Why is the MTAR21 so popular?

[Gascogne]

I am bit curious why the MTAR21 is so popular amongst most people?

Is it because it has the most damage amongst the assault rifles?
If so why aren't there more people using the 552 Commando since it got 8 damage as well plus 1 higher range than the MTAR21?

[GrimlockCW]

who knows.
i use the MP5 mostly since no one wears armor, and contrary to belief, it does help.
not much admitedly, but it does. Now only if head armor existed, which is why people probably think the armor doesn't help, they keep getting their heads blown off so easily that the body armor won't save them any (admit it, you don't aim for a guys body now do ya?)

so the MP5 makes just as easy for kills as any other gun in close quarter (and i'm able to even pickoff snipers from afar rath easily myself :P )
in the 360 game most people end up with the FAMAS or 552 i had noticed when i was playing it.
i personaly just vary dependant on what i like since the specs in this game are pretty null really.

what i question is why do people use the suppressors in reg MP when its pointless unless at greater ranges.
Humans can hear that thudding noise, where the AI may not (and actually doesn't)
with my 5.1 i can locate a suppressed gunner from across the map easy.

[Want2Snipe]

I like the UMP45 myself, nice kick and it doesn't recoil as much as the other assault rifles. I use the G3K4 for my heavy weapon and sometimes, even as a sniper rifle.

The suppressor does nothing to the gameplay except on a few maps (maybe), of course I am talking on SP mode. I have tried it multiple times and the tangos do hear it and start chatting but don't change their scripted positions one way or another so I don't use it anymore like I used to before.

[CAP_wildBill]

MTAR is so popular due to its accuracy and rate of fire, as well as stopping power, i love teh G3KA4 as well, or teh uMP45 for close range indoor maps

[Gascogne]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CAP_wildBill:
MTAR is so popular due to its accuracy and rate of fire, as well as stopping power/QUOTE]

Yes that is what I find little weird if you look at the MTAR21 and the 552 Commando.

552 Commando
Damage 8
Range 7
Accuracy 4

MTAR21
Damage 8
Range 6
Accuracy 4

The 552 Commando is superior (by little anyway) due to it has 1 higher range than the MTAR21 and yet people choose the MTAR21?

Im not 100% sure what range does in this game anyway so if anyone knows, feel free to enlighten me. I mean there is an assault rifle with the range of 2 and up to 8.

[bigrexxx]

two major factors when choosing a gun for MP is rate of fire and reload times, just like the Famas was really popular in RVS because it took half the time to reload it. The P90 would have to be the worst IMO, due to the location of the mag. next time you load the game just check them out, just to see.

[ArcticCoolerMan]

I for one think the assault rifles are pretty much balanced and not according to real stats because you'd think the AUG A3 being a bullpup configuration would have a lot more range than in the game. This game was designed for the console and therefore...guns don't have the real stats they should have.

[Gascogne]

Originally posted by ArcticCoolerMan:
This game was designed for the console and therefore...guns don't have the real stats they should have.
Im just trying to figure out what the stats really mean and why most people are using the MTAR21. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[enigma8706]

The Accuracy bar tells you how closer the bullet will land to the center of the cross hair at a longer distance.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CAP_wildBill:
MTAR is so popular due to its accuracy and rate of fire, as well as stopping power/QUOTE]

I think what he was saying was that it has less kick than the commando, thus spraying more bullets in a tighter circle.

[Gascogne]

Originally posted by enigma8706:
The Accuracy bar tells you how closer the bullet will land to the center of the cross hair at a longer distance.

I think what he was saying was that it has less kick than the commando, thus spraying more bullets in a tighter circle.

Both of the weapons have 4 accuracy, so that would mean that they have an equal kick?

[Want2Snipe]

Since the game is not optimized for anything, I don't believe looking at the chart will do anything for you... is best if you try them all and use the one you're more confident with.

[KI.Canyon]

I went back and forth between the M8 and the MP9.

M8 for single-shot cross-map firefights
MP9 for when I was in a Rambo Run & Gun mood.

[T-DiNozzo]

I like the AK-47, the M8, and as a submachine gun the MP7A1.

The AK-47 rocks! I don't know why, it just works well for me. But really, I've tried the MTAR and the GK3A4 and they're pretty lackluster. For some reason, even the SG552 who's stats are better than the other guns performs pretty bad. Maybe I'm a sound person, where I do better if the gun sounds like a Howitzer.

[spiderHIGH]

the mp9 is unmatched in this game. Seriously.

Amazing for close range, medium and if youre good you can deal damage at a distance. Switch to single shot mode and you can snipe with it.

[SteveLord8]

AK47 and MP5 for me. I too believe that the stats don't mean squat. Infact, I constantly pick random ones because none seem any worse or any better than the others.

Its all about whatever weapon you feel most comfortable with.

[Gascogne]

I think that stats means something, just the problem figuring out what they exactly mean, it's not like Ubisoft are going to tell us. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I personally can't use any assault rifle in the game, they kick far too much for my taste. So I am pretty much stuck with the smg's.

About 90% of the time when I play online those who end up with most kills on either side is using the MTAR21, the other 10% are for the FAMAS.

[T-DiNozzo]

lol True Steve, that's exactly right. They're there just for the pretty colors.

[Want2Snipe]

I like the G3K4 but I love the AK-47, it is just that in Single Action, the G3K4 feels like it does more than the AK4-47 for me (as far as droping the tangos faster w/o the need to hit them in the head for them to die!). I don't use any of those 2 weapons on Full-auto, otherwise, I get wasted to quick because of the recoil and me getting trigger happy with it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif(with the UMP45 or MP5, I can get as trigger happy as I want!) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

[DRAKO_MDx]

<span class="ev_code_RED">Weapons In Game Stats and Ranking for Rifles and Submachine Gun:</span>

I color Coded each Section as Follows:
<span class="ev_code_yellow">Yellow</span> = 1st
<span class="ev_code_blue">Blue</span> = 2nd
<span class="ev_code_pink">Pink</span> = 3rd

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q64/macroxx/R6V_Weapons_Stats.png

Based on Game Stats alone here are the rankings:

<span class="ev_code_yellow">1st Place</span>
Submachine Gun: <span class="ev_code_red">UMP45</span>
Assault Rifles: <span class="ev_code_red">G3KA4</span> and <span class="ev_code_red">SCAR-H CQC</span>

<span class="ev_code_blue">2nd Place</span>
Submachine Gun: <span class="ev_code_red">MP7A1</span>(The Only Armor Piercing Submachine Gun) and <span class="ev_code_red">MP9</span>
Assault Rifle: <span class="ev_code_red">552 Commando</span>

<span class="ev_code_pink">3rd Place</span>
Submachine Guns: <span class="ev_code_red">MP5N</span> and <span class="ev_code_red">P90</span>
Assault Rifles: <span class="ev_code_red">G36C</span> and <span class="ev_code_red">MTAR21</span>

4th Place
Submachine Gun: <span class="ev_code_red">MAC11</span>
Assault Rifles: <span class="ev_code_red">FAMAS</span> and <span class="ev_code_red">M8</span>(5 more round in Magazine)

5th Place
Assault Rifle: <span class="ev_code_red">AugA3</span>

6th Place
Assault Rifle: <span class="ev_code_red">AK47</span>


<span class="ev_code_yellow">Here's what I like to use:</span>
<span class="ev_code_red">SCAR-H CQC</span> Assault Rifle(My Favorite)
<span class="ev_code_red">MP7A1</span> Submachine gun(Armor Piercing)
<span class="ev_code_red">UMP45</span> Submachine gun
<span class="ev_code_red">XM-26 LSS</span> Auto Shotgun(So called NOOB Canon)
<span class="ev_code_red">PSG-1</span> Sniper Rifle(Semi Automatic)

[tombob18]

One thing that the ratings do not figure in that is very important is rate of fire. Of the assault rifles, the FAMAS has the fastest rate of fire. At close range this allows you to unload many more shots than your adversary giving you a higher chance to kill. At long range you can squeeze off a few rounds at a time with a single pull of the trigger rather than relying on a single round from most other rifles to get that head shot. Not sure how well this works? Send me an invite and I'll show you.

[Hana666]

I like Tar because it fires fast, has punch even with a silencer and the recoil isn't so bad. Aug is also fun on medium range maps, it's a bit wimpy but nice and controllable like the UMP. AK is excellent in single-shot mode. These are the three assault rifles I use most, although generally I'm an SMG person.

As for the other rifles, Famas has great rate of fire but who can control the thing... not me. I always run out of ammo before I can hit anything, it spits all over the place. 552 can't seem to hit much either, at least not when I use it, even in single shot it's still pretty wayward. G3 seems to be a bit meh on the accuracy, and I don't like any of the other guns aesthetically (this is important - stats schmats, I want to look cool).

I don't really pay much attention to the game's stats because they don't factor things like rate of fire and recoil into the equation. Raven Shield had a far more useful list of stats, Vegas's info is pretty babyish in comparison. In fact Vegas is babyish in comparison in almost all aspects.

[BloodDoll]

Ak-47! Though it seems that some nights some guns just feel better for me than others. It really just depends how well I am playing, like someone else said, the stats mean little to me. I can really do well with any gun, it just depends what feels right. I love the Ak-47 though, it always feels good for some reason, but sometimes I like to switch guns just for fun. I can't imagine not wearing armor though for looks at least. Some stuff looks decent.

[ptitgars]

My preference :

SMG : MP9 or UMP45
ASSAULT RIFLES : Famas ( i'm french ;p )
Shotgun : Mcs870 or the ALMITHY SPAS ( Hail for the almithy spas XD )
Sniper Rifle : SV-98

I usually use FAMAS with a Laser, and i often take a glock or Raging bull...

MTAR is fun, but I love to use weapons i love even if they're not the best.

[GSG_9_Rage]

Uhhhhh...The MTAR21 is a sub machine gun. The full size assault rifle version is the TAR-21 (Tavor 21). I think the developers messed up again.

[Hana666]

The devs chucked it in 'assault rifles' but it looks like a fullsize TAR to me anyway (seeing as it's about the same size as all the other rifles and performs about the same) so I think they just named it wrong. The MTAR21 in Vegas certainly doesn't look anytwhere near as short as the MTAR21 in Raven Shield (which featured both the TAR and MTAR). Why Ubi Montreal didn't give us both types to play with again I don't know. Since when does a sequel have LESS guns than the previous game, sheesh... Vegas 2 had better have all the guns from Vegas plus all the guns from Raven Shield, plus a few more. Knowing Ubi's current odd penchant for arcade-over-realism they'll probably give us a portal gun or an Unreal-style translocator...

[X-Fusion.uk]

I'd personally like to know how this topic comes up as the first result, when searching for the MTAR21 on Google.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6018/52013425rx6.th.png (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=52013425rx6.png)

Anyway, I guess it's all a matter of personal preference, to be honest. In terrorist hunt, terrorists carry the weapon, thus it's easy to refill your ammo. I personally prefer the M8/SCAR-H. When I'm not using those, I'm usually running around with a Scout or an SV.