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James_Westfall
01-23-2006, 09:25 PM
I was actually shocked when I saw that Havoc's post was closed. Whoever is in charge of this nonsense (rhoulette, m4, smith)...you just made the community angrier. Good thing we have these forums, you know, just in case we want to post something and have it closed on us b/c the admin's get nervous everytime we speak. I'm glad that we have that effect on you. Thanks for the compliment, ****ers.

weezer0w0
01-23-2006, 09:31 PM
yeah its just straight up surprising that UBI would be unwilling to hear our thoughts, opinions, and desires regarding a product of theirs. what's even more surprising is that a thread discussing the idea of modding another game engine to mirror splinter cell versus and be freely distributed is praised and celebrated even though it could potentially cut into UBI's profits and may very well violate copy protection laws.

go figure. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif
-g

CovertKi11
01-23-2006, 09:32 PM
What a way to calm everyone down. No official comment, just lock the thread. Just lock it, we'll forget about it. I'm still planning to send that email.

Not a million, but I'm going to send one, and I hope everyone else does likewise.

Total.Ck_
01-23-2006, 09:32 PM
I am truly sickened. I really can't even expand on that right now because I'm so angry that Ubi fights us instead of supporting us. We're going to be paying just like the xbox 360 users are. I've got 50 bucks riding on this game, you guys better deliver.

Havoconline
01-23-2006, 09:35 PM
<span class="ev_code_RED"> we're all going to send a single email.

goto our forums to support the cause:

www.SCusualsuspects.com (http://www.SCusualsuspects.com) </span>

CovertKi11
01-23-2006, 09:37 PM
I was planning on buying the game, but this is amazing. This really brings customer service and all that to a new height (Meet sarcasm, folks). I can't believe Ubi is so unwilling to let us voice our opinions that they'd just shut down Havoc's topic instead of just telling the PC community whether SvM (Not SvU, Upsilon Force is the gayest name going for a squad these days, and isn't it spelled Epsilon anyway?) will be included in PC or not.

Regardless of whether SvM is included or not, Ubi, you may have very well lost a potential customer (I know one sale means nothing to Ubi, but that's the direction I'm sliding right now).

I don't have a lot of confidence. Look at Co-Op. Look at the giant thread full of patch ideas for SvM. We don't have the greatest history of being supported even when we make our voices repeatedly heard.


EDIT - I'll bet this thread is an hour away from lockdown.

Total.Ck_
01-23-2006, 09:54 PM
I've honestly never seen a community more involved in their game. We fish out all the bugs (that never get fixed), find all of the balance issues and provide many possible fixes (which are never implemented), and make extra content for the game (of which little is certified or supported by ubi). You don't see that kind of dedication on the Xbox, and you never will.

So then why does Ubi turn around and give the PC users the finger?

If you look at the PC forums it's easy to tell that SvM is the focus of 95% of the active posters. A simple glance through the separate forums gives a very clear idea what each wants. Console users want their quick single player fix and PC players want their well-developed, highly involved multiplayer game, even if it takes longer.

It was really sickening watching the interview that said that we wanted spy vs. spy. Don't lie to our faces and tell us what we want. Who are you trying to fool?

Ubi has to remember that they have not only the buyers of this game on the horizon, but also the buyers of future Ubi games. I know I certainly won't be buying anymore products from a company that disregards me. And anyone with an ounce of integrity will do the same.

You can't live without us and you better not forget that.

James_Westfall
01-23-2006, 10:05 PM
You can't live without us and you better not forget that.

QFE!!!!

what if we made a harcore stand to just not buy the game?? How about the loss there. Instead, we will just mkae our own game, like Mic and his staff are doing. Especially if UBI supports it, then wow. Seriously...you people are ****in amazing

Preacher-US
01-23-2006, 10:07 PM
You can't live without us and you better not forget that.


well put.

I urge everyone reading this to click on the forum link that havoc posted above for further orginization.

weezer0w0
01-23-2006, 10:07 PM
well said total.


It was really sickening watching the interview that said that we wanted spy vs. spy. Don't lie to our faces and tell us what we want. Who are you trying to fool?

man was that riddiculous. it was pretty much like they had a random guy on the street adlibbing as someone behind the camera scribbled some que cards for him to read. players kill all the mercs so they can play just as spy? did that guy even understand the basic fundamentals about SvM?
-g

James_Westfall
01-23-2006, 10:34 PM
What's most amusing about this issue is that they tried to talk us down. Most of the community listened, and we were actually talking it over in a civilized manner. Going back and forth w/ alternatives and such. Then the topic gets closed. You can ****in count on the e-mails now dumb ****s

CovertKi11
01-23-2006, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by James_Westfall:
What's most amusing about this issue is that they tried to talk us down. Most of the community listened, and we were actually talking it over in a civilized manner. Going back and forth w/ alternatives and such. Then the topic gets closed. You can ****in count on the e-mails now dumb ****s That was the amusing part. They tried to stop the emails not by responding to us, but by shutting down our thread. Sounds like a bulletproof plan to me. That's like 12 year old logic there. Stop everyone from discussing the plan and it will just go away.

Preacher-US
01-23-2006, 11:36 PM
Stop everyone from discussing the plan and it will just go away.


Well its not a bad plan,on their behalf, to shut us up. If we cant discuss it anymore, then what are the chances of being able to do anything about it? They think if they cut off the head(ie voice) the body will die with it. Well we're still doing this and we still need your help.

Thats why we need more ppl to sign up on the -US forum to discuss this. Everyones opinions, and voices will be heard.

Power trips not included.

PLEASE come voice your opinions on what the best course of action is. If you play splinter cell spy verses merc, and would like to continue to do so in the next installment of the series, then this affects YOU.


SCusualsuspects.com

weezer0w0
01-24-2006, 12:17 AM
i don't think the forum mods, or ubisoft themselves, are dumb enough to think that we don't have ways of communicating outside of the ubi forums. the reason why it was ever even posted on the ubi forums was to reach a wide variety of players, and give ubi advance notice of our intentions, and we've already done both of those. at this point its just a slap in the face.

anyway here is a direct link to the thread on our clan forums where this discussion is being continued:

http://fid.11.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=242

all are welcome to come and particpate and provide thoughts as well as additional information.
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NoX_Cptobvious
01-24-2006, 01:10 AM
Wow even some of the worst developer teams I can think of like Star Wars Galaxies, even doesn't delete posts of what people have to say, they may not listen to them most of the time but they don't delete them. But you know maybe it was one mods stupid decision and not Ubisoft who was behind it, still doesn't change the fact anyways I guess.

Splinterex
01-24-2006, 02:53 AM
U*****BI ****** *****

SITHDUKE
01-24-2006, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by NoX_Cptobvious:
Wow even some of the worst developer teams I can think of like Star Wars Galaxies, even doesn't delete posts of what people have to say, they may not listen to them most of the time but they don't delete them. But you know maybe it was one mods stupid decision and not Ubisoft who was behind it, still doesn't change the fact anyways I guess.

lol, yeah they do.

Vth_F_Smith_
01-24-2006, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by NoX_Cptobvious:
Wow even some of the worst developer teams I can think of like Star Wars Galaxies, even doesn't delete posts of what people have to say, they may not listen to them most of the time but they don't delete them. But you know maybe it was one mods stupid decision and not Ubisoft who was behind it, still doesn't change the fact anyways I guess. I don't think the Thread has been deleted by anyone or else I can even see a deleted Thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3651075192/m/3471096104/r/6311016204#6311016204) (and I'm pretty sure I can't)! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

BTW:

I'm allergic to insults, so I'd appreciate it if you'd stop using them and choose a more respectfull way to communicate with others! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

scworld
01-24-2006, 05:35 AM
*reads topic title, looks at own title, and looks at self*
Hey, I am still here! Don't write me off just yet, boy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
It's not my time yet. Muahhahaah

Total.Ck_
01-24-2006, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
I don't think the Thread has been deleted by anyone or else I can even see a deleted Thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3651075192/m/3471096104/r/6311016204#6311016204) (and I'm pretty sure I can't)! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

BTW:

I'm allergic to insults, so I'd appreciate it if you'd stop using them and choose a more respectfull way to communicate with others! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif That has to be the absolute worst rationalization I've ever heard. The thread is closed, it might as well be deleted.

I'd also like you to show me what was violated in the ToU that warrented closing the thread.

Vth_F_Smith_
01-24-2006, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Total.Ck_:
The thread is closed, it might as well be deleted. Let's see the last Posting is from Raakile91 dated to Tue January 24 2006 05:14 and I don't see a lock icon. Hmm...seems as if it isn't locked at all! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SITHDUKE
01-24-2006, 08:21 AM
It was a day ago ;-)

MR.Mic
01-24-2006, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by SITHDUKE:
It was a day ago ;-)

Edit your statement, or prepare to be banned.
The image of mods being infallable must be upheld. Anything stating otherwise is blasphemy.

Raakile91
01-24-2006, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Vth_F_Smith_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Total.Ck_:
The thread is closed, it might as well be deleted. Let's see the last Posting is from Raakile91 dated to Tue January 24 2006 05:14 and I don't see a lock icon. Hmm...seems as if it isn't locked at all! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Moahahaa, I gut t3h ├╝ber h4x soh 1 kann p0sT to dah lokkeD Thardz11!

SITHDUKE
01-24-2006, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by SITHDUKE:
It was NOT a day ago ;-)

Fixed! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Jason-Alaska
01-25-2006, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by MR.Mic:
The image of mods being infallable must be upheld. Anything stating otherwise is blasphemy.

QFE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

lochang19
01-25-2006, 07:03 PM
Everyone add this to your sigs!

SPY VS. SPY MEANS I DON'T BUY!

CovertKi11
01-25-2006, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by lochang19:
Everyone add this to your sigs!

SPY VS. SPY MEANS I DON'T BUY! That sounds really cheesy, but whatever, I'll just word it slightly differently.

EDIT- Actually, screw it, who cares if it sounds cheesy. I'll use the same format.

lochang19
01-25-2006, 07:07 PM
I like cheese!

Noisewater-US
01-25-2006, 07:12 PM
done and done, but not for long if i don't see a trend. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Chief-ubi.com
01-25-2006, 07:19 PM
SPY VS. SPY MEANS I DON'T BUY!

Let me put this nicely, if it's only SPY VS. SPY that means I don't buy!
yep , and ubi should give us [SvM] [SvS] [COOP online] [Bot] modes ,aha.

lochang19
01-25-2006, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Noisewater-US:
done and done, but not for long if i don't see a trend. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Hey, Spekkio did it, and we all know when he's not setting trends, he's busy BEING the trend.

vega13
01-26-2006, 12:02 PM
the slogan is genius i must say, cheerio!