Should "versus mode" have the same graphics engine as the rest of the game? [Archive]

samDaa

12-24-2005, 05:57 PM

exactly, you have to counter in that sure great graphics are nice but you're going to get more lag, etc. I prefer decent graphics and an even better game. Graphics mean absolutly nothing to me.

III_ICEMAN_III

12-24-2005, 06:18 PM

c'mon everybody cares about graphics! i personally say "yes" for the same engine if they can swing it.

hegemonsoldier

12-24-2005, 06:20 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by III_ICEMAN_III:
c'mon everybody cares about graphics! i personally say "yes" for the same engine if they can swing it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
My thoughts exactly.

braiog

12-24-2005, 06:36 PM

The engine can support both SP and MP games, however there are character rigs and animations that will probably only be present in one or the other, so adjustments need to be made.

With a release time of 9 months since the last game, there's no reason why the SvM cannot be in a CT-caliber engine. Anything less would, IMO, mean that the community wasn't respected enough for the SvM to be developed to it's best potential.

My biggest concern is the poor track record of patching and bug squashing along with Ubi's direction they're taking SvM. Change it too much and it's no longer the game people fell in love with.

mrguytodd

12-24-2005, 07:53 PM

Seeing how the multiplayer on the CT engine was almost completely broken, I'd rather have Versus on the PT engine, but chances are that's not gonna happen.

Leprechaun9

12-24-2005, 09:14 PM

If possible, yes.

Ninja720

12-24-2005, 10:57 PM

I say no to reduce lag in the game, if they up it from the PT svm engine, but still keep lag to a minimun, then hell ya, but if thats not possible, then...well no.

Chimera87

12-25-2005, 05:19 AM

no, i dont see why....

i dont know what it is with graphics lately....

versus is an uberfast reaction game, i seriously dont find time to look for nice little graphics...

FIN-Ravager

12-25-2005, 06:51 AM

Playability of the current game, but the looks of SWAT 4.

MR.Mic

12-25-2005, 07:18 AM

I'd rather have PT engine.

Iservealot

12-25-2005, 10:08 AM

we already have a watered down version of the PT engine for versus.

Keep in mind, they are not gonna use the same SVM engine that they are using now. They will be using the SC3 engine. Havent u all seen the teaser video for Multiplayer? Did't some one confirm that the video was infact footage of the new multiplayer? that video does in fact look like the new SCX engine. Or should I say old scx engine? blah

Ninja720

12-25-2005, 12:32 PM

Can you provide a link? I'd like to see this vid

shoot_to_kill01

12-25-2005, 12:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MR.Mic:
I'd rather have PT engine, because my pc sucks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

fixed. no harm done

Chimera87

12-25-2005, 01:44 PM

lol do u know what ur saying...

Mic is running a 6800 Ultra in SLI mode.... dude....

and i also said i'd like the old engine...

and dont u dare say that my comp sux...

x2 3800+
1gb RAM
7800GT
Sata hdd
soon also 7800GT in sli and 2 gb ram (by the time that scda is out)

shoot_to_kill01

12-25-2005, 01:52 PM

dude ur comp sucks

vselka_tom

12-25-2005, 02:10 PM

sata hdd?
so u got a lovely sata 4gb hdd?
nice
bet windows 3.1 kicks butt on ur machine, lol

naaa, its not possible to have such good graphics on multiplayer
it wud slow things down
both on client and server sides
best leave the ideas to the developers i say
i also say just cos u "think" youv got a good piece of kit doesnt mean u know how to use it or it makes u a better gamer

Chimera87

12-25-2005, 02:14 PM

hmmm i will take it as sarcasm, cuz i clearly stated ram...

ow and if u wanna know (dont think so) its a 160gb.

Imp4cto

12-25-2005, 02:24 PM

Abosolutly NO!!!

cus imagine ****
ur playing a good game... 1 ofu must go away..... so u wait for new player thinking "this game is gonnabe fun even with noob...."..... a noob really commes .... u start a game....... FPS 15..... wtf???....... that noob has pixel sharder 3.0 and like every setting on higest..... have fun **** =))

just want to say: Who cares about graphics? Every1 when the game runs slow because of it â¬.â¬

and about the vid - hope we both mean the same one - u think ist footage??? okay my fri.......lmfao....... ok,ok,ok,ok,ok... That's how the real game will look lol. Well than prepare on like 0.5 FPS. That is gonna be like a new kind of bullet time or what??? =)

goodkebab_00

12-25-2005, 02:26 PM

the unreal engine is tried and tested for online play, is fast, and programmers can be hired that have experience using it.

The CT engine is in a constant state of developement and because COOP is unstable online....what is so great about it?

Eclyps3

12-25-2005, 03:01 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vselka_tom:
sata hdd?
so u got a lovely sata 4gb hdd?
nice
bet windows 3.1 kicks butt on ur machine, lol
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow you must be a PC whiz, ey?

Or just a regular moron.

Take your pick.

Tamand

12-25-2005, 05:42 PM

Sounds like your compensateing for something chimera.

vselka_tom

12-26-2005, 02:12 AM

yup, im a regular moron

Chimera87

12-26-2005, 07:33 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tamand:
Sounds like your compensateing for something chimera. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>yeah im compensating that i dont drink alcohol and do have some money, compared to the other fellow students @ my uni, that cant afford a pc like this....

Imp4cto

12-26-2005, 09:35 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chimera87:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tamand:
Sounds like your compensateing for something chimera. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>yeah im compensating that i dont drink alcohol and do have some money, compared to the other fellow students @ my uni, that cant afford a pc like this.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif i know this is OT, but which university???? lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ZeN1985

12-26-2005, 09:55 AM

I dont think that SvM should have graphics like in rest of the game, cuz the laggs will be very high, and the SvM will be unplayable

shoot_to_kill01

12-26-2005, 09:59 AM

your pc sucks

Imp4cto

12-26-2005, 10:12 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by shoot_to_kill01:
your pc sucks </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

u shuck, shu*ker rofl.

btw @ALL : This message is http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1241.gif lmao http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

pretend3r

12-26-2005, 10:38 AM

First Imp4cto, fix your sig, I'm seeing more colour codes that anything else.

Graphics shouldnt matter with a good game engine. plain and simple. Battlefield 2 is also an amazing looking game. Do i ever get lag there when i play with 64 people in a server? Never. And im running that game on full aswell.

vselka_tom

12-26-2005, 11:06 AM

so what degree u doin Chimera87

also i was bein sarcastic > Eclyps3
(so dont try and play with the big boys)

Imp4cto

12-26-2005, 11:48 AM

sig fixed lol

I play battlefield too. but CT on even medium runs slow for me. And i seriously doubt i have the worst PC from u http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Chimera87

12-26-2005, 11:50 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Imp4cto:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chimera87:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tamand:
Sounds like your compensateing for something chimera. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>yeah im compensating that i dont drink alcohol and do have some money, compared to the other fellow students @ my uni, that cant afford a pc like this.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif i know this is OT, but which university???? lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif Technical University of Eindhoven.

shoot_to_kill01

12-26-2005, 11:56 AM

Imp4cto

12-26-2005, 12:06 PM

if u have a sister, we could make a deal about thet rape â¬.â¬

@Chimera: that tells me exactly nothing =)

shoot_to_kill01

12-26-2005, 12:08 PM

your insult didn't make sense http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Imp4cto

12-26-2005, 12:50 PM

maybe, but u know it was an insult so it probably doesen't even matter http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Chimera87

12-26-2005, 03:07 PM

Technical University of Eindhoven, The Netherlands.

Studying Mechanical Engineering, first year, just passed my first trimester, with subjects "Mechanics", "Calculus", "Production Technology" and "Mechanial Engineering: an overview"

Currently having "Linear Algebra", "Dynamics", "Signal Analysis" and "Introduction to Flow and Heat"....

Eclyps3

12-26-2005, 05:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vselka_tom:
so what degree u doin Chimera87

also i was bein sarcastic > Eclyps3
(so dont try and play with the big boys) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Errrr? I was busy imagining Jack Bauer quoting your previous post. Did I miss something?

Imp4cto

12-27-2005, 02:37 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chimera87:
Technical University of Eindhoven, The Netherlands.

Studying Mechanical Engineering, first year, just passed my first trimester, with subjects "Mechanics", "Calculus", "Production Technology" and "Mechanial Engineering: an overview"

Currently having "Linear Algebra", "Dynamics", "Signal Analysis" and "Introduction to Flow and Heat".... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ok, have fun up there http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Falcon55

12-27-2005, 02:58 AM

The Versus mode should have the graphics engine as the SOLO mode on the Xbox version.

It would be nice and wouldn't run laggy at all.

Look at coop mode for the Xbox, it runs well.

Imp4cto

12-27-2005, 03:11 AM

no offence, but doesen't everything runs well on XboX???

I'm afraid of some n00bs with too high settings on PC

Falcon55

12-27-2005, 03:15 AM

Naw, u didn't understand me correctly. I meant to say if the COOP mode runs well for Xbox then the VERSUS mode wouldn't have a problem supporting the same graphics engine. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

shoot_to_kill01

12-27-2005, 07:23 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Imp4cto:
maybe, but u know it was an insult so it probably doesen't even matter http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll make u my b-i-t-c-h and make you cry
I have s-hitted all over your favorite pie
I've heard that you're a b-i-t-c-h for hire
I raped your mother when your house was on fire
Unfortunately my rap lyrics are running thin
But my balls are still flapping on your chin

cheese_thief

12-27-2005, 06:56 PM

I'd rather it just use the newer engine. If it runs too slow, there are numerous things you can do to make it run faster.

In it's current state, the engine used for SvM is a piece of ****. It's netcode sucks, input code sucks, sound sucks, and you think they'll fix it? IF they do, then yes, I'm all for them using the same ol' engine, but the new one has much more potential with netcode being the only thing wrong with it.

Fu114ce

12-28-2005, 02:13 PM

It depends. I'm an Xbox gamer and I don't mind long loading times when i'm playing single or Co-op, on any game, but short loading times are way better for Multiplayer. If they can keep the loading times down while still keeping the graphics up, then go for it.
I'm not worried what the game in MP looks like.

dark.focus

12-30-2005, 06:29 AM

Wtf, of course yes
ItâÂ´s the devâÂ´s job to make the game looks very good and have less lags: OMG, look at MMORPG or BAttlefield, see the graphical quality and they have far less lags than Versus. They need improve the game, not screw it

capteenix

12-30-2005, 06:50 AM

but less people could experience it...ytake for example counter-strike 1.6 and counter-strike: Source

dark.focus

12-30-2005, 06:54 AM

Only add a lot of option to customize the game graphical quality

cheese_thief

12-31-2005, 01:03 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dark.focus:
Only add a lot of option to customize the game graphical quality </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bingo. Scalability would be the best thing for the new engine.

MR.Mic

01-01-2006, 03:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cheese_thief:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dark.focus:
Only add a lot of option to customize the game graphical quality </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bingo. Scalability would be the best thing for the new engine. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Unless it compromises the balance of the game.

St0rm_5had0w

01-01-2006, 06:36 PM

Like say EAX superman ears? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Raakile91

01-02-2006, 01:13 PM

EAX or better visiblity in dark areas with high settings for some reason / shadows smaller for some reason.

Chaos4Sure

01-02-2006, 01:33 PM

If you guys didnt realize, versus mode was never intended for CT. It was a last munite decision, thats why it had a different menu and gfx. But this time, they have planned it from the beggining, so its probably the same engine this time around.

Eclyps3

01-02-2006, 02:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaos4Sure:
If you guys didnt realize, versus mode was never intended for CT. It was a last munite decision, thats why it had a different menu and gfx. But this time, they have planned it from the beggining, so its probably the same engine this time around. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't tell me you actually believe that ****.
It was a trick - they didn't say anything about versus, keeping the fans on their toes. And then *BOOM!!!* - a Public Beta!(aka limited MP demo).
Doesn't seem like a commercial trick... noooooo... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif