EVERYONE READ. Regarding Cheats, glitches etc etc. [Archive]

XyZspineZyX

05-14-2004, 04:40 AM

Enough is quite enough. This forum, has become nothing more than a total moan fest. Everyone is moaning about something or other.

The biggest problem, clearly is cheats. Half of you hate it, and the other half keep telling everyone how to do it, thereby making the problem worse.

Since the topic has been discussed to death, and since it leads to such bad feelings, and gives an overall negative opinion (so bad in fact I don't play online) about the game, we are putting a stop to it.

This forum, is here to discuss the game, yes, not spend all the time complaining about cheats, mods, or people moaning about.

Cheats are a part of Gaming, always has been always will be. The key is to play with people you know, and ONLY people you know.

From now on, any post that talks about how to cheat, glitche, or trick will be locked, anyone, telling people how to enable cheats or take advantage of a glitch, will receive one warning only, after which they will be banned.

ANY swearing or insults will follow the same course.

If you feel you must discuss cheating, then do it in this Thread ONLY. However no talk about how to do something will be tolerated, no posting of Other peoples details. Most importantly KEEP IT CIVIL

Any post complaining about these rules will also be deleted. These forums will be cleaned up so they are fun and enjoyable for everyone, not just the whiners.

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"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
- Sun-tzu

XyZspineZyX

05-14-2004, 04:40 AM

ox Se7eN xo

05-14-2004, 04:43 AM

and also, we are getting pretty fed up with all these "PLEASE RELEASE A PATCH UBI!"

if a patch is coming out, Bullet will tell you all!

so until then, STOP MOANING!

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XyZspineZyX

05-14-2004, 05:26 AM

Also I forgot to mention, posts will vanish, and no explanations will be given, until the forum, is once again civil and decent.

If your post dissapears, then there was something wrong with it. Any posts Asking why their thread was deleted will be deleted. This post, and the correct forum use post explain everything.

Thanks

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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein 
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
- Sun-tzu

TU_Leviathan

05-14-2004, 09:33 AM

Sweet, I thought you guys didn';t do anything but now I'm impressed lol j/k good job guys.
REally there are no real cheats in this game except for talking to a person while your dead, and they're fixing that.

Everything else are glitches that just happen on accident lol. And don't bring that 3sc and tazer **** in here that **** is gay. lol

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terminallyirish

05-14-2004, 11:08 AM

Concerning S7N's comment about the patch: Screw you guys!! If UBI wasn't so obsessed with the all-mighty dollar, maybe they'd take a little more time to properly clean up their product! You don't want to hear it, THEN FIX IT!
As the consumer, it is my right; no, my responsibility to *****, moan, gripe, complain, etc. about anything I feel should have been fixed before the product was shipped. Mostly to warn others of the problems inherit in an otherwise great game.

Xantaus05

05-14-2004, 11:18 AM

are you going to tell people uve deleted their posts, because if i think ive posted something and come back l8er and its not there, ill just post it again (unless its too long for me to be bothered)

player name: Xan-99
team m8 name: HotDogboy23
you gotta love the tazor

XyZspineZyX

05-14-2004, 12:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Xantaus05:
are you going to tell people uve deleted their posts, because if i think ive posted something and come back l8er and its not there, ill just post it again (unless its too long for me to be bothered)

player name: Xan-99
team m8 name: HotDogboy23
you gotta love the tazor<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you read one of my posts above, you will know I have already told everyone. If someone's post is deleted and they repost it will be deleted again, and you will receive a warning.

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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein 
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
- Sun-tzu

ala3044sia

05-14-2004, 12:50 PM

Man, I just played with a spy online, that was using granades on me. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gifWTF is happening, I have right to complain. And its the only way the developers can find out that there is ways to cheats, and try to limit it, perhaps on a next patch..

Billy

XyZspineZyX

05-14-2004, 12:53 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by ala3044sia:
Man, I just played with a spy online, that was using granades on me. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gifWTF is happening, I have right to complain. And its the only way the developers can find out that there is ways to cheats, and try to limit it, perhaps on a next patch..

Billy<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Indeed complain away, and yes complaints do help with game development. Instead of there being 50 threads all essentially saying the same thing, there is now a single thread for people to complain.

However if people can't remain civil, as often happens, then the "right" to complain will be removed.

Unfortunately the minority spoil it for the majority.

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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein 
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
- Sun-tzu

PAKMAN52SE

05-14-2004, 04:17 PM

Thanks for doing this it was really getting annoying with every other post being about complaining.

GT:Pakman 52

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silverzeus

05-14-2004, 07:24 PM

Alright... I have over 100 hours recorded online on this game. I am done playing. I'm a Sergeant in the Marine Corps and I will recommend to all my friends and fellow peers and subordinates not to play/rent/buy this game. I'm not going to sell this to a used videogame store either because I don't anyone to pick up my lower priced copy. I loved this game for a while. The cheating is too much. With all of the intelligence and technology at Ubi. you're telling us that cheating is here to stay? Well, I'll wait for Halo 2 then. Bungie is a company that knows skill is priceless amongst us hardcore gamers. The Covenant has more talent than someone with good frag timing for a spawn kill. There is no skill in cheating. If you can't begin a round (i.e.-spawn) how can you put up a fight? Ubisoft will not get my business again. I will be a strong negative supporter against you from here on out, and I know hundreds of Marines who know hundreds and thousands beyond that. Once someone raises a flag in the air exposing something wrong we all tend to come to the same conclusion and abolish it if need be. The cheating has ruined this game. I'll see you in the Ninja Master Tournament.

Neothermic

05-15-2004, 08:10 AM

as far as that goes, leaving the game won't help. it's only just been released, fixes ARE on their way, so leaving the community won't help.

on a more cheerful note, is bullet our link to ubi or something?

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SITHDUKE

05-15-2004, 06:27 PM

They're not saying don't give your opinoons their simply saying don't tell peopel how to cheat and don't make threads simplt to complain. Constructive criticism is what they want and it's not right that the entire forums consists of the same threads over and over.

basically if your gonna talk about cheats then give no details and suggest ways to fix it rather than complain mindlessly.

Or at least this is my interpretation of it. I could be wrong however.

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BizzaroNeck

05-15-2004, 10:58 PM

Wow, now that was an intelligent well thought out post. Thanks for your opinion.

[This message was edited by SKULLS_Hawk on Sun May 16 2004 at 05:09 AM.]

XyZspineZyX

05-16-2004, 05:16 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by SITHDUKE:
They're not saying don't give your opinoons their simply saying don't tell peopel how to cheat and don't make threads simplt to complain. Constructive criticism is what they want and it's not right that the entire forums consists of the same threads over and over.

basically if your gonna talk about cheats then give no details and suggest ways to fix it rather than complain mindlessly.

Or at least this is my interpretation of it. I could be wrong however.

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Just your friendly Sith posting again ^_^<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are quite right indeed, however his post is gone, as I stated in my post.

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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein 
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
- Sun-tzu

Low_Bias

05-16-2004, 07:33 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by SKULLS_Hawk:
...gives an overall negative opinion (so bad in fact I don't play online) about the game, we are putting a stop to it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

*applause*

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SixxHole

05-16-2004, 08:46 AM

Why delete my post?

"If you feel you must discuss cheating, then do it in this Thread ONLY. However no talk about how to do something will be tolerated, no posting of Other peoples details. Most importantly KEEP IT CIVIL"

-Skulls_Hawk

I believe I did that. Didn't shout, didn't cuss, just stated what I thought(like you said was ok in this thread). Im sorry though, im not here to argue and am not looking to get banned.

[This message was edited by SixxHole on Sun May 16 2004 at 09:09 AM.]

Xantaus05

05-16-2004, 09:25 AM

can i recive a warning the first time u delete my post so i know not to post it again, and dont think tht it was either not posted or posted somewhere else?

player name: Xan-99
team m8 name: HotDogboy23
you gotta love the tazor

Styphon57

05-16-2004, 02:07 PM

skulls I need a little clarification please. It seems from your original post in this thread that cheats are part of gaming so don't play with people you don't know? I'm sorry friend, but it's the game manufacturer's responsibility to do everything they can to stop cheating. People cheat in pro sports but we still have officiating do we not? I don't expect ubi to absoluetely block 100% of cheats 100% of the time but they ought to do everything they can.

Here are some cheats I have personally encountered:

1: perma spy trap/ spy bullet always active on the opposing team at all times. caught someone red-handed using this on me.

2: spies with frag grenades

3: mercs running as fast/faster than spies.

these are all game breaking cheats that ruin the experience that I paid for when I bought the game.

I don't understand why you are prohibiting the customer bases' ability to post and discuss these cheats with each other. Now we all have to be forced to dig through one thread? That's gonna get tiring and cumbersome after a while don't you think? I'm sorry if you have to spend an inordinate amount of time reading whine threads, but you shouldn't allow your personal frustrations with such threads to impede the ability of the rest of us, to discuss our concerns with the problems this potentially great game has.

I can understand if some kid that says "dewd u suck cuz you *Expletive* cheat. this game suxxors" gets his post deleted. I'm just asking that you don't lump the rest of our complaints in with this kind of obnoxious ranting.

ZachariahG

05-16-2004, 02:19 PM

While I understand the need to keep forums civil, telling a game's customers to "deal" with show-stopping in-game issues is poor customer service.

Purchasers of SC2 have a right to be upset right now. The game contains a myriad of glitches, imbalance, and of course cheats. They also have the right to expect Ubi (or the developers, I'm unsure whose responsibility this is) to fix these in a timely manner.

Cheats will never be stopped, but to not try is like condoning hacks and cheats. Splinter Cell does not have the communities that say Half-Life and Battlefield1942 have, so we can't be reliant on free 3rd-party anti-cheats like cheating-death. Therefore, it becomes the dev/publisher's responsibility to keep their products up-to-date with anti-cheat technology.

However this is handled with Splinter Cell will determine if many customers will buy further ubi-products. If the game support continues at this alarmingly low rate, (this is the second poorly supported Ubi game I've purchased) many, including myself, will be voting with our dollars.

Sceptre6666

05-16-2004, 02:44 PM

Read below.

[This message was edited by Sceptre6666 on Sun May 16 2004 at 02:54 PM.]

Sceptre6666

05-16-2004, 02:52 PM

I would like to retract the majority of my statements posted here, as they were immature and fueled by anger. However, I do beleive the Admins of this board need to realise, we have the right to complain. We have the right to play with other people. We should Not have to deal with spies who have frag grenades. I do not play Multiplayer games over the internet to play with my friends, when i could easily invite them over for a LAN game. I find the Admins have tried to take an immature way out, which is sad. I had faith in at least you guys, but have you PLAYED the game recently? If you had, you'd be right with us, complaining.

X Fire gamertag = Sceptre

Ubi.com name= Sceptre6666

Sceptre6666

05-16-2004, 02:53 PM

oops, clicked wrong button/

hurricanetypoon

05-16-2004, 03:29 PM

The only thing I wish that Ubisoft would fix is the CDkey. Sadly, i have not played the game online once execpt for the demo. I have not got to experience the game truely.

The reason for the CDkey, i don't know. If it provides security then I still say remove it. The disks are safe as it is. Some people didn't even recive CDkeys. The demo is also being fixed, I don't know why. I belive that they should fix the full verson quickly. I have fun playing the demo, so I bought the full verson. But, as I stated above I have not gotten to play online yet.

Arkalius

05-16-2004, 06:11 PM

Yes, we all have the right to complain about the game and what not. The moderators of this forum also have the right to make whatever rules they want to make. They didn't say they don't want you to report bugs or cheats. They just want it to be done in an organized manner (in this thread) without whining and moaning about it, and without bashing other people.

They also do not want people telling other people how to perform cheats on this message board. The fewer people that know how to use a cheat, the better off we are.

If you've discovered a cheat and wish to report how its accomplished, then you should do so through proper customer service channels. Describing it publicly here doesn't do the community any good.

The bottom line is that the mods don't want to turn this board into an outlet for whiners and a place for cheaters to come to learn how to hone their "techniques". I do not think I'll ever understand how anyone can enjoy cheating in a multiplayer game but that's just me.

blac-kbird1254

05-16-2004, 07:42 PM

Ok i've been reading alot about people's complaints and personally I don't think splinter cell is really a muilty player game....I said this when I first saw somone suggest it on xbox.com's forms...and i'm still gonna have to stand by this. At first it was ok but its getting alittle old because of glitches. I also think it could have been better if it had some of the options like Ghost Recon where you could play through missions with friends....or maybe like Americas Army where you had to take pictures of verious illigal imported weapons.

XyZspineZyX

05-17-2004, 01:47 AM

Ok first thing everyone needs to understand, Us moderators, are not employed by UBI, we are private gamers such as yourselves, so the question of customer services has nothing to do with anything.

The forum is NOT the official complaints vehicle should you have any complaints, so that doesn't fly either, UBI have an actual customer services dept. and this IS NOT it.

As for trawling through pages of posts, compared to the extremely annoying state of the forum, a week or 2 ago, with repetitive annoying childish and boring posts, I don't see the problem. Now they are in one location and are far easier to maintain.

As I said if people don't like it then leave, also please read the post properly. Complain all you want, in this thread only. I'm sorry some of you don't like it, but already the forum, is better and more civil, and easier to read the posts not related to cheats.

An improvement has already taken place, and this is the way it will stay.

I said in my initial post, that any complaints about these rules will also be deleted, and so far I have let it slide (bar 1), but any more it will be deleted.

We are not being unfair, and if you don't like it, there are other forums out there that are unmoderated.

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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein 
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
- Sun-tzu

ZachariahG

05-17-2004, 02:25 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Ok first thing everyone needs to understand, Us moderators, are not employed by UBI, we are private gamers such as yourselves, so the question of customer services has nothing to do with anything.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you for clearing this up. That being the case, run your forums as you choose.

Thanks and good luck.

guitaraffa

05-18-2004, 09:01 AM

you moderators aren't employed by Ubi Soft??
Geez, that sucks for you. I hope you're makin money off of it somehow, otherwise I'd say screw it. But then, I think most message boards are waste of time in general and try not to spend more than 2 minutes on them a week. Other people apparently care what other people think and like to post stuff all day long.
Anyway, if you do this for free... well... um, good luck with all that.

XyZspineZyX

05-19-2004, 01:36 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by XBOX_PLAYBOY:
It's so funny to see a forum trying to stop people from discussing issues and problems with there product.

I guess you can only post on how happy and fine you are with everything!

This is just a kiss Azzzz fest!

Pocker up everyone or you will get booted!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

*sigh* what is the world coming to. Clearly literacy is becoming less and less important. Oh well if people don't want to read the post properly, I can't help their half interpretation.

Before you embark and a quest, please, pretty please make sure your sarcastic statments are justified.

Oh and Malf, if you read the post you will see why your post is gone. Xbox, normally I would delete yours too, but clearly you haven't read the post properly or you would realise how silly your statement is.

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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein 
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
- Sun-tzu

XyZspineZyX

05-19-2004, 04:08 AM

For everyone that seems to be making up their own posts in relation to this threads 1st post, and inventing rules that aren't even there. Yes Malf I deleted your post, and by all means complain, there is nothing wrong in this thread of these rules. Perhaps if you read the actual forum rules more carefully.

As posted in the original thread...

"From now on, any post that talks about how to cheat, glitche, or trick will be locked, anyone, telling people how to enable cheats or take advantage of a glitch, will receive one warning only, after which they will be banned."

Seems pretty clear to me, and many others, but some of you insist on "knowing everything." As I said these are the rules and anymore posts complaining about the RULES (not complaints about the game) will be deleted. This thread is to be used to let people know about cheats and glitches that you find, but not how to do them.

Simple really.

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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
- Albert Einstein 
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
- Sun-tzu

tsigo

05-19-2004, 12:51 PM

So PunkBuster doesn't actually... do anything? Other than kicking people for no reason?

Wish I'd thought of that - make something that doesn't work and then sell it to game companies.

zer0clan.phage

05-20-2004, 07:29 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by tsigo:
So PunkBuster doesn't actually... _do_ anything? Other than kicking people for no reason?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Aha! Time for me to crow a bit. I posted on this very topic in April, and was loudly harrangued for doing so by the "community" -cough- that reads this forum

As I stated then, PB does diddly squat. Never has, probably never will. It was run out of town in the CS community for JUST this reason. Nothing has changed, it's just that people are finally waking up and smelling the coffee.

KraXed112

05-20-2004, 03:54 PM

Why hasn't the spy frag nade been fixed in 1.2.. the problem was reported way before it was released?

psymon_oms

05-21-2004, 09:21 PM

the forums were split for console and guides etc, why not make a complaints one, it will be more noticeable than a simple thread. There people can complain about anything from spy with grenades to the latest developement of their in-grown toenail.

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Big Mac

05-24-2004, 07:40 AM

whoa!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

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HwFRemington

05-31-2004, 12:51 PM

I think that's enough from you. Not one post of any use or relation to PT from you. As per TOS
"...but also expressly reserves the right to monitor or supervise them in its sole discretion."
Since you clearly have no respect for the forum, rules or the moderators (me) that maintain these rules, and are intent on causing trouble you are no longer welcome on these boards. There are many people here, that enjoy the boards, and enjoy organised conversation, without the spreading of cheats and glitches, this is the way it will stay. These rules are in the benfit of the forum, and not your supposed view of how things are.

[This message was edited by SKULLS_Hawk on Mon May 31 2004 at 02:23 PM.]

[This message was edited by SKULLS_Hawk on Mon May 31 2004 at 02:32 PM.]

DRAKO_MDx

06-10-2004, 02:17 PM

OK since this is now the only place we can talk about Glitches or HACKS I need to mention something I saw today. I had a guy using modems in Warehouse when I had the map set at Neutralize. Hmmm... is this a Patch Glitch or a HACK. Let me know what you guys think. I have screenshot of it if you guys want to see although it would expose the person.

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PolloLoco

06-14-2004, 12:10 PM

Ok, I don't know if this is a glitch or a feature. On numerous occasions I will do a split jump, land on someones head and they won't go down. I tell the person "WTF, I landed on your head and you didn't go down"
He'll tell me "Yeah wierd, my vision did get blurry though" So my question is, is he cheating? is this a glitch? or is their a height restriction to knocking someone out and the splitjump isn't high enough. If there is a height restriction I think thats understandable but there should be an exception to the rule for splitjumps, otherwise there is almost no point in using them anymore.
If it is a glitch or a cheat I just want to make you guys aware that it happens so you can address it at your leisure.

P.S. I haven't attempted on other maps. The map this occured on was Deftech Belew, using the PC version of the game.

chigger_eater

06-14-2004, 08:32 PM

I've noticed a couple of glitches regarding the merc's torch and the spy's gun's laser: they show up on the opposite side of some walls from where the player is.

For example, when I'm spy in Labs in the vents in the laboratory area, I can see the light from the merc's torch on the inside of the vent when the merc standing in the room shines his light on the vent. This gives the merc away.

A common place the spy's laser is visible to a merc when it shouldn't be is in Warehouse. If the spy goes high onto the catwalk/conveyor belt/walkway/whatever and sits in the section with sides and pulls out his gun and points it on the inside of the wall, the dot is visible on the outside, thus giving the spy away.

I see these problems elsewhere occasionally, but these are 2 specific examples that I always notice.

Digital_Utopia

06-15-2004, 08:09 PM

Sorry, but IMO there are some games that make good multiplayer games, and there are some that don't.

Splinter Cell 2 is one of those that don't. and really, it has nothing to do with vulnerability to hacks and cheats...its just the game period.

Reasons why Unreal, Half-Life/CS and even Far Cry and the Rainbow 6 series make good multiplayer games is that the gamer has the ability to choose what tactics they want to use to win. You can either go full out commando style, use a stealth strategy..or even just hole-up and play sniper.

Sure, Splinter Cell gives you tons of attack methods, just as long as they're stealthy.

IMO a far better implementation of this game for online play is to combine RS3 and Splinter Cell in the Multiplayer arena...that way you can have the best of both worlds..

also IMO, what defines a game as great is to (in order)
1) have a killer single player experience
2) If you're going to include a Multiplayer version, make it at least as good as the Single Player experience, and if it can't be, just release it as Single Player and do yourself a favor and don't jump on the Multiplayer bandwagon.

especially if the multiplayer game has an adverse affect on those who just want to play the single player version. The whole way the front end acts is a bit backwards don't ya think? ok...we're going to simplify the users start menu, so instead of putting shortcuts to the single player app, and the multiplayer app, we'll clean up the user's start menu by just putting the shortcut to the front end..where the user can then, chose whether or not he/she wants to play the multiplayer, the single player, or even view the credits! so now the user can just sit back and wait a few seconds while the front end initializes, and then a few more while the front end closes, windows re-initializes the screen, and then the main program initializes!..and wait...here's the kicker!...we'll make the user have to go back to the front end to exit the game! even though the program actually closes, and then loads the front end again, we'll just pretend that it's a single part of the game!

I'm wondering if Ubi was smoking some seriously illegal drugs when they thought that this was the better way of doing things, compared to Rainbow Six 3?

splintergrief

06-15-2004, 11:55 PM

Heres one!!! I come home after 10 hours of hard work looking forward to going online and playing splintercell and i cant get in any servers cause punkbuster is not enabled so i uninstalled and reinstalled the game. I go to go online and i can see the punkbuster enabled again hooray BUT when i go to enter my cd key the second field has 5 spaces with a space between the 1st and second character rendering my cd key invalid now excuse my language but WTF is going on im at the end of my ropes with this game and ive only had it a week

Thefriend1

06-20-2004, 11:30 AM

lol skull i already sent an email to ubi... they need patches or else no one will play. They oviously dont give a care about their pc gamers. We need patches for punkbuster downgrading evertime you exit out of a server and then try to join another... we need graphic buggs fixed along with just openign up the exe. I didnt have a prob but a few others did. I ny opinion when i played the demo it was better than the game when you buy it....

Dispatchers79

06-21-2004, 11:12 PM

Personally I love the game! Yeah its got its problems just like all games, but learn to deal with them until they get fixed. I like punkbuster because it enables me to deal with the smacktard cheaters, hackers, expliot users, etc... I catch you cheating in my room and you are banned no questions asked. If you "just found that glitch" to bad so sad, you shouldn't have been looking in my room. I have been playing multiplayer games long enough to know when you accidently find and expliot and when you accidently on purpose find one.

I almost always host and love to play with the non-cheaters. My rooms always have D79 at the front so stop by anytime. Oh, no whinning nobody likes a whinner. If you catch me doing it, slap me around a bit, I've caught myself whinning a couple of times, hehe.

P.S. Main problem I had with the game was the single player was to easy and short.

Thefriend1

06-22-2004, 06:12 PM

lol this entire game is problum... wtf dude i have a cd burner and all my other games read it like a lagit game.. this pos disc they givbe us reads it like thye just used pos software and bured the cabs to a blank cd. Nothing professional done for pc gamers.

Icebreaker.007

07-02-2004, 08:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>
Reasons why Unreal, Half-Life/CS and even Far Cry and the Rainbow 6 series make good multiplayer games is that the gamer has the ability to choose what tactics they want to use to win. You can either go full out commando style, use a stealth strategy..or even just hole-up and play sniper<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

None of them has "stealth strategy". The only difference between "stealth" and "action" in those games is if you're crouching or standing up.

LoGiCaL_

07-03-2004, 01:37 PM

first off i cant believe u think unreal is a strategy game. i love when people say that it just cracks me the f up. secondly splinter cell PT is a good multi-player experience with great concept. see most peoples mistake is they go on there own as a spy or just dont know how to use team work and say oh this game shouldnt be multplayer.

get a partner worth playing with it totally changes the online multiplayer experience. as far as cheats and glitches go ur only cheating urself and most likely suck royal *** at the game. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

Noelemahc

07-07-2004, 02:27 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Icebreaker.007:
None of them has "stealth strategy". The only difference between "stealth" and "action" in those games is if you're crouching or standing up.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Apparently you didn't play R6 with the proper company. At times they allow for actually MORE stealth than PT does. Why?
Because if a careful someone jumps you from behind with a silenced gun and puts some holes in your back (IRL, that is) that is (semi-)true* stealth, because you did not see him and the only one you might complain about it to will be God or Satan (depending on where you end up... provided you're Christian and all). Because if someone puts a knife through your throat from behind (IRL yet again) that would also be (semi-)stealth*, for, once again, you did not see the other guy before he nabbed you.
Tell me, how is PT's multiplayer (with the spies and all) different from this? Not different at all, as you see - the same basic rules (rules like "it's pointless to look for a black cat in a dark room - especially if the cat isn't there" and "most of the time, if you can't see, hear or otherwise feel it, it just might not be there") apply.
And what is different (in your opinion) from those ideas in R6, for example? If I find a nice hiding spot in a badly-lit room and someone forgets to utilise their NVGs or heartbeat sensors (which isn't my fault, you know - and thus it doesn't make me a cheater or a camper, because those who DO know how to use those simple tools, use them effectively SOMEHOW do manage to drill me with their AKs before I can react) and then looks in awe at the bullets my silenced Mk23 sends flying at his/her face - that will not be much different from the way it is done in PT. The same applies to Far Cry, and, provided you are playing with mentally mature players, even CS**. The fact that in R6 and Far Cry you can also lean and go prone, it adds even more possibilities to hiding, stalking and just plain being stealthy.
Essentially, most sorts of behaviour fans of Splinter Cell and Metal Gear define as stealth (most of which actually IS stealth) are, after all, classifable as "camping" in the usual FPSs. At times it may be cheating (and/or exploiting a flaw in level design, but that, ultimately, was the fault of the level designer...***), but it doesn't have to be so always.
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* - because with true stealth, you will realise you're dead only by the time you arrive in the Purgatory. Or the city morgue, whichever comes first. What can I say, headshots do kill people in reality too.
** - why blame immaturity only on CS? Because only there when I stalk/shoot someone in the back I am called a "camper", regardless if I was actually hiding in a hard-to-see spot. Which brings me to another part of immaturity - if they KNOW there is a hiding spot there (they certainly do now :P), why not CHECK if someone's in there and hose him/her out? Why not try using smoke bombs for once? Now I don't know about you, but I haven't yet seen a CS player that will try to burn out a well-entrenched camper instead of whining and complaining about him. Most R6ers I've played with know their tricks of the trade and solve such problems with semi-ease (at least it looked so from the perspective of the camping me).
*** - try and find places which you would be able to easily defend and snipe/hunt from... IRL. Yes, places that would be nice to camp from would also suffice. Now tell me, what good is a game that boasts "close-to-reality level designs" when it doesn't have such places? Doesn't it detract from the reality? Doesn't the game, in doing so, replace reality (because nobody ever cares about designing school buildings that will be easy to defend and/or assault in case they become fields of battle, for example) with something unreal? Don't get me wrong, I don't wish to promote actual camping (though if you are good with your grenades - and this applies to ANY game - no camper is safe), I'm just saying that "stealth" is something more than jsut the ability to cling to walls and shimmy on ledges.
Or you call mercs that manage to hide from your spy gadgets and jump you from behind when you're not looking "campers"? I hope not.

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josephw903

07-14-2004, 03:18 AM

i have a uber thing i cant do rigth in schttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gift is when i bring up game it says like the pixel shader and stuff then it closes it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Noelemahc

07-14-2004, 03:36 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by josephw903:
it says like the pixel shader and stuff then it closes it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
It means your graphics card does not support pixel shaders. Get a new card, or you won't be able to play this game.

josephw903

07-14-2004, 05:55 AM

well is there any other option than that like a driver or sumthin http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Noelemahc

07-14-2004, 08:54 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by josephw903:
well is there any other option than that like a driver or sumthin http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Nothing working that anyone has heard of. Shorter: sorry, no.

lovergirl_bj

07-21-2004, 07:07 PM

what is a cd key??? i need to know so i can play splinter cellhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gifandora tomorrow online.

cloudy01

07-26-2004, 02:13 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by lovergirl_bj:
what is a cd key??? i need to know so i can play splinter cellhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gifandora tomorrow online.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

isnt it self explanitary? cd....key....

its the code that comes with the cd to enable it to work, it should be located in the box the game came with.

if you got it illegal somehow you MUST buy the real version in order to play it online

[This message was edited by cloudy01 on Mon July 26 2004 at 03:56 PM.]

TrackStarzZZ

08-02-2004, 05:10 AM

lol @ lovergirl
He/She must have never bought a game before! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif
if you have dowloaded the game u wont find a key!

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X_Plod3

08-04-2004, 02:03 PM

lol I just love ure sig track.. that guy is wayyyyyyyy lost.. dman man what a trick.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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S.a.S-Akbari

09-09-2004, 11:14 AM

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/1241.gif =D

"Nothing is Safe Anymore"

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Thanx To Dojo For The Sig http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Working On Next Video..

Amn-23

09-13-2004, 10:59 AM

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/1241.gif

omg that post saying thast that above post waas spam was actully spam itself...

therefore.. this is spam!

MADNESS http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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S.a.S-Akbari

09-14-2004, 07:19 AM

Smugged

09-26-2004, 04:26 PM

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif what an insperational speech (tear)

C.A.T.ops

10-15-2004, 09:59 PM

Nothing quite like a girl noob who's illegally downloading ripped software, but doesnt know it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

HarkoninVSC

10-16-2004, 10:48 PM

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C.A.T.ops

10-17-2004, 09:54 PM

Spamming is for spammers, no one else. I'm not a spammer, so I must not be spamming.

mcbigmac

10-17-2004, 10:21 PM

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HarkoninVSC

10-18-2004, 07:11 AM

I'm the anti-spammer, I spam all spam.

C.A.T.ops

10-18-2004, 07:41 AM

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Who voted him into office?

HarkoninVSC

10-18-2004, 03:33 PM

Your http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

C.A.T.ops

10-19-2004, 07:58 AM

My bad...

HarkoninVSC

10-19-2004, 11:19 AM

no your http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

C.A.T.ops

10-19-2004, 11:34 AM

Enough is enough. I'm done with this thread.

HarkoninVSC

10-19-2004, 11:43 AM

Hmm someone I remember seeing those same words before.

Colevant

11-10-2004, 07:46 AM

for the mods....
how can yall go about saying that ppl who complain about a glitch or a bug, will get deleted with no responce, and to deal with it.
This is the GAMES forum. ANYTHING to do with this game should get posted. and if it happens to be about bugs and cheats, then maybe that is the big rampant problem, and the devs should go about fixing it. If you mods are getting pissed about all the post, maybe yall should go talking to someone about getting it fixed. telling the customers to deal with it just shows how much ubi really cares....
also, THIS IS A FORUM. ofcourse ur going to get repeated post. thats kinda what happens to a game forum when the game gets little patches and no updates. ppl will run outta things to talk about and say, unless its about what is not getting fixed.
I think the mods need alittle attitude adjustment and to stop thinking of their posters as "moaners who should just deal with it." how about the mods become ,"listeners who read what we write, then try and get something done about it..."
i know i always come on alittle hard to ppl, but thats becuase ppl do stupid things, and the only real way for them to learn about it is through a good and long talk about how and what they did wrong. untill they know the error of their ways, they cannot change.
the "moaning" as yall put it will continue aslong as yall continue to ignore us and not fix a **** thing in this game.
im still wonderin if i deserve my money back for the wasted time in this game, cuase it sure seems like ubi is saying that we waisted our time with it.....

HarkoninVSC

11-10-2004, 08:28 AM

There are almost no glitches left except for the warehouse/deftech spawn glitching and the Krauser instawin left. Basically nothing that causes major problems, if they try to get in your spawn take them out and win the match.

Civrules

11-10-2004, 04:58 PM

Hi everyone,

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I've been looking at the demo of Pandora Tomorrow, and it does not work for me.
Each time it starts loading the game it crashes.

I have a good PC, got it last month.
Is this a known issue with the Pandora Tomorrow Demo? If so, can it be corrected?
I want to try it out so I can see if I should buy the game.
Thanks.

Phoen1x522

11-16-2004, 12:02 PM

Reading through this thread, listening to all the gripes of game quality, etc. I was reminded of a game I played online for a while. DeusEx. In short, grab a GEP gun and blow the s*** out of anything that moves. No skill required. In case your wondering, a GEP is like a rocket launcher. Launch an explosive device from a mile away and kill the two guys trying to shoot each other in the street.

Now, that game sucked for online play. Always got some idiot coming in with the GEP and killing everyone in site.

I've looked around online for SC but haven't played anyone yet. Tried to join a game but got blown off (consistently) Also read some posts about why people don't want to play against guys like me who've never played before. So, that being said, maybe I'll start a server for people to train on and see how that goes. Support the new guy.