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kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 02:55 PM
http://www.ign.com/videos/2011...ns-ezios-secret-ways (http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/09/22/assassins-creed-revelations-ezios-secret-ways)

They just released a ton of awesome videos.

jeremytwoface
09-22-2011, 02:58 PM
Ha... You and I posted something at the same time....


Did you see the one with Desmond in the black room talking to someone?? Possibly Subject 16?

Just throwing it out there..

NewBlade200
09-22-2011, 03:04 PM
Dear god, what happened to Desmond's face?!

kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by jeremytwoface:
Ha... You and I posted something at the same time....


Did you see the one with Desmond in the black room talking to someone?? Possibly Subject 16?

Just throwing it out there..

Yeah it's gotta be 16. His clothes look very similar to the ones that are kind of blurry in the Encyclopedia. I'm so excited!!! just when I was losing hope http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ION_05
09-22-2011, 03:07 PM
Ya he looks like niko belic now.

rileypoole1234
09-22-2011, 03:07 PM
Blimey this game is going to be bloody amazing.

NBST
09-22-2011, 03:10 PM
Oh, god, I Alt+F4-ed ACB Multiplayer as soon as I saw this thread.

Can't wait to see the videos!!!!! *squeal* http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

luckyto
09-22-2011, 03:16 PM
WOOT!

twenty_glyphs
09-22-2011, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by NewBlade200:
Dear god, what happened to Desmond's face?!

My sentiments exactly. We've seen three versions of his face in Revelations now -- the E3 teaser trailer of Desmond (likely the same Brotherhood model), the Gamescom trailer with a glimpse of Desmond at the end, and now this one. Can we just get his face back to a recognizable Desmond? Brotherhood was the best face yet for him.

This is almost definitely Subject 16, but his voice does not sound like the voice from the last two games. Could be because he's confident and not crazy right now, or it could be a different actor altogether. Kind of disappointing if that's the case. Is consistency in characters' voices and faces too much to ask for?

Otherwise, these are awesome and have me excited. Thanks so much for posting the link.

kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 03:19 PM
I think the facial changes must have something to do with the fact that he is kind of trapped in black room and his and older Ezio's faces are mixing. His face looks older. I could be wrong though, just an idea.

NBST
09-22-2011, 03:20 PM
Yeah, Desmond's face does look horrible.

Also, kind of odd how much Ezio has aged for just a few years.

Otherwise, neat videos. Kinda short. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LightRey
09-22-2011, 03:22 PM
Oh my god that's S16.

itsamea-mario
09-22-2011, 03:23 PM
My god, that face, it's just so... Horrendous!
Ezio aswell( though that's understandable)
Altair seems to be the best looking of the lot.
Also if that's 16 then that's one hell if a friggin spoiler in my opinion.

LightRey
09-22-2011, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
My god, that face, it's just so... Horrendous!
Ezio aswell( though that's understandable)
Altair seems to be the best looking of the lot.
Also if that's 16 then that's one hell if a friggin spoiler in my opinion.
Indeed, but who else could it be?

dex3108
09-22-2011, 03:26 PM
It is great but Ubisoft please put back old Desmond this model is terrible. I like what i saw this will be great game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

NewBlade200
09-22-2011, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NewBlade200:
Dear god, what happened to Desmond's face?!

My sentiments exactly. We've seen three versions of his face in Revelations now -- the E3 teaser trailer of Desmond (likely the same Brotherhood model), the Gamescom trailer with a glimpse of Desmond at the end, and now this one. Can we just get his face back to a recognizable Desmond? Brotherhood was the best face yet for him.

This is almost definitely Subject 16, but his voice does not sound like the voice from the last two games. Could be because he's confident and not crazy right now, or it could be a different actor altogether. Kind of disappointing if that's the case. Is consistency in characters' voices and faces too much to ask for?

Otherwise, these are awesome and have me excited. Thanks so much for posting the link. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It's probably 16. If he's actually talking to Des this early in the game then there may be more conversations between them so his voice actor may have changed to avoid confusion.

NBST
09-22-2011, 03:32 PM
Actually, the theory that Desmond changes faces throughout the game seems pretty viable. He sort of looks like an old Ezio in these videos (with the droopy cheeks and monkey lips) and kind of like Altair in the Gamescom trailer (mustache, intimidating look). Also, he looked normal in Desmond's Story trailer.

LightRey
09-22-2011, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by NBST:
Actually, the theory that Desmond changes faces throughout the game seems pretty viable. He sort of looks like an old Ezio in these videos (with the droopy cheeks and monkey lips) and kind of like Altair in the Gamescom trailer (mustache, intimidating look). Also, he looked normal in Desmond's Story trailer.
That could be it. Maybe we'll actually see his appearance change bit by bit throughout the game.

DarthEzio55
09-22-2011, 03:35 PM
First it was altairs face, i was like ok i could live with that,
Then, it was Ezio's i didn't like it , but now i accept it, But now desmond. I really hope they atleast change desmond back to his "normal" face. Like the one in desmond's story trailer.

Jexx21
09-22-2011, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by NBST:
Actually, the theory that Desmond changes faces throughout the game seems pretty viable. He sort of looks like an old Ezio in these videos (with the droopy cheeks and monkey lips) and kind of like Altair in the Gamescom trailer (mustache, intimidating look). Also, he looked normal in Desmond's Story trailer.

That sounds extremely plausible, and exactly what it sounds like the video is telling us.

"That way, the animus can seperate Desmond from Ezio, and Altiar, and you can return home."

NewBlade200
09-22-2011, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by NBST:
Actually, the theory that Desmond changes faces throughout the game seems pretty viable. He sort of looks like an old Ezio in these videos (with the droopy cheeks and monkey lips) and kind of like Altair in the Gamescom trailer (mustache, intimidating look). Also, he looked normal in Desmond's Story trailer. It would be interesting to see Des change as the animus draws funny pictures in his head, and when the line between Des and his ancestors gets drawn he returns to his ACB or AC face.

Or maybe they failed when making his face, and when we get out of the animus they double fail and Lucy looks like a fish.

luckyto
09-22-2011, 03:51 PM
The detail is much higher. New Desmond may grow on me. Old Ezio did, and I definitely like Altair's new voice.

Sick_one12
09-22-2011, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by NBST:
Actually, the theory that Desmond changes faces throughout the game seems pretty viable. He sort of looks like an old Ezio in these videos (with the droopy cheeks and monkey lips) and kind of like Altair in the Gamescom trailer (mustache, intimidating look). Also, he looked normal in Desmond's Story trailer.

Thats a pretty cool idea http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifBut actually i think ubi just tried to change Desmonds face for the better and failed big time!He looks nothing like beforehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gifi can already see the forum starting a petition to change desmonds face back to his from ACBhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gifwell....i would sign it,he just looks awful now!

Jexx21
09-22-2011, 03:58 PM
The character details in the memories look better, but Desmond's hoodie fails.

Sick_one12
09-22-2011, 04:06 PM
http://s7.directupload.net/images/110923/rtfw9nki.jpg

Dear Lord!!!!Please Ubi this cant be true http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
Please guys.....just look at him,thats not our Dezzy

Artemis88
09-22-2011, 04:08 PM
All I can say is holy cow!!

Looks like Desmond is on an island when we see him washed ashore. Subject 16 does seem a little more tame and less manic than when we heard him in AC:B.

By the looks of things, we get to see Sofia in one of the related video's IGN posted up. Seems a little different to what she looks like in the Embers trailers.

kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 04:14 PM
Just like someone else said, Desmond looks totally normal in the teaser trailer with him in it. He clearly will not look like this older version throughout the entire game. I really think it's just the animus black room mixing his facial features with Ezio's.

http://images.wikia.com/assassinscreed/images/3/32/ACR_Desmond_Trailer_9.JPG

naran6142
09-22-2011, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
Just like someone else said, Desmond looks totally normal in the teaser trailer with him in it. He clearly will not look like this older version throughout the entire game. I really think it's just the animus black room mixing his facial features with Ezio's.

http://images.wikia.com/assassinscreed/images/3/32/ACR_Desmond_Trailer_9.JPG

good point

and i agree with u on the black room changing desmonds face, cuz he does look more older like ezio.

NewBlade200
09-22-2011, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
Just like someone else said, Desmond looks totally normal in the teaser trailer with him in it. He clearly will not look like this older version throughout the entire game. I really think it's just the animus black room mixing his facial features with Ezio's.

http://images.wikia.com/assassinscreed/images/3/32/ACR_Desmond_Trailer_9.JPG That appears to be using the same graphics and facial animations as ACB. There appears to be more detail in the new face compared to the one in the other Des trailer. It was probably made before they were finished the graphics engine.

Will_Lucky
09-22-2011, 04:32 PM
Were I to take a guess the more he experiences the memories of Ezio and Altair the more he becomes like them. He isn't exactly Desmond anymore, he is all three physiologically and the animus is attempting to project this.

And in regards to 16, it might not be 16 for all we know its a projection of his subconscious it could be a family member, or someone close to him before Assassins Creed. We don't know how the Black Room works it might dynamically change things based on his subconscious.

SupremeCaptain
09-22-2011, 04:41 PM
Maybe the Animus is giving Desmond a split personality, or is changing him into a different person, to add to his insanity.

dxsxhxcx
09-22-2011, 04:45 PM
who in hell is the person who thought that show us the character we were trying to figure out who it was for 3 games in a simple trailer would be a good idea?!

BK-110
09-22-2011, 04:45 PM
Desmond doesn't look much different. He kind of looks like a mix between the AC1 version and the AC2/Brotherhood version, with added detail and a beard. But wow, these clips sure are spoilerific (particularly Subject 16...).

"Who are you, messere?"
"Only the most interesting man in your life."

Good to see Ezio flirt again! xD
And I sure do like the added detail to the faces.

LukewarmPoptart
09-22-2011, 04:50 PM
I hardly call that gameplay

NewBlade200
09-22-2011, 04:50 PM
@BK-110: There was a serious lack of Ezio's charm in ACB. Good to see him go for the girls again. ACB felt like a huge sword fight.

I've wondered this for a bit, but how is it that your quote is censored when it comes from the games?

kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 04:53 PM
"Who are you, messere?"
"Only the most interesting man in your life."

Good to see Ezio flirt again! xD
And I sure do like the added detail to the faces.

I'm totally using this next time I get the opportunity. lol

Moultonborough
09-22-2011, 04:55 PM
Best news all day. Hopefully when their turn comes up it will be a full trailer and not just a few seconds of each.

kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 05:17 PM
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/attentaeter85/assassins-creed-revelations-20110922032906990.jpg

This doesn't help my theory about the animus though.

albertwesker22
09-22-2011, 05:23 PM
So Lucy is dead?

BK-110
09-22-2011, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by NewBlade200:
@BK-110: There was a serious lack of Ezio's charm in ACB. Good to see him go for the girls again. ACB felt like a huge sword fight.

I've wondered this for a bit, but how is it that your quote is censored when it comes from the games?

Because it's a "bad word", I guess; it's just the automatic censoring system. Still don't get why they try to make the forum for a mature game family friendly...

DarthEzio55
09-22-2011, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/attentaeter85/assassins-creed-revelations-20110922032906990.jpg

This doesn't help my theory about the animus though.

so does that picture indicate, that face of desmond, is the face they're using? I seriously hope not.

kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
So Lucy is dead?

I don't think so, I actually think the guy at IGN wrote this up because he made a mistake on Ezio's bio saying that Ezio's little sister was killed with their father which we all know isn't the case. Someone called him out on it and he said "d'oh thanks I'll fix that" so it must not have been written by Ubisoft but by someone at IGN.

albertwesker22
09-22-2011, 05:31 PM
Desmond looks like a pasty faced Scotsman.

I hope this is not the final model.

dxsxhxcx
09-22-2011, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/attentaeter85/assassins-creed-revelations-20110922032906990.jpg

This doesn't help my theory about the animus though.

could you please post the link to this picture at the IGN website?!

about his "new" face, I liked it but his voice was a little strange in the trailer where he speak with S16... :P

NBST
09-22-2011, 05:38 PM
ACB:
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/3/30014/1636747-desmond_miles.jpg

ACR:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/attentaeter85/assassins-creed-revelations-20110922032906990.jpg

Yeah... let's hope he doesn't stay that way...

matheus_737
09-22-2011, 05:39 PM
I HATE Desmond's face looks like Niko from GTA 4

Altair's face is good, Ezio too, but the voice of altair in AC1 is very better than ACR.

enought of critics the GAME IS AWESOME, THE STORY ALL PERFECT FOR MY THIS GAME WILL SURPRISES ALL OF US MORE THAN WE EXPECT !!!!!!!!!

Will_Lucky
09-22-2011, 05:39 PM
Seriously, that can't be the final model. His face looks like he has aged 20 years he looks more like Ezio than ever.

albertwesker22
09-22-2011, 05:42 PM
In the Brotherhood screenshots for Desmond, he had an aged face and a beard just like Ezio, but it was changed back to normal in the final product. The same will probably happen here.

dxsxhxcx
09-22-2011, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by NBST:
ACB:
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/3/30014/1636747-desmond_miles.jpg

ACR:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/attentaeter85/assassins-creed-revelations-20110922032906990.jpg

Yeah... let's hope he doesn't stay that way...


lol look at the eagle's head on his t-shirt in both pictures... :P

NewBlade200
09-22-2011, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by matheus_737:
I HATE Desmond's face looks like Niko from GTA 4

Altair's face is good, Ezio too, but the voice of altair in AC1 is very better than ACR.

enought of critics the GAME IS AWESOME, THE STORY ALL PERFECT FOR MY THIS GAME WILL SURPRISES ALL OF US MORE THAN WE EXPECT !!!!!!!!! How can you judge a game you have not yet played?

albertwesker22
09-22-2011, 05:46 PM
lol look at the eagle's head on his t-shirt in both pictures... :P

lol Spot the difference.

SleezeRocker
09-22-2011, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
Just like someone else said, Desmond looks like mixing his facial features with Ezio's.

http://images.wikia.com/assassinscreed/images/3/32/ACR_Desmond_Trailer_9.JPG

http://www.mtgmintcard.com/images/products/49/YUGIOH-DARK-BEGINNING-POLYMERIZATION-DB1-EN119.jpg

Geinref
09-22-2011, 06:01 PM
How hard is it to model desmond's face using the SAME jpeg image from the previous games?!! Seriously I'm not happy about it too, i just hope that the theory of the animus altering his face is true.

I can understand his face looking like that if the game took place a few years after brotherhood but this game only spans a few months!

Anyways everything else looks great cant wait!!

someone should start a petition for dez's face.

LukewarmPoptart
09-22-2011, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/attentaeter85/assassins-creed-revelations-20110922032906990.jpg

This doesn't help my theory about the animus though.

"Nationality - U.S.A."

what? the modern AC takes place in Italy, did the Templars seriously kidnap Desmond from America and take him to Italy?

Valaquen_
09-22-2011, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by albertwesker22:
Desmond looks like a pasty faced Scotsman.

As a Scotsman ... I deny these charges! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

New Desmond looks odd, indeed.

Calvarok
09-22-2011, 06:29 PM
This thread = Oh no, Desmond's face now has more realistic proportions!

I'm not going to say anything more, other than that quite honestly, the Desmond face we had before, along with most of the Brotherhood/AC2 faces, don't look as close to a real human's face as the ones we see now. Indisputable fact. Love it or hate it.

Will_Lucky
09-22-2011, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by BradKinn:
"Nationality - U.S.A."

what? the modern AC takes place in Italy, did the Templars seriously kidnap Desmond from America and take him to Italy?

If I recall in the E3 Code thread about Desmonds memories there was a 2 day gap between "Are you Desmond Miles" and "Bastards". By the sounds of it they honestly moved him from America to Italy. Vidic must be based in Italy and wanted Desmond brought to him.

Saqaliba
09-22-2011, 06:38 PM
I can't see the videos... only adverts. Can someone load them on youtube? Is there somewhere else to view them?

RighteousGlory
09-22-2011, 06:43 PM
Does no one notice Altair holding the apple and talking to the one guy as if he betrayed him?!? http://www.ign.com/videos/2011...apple?objectid=93900 (http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/09/22/assassins-creed-revelations-altair-and-the-apple?objectid=93900) And also, the beginning of the other Altair video, is that possibly how he meets Malik? http://www.ign.com/videos/2011...ons-altair-in-action (http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/09/22/assassins-creed-revelations-altair-in-action) Just a thought...

But that totally has to be S16. But all these videos seem to show a tad more spoilers than pretty much everthing we've seen combined!

Krayus Korianis
09-22-2011, 06:55 PM
I like Desmond's new face. And it probably IS the Animus doing it to him.

Of course Desmond's new face actually looks like someone's face tbh, not just modeled by an Italian guy with smooth skin.

Calvarok
09-22-2011, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by BradKinn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/attentaeter85/assassins-creed-revelations-20110922032906990.jpg

This doesn't help my theory about the animus though.

"Nationality - U.S.A."

what? the modern AC takes place in Italy, did the Templars seriously kidnap Desmond from America and take him to Italy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, you have to remember that Desmond traveled around the world a lot, to try to outrun the Templars. I think he came to Italy himself.

LukewarmPoptart
09-22-2011, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by Calvarok:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BradKinn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/attentaeter85/assassins-creed-revelations-20110922032906990.jpg

This doesn't help my theory about the animus though.


"Nationality - U.S.A."

what? the modern AC takes place in Italy, did the Templars seriously kidnap Desmond from America and take him to Italy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, you have to remember that Desmond traveled around the world a lot, to try to outrun the Templars. I think he came to Italy himself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But he was born and raised at "The Farm" and didn't he say it was in the desert? So if he's american then he must be from Arizona or New Mexico

NewBlade200
09-22-2011, 07:03 PM
Des didn't have a passport. The only reason the Abstergo found him was because he had a bike license.

His face does seem to have more realistic proportions now. I can't help but see how he looks like Niko.

AlphaAltair
09-22-2011, 07:08 PM
Ugh! He looks a bit like a bad cross between Alex Amancio and Gabe. Weird.

dxsxhxcx
09-22-2011, 07:11 PM
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs2...ellic_by_pixeloo.jpg (http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs25/f/2008/169/1/0/Niko_Bellic_by_pixeloo.jpg)

:P

Moultonborough
09-22-2011, 07:37 PM
The thing that interests me most is what Ezio is doing when he meets Sophia. A seal location? Or something like a Romulus Tomb/Assassin Tomb? What do you guys think?

kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 07:43 PM
Desmond has been confirmed to be American since 2007. If you bought AC1, the little handbook that comes with it gives a little bio of the characters and it does say U.S.A for the nationality of Desmond.

dxsxhxcx
09-22-2011, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Moultonborough:
The thing that interests me most is what Ezio is doing when he meets Sophia. A seal location? Or something like a Romulus Tomb/Assassin Tomb? What do you guys think?


[SPOILERS - ACR]


Originally posted by InfectedNation:
Ezio found Niccol˛ Polo's old trading post, which was at that point inhabited by the Venetian bookseller Sofia Sorto. In the area below the trading post, Ezio found a Masyaf key and an ecrypted map...


source: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/5111070849 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5111070849)

Animuses
09-22-2011, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Calvarok:
This thread = Oh no, Desmond's face now has more realistic proportions!

I'm not going to say anything more, other than that quite honestly, the Desmond face we had before, along with most of the Brotherhood/AC2 faces, don't look as close to a real human's face as the ones we see now. Indisputable fact. Love it or hate it.
Despite the fact that it looks more realistic, it's still not Desmond.

Jexx21
09-22-2011, 08:37 PM
I'm not gonna lie, the face is starting to grow on me.

Animuses
09-22-2011, 08:40 PM
The new face looks great, but it's just TOO different.

kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 08:40 PM
lol Desmond's face has changed a little bit in each game. It only annoys me a little because there usually isn't any in game reason for it outside of the fact that they want him to look more like whatever ancestor is being played. His clothes also tend to change depending on the game but this is by far the most significant change so far and I just hope it's due to the animus and not them attempting to make him just look like older Ezio like they've done in the past.

twenty_glyphs
09-22-2011, 09:50 PM
It seems like a silly idea to have the main character's face changing within the same game, so I'm not too sure about the theory that the Animus is making Desmond's face the way it looks. How are we supposed to form some kind of attachment to a character whose face keeps changing within the same game? I also find it funny because of how many people claim they made Alta´r's face look just like Desmond's in the first game because they were too lazy to make a new one, yet now they may be going out of their way to create two additional faces for Desmond in this game.

*** SPOILERS ***

I wonder how much of a role the island itself will play inside the Black Room. It would be cool if it was some kind of hub world for Desmond where he could free roam between Ezio memories. It seems like the gates are pathways into the heart of the Animus files where Desmond can access the memory files of Ezio. I imagine once Desmond enters those gates, the puzzle sequences will start and be obstacles to accessing the files.

I really like the concept stated by Subject 16 about needing to relive ancestor memories until they have nothing left to show you. That's an interesting way to stop the bleeding effect and compartmentalize the ancestors in the mind. I also never thought of it or heard it mentioned, so the idea is fresh.


Finish what you started, until your ancestor has nothing left to show you. That is a synch nexus. And when you find it, the Animus can separate Desmond from Ezio and Alta´r and send you home, back to your body.

Moultonborough
09-22-2011, 10:20 PM
You know now that a good bit of info has come out and twenty_glyphs post above me something has finally occurred to me. I don't know how many of us has played Oblivion but at one point your character has to repair someone Else's mind for him. In the game it is exactly like what twenty_glyphs suggests with his thoughts on the island. You have to go into different areas but always return to a "base" area until he can awaken. Anyone else think they are kind of stealing the idea from Besada(sp?) but just expanding on the idea? And how do you think it will be used in AC:R?

HECTORRAU7
09-22-2011, 10:24 PM
The shore video reminded me of inception :P
Altair is definitely the one with the better model. Ezio i sort of understand the ugliness since he's old, but Desmond... he looks awful, like he's 40 or something.

BTW, way to go ubisoft, showing subject 16 to us so carelesly after all this years :S

twenty_glyphs
09-22-2011, 10:34 PM
I doubt the decision to show Subject 16 (presumably) wasn't made carelessly. It's not like this video just slipped out accidentally, and they could have IGN take it down if they didn't want it up. I'm surprised that they did show him after the way they blurred the encyclopedia page with his entry two different times. But I still maintain that who he is and his appearance are irrelevant. His experience and knowledge are what is important, not what he looks like. I would also bet these scenes are from the beginning of the game, so it's not like people wouldn't be seeing and posting this same thing on the Internet the week before the game comes out when they start getting it early.

kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 10:36 PM
At this point after a month of no SP and nothing at TGS, I don't even care that they spoiled the subject 16 thing. I'm just super happy to see some SP gameplay already. My excitement for this game is starting to come back. I also really liked how they didn't just show one 2 minute trailer but 5 mini sections of the game from all three protagonists. Today was a good day http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Moultonborough
09-22-2011, 11:11 PM
I think after after they saw how annoyed we were after no TGS appearance they decided to release their new info a few days earlier than first planed. Not that I am complaining just seems the logical explication why so many things came out in one day. Probably a record for them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

kriegerdesgottes
09-22-2011, 11:37 PM
Yeah I couldn't believe it when I looked over and I was like "wait!, these are all new!" plus they never did come out with any developer diaries this year so I guess they thought they should make up for lost time. Works for me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Moultonborough
09-23-2011, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Moultonborough:
The thing that interests me most is what Ezio is doing when he meets Sophia. A seal location? Or something like a Romulus Tomb/Assassin Tomb? What do you guys think?


[SPOILERS - ACR]


Originally posted by InfectedNation:
Ezio found Niccol˛ Polo's old trading post, which was at that point inhabited by the Venetian bookseller Sofia Sorto. In the area below the trading post, Ezio found a Masyaf key and an ecrypted map...


source: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/5111070849 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5111070849) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah..Thank You for that. I had forgotten. Now that that has been cleared up two more questions has occurred to me. One if what that quote said was true how is Ezio going to Decrypt a map. The letter that Ezio got in Brotherhood was also encrypted and took the whole game to figure it out. Who do you think will do it this time. Second question is this: in the "Altair In Action" trailer it shows a Assassin tell Altair where Al Muliam is. Do you think this is the start of the mission we see from the Gamescom trailer or something else?

LightRey
09-23-2011, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by BradKinn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Calvarok:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BradKinn:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/attentaeter85/assassins-creed-revelations-20110922032906990.jpg

This doesn't help my theory about the animus though.


"Nationality - U.S.A."

what? the modern AC takes place in Italy, did the Templars seriously kidnap Desmond from America and take him to Italy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, you have to remember that Desmond traveled around the world a lot, to try to outrun the Templars. I think he came to Italy himself. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But he was born and raised at "The Farm" and didn't he say it was in the desert? So if he's american then he must be from Arizona or New Mexico </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
He could never have been born in Europe. Europe doesn't have any deserts.

Artemis88
09-23-2011, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
He could never have been born in Europe. Europe doesn't have any deserts.

I beg to differ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

There are semi deserts in Italy and Spain. Ukraine, Oltenia, Serbia, Southeastern Bulgaria have deserts too.

LightRey
09-23-2011, 04:17 AM
Originally posted by Artemis88:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
He could never have been born in Europe. Europe doesn't have any deserts.

I beg to differ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

There are semi deserts in Italy and Spain. Ukraine, Oltenia, Serbia, Southeastern Bulgaria have deserts too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
semi-desert =/= desert

EzioAssassin51
09-23-2011, 04:27 AM
I nerded when I saw these and even more when i saw the awesome new look of the forum http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But anyway, I only read the first page so sorry if this has been mentioned but I don't think it's Subject 16, it doesn't sound much like him...

Sick_one12
09-23-2011, 04:36 AM
Thats because it isnt the same voice actor http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif 16 is usually voiced by Cam Clarke!And i would never mistake the voice of liquid snake for someones else http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

So its either not 16 or they changed his voice actor http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Ezio95
09-23-2011, 04:57 AM
I do not think that is desmonds face portrayed in the new short movie things, listen to what the man ( possibly subject 16) at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD93Up2tzng

He sais, after finding this nexus, then the animus can separte desmond, from ezio, and altair. this means all of their distinct looks have blended together, and thats his "look" in the blackroom.. trust me im sure of it..

Maybe lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

dxsxhxcx
09-23-2011, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by Moultonborough:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by dxsxhxcx:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Moultonborough:
The thing that interests me most is what Ezio is doing when he meets Sophia. A seal location? Or something like a Romulus Tomb/Assassin Tomb? What do you guys think?


[SPOILERS - ACR]


Originally posted by InfectedNation:
Ezio found Niccol˛ Polo's old trading post, which was at that point inhabited by the Venetian bookseller Sofia Sorto. In the area below the trading post, Ezio found a Masyaf key and an ecrypted map...


source: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/5111070849 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5111070849) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah..Thank You for that. I had forgotten. Now that that has been cleared up two more questions has occurred to me. One if what that quote said was true how is Ezio going to Decrypt a map. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you click in the link I provided as the source you'll find an explanation for this as well... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

this info was taken from a video about the encyclopedia where some people were able to read Ezio's article in the video, so I believe it's true.

eagleforlife1
09-23-2011, 06:37 AM
Am I the only one who preferred Ezio's face in the E3 trailer?

Grandmaster_Z
09-23-2011, 06:48 AM
AC: Planet of the Apes

luckyto
09-23-2011, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by NBST:
ACB:
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/3/30014/1636747-desmond_miles.jpg

ACR:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m521/attentaeter85/assassins-creed-revelations-20110922032906990.jpg

Yeah... let's hope he doesn't stay that way...

In addition to the sagging cheeks, they changed the shape of the eyebrows, eyes and nose --- which is almost like a person's fingerprint. Wow, looking at it side-by-side, the change is glaring. I don't understand why change it.

If that's how it is, it's too late to change now. 2 months till release.

LightRey
09-23-2011, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by luckyto:
In addition to the sagging cheeks, they changed the shape of the eyebrows, eyes and nose --- which is almost like a person's fingerprint. Wow, looking at it side-by-side, the change is glaring. I don't understand why change it.

If that's how it is, it's too late to change now. 2 months till release.
I'm hoping the "messed up animus interpretation of Desmond" is the explanation for the change in facial structure. Not that I don't like this new face per se, but I'd like for the story to be a little more consistent than that.

ace3001
09-23-2011, 08:16 AM
No actual gameplay... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
Anyway, these videos have managed to increase my hype for this game, and I didn't think that was possible. :P
Am I the only who thinks Desmond's face changing according to the animus is kind of an interesting thing, btw?

reini03
09-23-2011, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by luckyto:
In addition to the sagging cheeks, they changed the shape of the eyebrows, eyes and nose --- which is almost like a person's fingerprint. Wow, looking at it side-by-side, the change is glaring. I don't understand why change it.

If that's how it is, it's too late to change now. 2 months till release.

Aren't Ubisoft using Mocap for ACR? Because that's sure gonna change the look a bit as well...

dxsxhxcx
09-23-2011, 08:30 AM
IMO this is just an improvement in the graphics and has nothing to do with the animus, the sooner people realize this the better, because if this change end up having an explanation in the game, you won't have nothing to lose... :P

CRUDFACE
09-23-2011, 08:50 AM
Desmond's face changed because of the new engine they're using for graphics. His story has only been about a month or two, his face wouldn't have changed that much.

I doubt it's because of the animus. remember when they changed Lucy's face from AC to AC2? Then they changed it again to better resemble the face from AC1. they even changed Rebecca's face from AC2 to ACB.



Three things I liked:

Sophia Sorto...damn...

S16...really cool, I like his style. And we can compare him to how f-ing crazy he gets.

when Ezio says, "the most interesting man you've ever known." Aaesome line, made me lol

And did anybody catch what 16 said about the Nexus? It doesn't match up with what they told us before. S16 describes it as just running through all the memories until you have none left.

luckyto
09-23-2011, 08:55 AM
If it is a different engine, that is understandable. It should look different. Though, I still think a little more care could have been given to the remodeling. Ezio and Altair seem to have come out resembling their old selves.

I'm OK - whatever the explanation. It's not a dealbreaker for me. It's certainly not as important as gameplay. And if the whole environment looks better, I'll be double happy.

It is interesting - I would like to know more about that development process -

eagleforlife1
09-23-2011, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by t260z:
And did anybody catch what 16 said about the Nexus? It doesn't match up with what they told us before. S16 describes it as just running through all the memories until you have none left.

To get out of the coma the animus needs to separate Desmond from Altair and Ezio. The only way of doing this is by viewing all memories that he is yet to see of them.

cless711
09-23-2011, 10:10 AM
I would see the new vids but i really don't wanna spoil anything. XD

naran6142
09-23-2011, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by cless711:
I would see the new vids but i really don't wanna spoil anything. XD

there aren't any huge spoiler, except for maybe one

plus you shouldn't be reading the thread if you dont want spoilers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

notafanboy
09-23-2011, 10:16 AM
is it just me or... does Sofia sound a bit... stupid ?. don┤t get me wrong but the way she says " who put that there" makes me wonder.

LightRey
09-23-2011, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by notafanboy:
is it just me or... does Sofia sound a bit... stupid ?. don┤t get me wrong but the way she says " who put that there" makes me wonder.
I dunno. I wouldn't call it stupid. I think she's acting.

kriegerdesgottes
09-23-2011, 10:26 AM
Well if you saw Ezio walk up to a wall and somehow knew how to open it up, you would probably think the same thing. The first thing I would think is where does that go? who put that there? and how do you know about it?

johnnyhayek
09-23-2011, 11:08 AM
Guys, I think it's obvious why Desmond looks like an old Ezio. Due to the bleeding effect, and this was obvious in ACB when Desmond referred to Ezio as "I", Desmond now subconsciously thinks he is Ezio, so all his broken mind knows now is that Ezio is reality. AS Desmond builds up his shattered mind again, he will start looking like normal again. This is a good assumption I think. Also, Altair's voice in these videos is great. Better than Gamescom's voice I think.

reini03
09-23-2011, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by johnnyhayek:
Guys, I think it's obvious why Desmond looks like an old Ezio. Due to the bleeding effect, and this was obvious in ACB when Desmond referred to Ezio as "I", Desmond now subconsciously thinks he is Ezio, so all his broken mind knows now is that Ezio is reality. AS Desmond builds up his shattered mind again, he will start looking like normal again. This is a good assumption I think. Also, Altair's voice in these videos is great. Better than Gamescom's voice I think.

I don't think it has anything to do with the bleeding effect. Because, you know, I can think that I'm Chuck Norris, but that won't change my face. Get what I mean? But it does indeed sound pretty likely to have something to do with the Animus.

naran6142
09-23-2011, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by MagnifyHope:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by johnnyhayek:
Guys, I think it's obvious why Desmond looks like an old Ezio. Due to the bleeding effect, and this was obvious in ACB when Desmond referred to Ezio as "I", Desmond now subconsciously thinks he is Ezio, so all his broken mind knows now is that Ezio is reality. AS Desmond builds up his shattered mind again, he will start looking like normal again. This is a good assumption I think. Also, Altair's voice in these videos is great. Better than Gamescom's voice I think.

I don't think it has anything to do with the bleeding effect. Because, you know, I can think that I'm Chuck Norris, but that won't change my face. Get what I mean? But it does indeed sound pretty likely to have something to do with the Animus. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

desmonds mind is having trouble determining who he is, and the animus is representing that by mixing his features with ezios

well thats one of the leading ideas

itsamea-mario
09-23-2011, 11:37 AM
Well obviously it won't change his physical face, but his interpretation of his face maybe.

sidspyker24
09-23-2011, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by MagnifyHope:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by johnnyhayek:
Guys, I think it's obvious why Desmond looks like an old Ezio. Due to the bleeding effect, and this was obvious in ACB when Desmond referred to Ezio as "I", Desmond now subconsciously thinks he is Ezio, so all his broken mind knows now is that Ezio is reality. AS Desmond builds up his shattered mind again, he will start looking like normal again. This is a good assumption I think. Also, Altair's voice in these videos is great. Better than Gamescom's voice I think.

I don't think it has anything to do with the bleeding effect. Because, you know, I can think that I'm Chuck Norris, but that won't change my face. Get what I mean? But it does indeed sound pretty likely to have something to do with the Animus. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hahaha, Chuck Norris, *whispers*you officially OWN this thread...

It's just like how people say GTA4 is to blame for London riots.....yeah right if i play pacman doesn't mean I go around eating people...

johnnyhayek
09-23-2011, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by itsamea-mario:
Well obviously it won't change his physical face, but his interpretation of his face maybe.

Exactly what I meant in my post http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

AnthonyA85
09-23-2011, 12:12 PM
That place where desmond ended up certainly looked interesting, I thought it was a representation of Masyaf at first.

Hopefully trapsing around inside the animus will look alot better than it did in ACB, during the Subject 16 interview. Although, I kinda hope that isn't 16, since I liked the other VA they used in AC2 and ACB.

The Altair segment looked cool though, was that Malik he was helping? It couldn't be, since Altair and Malik grew up to gether, so if that is Malik, he'd know who Altair is.

LightRey
09-23-2011, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by AnthonyA85:
That place where desmond ended up certainly looked interesting, I thought it was a representation of Masyaf at first.

Hopefully trapsing around inside the animus will look alot better than it did in ACB, during the Subject 16 interview. Although, I kinda hope that isn't 16, since I liked the other VA they used in AC2 and ACB.

The Altair segment looked cool though, was that Malik he was helping? It couldn't be, since Altair and Malik grew up to gether, so if that is Malik, he'd know who Altair is.
It is S16. He's wearing the same clothes as the silhouette from the encyclopedia images and other than that their features look very similar.

itsamea-mario
09-23-2011, 12:35 PM
I think it is 16, in the encyclopaedia video, even though he's blurred out you can still recognise the shirt he's wearing and his hair.

kriegerdesgottes
09-23-2011, 12:48 PM
There's no way it's not 16. It's obvious it's the same guy from the blurred encyclopedia photo.

SleezeRocker
09-23-2011, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
Desmond's face changed because of the new engine they're using for graphics.

Yeah, skip to like 1:00 of the PAX video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVwX_I21rc) and talk about what they did new to ACR.

*oh yeah SPOILERS in the video^^ so don't click..should've typed this sooner >_<**

Calvarok
09-23-2011, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by AnthonyA85:
That place where desmond ended up certainly looked interesting, I thought it was a representation of Masyaf at first.

Hopefully trapsing around inside the animus will look alot better than it did in ACB, during the Subject 16 interview. Although, I kinda hope that isn't 16, since I liked the other VA they used in AC2 and ACB.

The Altair segment looked cool though, was that Malik he was helping? It couldn't be, since Altair and Malik grew up to gether, so if that is Malik, he'd know who Altair is.
It's actually the exact same voice actor, except he's not sounding panicked like he was in the messages he left for Desmond.

kriegerdesgottes
09-23-2011, 01:17 PM
I agree that it's probably the same voice actor but how do you know for sure?

LightRey
09-23-2011, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Calvarok:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AnthonyA85:
That place where desmond ended up certainly looked interesting, I thought it was a representation of Masyaf at first.

Hopefully trapsing around inside the animus will look alot better than it did in ACB, during the Subject 16 interview. Although, I kinda hope that isn't 16, since I liked the other VA they used in AC2 and ACB.

The Altair segment looked cool though, was that Malik he was helping? It couldn't be, since Altair and Malik grew up to gether, so if that is Malik, he'd know who Altair is.
It's actually the exact same voice actor, except he's not sounding panicked like he was in the messages he left for Desmond. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Could well be the case. In the previous games he was always panting, so it's hard to tell.

CRUDFACE
09-23-2011, 02:43 PM
Oh yeah, @notafanboy, she sounded kind of stupid when she asked those questions. It's like the questions themselves weren't stupid,okay, the one where she aks who put that there was, it was rather HOW she said it.



Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
And did anybody catch what 16 said about the Nexus? It doesn't match up with what they told us before. S16 describes it as just running through all the memories until you have none left.

To get out of the coma the animus needs to separate Desmond from Altair and Ezio. The only way of doing this is by viewing all memories that he is yet to see of them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You just repeated the same thing. I'm saying that the developers said that the nexus was where the memories crossed, like a hub.

fanofthecreed
09-23-2011, 03:01 PM
I don't know if it is my stupidity or my iPod touch but I can't find this new video when I click on the link the video is 20 seconds long any help?

LightRey
09-23-2011, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
Oh yeah, @notafanboy, she sounded kind of stupid when she asked those questions. It's like the questions themselves weren't stupid,okay, the one where she aks who put that there was, it was rather HOW she said it.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by eagleforlife1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
And did anybody catch what 16 said about the Nexus? It doesn't match up with what they told us before. S16 describes it as just running through all the memories until you have none left.

To get out of the coma the animus needs to separate Desmond from Altair and Ezio. The only way of doing this is by viewing all memories that he is yet to see of them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You just repeated the same thing. I'm saying that the developers said that the nexus was where the memories crossed, like a hub. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Could be the same thing (in this case).

kriegerdesgottes
09-23-2011, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by fanofthecreed:
I don't know if it is my stupidity or my iPod touch but I can't find this new video when I click on the link the video is 20 seconds long any help?

The video is supposed to be 20 seconds long. They are all relatively short but better than the nothing we have seen for over a month.

jwiniars
09-23-2011, 03:15 PM
I don't know if anyone else has posted this, so if you did, sorry. But maybe the face change has nothing to do with the game or anything with the story at all.

Maybe it could be legal action or something by the guy (Francisco Randez) who is the face of Desmond

http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Francisco_Randez

It does say at the end of the article that he hasn't gotten any real benefits...

Here is his blogspot http://franciscorandez.blogspot.com/

Wouldn't you be promoting something as big as assassin's creed if your face was in it? I know for the past games he has barely mentioned them.

Thoughts?

RzaRecta357
09-23-2011, 03:32 PM
So, I skipped ALL the pages so if I missed something important let me know as you all know I'm a regular.

I was disappointed by them not looking the same but BAM I bet that young Altair is the young version of this Desmonds look.

Graphical upgrade to the max.

That old teaser video? Placeholder Desmond from Brotherhood with a dyed sweater.

This is Desmonds new face. And Altair once again will look like him I think.

I frickin Love it.

Animuses
09-23-2011, 03:48 PM
I don't think Desmond and Altair look anything alike.

fyiByas
09-23-2011, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Animuses:
I don't think Desmond and Altair look anything alike.

Actually in Assassin's Creed 1 Both Desmond & Alta´r looked very familar.

Animuses
09-23-2011, 04:08 PM
I meant in Revelations.

RzaRecta357
09-23-2011, 04:08 PM
Yeah the three of them have always looked the same. Ezio had to age a bit and then was older than Desmond so only truly looked like Desmond during the Venice portion of AC2.

Altair still doesn't look that much like Desmond but the new face helps a bit. I'm hoping as he ages he'll start to look like him. Ezio now looks like the old version of Desmond.


Those facial features look insanely improved over the last three games.

Here's hoping we see their teeth and stuff during kill cams like we used to in AC1.

Dieinthedark
09-23-2011, 04:28 PM
I'll add my two cents, I don't like Desmond's new look...or Altair's voice but whatever....

LightRey
09-23-2011, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Dieinthedark:
I'll add my two cents, I don't like Desmond's new look...or Altair's voice but whatever....
It's the same voice. Different (real) accent, but the same voice actor.

Dieinthedark
09-23-2011, 05:08 PM
Look, I've gotten flamed about this before. I don't have a problem with the "real" accent. That honestly isn't my problem. To me, I associate Altair with the voice of the 1st game. Always. I don't care if ACR is accurate, again, that's not the point I'm making. If I hadn't played AC1 and didn't know Altair's voice, I'd be cool with this. But I have played AC1 and that IMO should be his voice then, now and always.

IDK if you've played Splinter Cell but it's like the same type of argument. I wouldn't buy a game where Sam Fisher is the main character but isn't voiced by Michael Ironside. I just wouldn't.

LightRey
09-23-2011, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Dieinthedark:
Look, I've gotten flamed about this before. I don't have a problem with the "real" accent. That honestly isn't my problem. To me, I associate Altair with the voice of the 1st game. Always. I don't care if ACR is accurate, again, that's not the point I'm making. If I hadn't played AC1 and didn't know Altair's voice, I'd be cool with this. But I have played AC1 and that IMO should be his voice then, now and always.

IDK if you've played Splinter Cell but it's like the same type of argument. I wouldn't buy a game where Sam Fisher is the main character but isn't voiced by Michael Ironside. I just wouldn't.
Again, it's the same voice. The voice actor is just using an accent this time.

Dieinthedark
09-23-2011, 05:13 PM
Yeah, I realize that. Point is, I'm stubborn. If the voice isn't EXACTLY as I knew it before, to me, it's not the same at all. Again just IMO

LightRey
09-23-2011, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by Dieinthedark:
Yeah, I realize that. Point is, I'm stubborn. If the voice isn't EXACTLY as I knew it before, to me, it's not the same at all. Again just IMO
I can understand that, but just be aware that it's the same voice actor. The guy deserves at least that much credit.

Dieinthedark
09-23-2011, 05:17 PM
Yeah, I'm glad it's the same voice actor or I'd be really annoyed. I've got to say though, YOU, are the ONLY person on here that can @ least agree to disagree with me on this.

Truth be told the other problem I have with Altair is that he's doing the Death From Above which was written in the Codex after AC1 yet Altair can do this before AC1 and not during it? Not to mention the execution streaks too

LightRey
09-23-2011, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Dieinthedark:
Yeah, I'm glad it's the same voice actor or I'd be really annoyed. I've got to say though, YOU, are the ONLY person on here that can @ least agree to disagree with me on this.

Truth be told the other problem I have with Altair is that he's doing the Death From Above which was written in the Codex after AC1 yet Altair can do this before AC1 and not during it? Not to mention the execution streaks too
He didn't do that according to the storyline actually. As you can see in the demo when he allows the traitor to speak his last words he sheathes his sword, which strongly suggest they had a duel of some sort.

Moultonborough
09-23-2011, 05:18 PM
This has probably been mentioned already but I think I realized why Altair's voice is different than in AC1. Because this time it is Ezio living the memories this time not Desmond. In AC Lucy said they changed the language to English to help Desmond so it fit to his needs and voice. So the seals have done the same for Ezio this time around.

LightRey
09-23-2011, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Moultonborough:
This has probably been mentioned already but I think I realized why Altair's voice is different than in AC1. Because this time it is Ezio living the memories this time not Desmond. In AC Lucy said they changed the language to English to help Desmond so it fit to his needs and voice. So the seals have done the same for Ezio this time around.
Yeah, that's what most of us appear to be thinking and I'm inclined to agree.

Dieinthedark
09-23-2011, 05:21 PM
Hmm, I like that explanation. It would appear to make sense anyway

acjake
09-23-2011, 05:55 PM
I haven't watched the gameplay yet I just wanted to know are there any heavy spoilers?

Thanks

Moultonborough
09-23-2011, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by acjake:
I haven't watched the gameplay yet I just wanted to know are there any heavy spoilers?

Thanks

In the video named "Desmond's Mission". But, besides that no not really.

acjake
09-23-2011, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Moultonborough:
In the video named "Desmond's Mission". But, besides that no not really.

Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Moultonborough
09-23-2011, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by acjake:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Moultonborough:
In the video named "Desmond's Mission". But, besides that no not really.

Thanks http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are very welcome. I hate to have things spoiled for me if I don't want them to be.

acjake
09-23-2011, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Moultonborough:
You are very welcome. I hate to have things spoiled for me if I don't want them to be.

I know what you mean. I had ACB's ending spoiled for me and I wasn't too happy about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. I waited so long for it to come out and like within 2 days someone spoiled the ending.

twenty_glyphs
09-23-2011, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
It's the same voice. Different (real) accent, but the same voice actor.

He said on his Twitter account that he hasn't recorded anything for Revelations or been called as of 8/27: https://twitter.com/#!/pshahbaz

kriegerdesgottes
09-23-2011, 08:01 PM
holy crap it's true. Why did we all assume it was the original voice actor?

Moultonborough
09-23-2011, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by acjake:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Moultonborough:
You are very welcome. I hate to have things spoiled for me if I don't want them to be.

I know what you mean. I had ACB's ending spoiled for me and I wasn't too happy about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. I waited so long for it to come out and like within 2 days someone spoiled the ending. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is exactly why I will not be visiting the Ubisoft website till I beat it. Just to make sure.

kriegerdesgottes
09-23-2011, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by Moultonborough:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by acjake:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Moultonborough:
You are very welcome. I hate to have things spoiled for me if I don't want them to be.

I know what you mean. I had ACB's ending spoiled for me and I wasn't too happy about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. I waited so long for it to come out and like within 2 days someone spoiled the ending. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is exactly why I will not be visiting the Ubisoft website till I beat it. Just to make sure. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You should probably avoid youtube as well during the entire first week before and after release. The temptation to watch the entire game is super strong and there's always some guy who has great footage of the game like days or a week beforehand. *cough* zwooosh *cough*

Jexx21
09-23-2011, 08:09 PM
He was credited in the IMBd, which is why people thought he was the actor of Altiar.

To be completely honest, I think that the voice we are hearing right now might just be placeholder lines. They did it with Wheatley from Portal 2.

kriegerdesgottes
09-23-2011, 08:34 PM
IMB is wrong a lot though and I don't think they are going to change it this late in the game. They usually do voice work wayyyy early in the development process.

Animuses
09-23-2011, 09:35 PM
Haha, I knew it.

Calvarok
09-23-2011, 10:37 PM
Meh, whatever. In that case I overestimated the actor's ability to adapt. This voice is much better.

CRUDFACE
09-24-2011, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dieinthedark:
Yeah, I'm glad it's the same voice actor or I'd be really annoyed. I've got to say though, YOU, are the ONLY person on here that can @ least agree to disagree with me on this.

Truth be told the other problem I have with Altair is that he's doing the Death From Above which was written in the Codex after AC1 yet Altair can do this before AC1 and not during it? Not to mention the execution streaks too
He didn't do that according to the storyline actually. As you can see in the demo when he allows the traitor to speak his last words he sheathes his sword, which strongly suggest they had a duel of some sort. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Though true, the fact that he can do the move kind of breaks cannon. Sort of like how when you play as Ezio going after Rodrigo at the end of AC2. It heavily implies that you did the air assassination, but you can use the gun if you wish. In other words, you can do whatever the character can do.

See, instead of my usual...umm...b-tching. I'm going to say that with this new animus, Ezio can transfer his way of fighting and such over to Altair.

BTW, I am loving all the extra designs on their robes.

Randy 355
09-24-2011, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dieinthedark:
Yeah, I'm glad it's the same voice actor or I'd be really annoyed. I've got to say though, YOU, are the ONLY person on here that can @ least agree to disagree with me on this.

Truth be told the other problem I have with Altair is that he's doing the Death From Above which was written in the Codex after AC1 yet Altair can do this before AC1 and not during it? Not to mention the execution streaks too
He didn't do that according to the storyline actually. As you can see in the demo when he allows the traitor to speak his last words he sheathes his sword, which strongly suggest they had a duel of some sort. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Though true, the fact that he can do the move kind of breaks cannon. Sort of like how when you play as Ezio going after Rodrigo at the end of AC2. It heavily implies that you did the air assassination, but you can use the gun if you wish. In other words, you can do whatever the character can do.

See, instead of my usual...umm...b-tching. I'm going to say that with this new animus, Ezio can transfer his way of fighting and such over to Altair.

BTW, I am loving all the extra designs on their robes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't see why this miniscule bit of canon would be more important than gameplay. It wouldn't be as fun if you weren't able to do some of these moves. Pulling a guy off a ledge and air assassinating (possible in AC1) are nothing to argue about. Pulling a guy off of a ledge is what anyone trying to kill a man would do in that scenario.

It's the best for gameplay. Canon can take this little, tiny, pointless hit. It's a sandbox game after-all.

LightRey
09-24-2011, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dieinthedark:
Yeah, I'm glad it's the same voice actor or I'd be really annoyed. I've got to say though, YOU, are the ONLY person on here that can @ least agree to disagree with me on this.

Truth be told the other problem I have with Altair is that he's doing the Death From Above which was written in the Codex after AC1 yet Altair can do this before AC1 and not during it? Not to mention the execution streaks too
He didn't do that according to the storyline actually. As you can see in the demo when he allows the traitor to speak his last words he sheathes his sword, which strongly suggest they had a duel of some sort. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Though true, the fact that he can do the move kind of breaks cannon. Sort of like how when you play as Ezio going after Rodrigo at the end of AC2. It heavily implies that you did the air assassination, but you can use the gun if you wish. In other words, you can do whatever the character can do.

See, instead of my usual...umm...b-tching. I'm going to say that with this new animus, Ezio can transfer his way of fighting and such over to Altair.

BTW, I am loving all the extra designs on their robes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, it doesn't break canon. The only account of the technique is the one in the codex where it's written that Alta´r had discussed new techniques with Malic, which apparently included the aerial assassination as can be seen from the video.

However, that does in no way mean that Alta´r never used it before. The point where Alta´r and Malic discussed the technique could simply be the point at which they analyzed it and wrote down how exactly to perform it, so that it could be taught to others, but it's such a simple and basic technique really that I can't imagine a master assassin like Alta´r not having developed it naturally.

RzaRecta357
09-24-2011, 03:02 AM
I was just about to come post what LightRey just said.

Altair and Malik just recorded it down to teach. It's not like they were examining the apple and twiddling their thumbs thinking of ideas, only to run out to the courtyard to test them and record them down.

These are things they probably learned in life. In fact i'd be surprised if the devs didn't do it on purpose to make it look like his learning first attempt at it.

I mean, he does become the star assassin whom saved the day when his "brother" Abbas was telling him to flee.

Rakudaton
09-24-2011, 07:08 AM
I hate how Desmond looks. Brotherhood Desmond looked perfect. Now he just looks old, soft, and slightly brain damaged.

... on the other hand, Subject 16 is the very definition of awesome. For some reason he reminds me of a wise little Irish leprechaun. Perhaps it's just how he sits on that rock. Regardless, it's nice to see his personality running deeper than "HAHAHAHA I've gone mad kthnxbai!" Hopefully he'll keep having some of his less sane moments throughout the game.

kriegerdesgottes
09-24-2011, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Rakudaton:
I hate how Desmond looks. Brotherhood Desmond looked perfect. Now he just looks old, soft, and slightly brain damaged.

... on the other hand, Subject 16 is the very definition of awesome. For some reason he reminds me of a wise little Irish leprechaun. Perhaps it's just how he sits on that rock. Regardless, it's nice to see his personality running deeper than "HAHAHAHA I've gone mad kthnxbai!" Hopefully he'll keep having some of his less sane moments throughout the game.

Well now that he's dead he doesn't have much of a reason anymore to be insane. Plus it's just an imprint of his personality on the animus which I hope they go into further because that whole concept kind of jumps out of the typical realm of plausibility that AC usually stays in.

dxsxhxcx
09-24-2011, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rakudaton:
I hate how Desmond looks. Brotherhood Desmond looked perfect. Now he just looks old, soft, and slightly brain damaged.

... on the other hand, Subject 16 is the very definition of awesome. For some reason he reminds me of a wise little Irish leprechaun. Perhaps it's just how he sits on that rock. Regardless, it's nice to see his personality running deeper than "HAHAHAHA I've gone mad kthnxbai!" Hopefully he'll keep having some of his less sane moments throughout the game.

Well now that he's dead he doesn't have much of a reason anymore to be insane. Plus it's just an imprint of his personality on the animus which I hope they go into further because that whole concept kind of jumps out of the typical realm of plausibility that AC usually stays in. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

when he spoke with Desmond on ACB he seemed to be a little confused, and he was speaking with him from the black room, so I believe we'll probably have some moments where we'll see him speaking in riddles instead of going straight to the point... He has everything to be the best character in ACR, can't wait to speak with him... :P

kriegerdesgottes
09-24-2011, 12:37 PM
But realistically, he couldn't possibly have emotions or thoughts or ideas or fears because he is just an imprint from an actual person who is now dead. I doubt that any of that will restrict Ubisoft from giving him those traits anyway. I'm just saying that as a ghost in a machine which in itself is totally implausible, he wouldn't realistically have many human emotions.

itsamea-mario
09-24-2011, 02:14 PM
Well the animus isn't just a computer.
We know it can be used to support someone's mind, that's why desmond's in there. So it's perfectly reasonable to suggest that it can hold someone's personality and memories without them actually being connected.
Especially if that person is a computer genius, which we know 16 is.

Rakudaton
09-24-2011, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by kriegerdesgotte:
But realistically, he couldn't possibly have emotions or thoughts or ideas or fears because he is just an imprint from an actual person who is now dead. I doubt that any of that will restrict Ubisoft from giving him those traits anyway. I'm just saying that as a ghost in a machine which in itself is totally implausible, he wouldn't realistically have many human emotions.

If he can create a virtual version of himself, why wouldn't it display emotions? It probably wouldn't actually be conscious, but it would appear to behave in exactly the same way as the real 16.

CRUDFACE
09-24-2011, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dieinthedark:
Yeah, I'm glad it's the same voice actor or I'd be really annoyed. I've got to say though, YOU, are the ONLY person on here that can @ least agree to disagree with me on this.

Truth be told the other problem I have with Altair is that he's doing the Death From Above which was written in the Codex after AC1 yet Altair can do this before AC1 and not during it? Not to mention the execution streaks too
He didn't do that according to the storyline actually. As you can see in the demo when he allows the traitor to speak his last words he sheathes his sword, which strongly suggest they had a duel of some sort. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Though true, the fact that he can do the move kind of breaks cannon. Sort of like how when you play as Ezio going after Rodrigo at the end of AC2. It heavily implies that you did the air assassination, but you can use the gun if you wish. In other words, you can do whatever the character can do.

See, instead of my usual...umm...b-tching. I'm going to say that with this new animus, Ezio can transfer his way of fighting and such over to Altair.

BTW, I am loving all the extra designs on their robes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, it doesn't break canon. The only account of the technique is the one in the codex where it's written that Alta´r had discussed new techniques with Malic, which apparently included the aerial assassination as can be seen from the video.

However, that does in no way mean that Alta´r never used it before. The point where Alta´r and Malic discussed the technique could simply be the point at which they analyzed it and wrote down how exactly to perform it, so that it could be taught to others, but it's such a simple and basic technique really that I can't imagine a master assassin like Alta´r not having developed it naturally. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then why isn't it in AC1?

Jexx21
09-24-2011, 02:59 PM
they didn't program it in

CRUDFACE
09-24-2011, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Jexx21:
they didn't program it in

They didn't program the memories. the memories are their inside you. the only thing that had their hand in was the environment. Such as the water and the whole thing with Lucy putting in more places to hide.

Edit: adding to that why wouldn't they?

LightRey
09-24-2011, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dieinthedark:
Yeah, I'm glad it's the same voice actor or I'd be really annoyed. I've got to say though, YOU, are the ONLY person on here that can @ least agree to disagree with me on this.

Truth be told the other problem I have with Altair is that he's doing the Death From Above which was written in the Codex after AC1 yet Altair can do this before AC1 and not during it? Not to mention the execution streaks too
He didn't do that according to the storyline actually. As you can see in the demo when he allows the traitor to speak his last words he sheathes his sword, which strongly suggest they had a duel of some sort. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Though true, the fact that he can do the move kind of breaks cannon. Sort of like how when you play as Ezio going after Rodrigo at the end of AC2. It heavily implies that you did the air assassination, but you can use the gun if you wish. In other words, you can do whatever the character can do.

See, instead of my usual...umm...b-tching. I'm going to say that with this new animus, Ezio can transfer his way of fighting and such over to Altair.

BTW, I am loving all the extra designs on their robes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, it doesn't break canon. The only account of the technique is the one in the codex where it's written that Alta´r had discussed new techniques with Malic, which apparently included the aerial assassination as can be seen from the video.

However, that does in no way mean that Alta´r never used it before. The point where Alta´r and Malic discussed the technique could simply be the point at which they analyzed it and wrote down how exactly to perform it, so that it could be taught to others, but it's such a simple and basic technique really that I can't imagine a master assassin like Alta´r not having developed it naturally. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then why isn't it in AC1? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors.

PirateRob
09-24-2011, 03:39 PM
Then why isn't it in AC1?[/QUOTE]
It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors.[/QUOTE]

spot on there, don't know why they made it so difficult to perform in ac1 though..

LightRey
09-24-2011, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by PirateRob:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Then why isn't it in AC1?
It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

spot on there, don't know why they made it so difficult to perform in ac1 though.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
My guess would be that they were still working out the gameplay and simply couldn't find a better way to implement it without rewriting the engine.

PirateRob
09-24-2011, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PirateRob:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Then why isn't it in AC1?
It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

spot on there, don't know why they made it so difficult to perform in ac1 though.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
My guess would be that they were still working out the gameplay and simply couldn't find a better way to implement it without rewriting the engine.[/QUOTE]

that seems plausible there is obvious changes in the engine since ac1

CRUDFACE
09-24-2011, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:

It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors.

Did I do that quote right? Oh well.

Anyways, I know, but it's not the same style and Altair didn't jump and glide, he simply fell on the target. In AC1, you had to be in a hanging position. And can you explain the ledge assassinations please.

LightRey
09-24-2011, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:

It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors.

Did I do that quote right? Oh well.

Anyways, I know, but it's not the same style and Altair didn't jump and glide, he simply fell on the target. In AC1, you had to be in a hanging position. And can you explain the ledge assassinations please. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
These aren't exactly things that require much effort to figure out and try out. The fact that he could do so makes perfect sense.

CRUDFACE
09-24-2011, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:

It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors.

Did I do that quote right? Oh well.

Anyways, I know, but it's not the same style and Altair didn't jump and glide, he simply fell on the target. In AC1, you had to be in a hanging position. And can you explain the ledge assassinations please. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
These aren't exactly things that require much effort to figure out and try out. The fact that he could do so makes perfect sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Avoiding it. I'll ask again. Why didn't Altair do ledge kills in AC1? Also why does he climb just like Ezio?

No, of course they aren't it's pathetically easy these techniques. But I'm not asking you about that. I'm asking you why so much is different now, as well as the above questions.

Jexx21
09-24-2011, 04:45 PM
Because UbiSoft didn't code it in...

dxsxhxcx
09-24-2011, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:

It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors.

Did I do that quote right? Oh well.

Anyways, I know, but it's not the same style and Altair didn't jump and glide, he simply fell on the target. In AC1, you had to be in a hanging position. And can you explain the ledge assassinations please. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
These aren't exactly things that require much effort to figure out and try out. The fact that he could do so makes perfect sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Avoiding it. I'll ask again. Why didn't Altair do ledge kills in AC1? Also why does he climb just like Ezio?

No, of course they aren't it's pathetically easy these techniques. But I'm not asking you about that. I'm asking you why so much is different now, as well as the above questions. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

because Ubisoft didn't want to waste their time making things like this make sense?! :P

Don't get me wrong, I would also like to see the same Altair we saw in AC1 having the same techniques/limitations he had (at least in the memories that happened before AC1), but unfortunately for us, Ubisoft doesn't think this way and we can't do nothing about it...

LightRey
09-24-2011, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:

It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors.

Did I do that quote right? Oh well.

Anyways, I know, but it's not the same style and Altair didn't jump and glide, he simply fell on the target. In AC1, you had to be in a hanging position. And can you explain the ledge assassinations please. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
These aren't exactly things that require much effort to figure out and try out. The fact that he could do so makes perfect sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Avoiding it. I'll ask again. Why didn't Altair do ledge kills in AC1? Also why does he climb just like Ezio?

No, of course they aren't it's pathetically easy these techniques. But I'm not asking you about that. I'm asking you why so much is different now, as well as the above questions. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Because so much needed to become better.

CRUDFACE
09-24-2011, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:

It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors.

Did I do that quote right? Oh well.

Anyways, I know, but it's not the same style and Altair didn't jump and glide, he simply fell on the target. In AC1, you had to be in a hanging position. And can you explain the ledge assassinations please. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
These aren't exactly things that require much effort to figure out and try out. The fact that he could do so makes perfect sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Avoiding it. I'll ask again. Why didn't Altair do ledge kills in AC1? Also why does he climb just like Ezio?

No, of course they aren't it's pathetically easy these techniques. But I'm not asking you about that. I'm asking you why so much is different now, as well as the above questions. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Because so much needed to become better. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

EXACTLY! Remember a while back, I said it was for gameplay, but everyone kept saying it was because of story. It was simply gameplay, that's it. It's the only reason for it.

And tbh, Altair did say in the codex on page 13, that he has worked with Malik to describe "New Methods of assassination." So yes, they were made after AC1

So yes, while I do like the gameplay improvements, some story elements, particularly those written down are sacrificed for it.

masterfenix2009
09-24-2011, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:

It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors.

Did I do that quote right? Oh well.

Anyways, I know, but it's not the same style and Altair didn't jump and glide, he simply fell on the target. In AC1, you had to be in a hanging position. And can you explain the ledge assassinations please. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
These aren't exactly things that require much effort to figure out and try out. The fact that he could do so makes perfect sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Avoiding it. I'll ask again. Why didn't Altair do ledge kills in AC1? Also why does he climb just like Ezio?

No, of course they aren't it's pathetically easy these techniques. But I'm not asking you about that. I'm asking you why so much is different now, as well as the above questions. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Umm....well, you don't have to be a genius to pull a guy off a roof. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Animuses
09-24-2011, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
In AC1, you had to be in a hanging position.
All you had to do was be somewhat close to the ground, lock on your target and jump. What is this hanging position you speak of?

Krayus Korianis
09-24-2011, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LightRey:

It actually is. It's somewhat more tricky, but you can definitely do aerial assassinations in AC1. Not to mention the fact that the AC1 gameplay was just more primitive than that of its successors.

Did I do that quote right? Oh well.

Anyways, I know, but it's not the same style and Altair didn't jump and glide, he simply fell on the target. In AC1, you had to be in a hanging position. And can you explain the ledge assassinations please. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
These aren't exactly things that require much effort to figure out and try out. The fact that he could do so makes perfect sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Avoiding it. I'll ask again. Why didn't Altair do ledge kills in AC1? Also why does he climb just like Ezio?

No, of course they aren't it's pathetically easy these techniques. But I'm not asking you about that. I'm asking you why so much is different now, as well as the above questions. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Reason: Animus versions. All we need to know.
The first animus went after Alta´r's memories and only did a few moves. Ezio's memories offered more as Desmond learned the moves first hand.

Kay?

RzaRecta357
09-24-2011, 08:15 PM
No, not ok.

It's just like we've been saying. First off, you don't need to be a genius to jump off a roof and stab a guy. He could do this in AC1 without "hanging' you could just be standing there if the roof was close enough to buddy.

Just because he says new techniques doesn't mean that one particular one is...new to Ezio....New to the person that wrote it.

I bet if ubisoft had known this discussion would be had they would of changed the codex wording.

Because honestly, the people that are truly arguing this are idiotic. It's the dumbest idiotic thing i've actually read in a long time.

I mean, Patrice was happy they worked a way into it to do aerials by teaching the player and making it easier. I remember the interview.

So again, I'll say it's a totally idiot thing to argue. Totally and completely stupid and utterly idiotic.

That's like asking Snake why he never thought to bend down and always crawled. That's like asking Commander Shepard why he got so much better at gunplay from ME1 to 2. That's like asking Max Payne why now he decides to take cover now in the upcoming game. That's like asking how come in Skyrim I can cast spells with both hands or one hand and wield a sword with another.

Do you get what I mean? Cmon now. Honestly.

The only thing that WOULD be dumb. Is if Altair does the new hook climb when you hold X like the multiplayer does.

Blind2Society
09-24-2011, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Krayus_Korianis:
Reason: Animus versions
No, in fact the reason is much more simple than that. Because the devs didn't think of it at the time. Only after millions of people played the game and said "why can't I pull that guy off the roof" and things like that did they realise. So they found a clever way of adding those methods of killing to the game. That simple.

LightRey
09-25-2011, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
No, not ok.

It's just like we've been saying. First off, you don't need to be a genius to jump off a roof and stab a guy. He could do this in AC1 without "hanging' you could just be standing there if the roof was close enough to buddy.

Just because he says new techniques doesn't mean that one particular one is...new to Ezio....New to the person that wrote it.

I bet if ubisoft had known this discussion would be had they would of changed the codex wording.

Because honestly, the people that are truly arguing this are idiotic. It's the dumbest idiotic thing i've actually read in a long time.

I mean, Patrice was happy they worked a way into it to do aerials by teaching the player and making it easier. I remember the interview.

So again, I'll say it's a totally idiot thing to argue. Totally and completely stupid and utterly idiotic.

That's like asking Snake why he never thought to bend down and always crawled. That's like asking Commander Shepard why he got so much better at gunplay from ME1 to 2. That's like asking Max Payne why now he decides to take cover now in the upcoming game. That's like asking how come in Skyrim I can cast spells with both hands or one hand and wield a sword with another.

Do you get what I mean? Cmon now. Honestly.

The only thing that WOULD be dumb. Is if Altair does the new hook climb when you hold X like the multiplayer does.
Exactly.

sidspyker24
09-25-2011, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
No, not ok.

It's just like we've been saying. First off, you don't need to be a genius to jump off a roof and stab a guy. He could do this in AC1 without "hanging' you could just be standing there if the roof was close enough to buddy.

Just because he says new techniques doesn't mean that one particular one is...new to Ezio....New to the person that wrote it.

I bet if ubisoft had known this discussion would be had they would of changed the codex wording.

Because honestly, the people that are truly arguing this are idiotic. It's the dumbest idiotic thing i've actually read in a long time.

I mean, Patrice was happy they worked a way into it to do aerials by teaching the player and making it easier. I remember the interview.

So again, I'll say it's a totally idiot thing to argue. Totally and completely stupid and utterly idiotic.

That's like asking Snake why he never thought to bend down and always crawled. That's like asking Commander Shepard why he got so much better at gunplay from ME1 to 2. That's like asking Max Payne why now he decides to take cover now in the upcoming game. That's like asking how come in Skyrim I can cast spells with both hands or one hand and wield a sword with another.

Do you get what I mean? Cmon now. Honestly.

The only thing that WOULD be dumb. Is if Altair does the new hook climb when you hold X like the multiplayer does.
You nailed it...

eagleforlife1
09-25-2011, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by sidspyker24:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
No, not ok.

It's just like we've been saying. First off, you don't need to be a genius to jump off a roof and stab a guy. He could do this in AC1 without "hanging' you could just be standing there if the roof was close enough to buddy.

Just because he says new techniques doesn't mean that one particular one is...new to Ezio....New to the person that wrote it.

I bet if ubisoft had known this discussion would be had they would of changed the codex wording.

Because honestly, the people that are truly arguing this are idiotic. It's the dumbest idiotic thing i've actually read in a long time.

I mean, Patrice was happy they worked a way into it to do aerials by teaching the player and making it easier. I remember the interview.

So again, I'll say it's a totally idiot thing to argue. Totally and completely stupid and utterly idiotic.

That's like asking Snake why he never thought to bend down and always crawled. That's like asking Commander Shepard why he got so much better at gunplay from ME1 to 2. That's like asking Max Payne why now he decides to take cover now in the upcoming game. That's like asking how come in Skyrim I can cast spells with both hands or one hand and wield a sword with another.

Do you get what I mean? Cmon now. Honestly.

The only thing that WOULD be dumb. Is if Altair does the new hook climb when you hold X like the multiplayer does.
You nailed it... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apart from the bits where he insults people's intelligence for happening to have a different opinion.

rileypoole1234
09-25-2011, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
No, not ok.

It's just like we've been saying. First off, you don't need to be a genius to jump off a roof and stab a guy. He could do this in AC1 without "hanging' you could just be standing there if the roof was close enough to buddy.

Just because he says new techniques doesn't mean that one particular one is...new to Ezio....New to the person that wrote it.

I bet if ubisoft had known this discussion would be had they would of changed the codex wording.

Because honestly, the people that are truly arguing this are idiotic. It's the dumbest idiotic thing i've actually read in a long time.

I mean, Patrice was happy they worked a way into it to do aerials by teaching the player and making it easier. I remember the interview.

So again, I'll say it's a totally idiot thing to argue. Totally and completely stupid and utterly idiotic.

That's like asking Snake why he never thought to bend down and always crawled. That's like asking Commander Shepard why he got so much better at gunplay from ME1 to 2. That's like asking Max Payne why now he decides to take cover now in the upcoming game. That's like asking how come in Skyrim I can cast spells with both hands or one hand and wield a sword with another.

Do you get what I mean? Cmon now. Honestly.

The only thing that WOULD be dumb. Is if Altair does the new hook climb when you hold X like the multiplayer does.

Yes, just take it at face value. There's nothing more to it than AC1 was the first game, so it didn't have as much features as the second, which is true for any game. Now that it's the fourth Assassin's Creed game that they've made(not number 4), they're able to do more things and add more gameplay features. That's really all it is.

RzaRecta357
09-25-2011, 06:47 PM
Haha yeah I was harsh but this discussion has been happening since E3 and it's wetarted!

luckyto
09-26-2011, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
No, not ok.

It's just like we've been saying. First off, you don't need to be a genius to jump off a roof and stab a guy. He could do this in AC1 without "hanging' you could just be standing there if the roof was close enough to buddy.

Just because he says new techniques doesn't mean that one particular one is...new to Ezio....New to the person that wrote it.

I bet if ubisoft had known this discussion would be had they would of changed the codex wording.

Because honestly, the people that are truly arguing this are idiotic. It's the dumbest idiotic thing i've actually read in a long time.

I mean, Patrice was happy they worked a way into it to do aerials by teaching the player and making it easier. I remember the interview.

So again, I'll say it's a totally idiot thing to argue. Totally and completely stupid and utterly idiotic.

That's like asking Snake why he never thought to bend down and always crawled. That's like asking Commander Shepard why he got so much better at gunplay from ME1 to 2. That's like asking Max Payne why now he decides to take cover now in the upcoming game. That's like asking how come in Skyrim I can cast spells with both hands or one hand and wield a sword with another.

Do you get what I mean? Cmon now. Honestly.

The only thing that WOULD be dumb. Is if Altair does the new hook climb when you hold X like the multiplayer does.


HA HA! For real! I wish it was in AC1, but it wasn't. Yes, it was in the codex. But really, big deal. This is such a core mechanic that it in this case - this exception to the rule - canon needed to be changed.

So can someone please explain to me how the hell you do air assassinations in AC1?

sidspyker24
09-26-2011, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by luckyto:
HA HA! For real! I wish it was in AC1, but it wasn't. Yes, it was in the codex. But really, big deal. This is such a core mechanic that it in this case - this exception to the rule - canon needed to be changed.

So can someone please explain to me how the hell you do air assassinations in AC1?

Sure, works best on Save Citizens because of open space, first, hang on something above a guard(tricky place to find), you need to be quite low, then do a high profile kill..

luckyto
09-26-2011, 08:48 AM
So you can't be just standing there above them? But if I'm hanging, then I can do it. Ok, got it. Thanks.

LightRey
09-26-2011, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by luckyto:
So you can't be just standing there above them? But if I'm hanging, then I can do it. Ok, got it. Thanks.
Well, you can, but I'm pretty sure you need to do so while running and it only works from about one story above the target.

Randy 355
09-26-2011, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by luckyto:
So you can't be just standing there above them? But if I'm hanging, then I can do it. Ok, got it. Thanks.
Well, you can, but I'm pretty sure you need to do so while running and it only works from about one story above the target. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Who's the guy you assassinate for the book burning? The one where you have multiple targets, but only one is the real target? The real target is perfect for an air assassination.

Edit: Jubair Al Hakim. Easy for testing it out.

RzaRecta357
09-26-2011, 11:09 AM
Well, you need to be an AC master like most of us to be able to do this.

Most of us know that just holding the high profile button while standing near and edge that has a safe distance fall will make him just walk off lightly and do a roll or just land.


So, when you're near a save citizen or something and there is a low enough edge. Say one of those short roofs or those stacks of wood you can always toss a guard into. You stand on that. You lock on and let Altair say something arabic and badass. Then you do the walk off whilst holding or pressing the attack button.


Been doing this for years.

LightRey
09-26-2011, 11:52 AM
Well there you have it folks. Examples and walkthroughs. What more do you want?

Animuses
09-26-2011, 01:50 PM
I want Desmond's previous face with the updated graphics... Can you give me that?

DarthEzio55
09-26-2011, 01:53 PM
Awesome New Trailer (http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/09/26/assassins-creed-revelations-the-search-for-truth) released

CRUDFACE
09-28-2011, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RzaRecta357:
No, not ok.

It's just like we've been saying. First off, you don't need to be a genius to jump off a roof and stab a guy. He could do this in AC1 without "hanging' you could just be standing there if the roof was close enough to buddy.

Just because he says new techniques doesn't mean that one particular one is...new to Ezio....New to the person that wrote it.

I bet if ubisoft had known this discussion would be had they would of changed the codex wording.

Because honestly, the people that are truly arguing this are idiotic. It's the dumbest idiotic thing i've actually read in a long time.

I mean, Patrice was happy they worked a way into it to do aerials by teaching the player and making it easier. I remember the interview.

So again, I'll say it's a totally idiot thing to argue. Totally and completely stupid and utterly idiotic.

That's like asking Snake why he never thought to bend down and always crawled. That's like asking Commander Shepard why he got so much better at gunplay from ME1 to 2. That's like asking Max Payne why now he decides to take cover now in the upcoming game. That's like asking how come in Skyrim I can cast spells with both hands or one hand and wield a sword with another.

Do you get what I mean? Cmon now. Honestly.

The only thing that WOULD be dumb. Is if Altair does the new hook climb when you hold X like the multiplayer does.
Exactly. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry, I don't mean to revive this topic again, but I just wanted to reply since I didn't way back then.

First you didn't have to explain too me how stupid the moves are. It's the whole reason I said they were pathetically easy to think of, nothing really special.

I've seen the psp port so I know that Altair can do these moves later on. I was just saying how they needed to be in the memory a little later on, like the second one instead of the first. I can understand the upgrade, I'm just saying to work it into the plot is all.

See, I didn't have to call yous stupid to get my point across. I didn't have to say everything you said was stupid. Don't have to be so harsh.

And yeah, the whole thing I was getting across was that it made gameplay easier because the devs didn't think of it at the time just as Blind2Society says. That's all.

It's cool if nobody posts to lists, just wanted to clear up something that I started.

TorQue1988
09-28-2011, 02:16 PM
Did anyone else notice that in the Combat Trailer at about 1:14 the moon looks different?...i wonder if we will have moon phases this time around or it's a moon eclipse.

twenty_glyphs
09-28-2011, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by TorQue1988:
Did anyone else notice that in the Combat Trailer at about 1:14 the moon looks different?...i wonder if we will have moon phases this time around or it's a moon eclipse.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Moon phases would be a nice little touch. It could just always be in a different phase than full to give us some variety from other times. In the Gamescom trailer, the moon is full in the village near Masyaf.

CRUDFACE
09-28-2011, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TorQue1988:
Did anyone else notice that in the Combat Trailer at about 1:14 the moon looks different?...i wonder if we will have moon phases this time around or it's a moon eclipse.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Moon phases would be a nice little touch. It could just always be in a different phase than full to give us some variety from other times. In the Gamescom trailer, the moon is full in the village near Masyaf. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They did make mention of environmental effects like rain and such. Phases like that might not be outside the realm of the possible for the series.

kriegerdesgottes
09-28-2011, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by t260z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TorQue1988:
Did anyone else notice that in the Combat Trailer at about 1:14 the moon looks different?...i wonder if we will have moon phases this time around or it's a moon eclipse.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Moon phases would be a nice little touch. It could just always be in a different phase than full to give us some variety from other times. In the Gamescom trailer, the moon is full in the village near Masyaf. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They did make mention of environmental effects like rain and such. Phases like that might not be outside the realm of the possible for the series. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We know it will snow in Masyaf but I have a feeling the weather thing that we all want won't be in this one. By that I mean I don't think it will randomly rain in Constantinople like it would in RDR. I do think that it will probably end up in ACIII though.

twenty_glyphs
09-28-2011, 05:13 PM
I don't expect to see random weather patterns just yet. I don't know how their engine works for the sky, but it doesn't seem like it would affect performance much if at all to simply swap out the image of the moon every time it rises again so it cycles through its phases.

CRUDFACE
09-29-2011, 01:42 AM
@kriegerdesgotte: you really think they'll have real time change in weather effects by AC3? Aren't they still coming out with these once a year?


Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:
I don't expect to see random weather patterns just yet. I don't know how their engine works for the sky, but it doesn't seem like it would affect performance much if at all to simply swap out the image of the moon every time it rises again so it cycles through its phases.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I thought maybe it would switch up according to the mission you're on. Like in the Romulus Lairs where it started to rain, which was totally different from the norm of the weather in Rome.

Just adds a little variety to the backdrop.

kriegerdesgottes
09-29-2011, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by t260z:
@kriegerdesgotte: you really think they'll have real time change in weather effects by AC3? Aren't they still coming out with these once a year?

Yeah I do actually, I could be wrong of course but this is a game they have been working on for a long time or I sincerely hope they have/are anyway. They know the expectations for ACIII are extremely high and that it pretty much has to somehow blow ACII out of the water which will be no easy feat. I am almost positive that they are working on ACIII right now at this very moment.

RzaRecta357
09-29-2011, 10:58 AM
I'm sure they've been working on 3 since 2 came out. They have to upgrade the engine the way they took 2 or 3 years to upgrade from 1 to 2.


Taking the GTA route perhaps. GTA3 and it's expansions were amazing. But GTAIV had the most insane and technological game and physics engine in games to this day besides Red Dead Redemption.

Major major upgrade