"Closer than Ever" system ; keep it or ditch it ?

[Knot3D]

[Knot3D]

[Malleus.]

Yup, I agree. It's a good idea but needs some tweaking.

[psyichic]

in agreement here. Also make the moves complete! If anyone else has noticed the from behind stab goes for the guy's kidney. THis is what is trained for killing someone from behind with a knife in the military but the way it is done is stab in the kidney (It puts them into shock for a few seconds) and then cut their throat. I Just was thinking throughout all those kills I made "How does stabbing someone in the side kill them?" ( Or atleast kill them instantly)

[Spekkio9]

In the side, it involves puncturing a lung. You will surely die unless you are rushed to a hospital. You can also stab someone in the liver with the same reasonable expectation.

Yes, some of his moves are fake, but it's a game, so who cares?

[IonG.O.D.]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Spekkio9:
In the side, it involves puncturing a lung. You will surely die unless you are rushed to a hospital. You can also stab someone in the liver with the same reasonable expectation.

Yes, some of his moves are fake, but it's a game, so who cares? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't.

[MKCC14]

Keep it, it actually shows sam getting more quiet than ever when approaching an enemy which never happened in sc1 or scpt.

[MadamTampini]

I think they should use the PT default walk but add in the "closer than ever" system. I liked the way he held himself in CT around enemies. He also moved even if I couldn't see anyone thus warning me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[MKCC14]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MadamTampini:
I think they should use the PT default walk but add in the "closer than ever" system. I liked the way he held himself in CT around enemies. He also moved even if I couldn't see anyone thus warning me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The sneak in sc1 was done much better. I didnt like scpt's sneak all that much, for some reason it looked like he was sneaking way too slow, even though thats the point.

[Chaos477]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by psyichic:
in agreement here. Also make the moves complete! If anyone else has noticed the from behind stab goes for the guy's kidney. THis is what is trained for killing someone from behind with a knife in the military but the way it is done is stab in the kidney (It puts them into shock for a few seconds) and then cut their throat. I Just was thinking throughout all those kills I made "How does stabbing someone in the side kill them?" ( Or atleast kill them instantly) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>He stabs their liver, not their kidney (only in that technique). Every move Sam Fisher does is lethal, it only involves one action. For example: The stab move right in front of the enemy, he stabs them in the kidney and then pushes them off his knife, the kidney, liver, heart, jugular, arteries... etc are all sensitive areas, it depends how hard and how fast you perform it for the best results. If you notice correctly, every single move Sam uses is realistic and it is used by special ops, every single move is deadly, try punching yourself (not severly) on the side of your neck just 2 cm below your jaw, you feel so much pressure, now imagine this being done by a 78 kg man who is ripped with muscles punching you at that area specifically.

[slit1neck2speed]

i like The closer than ever system. I think it looks really professional http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif look at the screen shot ......clickety click click!!!!!!!!!! http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2127/92693420060616screen0015vh.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92693420060616screen0015vh.jpg)

[cooldude6681]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif for the closer than ever system. I loved it in CT, keep it.

[seinfan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slit1neck2speed:
i like The closer than ever system. I think it looks really professional http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif look at the screen shot ......clickety click click!!!!!!!!!! http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2127/92693420060616screen0015vh.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=92693420060616screen0015vh.jpg) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There is no point in arguing to keep it or not. Judging by that screenie it looks like they kept it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[CovertKi11]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaos477:
If you notice correctly, every single move Sam uses is realistic and it is used by special ops, </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm sure spec ops hang from pipes by their feet and do split jumps. Let's not forget ledge grabs.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chaos477:
every single move is deadly, try punching yourself (not severly) on the side of your neck just 2 cm below your jaw, you feel so much pressure, now imagine this being done by a 78 kg man who is ripped with muscles punching you at that area specifically. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Speaking of the H2H aspect, care to explain how a raking knee from in front from the guard's stomach down to his groin knocks him out? He might be in pain and pissed off, but he's not going to immediately lose conciousness from a (possibly) ruptured bladder and bruised groin. He might not be able to get up, depending on the internal damage from the raking knee, but he's going to be yelling like a mother****er.

And despite what you think about the neck blow, that's an incomplete technique. Getting hit there will stun you, maybe even make you black out, no question about it. But how long do you really think you'll be down unless your throat gets crushed or something? Which is pretty unlikely seeing the angle his hook is coming from.

If you want utter, utter realism (which I don't because realistic games suck), Sam would need to do something to the guy once he's stunned to make sure he doesn't get up. Break his neck, apply a blood or air choke or else just tear the guy down into a cross mount and bounce his head on the ground a couple times or something (Which wouldn't be very effective if the guy's wearing a helmet).

All of Sam's moves are extremely simplified so they're nice, easy and quick.

[CovertKi11]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by IHAteYou1971:
Covert you sound like a supergeek. Do you have no life and are you a 40 year old virgin? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>No, I'm 19. And I've been wrestling and practicing Jiu-Jitsu for most of those years.

[Daphne_555]

Go post on some forum you like.

[Daphne_555]

I'm not a moderator. But I have no idea why they're only deleting your posts, when they should be banning you. I would not tolerate this BS for one second.

[Daphne_555]

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif Now we should all forget about this, and not waste a milisecond more thinking about that troll.

[seinfan]

um... you're still posting, ****face? not at you daphne.

[law_order32247]

lol he's finally gone!

Cudos to the admins for great response time.

[Daphne_555]

C'mon mods, just ban him already!

[Daphne_555]

You heard the man...

[seinfan]

I hope that bipolar kid was banned. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

[seinfan]

hey, bipolar kid, you seem to be spending your precious time here by mocking people left and right. what a hyporcrite. your wasting your time just by living. just kill yourself now and make everyone happy.

[Cheeserdude]

I voted keep it but tweak it. there was a glitch where Sam's hand magically went through the knife when he went to grab it. not much of a tweak, but w\e

[Jackie Fiest]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daphne_555:
You heard the man... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey guys...sorry about about the troll. Took care of it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

[Daphne_555]

You go girl (forgive me).

[Daphne_555]

You go girl (please forgive me).

[Jackie Fiest]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daphne_555:
You go girl (please forgive me). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


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[law_order32247]

Thanks Jackie. I was hoping someone would trash that idiot.

[Jackie Fiest]

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[Knot3D]

I still vote for SC1 or PT sneakwalk + a tweaked closer than ever system.

SC CT's normal sneakwalk looks a bit dull

[tikko76]

didnt you start the post knot