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Foehammer-1
02-15-2007, 08:10 PM
Finally, my last goal of my cadet career is complete. Among being a sergeant, passing certain tests, winning something on the "skil at arms competition" (we got 2nd place in Ontario)and some other stuff, one of the goals was to get a distinguished marksman qualification. And here we are, today I was given one. That definitely made my day http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/Foehammer88/Marksman-1.jpg

WilhelmSchulz.
02-15-2007, 08:19 PM
CONGRATS!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

AO1_AW_SW_USN
02-15-2007, 08:24 PM
Just remember: You don't PULL the trigger... you SQUEEZE the trigger! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

3.JG51_Molders
02-16-2007, 07:08 AM
Cadets eh ? Royal Canadian Army Cadets ? I was in the Royal Canadian Air Cadets for seven years, made it up to Sergeant and tried three times for my flight licenese but just didn't make it.

klcarroll
02-16-2007, 07:20 AM
What an amazing patch!

Even though it's embroidery, it is very plain that the crossed rifles are SMLEs!!!

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Foehammer-1
02-16-2007, 08:03 AM
Okay, it's not THAT plain, the rifles and the crown are in golden-colourded thread...

@ AO1_AW_SW_USN, I know that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif How do i know? cause I got the mere marksman level one 3 years ago, because i was jerking the trigger http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

@ JG51_Molders.... That's a shame that you didn't get yours. A friend of mine got his this past summer, first or second try. And no, I will not call you pigeon, but just this time around http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

klcarroll
02-16-2007, 08:59 AM
Aw come on!..........Look at that profile!

How could it be anything other than a "Smiley"???

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klcarroll
02-16-2007, 09:08 AM
BTW; ........I hope they're giving you something more modern to qualify with!

(Although I will confess to having spent many pleasant hours "plinking" with affordable surplus Enfields, and the dirt cheap surplus ammo that used to be available!)

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Foehammer-1
02-16-2007, 01:39 PM
Hah, I wish they'd let us use Leenfields to do this (we use them verry sparingly), even tho the rifles on the badge are indeed Leenfields. You do NOT want to know what we shoot on a regular basis http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Kaleun1961
02-16-2007, 01:51 PM
Knowing Canadian stinginess when it comes to military equipment, I'd guess you are using .22's?

Foehammer-1
02-16-2007, 01:58 PM
Ha hahahaha, you are Almost right. We do use those occasionally if we go to the range God knows where. But, and I anticipate loud laughter from whoever reads this, to get the badges we use the stupid air-powered pellet guns http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Kaleun1961
02-16-2007, 02:16 PM
I promise not to laugh; as a Canuck I know the ridiculous conditions that the underfunded cadets have to get by with. Are those air rifles matched on the range to simulate longer distances? I remember when I was in the militia, on occasion we would fire our FN's [.308 or 7.62mm] with a .22 insert inside the rifle on an indoor range of limited distance. This would allow us to simulate longer range fire in a limited range under the armoury. When we went to Niagara-on-the-Lake or CFB Borden we would use the regular 7.62 rounds on a normal sized firing range.

klcarroll
02-16-2007, 02:39 PM
Wow! .......It's kinda sobering to realize that I have probably "burned" 100 times as much 7.62 for recreational purposes as some other governments use to train their service personel!

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Kaleun1961
02-16-2007, 02:44 PM
We only got so much time on the ranges. I got qualified as a rifleman, but nothing spectacular. It seemed just as you were getting into your groove it was time to pack up and go home.

HeibgesU999
02-16-2007, 03:32 PM
Congrats!

BRASS

breath
release
aim
squeeze
shoot

this is, of course, the more PC version. The shoot part is a little redundant.

We used to go up to Gagetown, New Brunswick and train with the Canadian Army. What a great bunch of folks!

Foehammer-1
02-16-2007, 06:11 PM
When we go to the Base Borden range (Blackdown cadet training center, actually) we shoot the .22's at a small version of a real range. But the standard distance for the pellet rifles is 10 meters, after which it starts to deviate considerbaly. I wish I could get my hands on a Leenfield 303 (so what if its 62 years old), some ammo to burn and a range all to myselfhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif But oh well, i have a shooting competition tomorrow (saturday), using the darned pellet guns

AO1_AW_SW_USN
02-16-2007, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by klcarroll:
BTW; ........I hope they're giving you something more modern to qualify with!

(Although I will confess to having spent many pleasant hours "plinking" with affordable surplus Enfields, and the dirt cheap surplus ammo that used to be available!)

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Or how about someting like this:

M82A1 SASR "Light Fifty" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M82_Barrett_rifle)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/M82rifle.jpg/800px-M82rifle.jpg

I had the privledge to fire this fine rifle... and the recoil was very impressive!

Kaleun1961
02-16-2007, 08:48 PM
Corporal Rob Furlong of the Canadian Army unofficially holds the record for longest confirmed sniper kill in combat. Using a .50 sniper rifle, he took down a Taliban in Afghanistan from the distance of 2,430 metres. The shot hit him in the torso, after a flight of approximately four seconds. Another Canadian sniper got a kill at 2,310 metres, a few days before the shot by Furlong. Two record kills with a few days of each other. The previous record was 2,250 metres, set by Marine Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock during the Viet Nam war. In typical Canadian fashion, the official record went to another member of his unit, but everybody in the know acknowledges that Furlong actually took the shot, including the guy who was mistakenly credited.

I got this information from the May 15th, 2006 edition of Macleans Magazine. I've not heard of anybody else matching that record since then. Amazing markmanship.

klcarroll
02-16-2007, 10:06 PM
... and the recoil was very impressive!

Yeah, .......I've fired a civilian version of the Barrett, and the recoil will definitely keep you from dozing off! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

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wm4668
02-17-2007, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by klcarroll:
Wow! .......It's kinda sobering to realize that I have probably "burned" 100 times as much 7.62 for recreational purposes as some other governments use to train their service personel!

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Damn right - when I joined the RAF in 1976 my range firing was restricted to approx 60 rounds in IRT, with refresher training annually of 30 rounds. Even on a front line unit like Gutersloh (Harrier Force, 1985-88), I only got to fire 60 rounds annually, due to being given training on the LMG (basically a rebored Bren @ 7.62 mm - lovely weapon). Expended quite a few blanks while out in the field though......

RedTerex
02-17-2007, 07:31 AM
Congrats on getting the Marksman patch !

Kaleun1961
02-17-2007, 08:38 PM
When I was out in the field on training that required firing blanks, I tried as much as possible to avoid firing them, due to the heavy carboning up of the rifle. One ambush we were on I jacked all the rounds into the bushes I was hiding behind as the other guys were firing. The guy next to me wondered why I was ejecting all my rounds until I told him, whereupon he did the same. Back at the barracks all I had to do was pretend to look busy cleaning my rifle. However, whenever I got to use live ammo the cleanup was worth it.

Foehammer-1
02-18-2007, 01:06 PM
Hahaha, Kaleun! Now THAT is a good example of a soldier's thinking http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifCongrats. By the way, can you solve this problem? Only a soldier's mind can, i think. You are a drinker, but no alcohol is around. You are north of the Arctic circle, supplies are delivered by airplanes, which use gasoline with alcohol dissolved to prevent freezing. How would you find drinkable alcohol without the whole oil-refinery distillation process? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif PS it can be easily solved

Celeon999
02-18-2007, 01:36 PM
Celeon was firing different stuff..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


Boom ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-mL561DJB4&NR)

Another Boom ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbV_-b8wjxY&mode=related&search=)

Foehammer-1
02-18-2007, 02:23 PM
Very nice vid's Celeon. By the way, are you gonna take a crack on my little puzzle in the above post?

Celeon999
02-18-2007, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by Foehammer-1:
Very nice vid's Celeon. By the way, are you gonna take a crack on my little puzzle in the above post?


Hmmmm i would try to heat some kerosene up (38 degrees Celsius ? ) ... i believe it vaporizes at a lower temperature than the alcohol so i think the pure alcohol would remain when i dont exceed a certain temperature .. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Then i get me some ice to melt and voila ! I mix it with the pure alcohol to bring it down to maybe 40% and the party can begin http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Just a thought http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Foehammer-1
02-18-2007, 07:04 PM
I said, WITHOUT using the distillation process http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif This is a true story, the guy separated the two liquids using only what was on the base, which was not a lot. And he didn't use distillation or evaporation. C'mon guys, think! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Messervy
02-18-2007, 10:30 PM
Water.

Alcohol dilutes in water while gasoline floats on the surface and can be scooped out?

klcarroll
02-19-2007, 08:31 AM
Water.

Alcohol dilutes in water while gasoline floats on the surface and can be scooped out?

I suspect that this is probably on the right track; ....but regardless, PLEASE treat this as an academic discussion ONLY.

Any ethanol (the drinkable stuff) that is used as a fuel additive has almost certainly had methanol (the stuff that kills you) added to it to "denature" it. This is done so that the manufacturer doesn't have to pay the taxes that would be due on a drinkable product: ...And NO, you will not be able to separate the methanol from the ethanol.

Gasoline, aside from being toxic itself, contains dozens of toxic trace elements that are slightly soluble in water or ethanol: .....so any long term consumption of any such "separated" alcohol would result in you poisoning yourself.

You'd be much better off stealing ten pounds of sugar and some baker's yeast from the kitchen, and doing it right! Give me access to those basics, and a few very simple pieces hardware, (copper tubing and an old pressure cooker) and in about eight days, I'll hand you a gallon of the best 100 proof, absolutely safe, "shine" you ever had the pleasure to drink! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Foehammer-1
02-19-2007, 08:49 AM
Ding Ding! Messervy is a winner! The guy did indeed put water in a bucket of this modified gasoline, alcohol dissolved, and gasoline floated to the surface. He then inserted a long straw down to the bottom and drank the bottom parthttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I guess there was not enough methanol there to make him go blind, or kill him, cause he lived long enough to be kicked out of the armed forces for doing so. I am not sure however what happened to him afterwards....

@ klcarroll, heck, you try doing that in the barracks beyond the Arctic Circle http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Trust me, I know that the smell of the process is quite distinct, and is bound to bring the wrath of base commander down on the unsuspecting brewer like thunder from clear skies http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif But otherwise, you are right. And maybe, just maybe, the base commander didn't have any of the stuff either, so he might be appreciative http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

klcarroll
02-19-2007, 09:02 AM
Actually, when fermenting a basic "sugar wash" (white sugar, yeast, and a little bit of lemon juice for the right ph and a few trace nutrients needed by the yeast), the resulting smell is very faint: .....and it can be completely eliminated with a little activated carbon canister on your CO2 vent.

Don't ask me how I know this.

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Celeon999
02-19-2007, 09:10 AM
so any long term consumption of any such "separated" alcohol would result in you poisoning yourself.


The same happens with drinking clean alcohol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Studies show that extremely low temperatures in combination with alcohol and boredom can make soldiers do strange unexplainable things....

Just like these german soldiers on a frozen lake in Norway show... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif


Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaKFDfGgV1g)

klcarroll
02-19-2007, 09:28 AM
Hmmm.........

Given the choice between drinking and curling, I know what my inclination would be! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

(.....Unless, of course, you could do both at the same time, indoors where it's warm!)

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