is because I personally don't like it if a species is used too often(for example like your beast rider,since it just another elve unit,on the other hand the druid is ok in my opinion as the job itself would be already ok for a unit)and the werewolf should be an elite unit as werewolves are often said to be equal to vampires,but I also think they are normally too dark for the sylvan.
I also would prefer the leshy over the forest keeper,because the forest keeper is more or less invented,but the leshy isn'thttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[sanctuary.gr]

if i put warewolves in tier 4 then taurent spirit becomes tier 2 which would make it from an unique and powerfull spirit into a frontline soldier and to be honest i do not like that possibility.
unicorns and trees are tradition in heroes so the only tier it remains is tier 7,which come to think about it is not a bad idea, but then i have to kick out my champion.
i also do not like the conbination of druid and you tier 7 since in some images that i found your unit looks like a druid.
maybe you have an more fitted image so pls upload it.

[BlueLore]

Yes,but the taurent spirit is in my opinion kinda unnecessary,as it is just another form of the minotaur.

And well I didn't think of any special picture when I had the leshy in mind,I just read the description of what it looks like,which says that the leshy "usually appears as a tall man, but he is able to change his size from that of a blade of grass to a very tall tree. He has hair and a beard made from living grass and vines, and is sometimes depicted with a tail, hooves, and horns. He has pale white skin that contrasts with his bright green eyes"

But I also think,that the druid might be really unnecessary,as it will be most likely one of the magic orientated hero classes.
And I think the werewolf might be really good idea,because in the game kings bounty(which is often seen as a part of the might and magic series),there is in fact a werewolf elf and they could make something like this for the elves in heroes VI too.

[castiel_gabriel]

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1060878/m/6801099129 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5861060878/m/6801099129)

[NatureSylvan]

i think all sylvan creatures must be beautiful and good-humored. i think creatures must be-
1.pixie,sprite or guardian of forest.
2.maybe shifter as the druid.he could turn into the bear and wolf and allow to cast spells.
3.Elf Hunter,ranger... strong shooter.
4.maybe glowing white Unicorn.
5.Guardian Treant.with high defense.he must have Head on over his shoulder so as not as in heroes 5 mod,his head in abdomen :/. i would like with a lot of branches and roots in his feets.
6.Dryad,nymph or something similar to other types of trees.
7.Mantis or Gold dragon or Forest dragon, or white or colored sky, medium-sized Phoenix with a lot of beautiful feathers.
This is my opinion, and fantasy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[sanctuary.gr]

i have a diffrenet opinion.
considering all that have been writen and seen this is my new work.
enjoy.

tier 1 guardian elf - forest guardian

elves are fighting to protect their territory and their comrades.
they will not jump into the fray in the battlefield and make pay anyone who dares to challnge them.

ability basic - upgrade (support: the guardian elves will do 5% more damage if the enemy units is attacked by a friendly one before they lanch the attack in this round)

upgrade (elven range :when the entire population of a friendly tier is wipped out this unit will gain 1 attack attribute)

http://img34.imageshack.us/i/s...iredelvenswords.jpg/ (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/silverhairedelvenswords.jpg/)


tier 2 beast hunter - beast master

elves lives in the forest and they collect its fruits and hunt the animals.
however expert hunters are not catching animals just to feed their families but also to train them in order to aid them to both hunting and war.

ability basic ( hunters dagger: the hunter will throw a poisonous dagger to the target slowing his movements for a round)

upgrade (hunter eagle :the hunter will send towards an enemy range unit that will prevet his movements and vision delaying his movements for 2 rounds)


http://img850.imageshack.us/i/naturewarden.jpg/

tier three elf archer - sharpshooter

elves are masters in archery.this range unit will make sure nothing aproaches the elven camps.

ability basic (double shoot : elf archer will hit twice)

upgrade (no range penalty :no matter the distance elves will strike with no range penalty)

http://img848.imageshack.us/i/sharpshooter.jpg/

tier 4 warewolf - guardian warewolf

warewolves are humans that were cursed by a powerfull mage as a punishments for their greed.
humans saw them as abominations and hunted them down.they run deep into the forest.
in addition to humans elves believed that they were children of mother nature so they welcome them to their forest and helped to get use to this new enviroment.warewolves will protect elves in exchange with all their might.

ability basic and upgrade (beasts roar : warewolves ask the forests wolves to aid them.
a number of wolves similar to this of the warewolves will be summoned but in exchange warewolves will loose their turn)

upgrade (beasts rage :the warewolf will retaliate with increased power after got hit)

upgrade (rough skin :as a magical creature the warewolf has increased magic resistance)


http://img806.imageshack.us/i/spell.jpg/

tier 5 white unicorn - silver unicorn

story known.old unit.

ability basic and upgrade (distance bonus :
unicorn will deal more damage if he attacks from a great distance)

upgrade (blind :unicorn has a chance to blind its target making him to loose 1 turn if enemy unit is champion,2 turn if it is elite,3 if it is core.)


http://img717.imageshack.us/i/unicorntw.jpg/

tier 6 tree giant - sacred tree

story known.old unit.

ability basic and upgrade (Entangling
Roots:when an enemy gets attacked by them he will not be able to move from that spot until the tree moves or die)

basic and upgrade (plan root:When the creature receives the Defend command, it gets 50% bonus to Defense plus ability to retaliate after all
enemy attacks until the next turn.)

upgrade (immune to earth magic:earth magic spells will not affect them)

http://img28.imageshack.us/i/forestogreweb.jpg/

tier 7 king of forest - emperor of nature

three wild beasts as a the tier 7.
tell me which you liked most
1. http://img543.imageshack.us/i/936max.jpg/

2. http://img705.imageshack.us/i/...1804tikbalang2d.jpg/ (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/1180x9361804tikbalang2d.jpg/)

3. http://img850.imageshack.us/i/mtgforestguardian.jpg/

the most wild and powerfull creature of the forest.the guardian of all wild animals,elves and trees.you want to enter forest in order to see the miracle of nature.it will welcome you and embrace you as its child.you come to harvest trees,kill animals and burn the forest.
be ready to fill its wrath.

ability basic (feel my wrath : entering in a spirit form,it will run apon a selecting target and will hit him with 1,2 times normal damage avoiding all types of blockings.enemy will retaliate)

basic and upgrade (block : there is a 30% chance that any damaging or other harming spell casted upon him will be blocked and so not happen)

upgrade (wrath of the emperor: entering in a spirit form,it will run apon a selecting target and will hit him with 1,3 times normal damage avoiding all types of blockings.enemy will not retaliate)

[castiel_gabriel]

three wild beasts as a the tier 7.
tell me which you liked most
1. http://img543.imageshack.us/i/936max.jpg/

2. http://img705.imageshack.us/i/...1804tikbalang2d.jpg/ (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/1180x9361804tikbalang2d.jpg/)

3. http://img850.imageshack.us/i/mtgforestguardian.jpg/


i like the first one its awesome you have good idea

[NatureSylvan]

tier 6 is ugliest creature i have ever seen :/ sylvan creatures must be beautiful.i like your tier 7 forest keeper-nature keeper which you show before.Forest Dragon.

[BlueLore]

Originally posted by NatureSylvan:
tier 6 is ugliest creature i have ever seen :/ sylvan creatures must be beautiful.i like your tier 7 forest keeper-nature keeper which you show before.Forest Dragon.

so you are saying the treants have to be good looking?I can hardly imagine a beatiful treant...

[belgarath21]

Hello,

I think werewolves (or any other lycanthrope) are inappropriate for good nature-oriented elves. I don't think elves would necessarily shun werewolves, but I don't see them being an integral part of their armies. Werewolves also are typically associated (outside of paranormal romance stories for girls/women) with savagery and great evil. Werewolves and drow (dark elves)would make a good combination.

I think a good tier 7 unit (other than silver or gold dragons) would be elves (gender doesn't matter) mounted on pegasi. I can't think of a better elf-oriented powerful flying unit.

Pixies (nymph/sprite/fairy....whatever) of course might work as tier 1. I think a fairy dragon (a la HOMM 4) is simply not impressive enough for a tier 7. Phoenixes might also work, but I think of phoenixes as being more of an elemental type neutral unit.

I hope that Ubisoft is able to make expansions that bring elves, dwarves and other races/factions into HOMM 6. I think a fantasy world bereft of elves and dwarves is lacking in flavor (humans for the plains, elves for the forests, dwarves for mountains). I do like the addition of the naga as their own water-based faction instead of being foot soldiers for wizards like in HOMM 4.

Looking forward to a great game!

[leeboy26]

Elves are gay, and anyone who likes elves are gay too, or at least once had a gay experiance. A friend of mine at uni was sitting with his roomate gavin after a night out and they were just messing around having a bit of a wrestle you know? He kinda accidently touched Gavin's arms and he'd been working out recently and his arms were like sausages squeezed into a balloon and things got out of hand until eventually he just walked away and had a shower. Gavin was... a great guy (so my friend said).

Anyway, how about a differant take on elves? Maybe have them as rednecks with a tendency toward incest and being outwitted by wily big-city folk.

[Shawn85]

I can appreciate that elves are a fantasy staple and that those two factions were popular. Still, Sylvan were a bunch of sallies and need a major 'apache theme' overhaul. Im suprised they excluded dungeon because they had chick units in stripper outfits (ubihole loves em), also they were very popular. That being said both of em need to be afterthoughts behind the best faction, Academy. Wizards > Elves

[NatureSylvan]

i think beautiful treant is something like this http://rookery9.aviary.com.s3....6003584_c8af_sqr.jpg (http://rookery9.aviary.com.s3.amazonaws.com/6003500/6003584_c8af_sqr.jpg)
and maybe something like this http://www.elfwood.com/art/d/e...gache_ent_lovers.jpg (http://www.elfwood.com/art/d/e/delfingache/dgache_ent_lovers.jpg)

[belgarath21]

Just so you know, I'm a male heterosexual and no, I haven't "experimented". Let's focus on the game guys, please!

[leeboy26]

Originally posted by belgarath21:
Just so you know, I'm a male heterosexual and no, I haven't "experimented". Let's focus on the game guys, please!

You're right dude lets man up and talk about fairies. Sequels are always a bit gayer than previous games, so I guess we were lucky it wasn't called 'Heroes of Brokeback Mountain' or something, with a Titan and Black Dragon wishing they knew how to quit each other.

[belgarath21]

I posted on the "expansion factions" thread that I thought hobbits(halflings) would work very well in the place of fairies as either a tier 1 or tier 2 unit.

Hobbits, if anyone recalls, were part of HOMM 2.